Indiana blogger Steve Hinnefeld reports here that a Democratic legislator has proposed a bill that prevents voucher schools from discriminating against students, staff, or families based on their religion, race, sexual orientation, or disability.
Bill Phillis of Ohio has proposed that religious schools that get vouchers should be subject to the same laws and regulations as public schools and should be required to report their finances and take the same state tests as other publicly funded schools.
Will legislators in Ohio and Indiana tolerate any restrictions on voucher schools?
Will they too be required to be accountable in exchange for getting public money?
Or will the public be forced to pay for schools that discriminate and schools that indoctrinate their students into their religious world-view?
Vouchers should not go anywhere, especially to any “school” tied to any religion!!! AMEN!
Reblogged this on David R. Taylor-Thoughts on Education and commented:
Vouchers should be abolished.
All one has to do is look at BOOST in the state of MD and know that a certain court case is likely to be making some big headlines very soon.
Too many words in the headline. Let me fix it: “Vouchers should not be allowed.”
Why, if they’s lowed to pass this bill, it wood COMPLEETLY under-mine the hole purpose of vouchurs!!! Ruhdikulus!
The hole point is that places like Bob’s Real Good Florida School kin teach right frum wrong. Thats why my girlfriend Darlene kum up with the grate curriculums we have at Bob’s Real Good Florida School, which you caint git at them gobbermint run Socialist public skools whar they” try to teach yore kids to vote fur Prezidints from Kenya and try ot make em transgendered!
At Bobs, conveniently located between Wild Wuornos’s Adult Novelties and Bob’s Gas and Glaze Donuts an right across the street from Bobs Gun and Pawn in the old K-Mart Shoppin Center, yore child kin git a compleet educashun. We offer
His Story, from Creation to Modern Babylon to the Rapshure
Anglish, the language the Bible was wrote in and the offushul langwidge uv the United States of America (Git the foruneers out; theyre takin are jobs!)
Health, includin are new unit on Unnatural Acts and Gods Punishments
Gun Safety, Marks-man-ship, Feeld Tactiks, an Dressin Uh Dear
An we don’t allow in all them types that they lets in to public schools whar you don’t know what kind uv peeple yore child is gonna be sociating with–ones with all kinds uv perversions that wood jist make you sick to thank about, well as uther studints NOT EVEN OF THEYRE OWN RACE!!!! Cuase hear at Bob’s Real Good Florida School, ITS ALL ABOUT VALUES.
An of course its a lot easier runnin the skool than tryin to live off Darlene’s disability, an some Communists would wont you to thank theirs somethin bad about that–as if it was rong to run a buizness an hire people like my cousin Lottie Lou are Bible Teechur and my good freend Toosey who runs the Skool Bookstore, Ammo, and Bait Shop.
Dont let the Socialists reg-u-late are skools! Corse they wont em to be be just like theyre commie skools is.
My name is Bob, an ah proves this messige. Make America Grate Agin!
Mollie Ivins smiles. She put Texas legislators in their place with a milder version of your amazing exercise in speech writing and corrupted advertising writing.
I am reminded of a used car salesman who was enlisted to do radio ads for the Contemporary Arts Center. His name was Cash …… He took the offer to heart and in the same voice he had mastered to sell used cars asked all of his fans to “Come on down to that art place in Cincinnati and get yourself some modern art.”
I know you are trafficking in multiple stereotypes. I am a rare critter, a native Floridian.
Your remarkable spin could the expanded beyond Florida. I suggest Northern Kentucky where we have the ARK replica with dinosaurs on board and Answers in Genesis believers who are certain that everything was created around 6000 BC. The legislators in Kentucky gave this venue tax credits.
Im deaply ofendet, Laura, that you wood call me and Darlene stereotypes.
Your wonderful story, Laura, reminds me of one that Dan Rather tells in his autobiography The Camera Never Blinks. His first job in broadcasting was for a little radio station. On Sundays, he would put on a recording of a sermon and go get lunch. Well, one day he returned to the station to find that the recording had been stuck and playing, “Go to Hell, Go to Hell, Go to Hell, . . .” over and over. So, he was fired from his first broadcasting job. LOL.
LOL
“Go to hell. Go to hell. Go to hell” sounds like sabotage … did someone else want to get rid of him?
Years ago, Lloyd, I was working for Houghton Mifflin. We received an all-company memo from the CEO saying that it had come to his attention that some people were downloading and listening to unlicensed music, something completely unacceptable and a cause for termination in a company that depended on intellectual property for its earnings.
The MIS department at this company had a program called The Octopus (if I remember correctly) that allowed upper-level managers to see what was on any computer.
Well, the next day after that memo went out, I came into the office, fired up my computer, and found on its desktop a folder full of non-licensed jazz music. I had not, of course, put them there. They had to have been placed there by someone else, and it must have been someone who knew that I am a jazz fan. (I play jazz and classical guitar.)
I immediately went and reported this to HR.
Do you suspect who was out to get you?
I had no idea. Still, to this day, a mystery to me.
Darlene feels real strong about the Health Class on Unnatural Acts and there punishmints ever since. . . . wayul, thats privut.
A native Floridian!!!! I knew that you were a rare being, Laura, but this!?!?!?! I have great hopes for our state, Laura. Every election is now down to the wire and won by the Republicans only by virtue of the various ways in which they cook the vote. Soon, we shall be as blue as my beloved Tampa Bay.
“conveniently located between Wild Wuornos’s Adult Novelties” I think I went in there once. I saw that sign about Adult literature, and it made me think there was probably a copy of Henry IV part 2 since Shakespeare is about as adult as you can get. Well! I never! Was nothing in there but perverted stuff and pictures, and after I decided none of them was the fair Ofeelya, I left.
LOL!!!
I’m shocked “progressive” ed reformers are backing discriminatory vouchers.
That’s a rather dramatic lurch Right. They’re aware they’re indistinguishable from Betsy DeVos as this point, right? Not a dimes worth of difference.
Wait until they start expelling pregnant students, which religious schools regularly do here. The students then enroll in the public school, which of course is their right and happy to have them.
I see a lot of lawsuits in their future. They better re-allocate some of the union busting money to high priced lawyers. They’re going to need an army of them. I predict private schools rue the day they joined forces with these folks. They aren’t going to benefit private schools anymore than they’ve benefited public schools. We’re all going down together.
I’m old enough to remember all the way back to 5 or 10 years ago when “progressive” ed reformers assured the public that if we agreed to privatize public schools they wouldn’t jam vouchers through.
Another broken promise. They promote vouchers with the same single-minded zeal they promoted charters. Still nothing for public schools, though. The dead last priority, our students.
Non-public schools should not get ANY public funds. Period.
AMEN! No charters and no vouchers.
IMO, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the hedge funds of the contractor school sector (charters) and, billionaire-funded organizations like Fordham Institute are delivering the K-12 that right wing groups want e.g.the Koch network and Gates Foundation.
Cleveland, Ohio’s bishop was recently appointed to lead Philadelphia’s diocese. Cleveland.com (news outlet) reviewed two communities in Cleveland that have “neighborhood schools in severe decline, 17% of students are using vouchers and 20% in charter schools”. Philadelphia’s new bishop while in Cleveland, “launched an initiative to develop a strategic plan for strengthening Catholic education …a think tank to recommend ways to ensure youth are fully involved in the life of the local church.”
If taxpayers are funding religious tribalism to replace public schools and engagement in local democracy, 66% of them are opposed. If part of the local community is the Knights of Columbus or the Catholic League, the leaders’ prior work with Republicans like Jesse Helms and the political activities like opposition to Elizabeth Warren and other Democrats, then, a strong review is warranted by those who value the country that so many sacrificed for and the country that the forefathers envisioned.
From the Pennsylvania Catholic Conference, “Victory for school choice advocates!”
Here is a link to the oral arguments in the Supreme Court asking for vouchers/scholarships for religious educaion in Montana. This case will be decided in June and there are others in the pipeline.
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/18-1195?utm_source=arguments-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-01-24&utm_content=text-oyez-case-3
That is what Finland does. In Finland, private schools that get public money must follow all the same legislation and/or laws that the public schools do. That probably explains why less than one percent of the k-12 schools in Finland are private.
Exactly, Lloyd. Wells said!
I have a really good regulation. If a student is removed from a charter or voucher school and returns to a public school, the charter of voucher is obliged to pay twice the amount it received from the state at the outset of the year. Half of the money would go to reimburse the public school for having to clean up after the voucher school, and the other half would go into a fund to repay parents when a school went belly up and left a place without a school.
Good idea. I have had some similar thoughts The private sector should be held accountable for the useless disruption.
Fordham and its funders should be held accountable for ECOT.