The Guardian posted a fascinating and depressing article about the “education” of boys in Afghanistan.
It is a reminder that religious education is likely to be indoctrination.
It is a reminder of the importance of separation of church and state.
It is a reminder of why public funds should not pay for religious education.
It is a reminder of the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, who guaranteed freedom of religion and prohibited the establishment of any state religion.
In the world of the Taliban, critical thinking and questioning are not permitted.
In the world of religious zealots, indoctrination is the goal of education.
In the U.S., critical thinking and questioning are necessary for our democracy to thrive.
Which path we will choose?
The Guardian reports:
Before he leaves for Kabul University each morning, Hashmat* checks his face for the beard he has been ordered to grow. Male students are required to grow their facial hair and wear traditional Afghan clothes and those who fall short are punished. Hashmat says he recently saw a classmate beaten for wearing trousers.
“They look at you before they listen to you. If your appearance is wrong, you are already in trouble before the class begins,” he says.
Five years after the ultra-conservative Islamists of the Taliban retook Afghanistan, students have described to the Guardian a collapsing education system, with women banned, lecturers leaving and teaching increasingly focused on religious subjects and discipline.
University has lost its purpose. It feels more like a … place where curiosity is banned and remaining silent ordered
Qader
Students are required to attend religious lectures and pray in public every day, sometimes for two hours at a time, says Hashmat. The lectures are about Islam, conduct and obedience. They are not optional. In some cases, he says, they are held during time that would otherwise be used for regular academic courses.
“I am missing my actual classes to sit in a lecture about obeying. That is what they [the Taliban] think education is for. Everyone talks about the girls who were banned, but nobody talks about what is happening to the boys who were allowed to stay.”
Another student studying in central Afghanistan said the problem is not only weak teaching, but also the disappearance of debate and questioning from the classroom. “We are expected to listen, not to question,” says Qader*. “Since the fall of Kabul, the university has lost its purpose. It feels more like a madrassa now — a place where curiosity is banned and remaining silent ordered.”
Hashmat studies journalism, a subject shaped by digital tools, online platforms, verification, ethics and technology, but as he listens in class, he says he wonders whether the person teaching the course understands the subject well enough to teach it.
“He is teaching us about the modern world while struggling to use PowerPoint in the class. How can you teach journalism technology if you do not understand what technology is?”
Hashmat’s account matches those of more than 20 students interviewed by phone at public and private universities in seven provinces across Afghanistan – Kabul, Kandahar, Helmand, Nangarhar, Bamiyan, Balkh and Wardak.
Teachers come to class and read from old notes they cannot explain … it feels like we are back in high school
Zalmay
Afghanistan’s higher-education sector contracted sharply between 2019 and 2024, according to Unesco, with female enrolment down to zero by 2024 and male enrolment falling from 310,369 in 2019 to 188,957 in 2024.
Kabul University still looks like a university from the outside. The buildings are open, male students still attend, exams are held and degrees are issued. But students say much of what makes it a university has been hollowed out.
Experienced professors have left the country, stopped teaching or been pushed aside. And ideologically aligned Taliban lecturers have been hired in their place. In some departments, recent graduates and even undergraduates are teaching.
*Names have been changed.

I subscribe to the notion that “When an opponent is in the process of destroying themselves, do not interrupt.”
I am also a strong believer in self-determination. If the students so treated, and I feel their pain, are not sufficient for their parents to overthrow their current rulers then things haven’t reached bottom yet and the suffering will continue.
LikeLike
You raise interesting questions. It caused me to think of the problem of utopian societies and why they do not endure.
The Taliban is attempting to establish what they would term a perfect society. So this might work for a few leaders, but not so much for those who disagree. Orwell talked about being unable to distinguish the pigs from the men in Animal Farm.
LikeLike
The problem is that theocracy hides corruption. Soon, perhaps already, the people suggesting theology are also making policy. Soon a class of people benefits, cynicism usurps idealism, and corruption rises unchecked. The theocratic kings of medieval England were so far down this road, that Geoffrey Chaucer, a friend of the strongman John of Gaunt, savagely satirized the corruption in the church of his day even as he supported the theocratic throne.
Same story. Different characters.
LikeLike
“The problem is that theocracy hides corruption”
Theocracy, no matter the particular type IS corruption. . . of the human mind and spirit.
LikeLike
Vouchers are often smokescreen for Christian nationalist schools whose main goal is to indoctrinate. They are using public funds to peddle falsehoods and propaganda.
LikeLike
Coming soon to public universities in Texas…
LikeLiked by 1 person
Christine:
I feel compelled to write a reply–I “liked” the cleverness of your comment.
That being said, I abhor the probability of said comment. (& not limited to “public universities in Texas…” but to those in too many other states.
LikeLike
When you hold up a mirror to these people, they do not even see their own likeness. (Same applies to vampires, right?)
I’m not really being flippant; the adherents of Project 2025 are now going on about women should not be allowed to vote and the SAVE act furthers that goal because many women do not have names that match their birth certificates. We are already dying because we cannot access reproductive care. Denying us education is not so far fetched, I think. So where and how are we allowed to have agency and a voice?
Recently, the Taliban decreed that women cannot allow themselves to be seen through the windows and doors of their own homes. Not so far off the “trad wives” vibe, is it?
LikeLike
Why are these men so fearful of women?
LikeLike
Because they don’t know any!
LikeLike
The Taliban: raving, slathering, hyper anti-female fanatics who give a bad name to raving, slathering, hyper anti-female fanatics. What the hell is their problem with women?! Women are forced to walk around in mini-tents when they are even allowed to go out. Women were treated better in the stone ages. The vile Taliban are committing what amounts to a form of social genocide against women who are not even allowed to have a higher education.
A female cat has more rights than a woman in Afghanistan, Hollywood star Meryl Streep said in September, speaking at an event on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
LikeLike
“It is a reminder that religious education is likely to be indoctrination.“
No, it’s not likely. . . It IS indoctrination no different than any other religious indoctrination.
LikeLike