Dahlia Lithwick and Norman Ornstein are lawyers and close observers of national politics. In this article, they urge us to take Trump’s threats seriously. They are not just campaign rhetoric or empty promises. He means what he says. As Maya Angelou once said, “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
Most of the mainstream media (MSNBC is an exception) attempts to normalize Trump, as though he’s just another in a long line of conservative politicians. He is not. He is an autocrat who longs to have total control and to use that control to get vengeance for his enemies (no “loyal opposition” for him).
The first term was a warning. Trump tried in some cases to pick good people, but they didn’t last long. He won’t make the same mistake. He will demand loyalty, total loyalty. Anyone he appoints will have to agree that the election of 2020 was rigged and stolen.
He says he will take bold steps to reverse the progressive gains of the past 90 years, which he will attribute to “communists, socialists, fascists vermin, and scum”
Lithwick and Ornstein write at Slate about The dangers posed by Trump:
Most would-be dictators run for office downplaying or sugarcoating their intentions, trying to lure voters with a vanilla appeal. But once elected, the autocratic elements take over, either immediately or gradually: The destruction of free elections, undermining the press, co-opting the judiciary, turning the military into instruments of the dictatorship, installing puppets in the bureaucracy, making sure the legislature reinforces rather than challenges lawless or unconstitutional actions, using violence and threats of violence to cow critics and adversaries, rewarding allies with government contracts, and ensuring that the dictator and family can secrete billions from government resources and bribes. This was the game plan for Putin, Sisi, Orbán, and many others. It’s hardly unfamiliar.
Donald Trump is rather different in one respect. He has not softened his spoken intentions to get elected. While Trump is a congenital liar—witness his recent claim that he, not Joe Biden, got $35 insulin for diabetics—when it comes to how he would act if elected again to the presidency, he has been brutally honest, as have his closest advisers and campaign allies. His presidency would feature retribution against his enemies, weaponizing and politicizing the Justice Department to arrest and detain them whether there were valid charges or not. He has pledged to pardon the Jan. 6 violent insurrectionist rioters, who could constitute a personal vigilante army for President Donald Trump, presumably alongside the official one.
He has openly said he would be a dictator on Day One, reimplementing a Muslim ban, purging the bureaucracy of professional civil servants and replacing them with loyalists, invoking the Insurrection Act to quash protests and take on opponents while replacing military leaders who would resist turning the military into a presidential militia with pliant generals. He would begin immediately to put the 12 million undocumented people in America into detention camps before moving to deport them all. His Republican convention policy director, Russell Vought, has laid out many of these plans as have his closest advisers, Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, and Michael Flynn, among others. Free elections would be a thing of the past, with more radical partisan judges turning a blind eye to attempts to protect elections and voting rights. He has openly flirted with the idea that he would ignore the 22nd Amendment and stay beyond his term of office.
The battle plan of his allies in the Heritage Foundation, working closely with his campaign via Project 2025, includes many of the aims above, and more; it would also tighten the screws on abortion after Dobbs, move against contraception, reinstate criminal sanctions against gay sex while overturning the right to same-sex marriage, among other things. His top foreign policy adviser, Richard Grenell, has reiterated what Trump has said about his isolationist-in-the-extreme foreign policy—jettison NATO, abandon support for Ukraine and give Putin a green light to go after Poland and other NATO countries, and reorient American alliances to create one of strongmen dictators including Kim Jong-un. Shockingly, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson violated sacred norms and endangered security by bypassing qualified lawmakers and appointing to the House Intelligence Committee two dangerous and manifestly unqualified members—one insurrectionist sympathizer, Rep. Scott Perry, who has sued the FBI, and one extremist demoted by the military for drunkenness, pill pushing, and other offenses, Rep. Ronny Jackson—simply because Donald Trump demanded it. They will have access to America’s most critical secrets and will likely share them with Trump if his status as a convicted felon denies him access to top secret information during the campaign. This is part of a broader pattern in which GOP lawmakers do what Trump wants, no matter how extreme or reckless….
We are worried about this baseline assumption that everything is fine until someone alerts us that nothing is fine, that of course our system will hold because it always has. We worry that we are exceptionally good at telling ourselves that shocking things won’t happen, and then when they do happen, we don’t know what to do. We worry that every time we say “the system held” it implies that “holding” equals “winning” as opposed to barely scraping by. We worry that while Trump has armies of surrogates out there arguing that Trump is an all-powerful God proxy, the rule of law has no surrogates out there arguing for anything because nobody ever came to a rally for a Rule 11 motion. The Biden administration has largely taken the position that the felony conviction is irrelevant because it’s proof that the status quo isn’t in danger. But the reality is that Republicans are openly campaigning against judges, juries, and prosecutors. Overt declarations of blowing up our checks and balances and following the blueprints to autocracy set by Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orbán, meanwhile, are treated with shrugs by mainstream journalists and commentators. What’s more, Republicans in Congress have shown a willingness to kowtow to every Trump demand. The signals are flashing red that our fundamental system is in danger.
“The system is holding” is not a plan for a knowable future. It never was.
Please open the link and read the article in full.

This is NOT anyone’s baseline assumption about Democracy. Never has been. Fannie Lou Hammer certainly did not need anyone to tell her that everything was not fine with Democracy in the Magnolia State. Nothing was holding together when Goodman, Chaney & Schwerner were murdered 6/21/64. Maybe the Instagram kids are awaiting a heads-up but the rest of us Patriots are in the streets with our ears to the ground. It is everyday hand-to-hand combat in most non-privileged communities.
“We are worried about this baseline assumption that everything is fine until someone alerts us that nothing is fine, that of course our system will hold because it always has.”
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Democrats tend to underestimate the degree of zeal and fanaticism there is on the far right. The Biden team and Democrats need to take Trump and his band of degenerates at their word. Some Trump acolytes are unhinged “children of the corn” that will stop at nothing to ensure a second Trump term. That is why there are so many death threats against anyone involved in Trump’s legal proceedings. It is up to us and our fellow reasonable citizens to stop them. It is easier for us to defend what is left of our democracy than to turn it over to a band of craven lunatics, and then try to rebuild after so much death and destruction from a second term. Who knows? If given a second term, Trump may suspend elections and appoint one of his sons to succeed him as in a true dictatorial regime.
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Perhaps this is what happens. We end up with a truly insane 2nd Trump presidency, and it’s so awful that people wake TF up. I hope it doesn’t come to that. It’s astonishing to me that at this point there are people who still speak and write of Donald J. Trump as though he were a sane person.
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How are you going to “stop us”?
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In 2020, Jacqui, you predicted a landslide victory for the Orange Con Man. How’d that work out for you? Same this year. You’ll see.
And of course, Don the Con will lie about the election. He will say that he won it be 20 gazillion votes and that reptilian aliens controlled voting machines from their invisible spaceships circling the Earth and changed the votes or something equally outlandish. AND YOU TRUMPANZEES WILL BELIEVE IT. Why? Because there is nothing so idiotic that, if it is said by the Bloviating Jabba, you won’t believe it. Inject distinfectant. Take horse tranquilizer. Buy Greenland. Sweep the Forests. Send astronauts to the sun. And how about those stealth airplanes? Actually invisible. Bet you didn’t know that. Trump does. Because he had an uncle at MIT. ROFL.
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Yes, the president can declassify anything he wants at any time. The president IS the executive branch. The bureaucrats aren’t in the Constitution.
The DOJ admits that the transcript of the Biden document case interview was altered. Why would an attorney general allow himself to be indicted to protect an interview that we already have the transcript to? Soon we will know.
You basically admitted that Joe, the liar, Biden is brain addled and you don’t care. It is the DUTY of the people around him to use the 25th amendment to get his hands off the nuclear button.
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Yes, the president can declassify anything he wants at any time. The president IS the executive branch. The bureaucrats aren’t in the Constitution.
The DOJ admits that the transcript of the Biden document case interview was altered. Why would an attorney general allow himself to be indicted to protect an interview that we already have the transcript to? Soon we will know.
You basically admitted that Joe, the liar, Biden is brain addled and you don’t care. It is the DUTY of the people around him to use the 25th amendment to get his hands off the nuclear button.
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A president can simply declassify in his mind. Which means that at any moment, something could be classified or unclassified depending on what’s in the president’s mind.
Yeah. That makes a lot of sense, Jacqui.
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“The president IS the Executive Branch.”
As in Trump’s “I have an Article 2 that says I can do anything I want as president, but I don’t even talk about that”?
And Nixon’s “if the president does it, it’s not illegal”?
ROFL. You actually believe this, Jacqui? We are a nation of laws. The President is the head of the Executive Branch, but he or she cannot simply MAKE LAW (that’s for the Legislative Branch to do), and if he or she intends to change regulations using an Executive Order, there is a process that must be followed by agencies and departments implementing those changes, including a period for commentary on proposed changes to regulations. He or she is not the freaking SUN KING, though Trump and a lot of Trumpanzees seem to think so.
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I repeat, the President IS the Executive branch. I don’t even like the use of executive orders. Like transferring student debt to taxpayers AFTER the SUPREME COURT said that it couldn’t be done. LAWLESSNESS!
Congress isn’t even making laws anymore, they are passing continuing resolutions because they are cowards.
Democrats figured out that the actual instrument of change allowed for in the Constitution, amendment, didn’t work for them. It didn’t work for the democrats because their ideas were REJECTED by the American people and the democrats can’t abide dissent.
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I have news for you, Jacqui. The American people overwhelmingly approve of gay and lesbian marriage. The American people overwhelmingly approve of student loan relief. The American people overwhelmingly want Medicare for All. You live in an ever-decreasing rightwing bubble and have no clue what “the people” want. Perhaps you mean rural people in the sticks in Arkansas. But those aren’t “the people.” They are a throwback. Deliverance.
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The bureaucrats aren’t in the Constitution.
A lot has happened since then, Jacqui, including the whole history of Constitutional interpretation by the courts, which has authorized expanded Congressional authority and via Congress the expansion of the Executive offices. But you guys want to turn the clock back to 1776, right? Because, it’s important to keep women in the kitchen and nursery and black folks in their proper place, right?
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So, a President can just decide, hey, I think I’ll declassify in my mind the specifications for our latest generation hypersonic nuclear missiles so I can sell them to North Korea for 10 billion dollars, Jacqui? Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
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Oh, and the DOJ has made it clear that the only changes in the transcript from the audio is omission of filler stuff like uh and hmm and duplication like the second “was saying in, “So, as I was saying, was saying, . . .”
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LOL, Bob, I think WE the people will be the judge of what was left out of the transcript. If that is all it was let us HEAR it.
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EVERYTHING YOU SAY, JACQUI, IS FALSE. You must get this from the extremist right-wing media you consume.
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People from civilization run into Trumpanzees in Arkansas:
deliverance purty mouth boy (youtube.com)
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So, in answer to your question, in the short-term, the MAGA movement will be stopped at the polls. Trump will lose AGAIN this November, and he will claim that it was all rigged, and Trump supporters will believe him. But he will lose, and Biden will continue as president. This is close to a certainty, I think. In the long-term, the MAGA movement and the backward crap it believes in will disappear as the backward elderly people in rural Podunk who support it pass away and are supplanted by the young people coming up, who loathe everything those backward Trumpsters believe in.
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Support for Trump in the places where I live has often been characterized as rural. Yesterday as I drove out in the country near where I live, I realized that it is not really the country anymore. I used to drive past farmers in their fields baling hay and planting corn for their pigs. Now the country is one subdivision after another. These are not farmers. Their jobs are in the small, micropolitian towns within ten or twenty miles of their house. This is the rural support for trump. They do not understand the issues because they restrict their news intake to talk radio, often Christian radio, and Fox News when they get home.
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Well said, Roy. The radical right watches a steady stream of Fox News, OANN and Breitbart. They listen to extremist talk radio and read the false claims of right wing bloggers. They exist in a bubble of lies and fake conspiracies.
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It’s instructive to read the balderdash and poppycock posted by Jacqui which shows in detail a lot of the preposterous stuff that the Trump cult has come to believe. It’s astonishing, really. On ever point, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and certain, certain, certain, certain, certain. This utter claptrap that these people believe is being spoonfed them by Fox, OANN, Breitbart, the Daily Stormer, and other click bait for crazies sites.
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every, not ever, ofc
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I feel like I’m living in a different universe, because I see people tons of coverage of Trump that is anything but treating him like a normal candidate. I never watch TV news, but my wife had CNN on in the other room one day last week. It was a nonstop discussion of how Trump is incredibly dangerous and will rule as a despot. Literally hours of it, nonstop. Every op-ed or opinion piece I see about Trump in the NY Times is scathingly negative. Granted you’ve got Fox News and some of the other right-wing cable channels, but I assume we aren’t talking about them.
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The CNN programs I watch usually have a Trump supporter to counterbalance the outraged Democrat
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Diane writes: “What’s wrong with same-sex marriage, Jackie?”
The other pressing question is, Why does Jackie or SCOTUS have a say in who anyone decides to marry? CBK
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“Every op-ed or opinion piece I see about Trump in the NY Times is scathingly negative.”
Then you are very selectively reading the NYT.
And you are ignoring the “both sides” daily news coverage which is far more pervasive.
The truth is that every news article in the NYT about Biden is gratuitously negative.
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I disagree, but hard to resolve that disagreement here.
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The Times has repeatedly run page 1 articles that are negative towards Biden. He’s losing the Black vote, he’s losing the Hispanic vote, he’s losing the youth vote, he’s losing the Muslim vote, he’s losing the Jewish vote. No one knows anything about his legislative accomplishments. Stories about Trump’s major fumbles on stage are reported in a single paragraph deep in a long story. Is anyone voting for Biden?
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Why is it a problem if the Times has run page 1 articles that discuss things that are negative for the Biden campaign? If you were running the Times, I assume you would not instruct your reporters not to write articles that are negative about Biden.
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Why don’t they write equally negative articles about Trump?
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They do!
Here is a random samples of headlines of recent stories about Trump from the Times. These are all from the last few days:
C.E.O.s Are Frustrated. That Doesn’t Mean They Embrace Trump Trump Suggests Biden May Use Supplements to Get ‘Jacked Up’ for Debate: The former president has mocked his rival’s mental capacities, but at a rally in Philadelphia, his baseless accusation seemed to set the stage for a more formidable opponent
Donald Trump Said He Proposed a ‘Migrant League of Fighters’: Mr. Trump said his suggestion to Dana White, who runs the Ultimate Fighting Championship, was not well received. But, he added, “It’s not the worst idea I’ve ever had”
Trump Hawks American Flag Pins with His Name in Gold Splashed Across Them: Critics have accused the former president of co-opting the flag for personal gain. Some of his supporters have flown the flag upside-down to protest his 2020 defeat.
After Conviction, Trump Presents Himself as a Martyr to the Christian Right: The former president portrayed himself as having “wounds all over” while suggesting that he was being targeted for his support of religious freedoms.
Trump’s PAC, Which Pays His Legal Bills, Is Nearly Out of Cash: A fund-raising pact with the Republican Party is expected to replenish the money Donald J. Trump paid his lawyers as he faced three indictments and finished a criminal trial in New York
Biden Is Finally Reminding Voters of Trump’s Toxic Chaos: A new ad focuses on the ex-President’s criminal conviction
Trump Media Stock Down 46% Since Former President’s Conviction
Bragg Asks Judge to Extend Trump’s Gag Order, Citing Deluge of Threats: Donald J. Trump claims the order has unfairly restricted his free speech rights ahead of his sentencing on 34 felony counts. He has nonetheless attacked the judge, prosecutor and justice system.
And of course the op-ed writers are constantly churning out stories like this:
America’s Thirst for Authoritarianism
Why a Second Trump Presidency May Be More Radical Than His First
Talk of a Trump Dictatorship Charges the American Political Debate Make a New Year’s Resolution to Fight Trump
Etc. etc. etc. Sometimes I wonder if, much like Trump’s constant lying, the negative stories about Trump come in such high supply that our eyes just glaze over and ignore them all.
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FLERP,
You make sound points but you’re trying to reason with deeply in-the-bibble people here. The NYT is blatantly anti-Trump in both its “hard news” and opinion sections. They occasionally note problems with the Biden campaign, but their partisan slant is obvious to all but the most crazed partisans – as we see on this blog every day.
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Matt, you are right. I am passionately anti-Trump. For all the usual reasons, but also because I’ve lived in NYC since 1960 ( with a couple of years at Fort Gordon in Augusta, GA, and two years in DC). Trump has a well-established reputation as a playboy, a womanizer, and a buddy of Roy Cohn. A joke.
Now he says he will get rid of public schools. He will replace the U.S. Civil Service with political appointees. He wants to abandon NATO and Ukraine. He wants another tax cut for corporations and the billionaires.
I support Biden. That’s not “crazy partisanship.” That’s a rational decision on my part.
Where do you stand?
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Trump and the country are well beyond “normalization.” This man has been a political presence for 9 years. Prior to that, playboy billionaire, conniving businessman, and game show host. That is his element. And, half the country and every fearful republican drank the kool-aid.
He’s claimed the status of “victim” because he doesn’t get to do what he wants (regardless of the Constitution, norms, respect for anyone but himself). A lot of people can “relate” and love that he says it outloud.
Put up billboards everywhere (you can’t not see them). THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
This is not normal. Reagan, Nixon, Bush I, Bush II, Wallace, Cheney… take your pick. Conservative, ultra-conservative, one racist… but they were not GAME SHOW HOSTS. They were not abusive to the American public, they did not lead one STUNT after another… maybe vindictive behind the scenes but not to the American public and anyone who disagreed.
A president (and elected official who fear him) validating an attack on the Capitol. A president ignoring science. A president lying, bullying, blame game, discredit the media, DISCREDITING justices and the court system, delays and attacking judges after indicted, the list goes on.
The worst thing young folks have witnessed is: Today’s headlines no matter how horrible are forgotten tomorrow. “Oh, it’s No big deal. It didn’t affect what I did today.” (This is all a generation of young voters know).
This is not how it’s supposed to work and hasn’t been this way for two hundred years. Even the South seceded on their principles, not their ratings.
Politics is not reality tv. Presidents are not supposed to be flamboyant (charisma? yes. Cult leader? no). Todays headlines ARE tomorrow’s reality.
Missouri’s AG is obsessed with “wokeness.” We ain’t woke enough.
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Well said, Missouri!!!
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To the far Left, every Republican nominee for President since 1948 has been a would-be fascist, Eisenhower only excepted. This blog’s host and almost all of the readers here are part of the 8% of Americans who are classified as progressive Left, or more perjoratively, hyper-woke. Kevin Drum is a rare bird these days: a principled liberal who doesn’t allow partisanship to cloud his analysis of political data. As he noted three years ago and recently reiterated, “Since roughly the year 2000, according to survey data, Democrats have moved significantly to the left on most hot button social issues while Republicans have moved only slightly right.”
https://jabberwocking.com/if-you-hate-the-culture-wars-blame-liberals/
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LOL, how have Democrats moved to the left? Abandoning minimum wage increase? Polluting the environment? Losing abortion on their watch? Warmongering on all fronts? Giving up on race and LGBTQ issues? Going full fascist on immigration? Ending “welfare as we know it?” Honestly, there’s not a lot you should disagree with as far as anything Dems have done in the last 30 years since Clinton.
This blog is full of 92% centrists with no principles other than “Trump bad, vote blue no matter who” and 8% right-wing wackos like you who think the other 92% are “the left”. LOL.
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How do you know that I’m a “right-wing wacko”? You know nothing about me. The diehard Trump supporters who know me think that I’m a socialist because of my strong criticism of Trump.
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Democrats before Obama: Marriage is between a man and a woman.
democrats today: what is a woman?
democrats before Obama: abortion should be safe, legal and rare.
democrats today: there should be no restrictions on abortions. Shout your abortion. Lock up grannies who dare protest against one million dead a year.
democrats before Obama: we need a secure border.
democrats today. We must have an open border and change the demographics of the country.
democrats are losing and you best get used to it.
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If you actually followed any legitimate polls, Jacqui, such as those conducted by the Pew organization, then you would know that ON EVERY ISSUE, Repugnicans, nationwide, are on the opposite side from the young people of this country. The Repugnican party should be called the Greying Old People Party (the G O Pee Pee). You guys, with your backward, regressive policies and beliefs, HAVE LOST THE YOUTH OF AMERICA. ON EVERY ISSUE. And, substantial political science research shows that people’s political leanings tend to be consistent across the lifespan. What this means is that Repugnicans are dying out. Before long, it will go the way of the Know Nothing Party. Which is another name that the Trumpanzee Repugnican Party should consider taking on because it describes you folks perfectly. Every time you post, Jacqui, the post indicates a profound misperception, a misunderstanding, a failure to familiarize yourself with the facts. Utter cluelessness that comes from consuming Reichwing sensationalist propaganda media.
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Oh, and love is love. As long as it’s nonconsanguineous consenting adults, there is nothing wrong with it. Why are you people so obsessed with policing other people’s bedrooms? Get a life.
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I have never heard any Democrat say that there should be no restrictions on abortion. Never.
I have never heard a Democrat demand open borders. Biden and a bipartisan senate worked out an immigration bill that gave Tepublucans everything they wanted. Trump told them not to approve. The GOP killed the bill.
What’s wrong with same-sex marriage, Jackie?
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Okay, Diane, Tell me, what restrictions on abortion do democrats support? There have been hearings in congress where this question was asked and not ONE answered that question.
Democrats don’t have to “say” they are for open borders, we know them by their fruits and the testimony of Border Patrol whistleblowers. Biden’s grand plan that Republicans rightly rejected allowed 2500 illegal aliens to enter the country DAILY. That number should be zero. In addition to that crazy number, there were many exceptions to the 2500. It was a joke.
When Biden was elected Democrats gloated that they reversed all of Trumps border executive orders. Well now we have dead, raped women, don’t we.
The democrat party hates America, it is clear.
Soon this nightmare will be over. 25 percent of black Americans are turning to the Republican Party. Get used to it.
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The immigration plan was negotiated by a Republican senator and approved by most other Republican senators.
Abortion is legal in New York, a blue state: “People of all ages have the absolute right to abortion through the 24th week of pregnancy. After 24 weeks, abortion is permitted if your medical provider decides your fetus is not viable or your life, physical health, or mental health is at risk.”
In. Massachusetts, “Abortion care remains protected by a Massachusetts state law, the ROE Act, passed in 2020. Abortion care is legal in the state up to 24 weeks of pregnancy and after 24 weeks in cases of fatal fetal anomalies or to preserve the physical or mental health of a pregnant person.”
Where did you get the idea that Democrats support NO restrictions?
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“Democrats today: there should be no restrictions on abortions. Shout your abortion.”
Jacqui, this is simply false. Before the Puritan Magistrates of the Trump Extreme Court did away with Roe, there was a general consensus across the country that abortion was acceptable during the first two trimesters but thereafter only to save the mother. And we should be grateful that there are women who are willing to speak about their difficult decisions to have abortions to help other women facing the same decision. This is not “shouting your abortion,” and calling it that is an attack on those women who have bravely come forward to share their experiences.
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Jackie,
I am not aware of any state that has no restriction on abortion.
The typical limit in abortion is viability. A typical pregnancy leads to a live birth at 39 weeks. States that permit abortion consider 24 weeks to be the usual standard for viability.
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Good news for the pro-aborts: There were more abortions last year than before Roe was overturned. Abortion wasn’t abolished, unfortunately, it was returned to the states.
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Jackie,
Undoubtedly there were women who died because they needed an abortion and couldn’t get one.
A child gave birth in one southern state clutching her teddy bear.
Aren’t you proud of yourself? Children giving birth. Women dying. More abortions than ever.
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Jacqui – like I said, right wing wacko. Absolutely none of those things are true. Biden’s immigration policy is to the right of Trump’s. If you’d open your eyes, you’d see that Biden has been a right-winger’s dream president.
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Was it Biden who stuffed the courts with judges who wanted to overthrow Roe? I assume you approve. Will you also approve when they criminalize Contraception and gay relationships?
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I totally favor Republican judges because abortion is an evil that must end. I predict that in 100 years democrats will claim that ” the parties switched ” and tell us that we have always been at war with East Asia. Lunatics.
I don’t agree with “Gay marriage”, I haven’t changed my mind. I agree with Barry Obama circa 2008 when he was trying to get elected.
Question: do you think that Obama had a change of heart, or do you think that he was lying the entire time about his thoughts on changing the definition of marriage? Talk about some cult action. When Barry Obama “changed his mind” on changing the definition of marriage the WHOLE democrat party changed direction like a flock of birds. Crazy town. Now the democrat party is endorsing genital mutilation of children. Wow.
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Democrats have campaigned on codifying Roe my entire life. They’ve had ample opportunity to do it, but then it never seems to be a priority. Same with Project 2025. If they’re so worried about everything Trump is claiming he’ll do, what steps are they taking to prevent him from doing it? There’s only two possibilities: either they don’t really believe he’ll do it, or they don’t care if he does.
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There is so much projection in this article, it is laughable.
-Yes, a lot of people will get laid off from the beauracracy. Obama fired thousands. Government workers work at the pleasure of the president. Period. Democrats gleefully pointed out that government workers did all they could to thwart Trump’s agenda last time. We won’t let that happen again. We voted for Trump because we want his agenda.
-Going after his “enemies”? Doubtful, but I hope those who have committed crimes will be investigated. Particularly the January 6th committee and their illegal destruction of evidence. The list is long.
He should pardon most of the January 6th protesters. It is vital that Americans see that both sides of the aisle will be treated similarly. Democrat brown shirts aka anti-fa and BLM burned the country for months. Dozens died, billions in property damage, etc. Those “protesters” were never prosecuted and Democrats such as Kamala Harris and Jake Tapper encouraged them.
Discrediting the court and the justice system?? Wow! Look at how the leftist have been salvaging the SUPREME Court! Death threats? Just by luck a democrat with the aim to kill Kavenaugh and his family was stopped a block from the Kavenaugh home.
My question is: Will democrats allow Trump to be president? Will there be a peaceful transfer of power? Will Biden step down when Trump is re-elected? Will the FBI attempt a Coup? Will democrats respect the will of the American people?
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Jackie,
Civil Servants are not political appointees. They have lifetime tenure. They are not political partisans. Trump’s plan is to fire them all and replace them with Trump partisans.
When I worked in the George HW Bush administration, there were 500 employees in my department (education research). About 10 of them were political employees. The other 490 were civil servants. These are the permanent employees who make the government work.
Read the history of Civil Service reform.
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Ruth,
I was a conservative until about 2007. I worked for President Bush 1. I worked in several conservative think tanks. I consider myself a woke centrist.
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Trump will fire those he can, just as Obama did. He made a mistake in not doing it in his first term.
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Sure, Jacqui. It’s very important that in the second Trump term, we put in place in all federal offices people who are as completely stupid and ignorant about what they are supposed to be doing as Trump is. Why not make them all criminals like Trump, too? Just fire them all, send a bus to a ward for the criminally insane, and release them all to the West Wing, East Wing, Eisenhower Office Building, etc? We wouldn’t want someone who actually has spent 20 years studying water resources–a career official–dealing with water regulations, huh? Much better to have some random-ass person whom Trumpy dines with a Mar-a-lago take the job! What we want is incompetence all the way up the verticals! That’s how to run things, Repugnican style!!!
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Trump has said he will fire the entire Civil Service and replace them with MAGGOTS.
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Having Trump in the White House is like having an arsonist as chairman of a match factory. Trump is an amoral irresponsible verbal arsonist who cares nothing about the truth or sane decision making.
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The U.S. is a fascist country now, run by billionaires and corporations. Neither major political party cares about democracy. The concerns of working class citizens are ignored. Instead, money is spent waging illegal, immoral wars around the world. China builds electric cars while the U.S. manufactures weapons. Most Americans want Medicare for All, but the “leadership” of the two corporate-sponsored political parties opposes Medicare for All. Who will win in November’s election? I’m guessing that it doesn’t matter because neither democracy nor meaningful reform is on the ballot. Not this year, anyway.
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“The U.S. is a fascist country now, run by billionaires and corporations.”
And a special thanks goes to those who in 2016 who – knowing that the Supreme Court was tied 4-4 with an open seat – told us over and over on this blog that it wasn’t important that a Democrat fill the vacant seat. Those who said that “there was no difference” between having Trump appoint a right wing justice to maintain the 5-4 right wing majority – with the chance to fill even MORE vacancies with right wing justices – and having a GUARANTEED 5-4 progressive Supreme Court led by RBG for a year before RBG stepped down (2 years before her death). They still haven’t admitted they were wrong and acknowledged that having a Supreme Court and Federal Judiciary dominated by right wing Republicans increases fascism and having a Supreme Court and federal judiciary appointed by a Democrat decreases fascism.
They still haven’t admitted they were wrong and Bernie Sanders was correct when he urged them to vote for the Democrat to fill the vacant seat in 2016 and not to empower Trump. They presented themselves as being smarter than Bernie. Don’t trust Bernie, trust us, they said.
Now these fake progressives join their far right brethren and insult and attack both Bernie Sanders and AOC because they both endorsed Biden’s re-election early.
They are still lying to us about both parties being fascist and there’s no difference.
Bernie Sanders and AOC endorsed Biden’s re-election early because they KNEW that what some far left pro-fascists are saying here is false.
Who do we trust? The folks here who told us in 2016 that a right wing Supreme Court was no big deal – those who normalize (and I suspect secretly like) the right wing SC decisions that help destroy progressive legislation? Or Bernie and AOC?
Those who believe Bernie and AOC are lying to voters because Bernie and AOC are conspiring with the fascists are the folks who have no credibility at all. I suspect they share the values of the right, and believe that the end of democracy is a small price to pay to get what they believe they are entitled to have because they know better and they can’t be bothered to do the hard work of convincing other people their ideas are the good ones.
Bernie and AOC are not acceptable to them because they know the difference between fascism and democracy and the difference between truth and lies.
A case in point is the blatant lie posted in this comment that most people want Medicare for All and politicians who support “Medicare for All who want it” instead of Medicare for All are fascist. In fact, many voters whose unions gave them good health insurance strongly opposed being FORCED to give up their hard won union health insurance for Medicare – even if their supposedly evil and corrupt union leaders endorsed Medicare for All. I suspect these same people who think Bernie and AOC are fascists will now be ranting here about how rank and file union members are secretly fascists for not supporting Medicare for All and “only” supporting the fascist Biden idea of Medicare for all who want it.
These liars want us to believe that there is “no difference” between politicians who support “Medicare for All who want it” and politicians who want to end Medicare (and essentially all social programs) because they are all equally fascists.
When the TRUTH is that there is not all that much difference between the Democrats who support Medicare for All and those who support Medicare for All who want it, which is why Bernie and AOC endorsed Biden’s re-election. When the TRUTH is that there is a vast difference between the people who want Medicare for All who want it and the party that opposes all “government” healthcare and opposed the very idea of Medicare for senior citizens from the beginning..
It is true that – thanks to the people on the far right and far left who were determined to prevent a Democrat from filling an open Supreme Court seat in 2016 – our country is more fascist than it would have been if the Democrat had won in 2016 and we had the progressive Supreme Court that was the guaranteed outcome with a Court tied 4-4 and a vacant seat. Anti-abortion voters, religious right voters, racist voters, anti-progressive voters KNEW what was at stake in 2016. Those who kept telling us nothing was at stake because both parties were fascists were either useful idiots for the far right or right wing trolls who hate progressive ideas. It takes some chutzpah for those same folks who said “the Supreme Court doesn’t matter” in 2016 to say “both parties fascist” in 2024. I don’t know why they can’t be like Bernie and AOC and fight honestly for progressive ideas, but I assume it is because they are right wing trolls who hate progressive ideas. But it’s possible they are simply useful idiots for the far right, and that’s what makes them distrust Bernie Sanders and AOC and believe the lie that another Trump term will do no harm to progressives.
Only ONE party is fascist, and Bernie and AOC know it is the Republican party. Anything else is a blatant lie.
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“Only ONE party is fascist, and Bernie and AOC know it is the Republican party. Anything else is a blatant lie.”
I do not see how this statement can be credibly disputed.
Case in point:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/nation/2021/01/07/front-pages-capture-chaos-riots-us-capitol/6577931002/
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James,
Is there a difference between Supreme Court appointed by Biden or Trump?
Is Ketanji Brown Jackson indistinguishable from Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch? Would you like another Thomas and Alito?
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While better on issues of race, sex, and gender, Supreme Court nominees of Obama and Biden are no threat to the billionaires and corporations that own the U.S. government. Working class citizens have no friends on the Supreme Court.
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When a government shows you who it serves (money), blame the voters. When a government proves your vote is less than the electoral college vote, call it a democracy. When a government is staffed by “credentialed” experts, blame less titled mortals for the inefficiency of the experts. When privileges are legalized for the few, at the expense of the many, call it a democracy. When government personnel act as if the electoral college could transform a rump into a trustworthy holder of national vulnerabilities, blame the “less informed.” When a spoiled apple (rump) sells in a rotten market, blame Vlad. When the crazy flag is waved, repeat (speak and write) what hasn’t stopped the crazy flag, and tell ’em they’re crazy…
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Donald Trump is complaining that quoting him makes him sound cognitively impaired.
“We’re now doing a hydrosonic–I call them ‘super dupers’–missile.” –Donald Trump at a rally in Arizona.
Hydrosonic superdoopers.
That doesn’t, per se, make you sound cognitively impaired, Donald. It makes you sound as though you are three. But then, a seventy-year-old who sounds like he’s three is probably severely cognitively impaired.
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Vietnam has a number of “Temples of Literature” dedicated to the memory of great scholars like Confucius.
We have classified documents piled up on a ballroom stage and bathroom floor in Trump’s trashy Mar-a-Lago and a “judge” intent, it seems, on never allowing his trial for his egregious violations of the Espionage Act ever to take place.
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Don’t forget the classified documents that Biden Stole and left in boxes by his Corvette and in four other locations. He NEVER had declassifying powers. Never.
He is so brain-addled that they don’t feel they can prosecute him. Soon enough, the tapes will come out of the interview, and the traitors who are hiding the fact that we don’t have a president; we have a shadow government will be held to account. They will be investigated. At the very least none of them can hold office again.
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Purest whataboutism, but if you read Hur’s report, you will know the difference between the nothingburger that were the Biden documents charges and the major breach of our national security that took place with Trump. Really, inform yourself. Trump had stacks and stacks of boxes contained some of the most highly classified documents–stuff that revealed military plans and methods and sources of U.S. intelligence–stuff that puts people’s lives in grave danger–the lives of people serving our country–on a ballroom stage and in an unlocked bathroom. And he knew they were highly classified, for he was recorded saying that to people. How can you support this vile, anti-American sleazebag? It’s shocking that you do. Inform yourself. Read the Hur report. I did. BIG DIFFERENCE between the Biden and Trump cases, but at any rate, that’s whataboutism. If Biden had sold classified documents to Iran and North Korea, THAT WOULD NOT MAKE TRUMP ANY LESS LIABLE FOR VIOLATING THE ESPIONAGE ACT. He should be in prison for that. Anyone else would be.
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Big differences. The Trump documents were far more serious. And Biden cooperated fully with investigators, as Hur says, while Trump moved documents around, lied about having returned them all, delayed and delayed and delayed.
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I often wonder about the ability of Trump-era Republicans to think at all. Do you really believe that Trump could just wave a magic wand in his head and declassify things? Is that how you imagine our system for protecting our most sensitive secrets works? HAAAAAAA! OMG. This would be funny if it weren’t so tragic that people believe such bullshit.
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“Soon enough, the tapes will come out of the interview”
HAAAAA! The full transcripts of the Hur-Biden interviews have LONG been available. There is not some hidden secret awaiting revelation. ROFL. Is this another gem you picked up from the Reichwing “news” you consume so avidly, Jacqui?
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I’ll take a competent corporate Biden presidency over the absolute disaster that was Donald Trump ANY day. He abandoned our allies the Kurds, who had helped us defeat ISIL, leading to the resignation of his superbly competent SECDEF and to the horror of his Joint Chiefs. He ordered his Secretary of Homeland Security to have the Border Patrol SHOOT innocent, unarmed asylum seekers and conducted a campaign of mass kidnapping whereby kids as young as little babies were taken from their parents and shipped off god knows where. He completely gutted the Clean Air and Clean Water acts. He never delivered the healthcare bill that he kept promising “any day now” or “within a week.” He similarly never delivered his infrastructure bill. He increased the federal deficit by 7.8 TRILLION dollars.
And he thought that stealth airplanes were actually invisible and that we should send astronauts to the sun and nuke hurricanes and sweep forests and buy Greenland and inject disinfectant.
A traitorous, seditious career con man and sexual predator versus a statesman.
No, this is not a difficult decision to make. If Biden’s presidency is being run by the astonishingly capable people he hired, who cares? At least Biden is not AN INSANE PERSON who thinks that a dementia screening is an IQ test and keeps talking about how he lusts after HIS DAUGHTER, a pathological liar and a malignant narcissist. Ronald Reagan was completely senile during his second term, but he delivered Perestroika and Detente.
So how is Biden doing? Let’s look at some leading economic indicators:
The current unemployment rate is 4.0 percent, significantly below the historical average of 5.69 percent.
The average annual inflation rate over the past 12 months was 3.3 percent. This is a TINY bit over the average annual inflation rate over the past 20 years, which was 2.51 percent. Hourly wage increases are at an average of 4.1 percent–HIGHER THAN THE INFLATION RATE.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average, today, is 38,589.16 USD. On the last day of the Trump presidency, it was 30,930.52, 7,658.64 points lower. The S&P today is 5431.60. At the end of the Trump presidency, it was 3,798.91, 1632.69 points lower.
Under Biden, American oil production has reached its largest volume in recorded history—more than 13.2 million barrels per day in October, official figures show—outpacing its highest point under Don the Con,13 million barrels daily in November 2019.
Trump tried to bribe Ukraine and delayed aid to that country illegally. He was impeached for this. He says now that he would cut off aid to Ukraine before his second presidency even starts (ofc, he cannot do this; Trump is an idiot and is profoundly ignorant about most everything; he STILL thinks that China pays the tariffs we place on its goods). Trump unilaterally withdrew from the INF and Open Skies treaties at the very time when Putin was fielding hypersonic nuclear missiles. Trump stored top secret documents containing info about our defense capabilities and plans and our intelligence sources and methods, in violation of the Espionage Act, in a freaking bathroom and on the stage in a ballroom at his breathtakingly tacky golf club and home in Flor-uh-duh.
Quite the guy. A career con man who cheated children’s charities, constrictors, and middle-class people trying to further their educations (with his fake university). A “Christian” who cannot name a single Bible verse and thinks there is a book called “Two Corinthians” (as in “two Corinthians walk into a bar?) and who exemplifies in excess every one of the seven deadly sins. An adjudged fraudster and rapist and lifelong sexual predator. A guy who told a reporter that he was carrying on an affair because his wife had “ruined her body” having children (his children!!!!) and that, being rich, he could have anyone he wanted.
Some guy, your Glorious Leader! A total lowlife. The weirdest thing in all of this is that supposed Christians support this sleazebag.
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The documents that Biden retained were his personal notes. He promptly turned them over.
Trump retained nuclear secrets, military secrets, names of our spies. For a year, he refused to return them. He hasn’t hundreds of classified documents. They were scattered around his house, some in a bathroom open to the public. He claimed they belong to him. They don’t.
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Diane, you spread so much disinformation, relentlessly. Joe Biden held on to documents he STOLE when he was a senator. He stole documents from a SCIF! He had documents for DECADES, he didn’t “turn them over promptly”.
Snopes FINALLY came out today and corrected the LIE that Trump praised Neo-nazi’s in Charlottesville. That Lie started in 2017 and our crap media has been lying about it ever since.
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I think the only way Traitor Trump might win this election through fraud by lying and cheating with lots of lying and cheating help from his loyalist, fascist MAGA cult.
I also think if the Traitor wins through the Electoral College (the only way he can win through fraud by lying and cheating in the few battle ground states that will decide the election), that the United States will not survive as a unified country.
Some if not all BLUE states will leave and continue supporting democracy be sticking with the US Constitution, while some if not all RED states led by Flordia, Texas, and Louisiana will follow Traitor Trump, pledging total loyalty to their antichrist, while he flushes the US Constitution down one of his gold plated toilets, and proclaims Mar a Lago his White House.
No telling what will happen next.
If the traitor tries to be Lincoln and declares war against the BLUE state, for sure, the military will split like it did during the 19th century Civil War, but the majority of active duty troops fighting for the BLUE states, led by the most competent generals ,while the Traitor only appoints dumb ditto loyalists to lead his rabble. And like Hitler, the traitor will overrule any rational thought regarding combat plans, guaranteeing the RED states will lose.
Next, all out civil war with the traitor’s’s army attacking the BLUE states and getting obliterated.
Will Traitor Trump then use nuclear weapons to destroy the BLUE states in a desperate attempt to not lose the war and stay in power?
Or Maybe Putin will send the Russian Army to fight for Traitor Trump before using nukes.
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Hmmm, Lloyd. Trump is not known for his military acumen. True he attended a private, expensive military high school. But he never served in any branch of the military. Five deferments. Neither of his sons served either.
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Get a grip, Lloyd! 🤣
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Is that what Putin says to his adversaries as they cling to the ledge?
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Democrats LOVE Putin! They manage to work him into any conversation.
Get a grip meaning: regain your self control and their composure, Lloyd.
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Democrats mention Putin often because they are so aghast that the leader of one of the major American political parties is Putin’s dog, and Putin is one of the most evil men who ever lived. Educate yourself, Jacqui. It’s not too late.
Putin and Trump: A Backgrounder | Bob Shepherd | Praxis (wordpress.com)
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Seriously, some people are vomiting up this old bromide that there is no difference between the parties. There damn well is a giant difference when it comes to the SCOTUS, there’s a big difference between Elena Kagan and Samuel Alito, for instance. In times past, a D appointed Ruth Ginsburg to the SCOTUS while an R appointed Brett Kavanaugh to the highest judicial office. BIG DIFFERENCE on steroids. Not to mention, there’s a huge difference between Trump and Biden. One is a raving serial liar while Biden is sincerely trying to do his best for the people. My big worry is that too many Americans won’t vote and we could end up with the lying liar who talks rubbish and nonsense on an hourly basis or whenever he opens his maw.
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One’s mileage may vary, but it’s been a while since I’ve heard “the parties are all the same.” Nothing like compared to 2016 and before.
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James Eales, June 24, 2024 at 11:49 am
“The U.S. is a fascist country now, run by billionaires and corporations. NEITHER MAJOR POLITICAL PARTY cares about democracy.”
“Most Americans want Medicare for All, but the “leadership” of the two corporate-sponsored political parties opposes Medicare for All. Who will win in November’s election? I’m guessing that IT DOESN’T MATTER because neither democracy nor meaningful reform is on the ballot.”
It hasn’t been a while at all since I heard the same nonsense spewed here today that I heard in 2016 and 2020. It all boils down to “stay home, vote third party, but whatever you do, don’t vote for Democrats because that is the same as voting for the Republicans IN EVERY WAY THAT MATTERS.
It’s no surprise that the message that it doesn’t matter which party you vote for is NEVER directed at conservative voters — only at the left.
Try to tell any conservative voter that there is no difference between the two parties and they’d call you a liar. They understand the urgency of voting Republican if the US is going to become the Christo-fascist country of their dreams. They are already halfway there.
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I didn’t mean randos with fake names on the internet. I meant people that I interact with in life.
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I noticed that one commenter on this thread complained – citing ONE source – that it is Democrats who are extremist.
Except, that isn’t true.
In the 2021 race for governor in Virginia, for example, Republican Glenn Youngkin campaigned on a racist lie that Critical Race Theory permeated Virginia’s public schools.
As the NY Times explained it,
“Glenn Youngkin, the Republican candidate in Virginia, stoked the resentment and fear of white voters, alarmed by efforts to teach a more critical history of racism in America…he released an ad that was a throwback to the days of banning books, highlighting objections by a white mother and her high-school-age son to ‘Beloved,’ the canonical novel about slavery by the Black Nobel laureate Toni Morrison….the past half-century of American political history shows that racially coded attacks are how Republicans have been winning elections for decades…Youngkin dragged race into the election, making his vow to ‘ban critical race theory’ a centerpiece of his stump speech and repeating it over the closing weekend — Race is the elephant in the room.”
University of Virginia political analyst Larry Sabato put it like this:
“The operative word is not critical.And it’s not theory. It’s race. What a shock, huh? Race. That is what matters. And that’s why it’s sticks. There’s a lot of, we can call it white backlash, white resistance, whatever you want to call it. It has to do with race. And so we live in a post-factual era … It doesn’t matter that [CRT] isn’t taught in Virginia schools. It’s this generalized attitude that whites are being put upon and we’ve got to do something about it. We being white voters.”
Hmmm. Republicans and racism. Who knew?
The American Enterprise Institute, no liberal bastion, said its surveys find that the Democratic Party “is more racially and ethnically diverse, includes a larger share of college-educated adults, and has more people who self-identify as liberal. It also includes far fewer religious people…Still, the party retains important ideological diversity.”
By contrast, the Republican Party is overwhelmingly white.
Pew Research reported in March, 2022 that “Democrats on average have become somewhat more liberal, while Republicans on average have become much more conservative…Nearly half of House Republicans now come from Southern states, while nearly half of House Democrats are Black, Hispanic or Asian/Pacific Islander…only one of the 91 Southern House Republicans is Black.”
Hmmm. See a pattern here?
CBS reported survey results in May, 2022 that found “The Republican Party is described by a slight majority [54 percent] as ‘extreme,’ a term Americans apply to the GOP more so than to Democrats…Independents are more likely to call the GOP extreme. The GOP…is also described by Americans more often as ‘hateful’ than as ;caring’ — by double digits.”
Hmmm. Republicans are perceived as being Extreme and Hateful. Who would have guessed?
A Gallup poll in January 2023 found this:
“After hovering near 50% in recent years, the percentage of Democrats who identify as politically liberal rose four percentage points in 2022 to 54%…Republicans’ ideology did not change appreciably in 2022, with 72% describing their political views as conservative.”
Worse, an extensive survey reported in PLoS One this year looked at MAGA Republicans, defined as “Republicans who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and agreed strongly or very strongly with the statement that ‘the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.’ ”
The findings?
• “MAGA Republicans were more likely to be female. MAGA Republicans were less likely than all other groups to have a bachelor’s or postgraduate degree…”
• æBy wide margins, MAGA Republicans were more likely than others to agree strongly or very strongly that force or violence might be justified under three sets of circumstances: 1) to ‘protect American democracy…if elected leaders will not,’ 2) to save ‘our American way of life’ that is ‘disappearing so fast,’ and 3) to ‘save our country’ because ‘things have gotten so far off track’.”
• “MAGA Republicans were more likely than other Republicans and non-Republicans (but not strong Republicans) to view violence under those circumstances as usually or always justified. They were more likely than all other groups to consider violence to prevent harm or damage to property as usually or always justified…Conversely, more than 80% of respondents across all groups reported that violence to win an argument, respond to an insult, or get respect was never justified, and fewer than 5% of respondents in any group saw viewed such violence as usually or always justified.”
So, WHO – exactly – are the extremists?
It’s clear, is it not?
Anyone voting for an insurrectional seditionist IS a seditionist.
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/nation/2021/01/07/front-pages-capture-chaos-riots-us-capitol/6577931002/
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Another commenter on this thread says that Trump DIDN’T REALLY say that there were “very fine people on both sides” at the ‘Unite the Right’ riot in Charlottesville on August 12, 2017.
Except, that he DID.
Here’s Trump:
“you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”
“If you look at what I said, you will see that that question was answered perfectly. And I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general. Whether you like it or not, he was one of the great generals.”
“But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee.”
Trump seems NOT to know or UNWILLING to accept the fact that those who revere Robert E. Lee are Confederate sympathizers, and the Confederacy was established for the explicit purpose of perpetuating slavery and white supremacy.
Here’s part of the Trump interview:
Reporter: “The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest –“
Trump: “Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
Reporter: “George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same.”
Again, Trump has deep, deep problems with his knowledge and understanding of American history.
Here’s NPR on the ‘Unite the Right’ riot in Charlottesville:
“On the night of Aug. 11, 2017, Neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klansmen and other white supremacists marched through the University of Virginia campus bearing torches and terrorizing students with chants of ‘Blood and soil’ and ‘Jews will not replace us.’
“The next day, they rallied around the Lee statue at the downtown park.”
“‘This represents a turning point for the people of this country,’ then–KKK leader David Duke declared at the time. ‘We’re going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump because he said he’s going to take our country back.’ “
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/12/1116942725/the-charlottesville-rally-5-years-later-its-what-youre-still-trying-to-forget
The Neo-Nazis and KKKers and Confederate white supremacists ALL adore Trump. He IS their boy.
There’s a reason for that.
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Democracy: My view about the psychology of racism (at least part of it) is that when you grow up with such ideologies (any of them) they easily become embedded in with one’s basic psychic complex, and so with one’s feelings and imagery aka: one’s normativity and even self-identity. If not rooted out to at least become conscious by one’s education, the changing social order, and/or one’s habits of self-reflection, and when that ideology (in this case, racism or sexism) is threatened by circumstances, the threat is felt and imagined as an attack on one’s very existence.
Violence against black people (in this case) is rooted in that more general psychological scenario. Specifically in this case, the idea that (1) black people are inferior (et al) and (2) white people are superior, however vague that two-sided idea is in one’s mind, the bias has become so normative (to them and to their supporting culture) that ANY intrusion into it is felt and imagined as sharp stick in an open wound, namely, an existential threat (by in fact racist and so thought-less, unreflective people).
Concretely, when a racist experiences a black person or persons expecting social or political equality and the kind of freedoms that white people expect and experience, or (for instance) becoming president or writing a best-selling book, or even just taking a seat at the front of the bus, or (God forbid) marrying a white person, or just doing well in life (ad infinitum) and better than a white person/racist, the racist’s built-in sense of superiority takes an existential hit–they feel it and just go with it as if it were the most normal thing they could do.
And BTW all people are prone to such movements of mind, which is one reason public education based on democratic principles is (1) essential for democracies and (2) thought of as a threat by and to so many MAGA people.
I’ve said this before here, but when the white thugs marched in Charlottesville shouting “Jews will not replace us,” my suspicion is that (1) Jews have no interest in replacing them or anyone; and (2) the marchers’ fear is based in thinking that the freedom and equality of Jews, black people, etc., is by its very nature an attack on the lifelong existential normativity the marchers think, imagine, and feel, which is based on an embedded but false sense of existential superiority. Such biases if not uprooted, really are a blight on one’s soul.
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