For years, charter friends and charter foes have debated whether charter schools are public schools and whether they are, like public schools, “state actors.” The lame-duck Attorney General of Oklahoma recently declared that religious schools could be charter schools. He seems to believe that privately managed charter schools are not public schools, because no one claims that religious schools are public schools. His opinion does not have the force of law, but you can see that Oklahoma is eager to give public money to religious schools.
The AG’s opinion raises many questions. If charter schools are religious schools, may they limit admission only to members of their faith? May they exclude gay students, teachers, and families? May they substitute religious books for the state textbooks? May they indoctrinate their students into their faith? If charter schools are religious schools, how do they differ from voucher schools? What state regulations apply to them, if any?
Peter Greene writes about the issue here:
The Supreme Court has slowly and steadily busted a hole in the wall between church and state when it comes to education. AG opinion: Statute barring charter school operators from religious affiliation unconstitutional (nondoc.com)
In a fifteen-page opinion issued December 1, Attorney General John O’Connor argued that in the wake of Trinity Lutheran, Espinoza, and Carson, he believed that SCOTUS would “very likely” find Oklahoma’s charter law restriction on nonsectarian or religious charters unconstitutional. Therefore, his opinion is that the state should no longer follow the law forbidding sectarian or religious charter schools.
Each of those cases elevated the free exercise clause of the First Amendment over the establishment clause. In other words, the court has repeatedly (and in a break from previous court decisions) found that the free exercise of religious beliefs outweighs any restrictions against government-sponsored religious activity.
Carson v. Makin in particular established that if the state allows for taxpayer funding of any non-public secular schools, it cannot exclude religious schools from the chance to receive taxpayer funding. While Carson involved school vouchers and private schools, observers like Kevin Welner, director of the National Education Policy Center at the University of Colorado at Boulder’s School of Education, noted that in light of these three decisions, “states will probably be forced to let churches and other religious institutions apply for charters and operate charter schools.”
While charter schools have often been considered public schools (at least part of the time), the extension of free-exercise protections, as Welner wrote after the prior decision, complicate the issue.
If courts side with a church-run charter school, finding that state attempts to restrict religiously infused teachings and practices at the school are an infringement on the church’s free-exercise rights, then the circle is complete: Charter school laws have become voucher laws.
Justice Sotomayor, when dissenting on Carson, noted that
“in just a few years, the Court has upended constitutional doctrine, shifting from a rule that permits States to decline to fund religious organizations to one that requires States in many circumstances to subsidize religious indoctrination with taxpayer dollars.”
Given the previous decisions, an attempt by charter supporters to extend religion to charter schools was probably inevitable.
Charter supporters, including Governor Kevin Sitt and State Superintendent of Public Instruction-elect Ryan Walters praised the decision. Officials of the Catholic Church in Oklahoma, the church likely to go after the taxpayer funding made available by this opinion (there are reports that they have an application for a Catholic virtual charter school ready to go), also praised the decision, as did officials of the American Federation for Children, the pro-privatization group with connections to Betsy DeVos.
The potential complications are many. If the taxpayers of Oklahoma are going to be compelled to fund religious charter schools, which religions will qualify for those dollars, and who will decide?
Oklahoma law designates charters as public schools, but how much discrimination in the name of religious exercise will the state allow? O’Connor argues that charges of discrimination can only be brought against state actors, and “actions taken by charters are unlikely to fit this bill.” So are charter schools public schools or not, and to what degree should taxpayers be forced to fund schools that exist in some sort of fuzzy grey law-free zone?
AG John O’Connor was a Trump nominee for a United States district judge in 2018; the American Bar Association rated him “not qualified,” and his nomination was withdrawn. After Oklahoma’s previous attorney general resigned in May of 2021 over “personal matters,” Governor Stitt appointed O’Connor to the office. O’Connor ran for the office this year and was defeated in the primary, making him a lame duck in the office.
An opinion such a this does not carry the weight of law, and it is possible that the matter will be tested in court. But given the foundation laid by the Supreme Court, it takes no great stretch to reach the conclusion that O’Connor did. They ripped the hole in the wall; he just walked through it.
The bizarre thing, of course, is that many of these religious zealot judges and justices we appointed by Trump, who boldly exemplifies all of the seven deadly sins (pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony and sloth); laughs at religious people; and worships only himself and Mammon. The pic of Trump holding the Bible upside down? Perfect.
So, two Corinthians walk into a bar. . . .
cx: were appointed
So, two Corinthians walk into a bar. The first says to the other, “Well, what do you fancy today, Diphtheria?”
“I was thinking perhaps fermented goat’s milk. How about you, Trichinosis?”
“Think I’ll go for a kykeon spritz,” says Trichinosis. One of those and you’re undergoing apotheosis. Got to be careful, though. Two and you’ve erased almost all mental functioning, rendering you indistinguishable from, say, Donald Trump or Clarence Thomas.
Why do right-wingers want to overturn the clear precedent of separation of church and state in schooling? Well, they can read the polls. They can see that on issue after issue–guns, abortion, Medicare for all, taxes, climate change, LGBTQX rights, etc.–there is, among young people, a SUPERMAJORITY that is against them. If right-wingers don’t reeducate and convert MILLIONS of young people, they are facing extinction a generation from now. And what better way to effect indoctrination of a new generation of right-wing lemmings than to create fundamentalist Christian madrasas around the country? Doing so would also have the salubrious effects, from their point of view, of killing teachers’ unions (which are a public-school phenomenon) and diverting billions of taxpayer dollars into private profits.
However, right-wingers, be careful what you ask for. For much of their history, the nation states of Europe were officially theocratic, with what our founders called “established”–by which they meant “government-sponsored”–religions. After the Reformation, there were Protestant nation states and Catholic nation states. In England, the monarch was officially the head of the church.
When Jefferson wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, which provided the basis for the clause in Article Six of our Constitution that prohibited a religious test for office and later for the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, there were those who were horrified by this Roger Williams-like call for strict separation. Would the new United States become an irreligious country?
Well, precisely the opposite happened. Today, in the former theocratic nation states of Europe, religious belief is in sharp decline, and many fine churches stand empty. In the United States, with its wall of separation between religion and the state, religion flourishes, and literally thousands of denominations have sprung up. Freedom is a fertile soil.
Nutcase Evangelicals like the Arizona AG or those who gathered around Don the Con in the Offal Office in his Whiter House might think they want government sanctioning of religion–the use of taxpayer dollars to fund their madrasas. But they won’t, if they are successful, end up with the Handmaid’s Tale world they so fervently pray (prey?) for. They will end up with schools full of kids pushing back against the rigidity, the stupidity, the dullness and ignorance, of the official line, what with the arc of history and all. LOL.
In the short term, however, for many decades, before we arrive at that future blessed irreligiosity, there will be much strife if the justices allow taxpayer funding of religious schools. If they force the country to swallow this diseased Apple of Discord, much sickness will result in the Body Politic, which is already on life support due to the autoimmune disease of factionalism. The question will arise, over and over, again and again, in other areas of public life. Will the citizens of a town be able to declare it officially Christian? Will the Church of Satan and the Wiccans and the ayahuasca churches and the Pastafarians and the Church of Bob (yes, there is such a thing) and the Church of the Dude be able to set up schools in Florida and Mississippi and demand taxpayer dollars (in the form of vouchers or direct subsidies) for those? What will the bible thumpers of Florida and Mississippi and Tennessee and Texas think of that?
So, there will be all these battles, further dividing us, further factionalizing us, at the very time when we are so factionalized that reasonable pundits are talking about the possibility of Civil War again in these dis-United States.
Lord help us. LOL.
I find it fascinating that while Red state legislatures pass voucher laws, they do their damndest to block referenda on vouchers.
Every time voters have been asked to vote on vouchers, vouchers lose.
That is democracy.
Politicians in red states don’t want democracy to breathe. They try to choke it behind closed doors and then impose their will on everyone else. Unfortunately, they have gotten away with it for far too long.
Every time. That is just remarkable, and you are the only one who consistently makes this important point. Thank you, Diane!
If right-wingers think they can educate their children out of more liberal Dem-leaning ideas, they are deluded. Of course they can try. But kids these days can see and hear the world beyond their enclaves on a daily [hourly] basis. And more to the point: if their enclaves do not offer decent higher ed and/ or jobs, they will be leaving—and be exposed to a wider world. It was ever thus.
Thank goodness for that. Young people do not live in a hermetically sealed bubble.
YES. So, here’s the thing: we have to hold the line against the Fascist takeover for a decade longer. The only way they can get their way is to seize power within this short window, erect barriers to voting, and exercise state violence to enforce the continuance of their regime.
The other night the school choir put on the Candlelight Christmas Concert at school . All religious songs. I have no trouble with that. All the good music was influenced by European religions. Most of the modern repertoire is too complex for those who are below professional level. I am okay with that, and they also do a secular program with all the favorites from the mall. After all, “HaveYourself a Merry Little Christmas “ starts out with the same major triad that begins Bach’s 3rd Brandenburg Concerto. Music is music. I do not mind funding public schools that engage in the study of religion-based music and literature.
What bothers me is the finding of religious programs that support strident views of humanity detrimental to all of us. I know places where white supremacy comes from the pulpit. Where scientific ignorance is a willful part of life. I should not have to fund that.
There is plenty of good music in the world not influenced by European religions.
So, so much amazing music.
Over thirty-five years ago I took off a half day from work so I could see my son’s 1st grade holiday show. Not only were traditional Christmas carols sung, there were kids dressed up in a manger scene. I wasn’t offended, but it made me cringe because it didn’t seem appropriate in a public school. I think all religions should be respected, but public schools should stay away from religious expression of any particular religion. It’s divisive, IMO.
Amen
There are plenty of secular seasonal songs. There is no need to impose people’s religion on others in a public-school setting.
Winter Wonderland
Frosty the Snowman
Skating (Vince Guaraldi)
Linus and Lucy (Vince Guaraldi)
The Holly and the Ivy
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
You’re a Mean One, Mr. Grinch
Sleigh Ride
Up on the Housetop
To Drive the Cold Winter Away (Loreena McKinnett)
I LOVE Christmas music. But its place is not in a public school with kids who are Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Agnostic, Atheist, Jain, Sikh, etc. etc. That’s just not OK.
I disagree. School is a place to take all people seriously. Do we not introduce the Baroque because that great flowering of artistic culture was fueled by a huge effort on the part of the Catholic Church in the reaction to the reformation? If so, we misunderstand motivations of European political and social movements. Do we ignore the wonderful rhythms in African music because they were inspired by particular religious ceremony?
Do we reject certain folk musics because its participants were racists?
You have a point, Roy, but such a concert is not part of a unit of instruction on the cultural influence of the Christian church in Europe. It’s a celebration of a particular religious holiday. That’s a quite different matter. I myself taught my students quite a lot about the interface between Christianity and American history as part of my American literature classes. I believed this to be quite important to understanding who we are as Americans and how we got here. But the Christmas concert is a different matter. Does that make sense?
I never disagree with Bob, who basically knows everything.
But I disagree about excluding religious music from school.
As a Jew, I have no objections to Christmas carols. I’m glad that I learned the words to most of them when I was in public school many years ago. So many great musical works were written as masses.
😀 Bob & Roy– This conversation is reminding me of a long-ago comment by my husband when I finally got back into classical chorale singing: “But why does it always have to be religious music?” Pretty tough to find complex, challenging oratorio, especially from the baroque period, which is not. 19thC opera demands too much from local talent, and secular Medieval music is generally designed for much smaller groups. Then, too, the community groups which host such choirs [discounted rent on rehearsal space!] are… churches.
Again, I LOVE classical music of all kinds. I am a classical and jazz guitarist. So that’s not the issue. It’s whether a particular religious ideology is promulgated in a public school.
But Roy raises and interesting issue. Consider this: I have long thought Wallace Stevens one of the greatest poets of the 20th century. He has given us such breathtaking works as “Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird” and “Credences of Summer”–masterpieces.
But he was a disgusting racist. There is no doubt about this. What does one do with these two contradictory pieces of information?
Dismiss him outright? Draw a distinction between the work and the man? Recognize that though he read widely and wrote across vastnesses of time and space, he lived a really narrow life, associating almost exclusively with his wife and children and his fellow early and mid-century fatcat white bankers? Does one simply recognize that both can be true of a person–that in some ways he or she can be a genius and in others a narrow-minded dunce?
I have a particular love for Christmas music and Christmas carols. I always look forward to a season in which I will be hearing “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas,” “O Holy Night,” “Bring a Torch, Jeanette Isabella,” “O Come O Come, Emmanuel,” “Carol of the Bells,” and so much more. But there are other venues. Or one can do, in public school, music from many religious and traditions.
Wonderful to hear of your experience as a singer, Ginny!!! xoxoxo
And I am willing to be schooled about this. Perhaps one needs to be flexible about these rules. Unsure about this. I want to hear from the Muslim and Hindu kids and parents about what they think about this matter.
Paul Simon’s “Bridge over Troubled Water” uses a melody from a Bach chorale. Simon’s “American Tune” uses a melody based on Bach’s setting of a hymn “O Sacred Head, Now Wounded” from his St. Matthew Passion, itself a resetting of “Mein G’müt ist mir verwirret” by Hans Leo Hassler. And Procol Harem’s hit “A Whiter Shade of Pale” is based on Bach’s Air on a G String.
A Bach g string was not anything I could have imagined prior to reading this.
Why should a Muslim or Hindu or Agnostic student in chorus class have to choose between singing songs in praise of the Christian god OR risking ostracization and opprobrium by choosing not to participate? The problem can be easily avoided by not choosing to do religious music in a public-school program.
Using the logic of Citizens United and Janus how is using my tax dollars to support religious beliefs I do not share not a violation of my free speech rights. Of course hypocrisy rhymes with theocracy and the Taliban 6 do not give a crap about looking like hypocrites.
Joel,
I agree.
Using my tax dollars to support religious beliefs that are not mine or that actually demonize my religion is a violation of my rights.
My personal litmus test for whether or not someone supports religious freedom is “Do you believe children have a right to practice or not practice a religion of their choosing against the wishes of their parents and the government?”
How many Republicans would support the rights of a kid to tell their parents “I’m not going to a Christian charter school because it violates my religion. Send me to a public school instead?” I’m guessing pretty close to zero.
If a person is a fundamentalist Christian, then by definition, he or she believes that such a child risks ETERNAL punishment of the most severe kind. So, such a person would believe that allowing a child such freedom is WORSE than, say, allowing him or her the freedom to run out into traffic on a busy expressway.
That’s why these people are so frightening. They actually believe that if their child has homosexual thoughts, say, then he or she will be cast into a lake of fire FOREVER by a vicious, cruel, sadistic, brutish, pitiless, capricious, angry, pathological god. It’s impossible to express adequately how deranged this world view is.
I provided Spanish free-lance to various regional PreK’s 2001-2020. Montessori schools were pluralist: they celebrated as many holidays as they could get their hands on, including inviting any willing parents to share exploration of Hindu, Muslim or Buddhist traditions to expand their scope. The temple schools were obviously not OK with Halloween/ Christmas/ Easter, tho that was never a problem as there were harvest & spring-baby-animal themes that worked fine– and they loved that I brought in Ocho Kandelikahs for Chanukah. The schools long hosted by Protestant churches (but open to all) celebrated Christian holidays in a soft-pedaled way, preferring secular selections & glad to include Chanukah if you had the content onboard. The chain franchises often accepted tuition-subsidized students and had to follow state stds, but they don’t address the topic. These schools took the same approach as the Prot-hosted schools… So, the general approach ranges from somewhat to very inclusive.
I find Roy’s example of hisch’s Candlelight Christmas Concert surprising– candlelight Christmas singing is something I’ve enjoyed at Protestant churches on Christmas Eve, nowhere else. In my community, “Holiday” LONG ago replaced “Christmas,” at school and elsewhere. Those concerts include at minimum Chanukah songs, usually other ethnic traditions as well. Even my little old lady singing group that performs at nursing homes made that change over 30 yrs ago.
Bob notes, let’s get feedback from Hindu and Moslem parents: I agree. By 2020, every PreK class I taught had a few South Asian students. Diwali [Festival of Lights], week-long, falls between mid-Oct & mid-Nov, overlapping lead-up to Halloween or Thanksgiving. Ramadan moves backwards through the calendar a month every couple of years, often overlapping Christian and Jewish holidays, seems like another no-brainer.