Paul Waldman is an opinion columnist for The Washington Post. In this article, he criticizes Democrats for failing to stand up to Republican slanders and lies about public schools. He raises an important point: Why aren’t Democrats fighting Republican lies about the schools? Why aren’t the billionaires who claim to be liberal speaking out against this vicious campaign to destroy our public schools? One reason for the silence of the Democrats: Arne Duncan derided and insulted public schools and their teachers as often as Republicans.
Waldman wrote recently:
For the last year or so, Republicans have used the “issue” of education as a cudgel against Democrats, whipping up fear and anger to motivate their voters and seize power at all levels of government.
Isn’t it about time Democrats fought back?
Republicans have moved from hyping the boogeyman of critical race theory to taking practical steps to criminalize honest classroom discussions and ban books, turning their manufactured race and sex panic into profound political and educational change. Meanwhile, Democrats have done almost nothing about it, watching it all with a kind of paralyzed confusion.
Look no further than Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is pushing legislation with the colorful name of the Stop Woke Act. As the Republican governor told Fox News this weekend, we need to allow people to sue schools over their curriculums, not only because of CRT but also because “there’s a lot of other inappropriate content that can be smuggled in by public schools.”
If you liked the Texas bill that effectively banned abortion in the state, you’re in luck. Republicans apparently want to use a version of that bill’s tactic — putting enforcement in the hands of private vigilantes — to make teachers and school administrators live under the same fear as abortion providers.
It’s happening elsewhere, too. A bill in Indiana allows the same kind of lawsuits. And last week, during a hearing on the bill, a GOP state senator got in trouble for saying that “I believe that we’ve gone too far when we take a position” on things like Nazism, because in the classroom, “we need to be impartial.” The state senator, Scott Baldwin, previously attracted attention when it was revealed that he made a contribution to the far-right Oath Keepers (though he claims he has no real connection to the extremist group).
Everywhere you look, Republicans are trying to outdo one another with state laws forcing teachers to parrot far-right propaganda to students. A Republican bill in Oklahoma would ban teachers from saying that “one race is the unique oppressor” or “victim” when teaching the history of slavery in America; its sponsor says that would bring the appropriate “balance” to the subject.
So ask yourself: What are Democrats telling the public about schools? If you vote for Democrats, what are you supposed to be achieving on this issue? If any voters know, it would be a surprise.
We’re seeing another iteration of a common Republican strategy: Wait for some liberal somewhere to voice an idea that will sound too extreme to many voters if presented without context and in the most inflammatory way possible, inflate that idea way beyond its actual importance, claim it constitutes the entirety of the Democratic agenda and play on people’s fears to gin up a backlash.
That was the model on “defund the police.” Now it’s being used on schools, which Republicans have decided is the issue that can generate sufficient rage to bring victory at the polls.
Devoted as they are to facts and rational argumentation, liberals can’t help themselves from responding to Republican attacks first and foremost with refutation, which allows Republicans to set the terms of debate. So their response to the charge that critical race theory is infecting our schools is something like this: “No, no, that has nothing to do with public education. It’s a scholarly theory taught mostly to graduate students.”
But that doesn’t allow for this response: “Republicans want to subject our kids to fascist indoctrination. Why do they want to teach our kids that slavery wasn’t bad? Why are they trying to ban books? Who’s writing their education policy, David Duke? Don’t let them destroy your schools!”
That, of course, would be an unfair exaggeration of what most Republicans actually want. Is a state senator who worries that public school teachers might be biased against Nazism really representative of the whole Republican Party? Let’s try to be reasonable here.
Or maybe being reasonable isn’t the best place to start when you’re being overrun. Maybe Democrats need to begin not with a response to Republican lies about what happens in the classroom, but an attack on what Republicans are trying to do to American education.
After Glenn Youngkin won the Virginia governorship with a campaign largely focused on schools, Republicans everywhere decided that nurturing a CRT-based White backlash is the path to victory. That is their plan, whether Democrats like it or not.
This isn’t just coming from national Republicans. At the state and local level, far-right extremists are taking over education policy, leaving teachers terrified that if they communicate the wrong idea to students — like, apparently, being too critical of Nazis — they might get sued.
The implications of the GOP war on schools and teachers are horrifying, and with some exceptions, Democrats are watching it happen without anything resembling a plan to do anything about it. It might be time for all the party’s clever strategists to give it some thought.
Democrats won’t fight back. They, like Republicans, have too much money to lo$e. Kill the USDoEd and the Hydra will finally be able to be slain. Nothing will happen until the Federal Gov’t gets out of the busine$$ of education.
Teachers are too stunned and confused to speak up. Every teacher should empty their drawers of saved student and parent notes thanking them for all they do. Proof that public schools do an amazing job every single day.
Well said, Theresa!!!!
Stunned, confused and exhausted.
I struggle with the phrase, “When will Democrats fight back”? To me, it should be, “When will the American People, Parents, Grand Parents and people who care about the education of children fight back?” The GOP has created the term “Democrats” as a “fighting term” e.g. they evoke it and their people go wild, and it no longer becomes the “issue” but rather fighting democrats. “Democrats do not care about opening schools”. That is a statement that easily incites a political attitude. However, for the GOP to say, “Parents do not care about opening schools” is not only a stupid statement but won’t win them any points. In my state, Betsy Devos and her GOP congress people she has “purchased through political contributions”, have controlled legislature that has neutered the State School Board and Local School Boards. Money for educating children was moved in 1994 under the control of the State Legislature and the State Legislature via Michigan’s Constitution has the responsibility to run schools. “He who has the Gold Makes the rules”, so the Michigan Legislature which has total control of schools in Michigan. In doing this move of control, Parents have a impossible time accessing or inputing anything regarding the education of their children. When they raise a concern, they have to contact their local representative who may or may not listen to them. They cannot directly contact the House Chairperson of the Committee for Elementary and Secondary Education unless they live in their district. Thus, the politicians have totally eliminated Parental input into their children’s schools. The GOP has controlled Michigan Schools for 25 years. Michigan’s schools keep going down and down and down and the GOP Legislature does nothing about it except more Schools of Choice and More Charter Schools.
Thank you for adding the comment- it provides insight.
Well, thanks to reading the articles and comments on this blog I pretty much know the answer to question you pose.
The silence from Democratic “ed reformers” has really been defeaning.
I think ed reform is an echo chamber and they don’t break ranks. It’s really that simple. One can go right now to any ed reform org or think tank or university aligned ed reform “department” and see this- they simply do not criticize other ed reformers or ANY ed reform initiatives. There will be article after article criticizing public schools and nothing other than full throated support for charter schools and vouchers. It doesn’t matter if a given area is 50% charters- the sole critical focus will be on public schools.
We just saw this in action. They spent months insisting schools were closed due to labor unions. The fact that more charters were remote didn’t affect this at all. Now, I don’t know why more charters were remote- maybe charter parents supported that, but if more of the anti union schools are remote, “remote” probably isn’t due to labor unions.
I could absolutely be wrong- I am not after all a political professional like many ed reformers- but I continue to believe there is an opening for a political party that values public schools and public school students. Someone should try that. The current situation, where the schools that 90% of children attend have no advocates or supporters in government because both Democrats and Republicans have entered this rigid “reform” echo chamber that is anti-public school, is ludicrous.
“They spent months insisting schools were closed due to labor unions. The fact that more charters were remote didn’t affect this at all.”
The problem here is media coverage. I don’t see Dem pols doing much with that factoid; the teachers unions have promoted keeping schools safely open. But that charter chains have been if anything stricter on safety protocols– that private schools even have vax reqts—that parochial schools are often teaching 20-30% (on demand) remotely– these things are either not mentioned at all or not emphasized in MSM articles. I’ve learned the info from the comment thread where people report what’s happening right in their own neighborhoods.
Yet even with WaPo articles that report charter closures right alongside pubsch closures, there are always DC-region commenters claiming that all the charters and parochials have been fully in-person since the beginning of the pandemic. Those people apparently osmose Faux-TV “facts” and can’t hear anything else.
Those people are well organized.
I think it boils down to the libertarians’ money, Gates et al, used to co-opt spin tanks, politicians, lobbyists, other “philanthropies,” media, etc.
The Democratic Party needs to start running ads to educate voters on these issues. And the teachers’ unions need to take them to the streets. There have been positive signs lately of parents turning out to school board meetings to protest against book burning and insistence by Repugnicans on the teaching of whitewashed history. More, more, more of this. So, the Democratic Party also has to take a lesson from Repugnicans and organize parents for counterprotest.
Amen !
Randi should have been working against CAP instead of with them.
And some of it is horsetrading, right? We’ve seen this before. They may or may not support private school vouchers but they will happily accept vouchers if they get a huge expansion in charters.
The only schools and students left out of this wheeling and dealing? Public schools. There’s not even an effort to offer them anything positive. They take public schools and public school supporters for granted. They labeled all of us early on as “the status quo” and “self interested” and they haven’t lifted a finger for our schools or students since.
They defined all public school advocacy as “bad” and all charter and voucher advocacy as “good”. That this is demonstrably untrue in a state like mine, where the statehouse is flooded with people pushing charters and vouchers for all kinds of reasons, doesn’t matter at all. Public= bad, privatized = good.
Charters and vouchers don’t have “lobbyists” in this imaginary world- only the evil teachers unions have lobbyists. Charter and voucher interests cannot be “self interested”. That smear is exclusively reserved for people who advocate on behalf of public schools.
a key point: they will take whatever is offered so long as it allows them to continue pushing charters
Actually my response to Bob yesterday on this very topic went to moderation. as did the first try on this one.
The most depressing thing about Wednesday was not that voting rights went down the drain,not that filibusterer reform went down the drain. I expected both. The most depressing thing was the performance that Biden gave at the Press Conference.
I happen to believe that his first year was actually a stunning success. I believe that Afghanistan was handled relatively well given the circumstances. I believe that those who remain unvaccinated are the problem not Biden’s handling of the Pandemic . While 37% of Americans remain unvaccinated near 50% of Italy has gotten a booster. You can not fix stupid.
The economy is improving nicely, in spite of inflation. Inflation having far more to do with the Pandemic, than any SMALL STIMULUS that went directly to the American people. A 2.6 trillion dollar shift in consumer spending away from services like travel and leisure and into products, far outweighs the 1.6 trillion in total stimulus given to’ individuals’. Especially when lost income has to be subtracted from the amount given to individuals, in order to see the actual economic impact.
That said his performance was a disaster. Now it may be far more important how a President handles the tasks of being President. Who he appoints to Government positions and what policies he pursues. More important then how he preforms at a press conference. But there are moments in these Public appearances to use the bully pulpit. As well as moments that shape public perception . No one will forget “bleach and ultra violet lights.”
When he was asked about schools and suburban moms that was the perfect opportunity to go on offense. That was the time to say .
” I am concerned for the vast majority of suburban , urban and rural moms whose children are being assaulted by right wing Governors and Legislatures pushing an anti vaxx ,anti mask message to prolong this virus, to impact the economy, and for political gain. Doing so by putting those children their families and their neighbors at risk”
Could have said.
“I am concerned about the assault on our Public Schools by right wing thugs and AstroTurf groups paid for by anti American Oligarch Billionaires. Concerned with Proud Boys and racist White Nationalists showing up at school boards encouraging figurative book burning’s and intimating educators”
I may not like James Carville much but he nailed it when he said. “You need a story teller and every good story needs a villain” The story is real, the villains are real, the story teller is incapable of telling the story.
intimidating educators the correction will probably post before the comment does.
Excellent points.
I love this message. Joel, thank you for this excellent post.
Although I still have doubts that it would work, since I believe that the media would have ignored it and reported whatever right wing narrative their coveted right wing sources wanted them to.
Had Biden made that speech, the so-called liberal media like the NYT would have run headlines like: “Biden blames right wing billionaires for all his failings” or “Parents in suburban and rural schools throughout America very angry at Biden for calling them “racist white nationalists – will those angry parents punish the democrats at the polls for dismissing them and insulting them as racist white nationalists? More reporting every day on this topic about how Biden has angered all suburban and rural parents by calling them racist white nationalists when those parents just care about their kids well-being”.
But I absolutely agree with you that Biden needs a better message.
But we also need to put pressure on the so-called liberal media to ignore it and only report using the Republican framing.
^^correction to confusing last line, should read: “we also need to put pressure on the so-called liberal media NOT to ignore Biden’s message and pressure on the so-called liberal media to stop reporting using the Republican framing.”
We really need a Jon Stewart to publicly humiliate the sycophantic “liberal” reporters acting like Ted Cruz in abasing themselves to please the far right and empower the far right agenda by proving they are “fair and balanced”.
NYC public school parent
If you read Progressive economist Dean Baker , you will know that his blog long before Trump was named “Beat the Press” . The press is not liberal and never has been .
Upton Sinclair wrote “The Brass Check ” in 1918. So critical of the Press (media) that no one would publish it . The Brass Check was a coin you gave to Prostitutes to prove you paid the tab downstairs. Placing “so called” in front of liberal does not do justice. It is the corporate media and it should have been clear since the summer that Biden had to be taken down a few notches to serve those selling the Brass check.
Democrats cannot continue to lead from behind. They need to deliver what the voters want including well funded public education. Black voters are no longer giving Biden the benefit of the doubt. Democrats have spent far too much time “sitting back and assessing.” Voters want results, and a “communication campaign” is no substitute for progress that can only be achieved through passing voting rights.
I agree that passing voting rights is absolutely imperative.
Which means that every person who supports voting rights needs to make sure that voters in America understand that the ONLY way to pass voting rights it to defeat every Republican Senator running for re-election.
It’s actually a simple message. The only way to get any progressive legislation is to defeat Republicans.
Every time the Democrats had a huge majority, good progressive legislation happened. Every time the Republicans were empowered to block things, bad legislation happened.
As the January 6th Committee looks into the attempt by the Trump administration to overturn the 2020 election by getting states to ignore the actual votes cast and substitute appointed, pro-Trump electors, it must be remembered that even after the attempted insurrection to disrupt the certification of the nation’s vote, 147 Republican Senators and Congresspeople joined in this TREASON by voting not to certify election results. This was a planned, coordinated attempt, involving Trump, top administration officials, Trump lawyers, outside consultants, AND Republican Congresspeople and Senators, to overthrow an American election.
An attempted coup
Bannon, on his War Room podcast: “Take your No. 2 pencils out. We’re going to decertify, I didn’t say we were going to certify Trump electors, but we’re going to decertify Biden electors in Arizona, in Wisconsin, in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and in the great state of Georgia.”
Stephen Miller, on Fox News, after the election, in December: “As we speak, today, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we’re going to send those results up to Congress,” he continued. “This will ensure that all of our legal remedies remain open. That means that if we win these cases in the courts, that we can direct that the alternate state of electors be certified.”
This slow moving coup is how we can lose democracy through legal manipulation and complicit corrupt behavior unless we have a law that can stop it. Unfortunately, many Democrats seem unfazed by the urgency and far reaching implications of the problem.
Will the DOJ show the spine actually to bring conspiracy and sedition charges against the perpetrators of this? That’s a BIG one.
If nothing comes from the Jan 6h committee, frustrated voters will have another reason to not to show up at the polls in the midterms.
Bob Shepherd
Will the DOJ show the spine actually to bring conspiracy and sedition charges against the perpetrators of this?
No .
When will democrats fight back?
After Flerp, D77, or (fill in) is
“straightened out”.
After “45” is called enough names,
smeared, defined, sliced and diced.
After the “rooskies” are blamed for
everything under the sum.
After a great book is read.
After a great article is read.
After a brilliant argument is made.
After the jabless get jabbed.
After the maskless get masked.
After the “choice” school echo
chamber is exposed.
After the “founding fathers”
thoughts are revealed.
After the voters are blamed.
After the blind can see.
After the deaf can hear.
NoBrick, in a democratic state–heck, in any state–it is precisely the sort of foment that you deride that can make a difference.
And negative social sanction is a powerful tool for positive change.
Yup remember when Clinton was castigated and then apologized for declaring a basket of deplorables. The original statement actually wrongly justified their vile odor as government and society letting these people down.
It is the whole basket that reeks from excrement. And it has gotten stinkier every day we try to cover it up with perfume.
Interesting to remember Clinton’s “basket of deplorables.” Interesting to recall how Republicans and the media savaged her for using such derogatory language. Shocking! Yet Trump’s insults were so frequent and so vulgar that no one cared. Double standard?
Joel,
Time has shown that she was absolutely right. And we knew it at the time but no one would defend it.
NYC public school parent
Why should anyone defend it when Clinton didn’t defend it. She could have responded I said 1/2 the basket I might have been wrong . It was most of the basket.
And messiness comes with the territory in a democracy.
When will the Democrats fight back against CRT?
When will the Democrats stop using identity politics, which turns off all those white voters?
When will the Democrats stop being so woke, which turns off all those white voters?
When will the Democrats become neo-Nazis and stop turning off those white voters?
You essentially just called NYC PSP a nazi. May not your intention but it’s how I read it. That’s a problem and unhelpful. Then again, I’m new here.
You misunderstood. I was echoing NYCPSP’s satirical comment, putting what NYCPSP said in a short, pithy statement meant to express an absurdity, by NYCPSP and by me. Is that clear?
In other words, I was agreeing with NYCPSP, echoing NYCPSP’s satirical statement in a shorter form.
A few decades ago probably starting in the 1960s around the time of the Civil Rights movement, the autocratic, racist, libertarian’s anarchists and/or kleptocrats (think Walton, Gates, ALEC, the Koch network, et al.) started an underground war to infiltrate both political parties. It is apparent to me that they were more successful taking over the Republican Party than the Democrats … BUT, these cutthroat capitalist vampires still managed to get their foot and a leg through the blue door thanks to the neoliberals that stayed in the Democratic Party during the exodus that started with Nixon and/or Regan where most hardcore racists left the Democrats to become Republicans in the 1980s.
That faction in the Democratic Party still has enough power to silence or drown out an voices that do not fall into line. And according to an opinion piece in the New York Times, Obama’s biggest ideas were neoliberal.
It’s no secret that the candidate who spends the most money usually wins. Where does that money come from?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/money-and-elections-a-complicated-love-story/
Agree about the infiltration- adding, money is a powerful motivator for traitors to rationalize the destruction that they cause. Also, there are those among the richest 400 families who don’t rationalize and just write checks for services rendered. And, there are those without conscience who cash the checks in employ to the bureaucracies within the corrupt spin tanks and K-Street.
Yet, LBJ was able to get his ducks in a row to get voting rights passed. I agree the Republicans are more tribal and radical today, but it just seems so pathetic that two Democrats are holding the whole Democratic party hostage despite the widespread support for voting rights legislation among voters.
cx: civil rights not voting rights
Don’t forget that LBJ was elected with a large majority of Democrats in the Senate and House. He could pass whatever he proposed. Biden has to hold onto every Democratic vote in the Senate. One defector (and he has two) sinks whatever he proposes.
retired teacher,
How is “math” pathetic?
Voters can PROVE there is widespread support for voting rights legislation for actually voting for the party who clearly supports it 100% instead of the party that does not.
Because aside from supporting Bernie Sanders being powerful chair of the Budget Committee (which Sinema and Manchin do), I am quite sure that both of them would vote yes on that legislation if it were put up for a vote.
They may be able to hide behind the filibuster, but the reason they are Democrats is because they belong to a party where it would be IMPOSSIBLE to oppose voting rights legislation if it were put up for a vote.
Republicans don’t have that problem. They are rewarded for opposing voting rights legislation and most would have no qualms about voting no.
Give Democrats a big majority and you will find that once they don’t have the filibuster to hide behind, the voting rights legislation will easily pass.
If only an LBJ were around to deal with Mitch. Also LBJ didn’t have to deal with a cult.
GregB,
Also, look at the history! Look at what LBJ had to work with!
After the 1964 election, the Democrats had 68 Senate seats!
68 seats! And that’s after a Republican defeated a Democrat for the Senate seat in California! Of all places.
The House of Representatives after the 1964 election:
Democrats had 295 seats! Republicans had 140 seats.
If progressives want LBJ type legislation, they should be fighting for an LBJ-type democratic majority.
But instead a few of them blame Biden because he isn’t doing with a 50-50 majority what LBJ did with a 68-32 majority.
LBJ didn’t have to worry about the filibuster. He had 68 Senators in his party!
Even if all those 68 Democratic Senators didn’t agree with all of LBJ’s legislative priorities, they did not join the Republicans to block votes on everything.
It is shocking that the amplified message is that Biden isn’t as good as LBJ at managing the Senate, when the message should be to soundly defeat every Republican so Biden can do what LBJ did.
Not so sure, Greg. LBJ had to deal with the Dixiecrats, and they certainly were a cult.
Republicans today are basically a continuation of the post civil war Southern Democrat. Autocratic to the core and just as corrupt. Heather Cox Richardson has it right with her book about the South winning the war. Now we have rural western states and mid-western states on the band wagon. This is no longer a petulant regional diatribe, but a cancer that continues to spread throughout the country. Keeping the populace ignorant is at the core of the political strategy.
“I love the uneducated,” said no-filter Donald Trump.
Never!
You mean to say that primary education will get even worse??? It is high time America to open your eyes wide open: your country is falling apart.
Falling apart, as Putin plotted? And, libertarians funded?
Yes, there is much toasting in the Kremlin right now. Vlad’s investment in his Agent Orange paid off handsomely.
The sky is falling go hide under your bed. Most parents think their children’s education is fine. 76% on average in the last 20years are satisfied. As recent as 2019 it was 82% satisfied, education has not changed,politics has.
I have a big problem with education here on Long Island . It isn’t that we pay teachers too much . 7 out of 40 Regeneron Science finalists come from Long Island Public Schools . With less than 1 /100th the population of the country that is unfair to America . Of course my complaint is a straw man and is easily disassembled. Yours is nonsense.
“Its America love it or leave it”
The interesting thing about the attack on education is that it parallels the historical attack on educated people in general. The United States has never elected well-educated smart people. Adlai Stephenson lost to war hero and avunclar Eisenhower. Old Hickory could not match the brilliance and qualification of John Quincy Adams.
Defending the concept of public schools will not win the day. Democrats need candidates who will appeal to the great mass of voters. They should defend the individual school. They should accuse the Republicans of trying to destroy your school. They should say that the republicans will not stop until your child cannot attend the school you went to, which is the goal.
Exactly right. Dems need to stop taking the freaking high road off the cliff.
Bob-
Perfectly stated.
I don’t know how I missed this. Recently I posted the testimony of the police officers at the Jan 6 hearing. Later that day, Rep. Raskin demonstrated quite nicely what you write.
Here’s what motivated my comment: one of Joe Biden’s strengths as a politician has long been his ability to work across the aisle. He has stressed throughout his campaign and the first year of his presidency the importance of “working together” and of consensus. I applaud the intention. However, a year after various traitorous attempts to overthrow an American election, those responsible for planning and coordinating this–Trump himself and many of those closest to him–have not been indicted for this. The Teflon Don 2.0 continues to get away with it. I am concerned that the Garland DOJ is not moving aggressively enough to put the Trump criminals in prison.
The one thing that give me pause is this: It looks as though the luster of He Who Shines More Orange Than Does the Sun is fading. If he runs in 2024, he is likely to lose again, but by an even greater margin this time. That would be a great thing.
Of course, if that were to happen, we’ll see The Big Lie 2.0, but that I suspect we’ll be able to deal with.
GregB – thank you for that clip. So impressed with Rep. Raskin refusal to be manipulated.
Indeed!!!!
“Destroy the school”. Destroy your child might work better . Andrew Sullivan once accused Bernie Sanders of being a demagogue. He was right and I am fine with that. Pity the poor oligarch .
“Demagoguery in defense of Democracy is no vice. Moderation in exchange for fascism is no virtue.” (no intellectual property rights on that)
Well said, Joel!!!!
I am old enough to remember a lot of far right folks angry because the mainstream Republican party wasn’t “fighting back” against “liberal” stuff like Medicare and Social Security and allowing people who aren’t right can vote.
I am old enough to remember a lot of far right folks angry because the mainstream Republican party wasn’t “fighting” to make prayer in public schools mandatory, and vouchers mandatory and fighting to “protect the rights” of communities to segregate their public schools if they wanted to.
I wish those people had the mainstream media helping to amplify their lies about how liberal and radical and secretly socialist the Republican party was.
Instead the people who wanted the Republican party to change understood that amplifying the voices of the far right to destroy the Republican party and empower democrats was not the answer.
The answer was to keep empowering the Republican party more and more. The answer was to pressure the Republican party to turn right WITHOUT demonizing it.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez understands the difference.
In 2006, Republican Senators McConnell and Grassley were SUPPORTERS of the Voting Rights reauthorization.
Now Republican Susan Collins joins them in stopping passage of even the most moderate legislation that the far right doesn’t like.
The Republicans never demonized their own party the way the democrats do.
I agree that the democrats’ support of education has been awful, but the silence has come from progressives and moderate democrats. The ONLY Democrats who were loudly standing up for public education were the supposedly “too conservative” Virginia Governors Ralph Northam and Terry McAuliffe, and the progressives wanted to replace them with a progressive who was the DFER politician of the month and was rabidly pro-charter!
I wish progressives would follow the AOC playbook — stand up for what you believe in, put pressure on Democrats, but don’t amplify the dishonest propaganda that disempowers and demonizes the democrats and empowers the Republicans.
Too many times on this blog I have seen good folks who blame this on the Democrats being too woke or too concerned with CRT. Democrats run away from public education because if they strongly support public education and they lose an election – which is what happened in Virginia – the one amplified false “truth” is that the Democrat’s stance on public education was to blame.
When was there a mainstream Republican Party. You are falling into the trap that the base has driven that party to the right. Or the right has taken over. 1964, I am old enough to remember that Barry Goldwater was a racist who played on the racial fears of Americans back in1964 . No matter how we try to spray deodorant on his career. Cloaking his objection to Civil Rights in the mantra of government over reach. While he blazed through the South.. Rockefeller was booed off the stage in 64 .
Yup. Exactly so.
Joel,
That’s my point. The mainstream Republican party was driven to the right. The right wing did not start a 3rd party and demonize “Republican” as meaning “pro-commie, pro-abortion, anti-religion”.
The Republican party – at worst – was characterized as being too pro-business back then, but there wasn’t a far right effort to make everyone on the right hate Republicans and work to defeat them even if the Democrats were empowered.
The far right took over by demonizing DEMOCRATS, not Republicans.
Progressives seem to think if they keep demonizing Democrats, they will win. That plays right into the right wing’s hands and our country keeps going backward and backward.
AOC gets it. You don’t demonize Democrats. You make sure people know how reprehensible the Republican party is and work to elect the most progressive democrats possible.
The irony is that there are more progressive Democrats in elected office than ever before, but the right wing knows that they can always win by convincing progressive voters that they are being sold out.
That’s why Republicans pay no price for being obstructionist! Because they know that the voters who want change will always blame the Democrats and the media will amplify and legitimize that narrative.
NYC public school parent
“The irony is that there are more progressive Democrats in elected office than ever before,”
The real irony is that those progressives now represent a substantial majority of the party 99 members in the House Progressive Caucus. Policy wise a far greater number with those that are “scarded “by the label . Yet they are demonized as out of the mainstream.
One of those “moderates ” is running to be your Governor.
I was wondering how many of those so called progressives are thinking about public education today? I can only come up with Jamaal Bowman so far.
AOC and the Squad seem to be more interested in remaining loyal to Nanci Pelosi and Chuck Schumer on whatever agendas they may like.
And speaking of Democrats, here’s the question that should be asked:
Q: Who are controlling their party identity and platform today? Elite, corporate donors, or grass-root, locally-elected public officials?
Jaime Harrison, DNC chair, supports public education.
CAP, on the other hand, presents a formidable challenge to progressives.
It would help if, for example, the next time there’s a story about how teachers are required to attend a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion session that displays PowerPoints about how “white supremacy culture” consists of things like “perfectionism,” “worship of the written word,” and “objectivity,” Democrats loudly and clearly objected to such nonsense.
How many hours do they do this. If they in fact do it at all. Get back to us with some numbers.
If my experience in private industry as a supervisor is any indicator . Of the 10,000 hours I was employed in my last 4 years ending in 16 (I worked ungodly overtime) . There was one 3 hr diversity training session. And an 8hr session whose attendance was voluntary sponsored by the union for all members and supervisors.
Yup 3 hrs sure going to have an impact !!!!!
Or Democrats can respond with something like your response. Good luck with that.
I asked you for some numbers and you came up with ?
Flerp, there are almost 7 million teachers in the U.S. and lord knows how many administrators. Not going to take the time right now to look that up. It’s always possible to find some idiot somewhere to hold up as somehow representative.
Most diversity training is an attempt to mask inaction by pretending to do something. In the case of private industry it is an attempt to get a get out of jail free card in potential law suits. IMHO .
Exactly. It’s checking of an item on a list, a time for teachers to grade papers and zone out.
Limbaugh perfected the scam- anecdotes are true of the whole.
Reagan’s imaginary Cadillac-driving welfare queen
Bob says “Reagan’s imaginary Cadillac-driving welfare queen”
Exactly.
Back then, there were people just as disingenuous as flerp who kept blaming Democrats because “why aren’t Democrats loudly criticizing all those welfare queens driving cadillacs?”
If the internet had existed back then, people like flerp would be posting links to some right wing twitter feed with a photo of a “welfare queen” and demanding that democrats join the Republicans in attacking these very dangerous people who are ruining this country.
You might recall that before there were calls to denounce “dangerous power point slides”, there were demands that the Democrats denounce Black Lives Matter.
Now the right wingers don’t mention BLM because too many young people went out and marched and changed the narrative.
Now the propagandists make power-point slides the thing to fear and blame democrats for not denouncing them.
The people that democrats – and the so-called liberal media – should be denouncing are those who amplify right wing propaganda.
Jon Stewart used to be so good at that — in a few clips could show them as the right wing sycophants they were.
I don’t think you can make the leap from Flerp’s being horrified by someone saying that “objectivity” and “worship of the written word” are “white values”–claims that are clearly idiotic–to support for Reagan’s use of this fabricated, false, despicable racist stereotype. That’s a bit much, don’t you think? And the right is still denouncing BLM. Just last week, several prominent Republican politicians made comments about how BLM was far worse than the Jan. 6th episode, which, according to them, was just “tourism.” LOL.
A violent breach of the Capitol resulting in people dead, involving calls to hang the Vice President simply for doing his duty, with the purpose of keeping the results of an election from being certified.
Tourism.
If that was tourism, then the Cultural Revolution was just channel surfing.
Bob,
Every time you defend flerp’s posting of right wing propaganda, you convince me of how dangerous a time we are in. I wonder why you keep bending over backward to give flerp the benefit of the doubt the way the media always bends over backward to give right wing Republicans the benefit of the doubt. I wonder what it will take until you realize how much you are legitimizing it and presenting the same false “both sides” reality we see so often in the news media.
flerp is posting right wing propaganda. How many times in the last year has flerp linked to right wing twitter feeds whose intention is to rile up white folks about dangers that do not exist? To get folks to hate perfectly nice educators by mischaracterizing what they are doing?
How many times in the last few months has flerp quoted from this single power point slide that just happens to be the same one invoked on all sorts of right wing sites? The same single power point slide from some obscure diversity presentation that I assume 99% of educators never saw.
flerp has written numerous comments here invoking that same power point slide – quoting the same words from it — just like the Republicans cited the same “welfare queens driving cadillacs” during the Reagan years. It isn’t an argument. It is a demand to denounce something that barely registers because by denouncing it you are legitimizing the racist innuendo that is their real intention. I am a parent and I don’t fear my white kid is going to be taught to hate themself because their teacher happened to be in a diversity training class that included that one slide. A power point slide from some obscure training that 99% of educators never saw is used to attack diversity and equity ideas just like the “cadillac-driving welfare queen” is used to attack welfare.
Bob, that power point and cadillac driving welfare queen are myths. No doubt there is a stupid power point slide somewhere and there was some welfare recipient somewhere who owned a cadillac. So what? Ask yourself why flerp demands they be denounced the way that 1980s Republicans demanded that Democrats join Republicans in denouncing “cadillac-driving welfare queens”.
It’s all about helping them with their false framing.
You have to admit that Republicans were absolutely correct that welfare queens driving cadillacs was a bad thing, right Bob? I hope you aren’t like those “libs” who support having welfare queens drive cadillacs and wouldn’t join Republicans in condemning them. Are you going to condemn those cadillac-driving welfare queens or not, Bob?
That’s the conversation the flerp wants you to have. Framing it so that either you loudly condemn this terrible diversity training that is supposedly victimizing huge swaths of white children, or you clearly want white children to be victimized by white racism just like the democrats do.
How many different times will flerp invoke that one power point slide that has been held up by the right wing media as clear evidence of some extreme danger? flerp was invoking that months ago and he has invoked it multiple times. Just like the Republicans invoked the cadillac-driving welfare queen.
Does it matter if it is true?
flerp is like Bari Weiss. Bari Weiss famously uses a single example of some harmless idiocy to mislead and sow anger and fear and demand that others join her in condemning this horrible thing or they are guilty of wanting to hurt white children.
Bari Weiss went after a favorite “enemy” of the far right — a supposedly “woke” LA private school. Bari Weiss invoked examples the way flerp invoked that power point to convince her readers of a lie. And I have posted elsewhere that a conservative white student at that school knew that it was misinformation.
Bob, I just hope you someday realize that what flerp posts is misinformation that is about as relevant to the discussion as invoking welfare queens driving cadillacs is relevant to a discussion about welfare. When those examples are invoked, it should tell you what that person’s real agenda is.
Yeah, in today’s meme-y world, one egregious piece gets amplified millions of times. Definitely a problem. I think that Flerp and I are very far apart on diversity issues and masks and school closings and lots of things, but I also think that I can argue with Flerp straight up. Is this a private fight, or can anybody join in?
You are dead on about those diversity trainings. A nonissue. I wish they were as effective as the rightwing imagines them to be. Preaching to the choir. Like the “training” I used to go to that would reveal such startling information as, Blook can carry pathogens! Kids sometimes bully people! Kids can be pressured to join gangs! Grass is green. The sky is blue. Cotton candy is sweet.
Thank you, Bob. You model civility. No one (the former guy and his toadies excluded) is all bad. Find common ground, wherever possible.
Typically, anyone who actually needs what is presented in one of these diversity trainings is going to be at all changed. Alas. Though I can see some value in taking time to affirm an institutional commitment to this. Some value there.
I think you forgot the NOT. Anyone who really needs diversity training is unlikely to be changed. Just resentful.
Yes. Hasty typing. Thanks for the correction, Diane!
cx: no one who actually needs
cx: Blood can carry pathogens.
NYC PSP,
You really should tone down your comments about FLERP. Civility is a cardinal principle of this blog, though I’m not always good at enforcing it. I don’t want to stifle free expression, but I see no value in the vendetta. Please do not direct your comments to him or about him.
How could someone have a conversation with someone who keeps invoking cadillac-driving welfare queens over and over again? Where do you think that came from? The right wing propaganda arm found an example of some welfare cheat somewhere driving a nice car and invoked that “cadillac-driving welfare queen” over and over and over again until the public was convinced this was a very real problem.
If you tried to have a discussion with someone who demanded that Democrats denounce cadillac-driving welfare queens, do you think they want a discussion? They just want to push the false narrative that “cadillac-driving welfare queens” are an enormous problem that has not yet been addressed by the Democratic party. They want to frame that discussion as “what’s wrong with the Democrats that they refuse to denounce cadillac-driving welfare queens?”
They would say to you: “It would help if, for example, the next time there’s a story about how some welfare queen is driving a cadillac or owns anything too nice, Democrats loudly and clearly condemned it.”
It’s all about getting you to legitimize their false narrative. That there is something that’s dangerous to our way of life that Democrats won’t condemn – it’s a cadillac-driving welfare queen or a single power point slide or Willie Horton. It’s amazing that Republicans can support a violent attempt to end democracy, but the real problem is Democrats not objecting to an obscure power point – according to flerp and the far right ideologues whose talking points flerp posts over and over and over in his comments.
‘It would help if, for example the next time there’s a story about how teachers are required to attend a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion session that displays PowerPoints about how “white supremacy culture” consists of things like “perfectionism,” “worship of the written word,” and “objectivity,” Democrats loudly and clearly objected to such nonsense.”
Only one side plays this game – and it is a game. One side demands that the Democrats legitimize their false narrative – in which a single power point slide is held up as some grave danger to white children.
Even conservative students recognize that Bari Weiss and flerp aren’t arguing in good faith. They are invoking some random, unimportant example that the far right has elevated into some serious danger. It could be a power point slide. It could be a cadillac driving welfare queen. It could be Willie Horton.
When you concede their point “welfare queens driving cadillacs are very bad. A Power Point is very bad. Willie Horton is very bad”, you are doing exactly what they want, which is demonizing Democrats for not “condemning” these very bad things more.
Meanwhile a slow coup takes over democracy, and these disingenuous folks got you scapegoating a power point slide.
Sometimes you have to accept that there are times when you can’t persuade the other person. Sometimes you have to realize that the other person is baiting you. Don’t take the bait.
Diane Ravitch,
I wrote the above post before I saw your comment.
If you think that it is okay to let propaganda stand and criticize me for calling it out, then I am fine to leave.
I see flerp’s posts as no different than someone like Campbell Brown, invoking the same tired examples of a union teacher sexually abusing a student or a union teacher doing something else bad that you find on right wing websites. flerp invokes the same examples over and over again.
If you want to have a discussion with flerp about whether the democrats are condemning a power point enough, or whether the democrats are condemning union teachers who sexually abuse children enough, I am in the wrong place anyway.
I feel like a Cassandra, but I see how dangerous it is when people spewing right wing talking points are treated as very serious and their critics are attacked for being too mean to them.
I don’t see any difference between flerp and Campbell Brown.
But I will leave. Surely public education is stronger when the “honest” voices of people like flerp are amplified and legitimized and I certainly can understand why my presence will make that harder to do.
NYCPSP, I want you to know that I appreciate the intensity of your feelings about the state of race relations in America. You and I probably aren’t far apart about this. I’m an old guy. I thought, when I was a kid, we were going to be a lot further along on a path toward progress than we are, and I, too, am sickened that that isn’t the case. I, too, am angry and worried for my adopted children of color, for my friends and neighbors who are POC, because I don’t like what I see coming. Not at all, at all. But I do have a suggestion. If Flerp makes a comment about a Powerpoint slide somewhere, make the point about that slide, about why it’s a terrible example, about why it isn’t indicative, about how it’s become an overblown Internet meme that falsifies, but don’t put words in Flerp’s mouth and attribute to Flerp things he or she (I don’t know which it is) didn’t say. The welfare queen bit was flat-out racism, like Reagan’s opening his Presidential run with a speech about state’s rights, which was code in those days, for opposition to busing, desegregation, and affirmative action. We need to figure out how we can talk to one another while maintaining our principles, our shape. That’s not easy. Democracy is messy. But as Diane can detail for folks wise enough to listen to her, the Left has spent far too much time and energy, for far too long, in Europe and the United States, in these internecine arguments. Heck, Marx himself could barely get anything done. He was constantly distracted from writing Kapital because he would get off on a tangent, spending weeks and weeks attacking a perceived opponent. If it weren’t for Engels’s intervention, he would never have finished it.
NYCPSP,
I don’t want you to leave. I don’t want to lose your clear, sharp voice. I ask that you tone down the rhetoric.
NYC-
Your resilience after criticism is part of what encouraged me to continue to comment. I learn from what you write. Your elucidation skills far surpass mine.
It is unfortunate that the last word in a discussion has import. Far more times than I have liked, I have refrained from a response with the thought, our blog host reads ALL comments and it must be a Herculean effort.
It would be advantageous if there was a way to tag a comment like this one that is intended only for you, or, ones that are only for Flerp, etc., in a way that meant there was no intent for it to be added to a stack of “to do’s” for Dr. Ravitch.
Linda, thank you.
dianeravitch
However Flerp has made some assertions. I have asked him many times to put some numbers into those assertions . How much of Local School budgets is spent on diversity training a number or percentage.
How many hours of a teachers time is diverted to these programs. How much classroom time to racial inequality or even actual history. I suspect if those numbers were shown ,it would be laughable.
I also suspect that the districts that need it the most are the districts with the fewest hours or resources devoted to these issues and the loudest complaints about these issues.
I’ve often wondered about why the many, many “trainings” I sat through as a teacher were so bad–why they were filled with the obvious (Blood can carry pathogens; bullying and racism are bad). It comes back to, I think, the wresting of control from teachers and individual schools and the placement of this in the hands of bureaucrats with checklists. My thinking about this runs as follows: The district, state, and federal bureaucracies have legitimate functions: allocating funds, negotiating contracts, ensuring that legal requirements are met. But these districts are swimming, barely, in bureaucratic treacle. No wonder the “trainings” are so awful.
“I’m concerned for millions of other students who have lost years of their development. Absolutely zero shits given by anyone here, though.”
That’s a direct quote from one of flerp’s comments on a different post where flerp was condemning a city for not keeping schools open when covid cases were dangerously high and attacking everyone here for not agreeing with him. But sure, my tone isn’t good enough.
I salute Joel for noticing.
Republicans fawn over Manchin and Sinema not because Manchin and Sinema actually agree with their policies. It is because Manchin and Sinema give them legitimacy by being respectful and calling out other democrats for being too mean.
One side attacks another for not caring about kids, or not caring about a power point, or not caring about welfare queens driving cadillacs and the other side gets criticized for their tone in replying to them.
Linda, thank you for your exceptionally kind words.
Thank you Diane and Bob.
I read and am enlightened by so many of the insightful and brilliant comments by you and many others on this blog — some of whom I don’t agree with but respect very much.
When I see this blog being debased by lies or the posting of right wing propaganda, I call it out. I always hope someone else will do it instead and often they do. But also often I see lies just allowed to stand. I know most people aren’t going to read through a long comment thread and maybe it doesn’t matter if there are untruths designed to rile up anger posted among those comments. But I think it does.
Maybe I will take a break. I will still read the many insightful comments those of you who speak honestly post.
And I will continue to believe that many people do not understand the danger in continuing to treat those who are not interested in an honest discussion of ideas as if they are.
You and I often disagree, NYCPSP, but I enjoy reading your comments, and they often make me think.
Don’t go anywhere, NYCPSP.
It would help if, for example, the next time a white person professes to be morally superior because they know better than parents and local bishops about what schools serving high poverty students should do during a serious pandemic, that person’s lies about how he cares more about kids living in poverty than their teachers do gets called out.
This problem is because of the amplification and legitimization of implicitly racist voices that the real danger to students is that their teachers might have to attend a diversity and inclusion session that has a silly Power Point slide. Or wear a mask.
What kind of person believes that the best way to address the racism in society is that Biden should have joined those who are implicitly racist (but deny having a racist bone in their body) who constantly post links from right wing twitter feeds with dishonest anti-CRT rhetoric about the harm that some educator is doing to victimized white children – like their own?
flerp, I haven’t come across any white parents in NYC public schools who believe their own children have been victimized because of a power point slide their teacher might have once had to look at but probably never did. You are the very first.
Ironically, the ones who speak up about how victimized their white children feel – like the mom in Virginia whose son was victimized by having to read Beloved in his AP Lit class – are right wingers who think Trump’s ugly rhetoric is perfectly fine.
That says it all.
Cancel culture – those who want to cancel all Diversity and Inclusion sessions because of an out of context power point slide.
Hypocrisy — those who DEFEND white historians when someone points out a few examples of the implicit racism of sentences in their books that clearly make children who aren’t white uncomfortable and whine about the historians being “cancelled”, who then demand that all diversity programs be perused for any power point slides that might make white people feel uncomfortable.
Implicit racism – denying that your perception of what is very harmful to students (a power point slide their teacher might possibly see) and what isn’t (charter CEOs pushing racist rhetoric about the supposedly violent and dangerous actions of kindergarten children who win charter lotteries.)
this poster provides a good example of how pernicious white supremacy culture is. White people deciding what is good for their own children and for other people’s children, and deciding what is extremely dangerous and upsetting to their children regardless of how it makes other people’s children feel.
that the real danger to students is that their teachers might have to attend a diversity and inclusion session that has a silly Power Point slide. Or wear a mask.
LOL. Yeah. That’s pretty nuts.
Do you really think the partisanship makes a difference in so called diversity training? I thought you are talking about Robin DiAngelo’s bogus “White Fragility” bull crap. It’s more like school bureau’s power and short-sightedness to push ‘political correctness’ ideology in every aspect of school activities that go way beyond the curriculum.
NOTE: This one is a response to Flerp’s comment.
As a parent whose kids went to public schools in “woke” Brooklyn, I have never experienced this supposed pushing of “political correctness” ideology in every aspect of school activities.
It’s just as much an invented danger as Reagan’s “welfare queens”.
A good read from a conservative private school student — a CONSERVATIVE one! — whose private school was held out as an example of diversity run amok, the same way the “welfare queen driving a cadillac was held up as the example of liberalism run amok.
Both of of those were blatant lies that were used to attack democrats for “supporting”.
No doubt there was someone somewhere in the US who cheated on welfare and drove a cadillac during Reagan’s time. Was that really a problem? Was the real problem that the Democrats didn’t join the Republicans in denouncing “welfare queens driving cadillacs” loud enough?
Should the Dems have joined Bari Weiss in denouncing diversity training?
This very conservative teenager understands the reality and is far more honest than flerp and other right wing critics
https://hwchronicle.com/100679/opinion/guest-editorial-a-letter-to-bari-weiss/
Political correctness and “wokeness” are far more entrenched at elite private schools (guilt feelings of the super privileged) than in public schools.
So, I figured out the story with my father’s baseball career, Flerp. I talked to my mother about this. He played on a Brooklyn Dodgers farm team. Never went up to the majors but went into the Army instead. I don’t know where I got that. Something I made up in my head when I was a kid, perhaps.
It is perilous for Americans to act as if or, to assume that attacks against public schools are divorced from the goals of conservative religious leaders. One indicator of the connection is suggested by the Ryan Girdusky interview posted at Pat Buchanan’s site. Girdusky founded the 1776 PAC that funds school board candidates opposed to CRT.
What is remarkable and portends trouble is the failure of the two party system to provide opposition to the religious right’s inroads. Opposition in the U.S. two-party system has to come from the Democratic Party if the nation is to remain a Republic.
An article at Vox EU/CEPR, 4-9-2017, “The explosive combination of religious decentralization and autocracy,” examines Islam but, Catholicism and other Christian faiths that are centralized are examined for contrast.
The descriptors for both decentralized and centralized are “postponement or reversal of social reforms conducive to long term development… a civil society cannot emerge from the tentacles of religion to modern society: reform of the family code and measures to improve women’s status, reform to modernize school curriculum…”
Clerics advance autocracy in preference for order over chaos and, for the gains they can get from the autocratic ruler.
Cite that comment ! or at least the last line. It is plagiarism. Although the property rights probably expired 200 years ago . And I am only teasing you .
Thanks for reading the comment. CAP Action Fund board members, like Georgetown Prof. Peter Edelman… crickets?
But then…Marian Wright Edelman, Jonah Edelman and Josh Edelman….
The Democratic Party cared about education —before I was born. Now, they are perfectly happy to let it go. The Gates Foundation is firmly in control.
Because they went to private schools and only know how to take.
The “they”, Bill and Melinda Gates.
Read Josh Edelman’s Linked in info.
It is hard for the Democratic Party to defend public schools when the leadership sends their own children to elite private prep schools that are always much writer than the nearby public schools.
No White House filled will prep school Ivy League alumni is going to be effective in defending public schools.
When Donna Brazil was the DNC Chair, people knew. IMO, the public is largely unaware that the current DNC Chair is Jamie Harrison (since Jan 2021). He’s opposed to charter schools.
There’s no reason to believe right wing propaganda but, we should know what they push. They push the notion that Black people want charter schools.
Someone with a high profile like Donna Brazile should come to the aide of the Democratic Party and advocate loudly for public schools.
POC who sit on the Robin Hood board, set back the advancement of civil rights.
People on the Robin Hood Foundation board- Marian Wright Edelman, Roland Fryer, John King Jr. (Obama’s Ed. Sec)., Paul Tudor Jones, Glen Durbin (subject of the VF article, “For Glen Durbin, the Epstein saga isn’t over”), an exec. from I Heart Media, a business that has been linked to censorship of opinions critical of the GOP.
Criticism of Robin Hood Foundation- “hedge fund industry groups that advocate for favorable tax treatment that decreases revenue to governments that provide public services.”
Interesting, isn’t it, that at the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, not a single Epstein victim who could name names of the wealthy and powerful who partook of his services was invited to testify. The curation of the testimony speaks, I suspect, volumes.
Interesting too that the many videos taken in Epstein’s homes have disappeared. Who was taped?
The first news reports after he was busted the second time said that there were whole rooms in his palaces devoted to his surveillance software, computers, hard drives.
All disappeared.
Democrats won’t fight back because the status quo is fine with them. They’re also constantly chasing the GOP, trying to attract conservative voters. In the end, they’re mostly millionaires looking to become multi millionaires.
There’s a meme going around on Facebook that captures our two-party system well.
Working class: Will you please help us?
GOP: No
Dems: No ❤️ 🏳️🌈 #blm
Stop expecting the Dems to care. After all, a Dem gave us Arne Duncan ON PURPOSE. Yet some still worship at the Church of Obama.
What’s the definition of insanity again?
As a certified Obama hater I am hear to say get back to me when there is a viable 3rd party choice. In fact get back to me when a sizeable proportion of the electorate is not voting for fascists . Even as large portions of that population are hurt by the Republican economic agenda.
So the answer is to do exactly what the Republicans have done since 1964. It is time for Democratic voters to turn as far Left as Republicans have right. Giving Americans an actual choice.
Haven’t you heard? The Dems are “far left.” All the pundits say so! Now the narrative is that Biden is a socialist. As Scalia said, words have no meaning anymore, because I wish Biden was a socialist.
Look at the Squad, which is center left. They’re painted as out of control by their own party. Pelosi had more vitriol for them than she did for Trump.
As for turning the party left, I think that’s what liberals said about Biden-they’d make him more liberal. How’s that going?
Nancy said the party’s a “big tent” where everyone is welcome. That includes Sinema, Manchin and anti choice folks. Also anti public education and anti union folks.
(And couldn’t Chucky punish those two miscreants by taking away committees and such. Has that been done? The GOP knows how to keep people in line.)
The Dems have no more central message /beliefs/values beside “We’re not Trump.” How’s this working out?
Who’s worse? The GOP or that party that can’t seem to stop them?
I hear HRC wants to try again in 2024. There you go! Try that again! Yep, the Dems will lose in the midterms, and in 2024.
And the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome. But you all keep chasing unicorns while the country burns.
Laura
Republicans define big tent when overt theocrats, racists, sexists and fascists take over the party and manage to keep women who know they are going to lose their rights under that rule..
Obama made a deal with tech tyrants like gates to be elected. Romney or McCain would have been worse the country. Imagine D.C. with no checks on McConnell or Kevin McCarthy.
Too many leaders in the Democratic Party stepped away from the public schools decades ago. They send their children to the best independent schools promoting local NIMBY policies while clueless about the challenges faced in the public schools. If they learned anything from the “defund the police” police debacle, maybe they should take on the mantra “Fund the Public Schools.” Alas, operatives in the Democratic Party don’t seem that clever.
Corporate America backs controversial ideas which are presented as liberal because they know it drives people to vote for the party of deregulation and lower taxes on the wealthy.
“Clever” ?
Children’s Defense Fund has $20 mil. in assets. On 6-4-2021,CDF endorsed Stand for Children which has $7 mil in assets.
Are the founders of each organization perceived as Republican or Democrat?
Heat, hear, Mr. Hartl–well-said!!!
&…what Joel & Laura wrote a few comments up. Obama (living in his $11m mansion) gave us Arne Duncan (who’s now intending to run for Chicago mayor in 2023…right, because HE’D be able to work with the Chicago Teachers Union SO much better than Mayor Lightfoot!!), & he did SO much more to permanently ruin U.S. public schools than DeVos (not saying I’m a fan–of course, the opposite). Someone so cold hearted, so uncaring that he dared state that Katrina was good for New Orleans.
I think everyone here knows the score: I call the GOP the Groveling Old Penumbras.
But I call the Dems…blind, deaf & DUMBocrats.
&, no, the ones we’ve mostly been talking about here (not AOC, The Squad, Bernie, Jeff Merkely–in fact, the only Dem to square-on w/Rahm Emanuel at his hearing) are totally lost as our allies, & have been AWOL for a very long time.