Peter Greene weighs in on Mike Petrilli’s article in the New York Times.
He writes:
Mike Petrilli, head honcho of the right-tilted Fordham Institute thinky tank, made it into the New York Times today to do some chicken littling about Learning Loss and suggest a bold solution. Don’t have a NYT subscription? That’s okay– let me walk you through the highlights of this festival of Things We Can Stop Saying About Education Right Now, Please.
Let’s start by invoking general Learning Loss panic. Petrilli points out that students “lost significant ground” during covid, and now NWEA says that students continue “backsliding” and “falling further behind.” People, in Petrilli’s view, are not panicking enough about “America’s massive learning loss.”

First, let’s use some more precise language, please. In all discussions of learning loss, we are actually talking about scores on a Big Standardized Test of reading and math going down. We will never, ever know how much of the slippage in tests scores is the result of students going a year or two without practicing for the BS Test. But in the meantime, it would be great if we stopped talking about test scores as if they were infallible equivalents of learning and achievement.
Second, “learning loss” is a misnomer. I’m willing to bet that verrrrrrry tiny number of students in this country actually lost learning. I’m equally certain that the vast majority of students did not learn as much as they would have in a non-pandemic year, but that’s not the same.
Think of it this way. It’s budget time, and the Mugwumps’ proposed budget increases spending on widgets from $500 to $600. The Wombats say, “Let’s only increase widget spending to $550.” That gets us to the part where the Mugwump talking point is “The Wombats want to cut spending on widgets.” When in fact everybody wants widget spending to go up.
That’s where we are. During the pandemic, learning occurred–just not as much as might have been expected in a normal-ish year. And this looks most like a crisis if you think of test scores like stock prices and focus on data rather than individual human students. (Petrilli does not invoke the baloney about impact on future earnings, so we’ll not go there right now.)
And, it should also be pointed out, it is where we were for a decade before covid even hit.
Having sounded the alarm, Petrilli bemoans the surfeit of leaders willing to make alarmy noises.The country is in desperate need of leaders who will speak the truth about what’s happening in our K-12 schools, and are willing to make the hard choices to fix it. Simply put, we need to bring some tough love back to American education.
Tough love? Back? Petrilli doesn’t really explain how the pandemic led to a loss of tough love in education. But that’s the dog we’re going to try to hunt with.
He cites Michael Bloomberg, who is ceaselessly alarmed about anything going on in public schools. Bloomberg wants a plan from Washington, a joint session of Congress, a Presidential address.
Ah, says Petrilli–you know when politicians were on the same page about education, presumably flinging tough love around with wild abandon.
We’re talking, of course, about the golden days of No Child Left Behind.
Petrilli remembers it fondly, citing how we saw “significant progress” which of course means “test scores went up,” which they did, at first, for a few years. Anyone who was in a classroom, especially a math or reading classroom, can tell you why. Within a couple of years, schools figured out what test prep would be most effective. Then they targeted students who were teetering on the line between High Enough Scores and Not High Enough Scores, especially the ones in special subgroups, and test prepped the hell out of those kids. At which point scores started stagnating because schools had done all they could do.
The Average Yearly Progress requirements were set up as a bomb that would go off during the next administration. Again, if you were working in a school at the time, you remember that chart, showing a gentle upward glide for a bit before jutting upward to 2014, the magical year in which 100% of students were to score above average on the BS Test. Oh, Congress will fix that before it happens, we were told. They did not. By the early 20-teens, there were two types of school districts–those that were failing, and those that were cheating.
Petrilli claims maybe success probably, saying NCLB “likely contributed” to graduation rates (no, schools just learned how to game those), college attainment rates (eh, maybe, but correlation is not causation) and “possibly” future real-life outcomes (absolutely not a shred of evidence–even reformster Jay Greene said as much).”It’s true that No Child Left Behind was imperfect,” says Petrilli. No. It stunk. But Petrilli has quite the tale here.There were fierce debates over “teaching to the test” and “drill and kill” instruction; about closing low-performing schools versus trying to fix them; and about the link between student achievement and family poverty. But once the law’s shortcomings became apparent, policymakers responded by adopting common standards and improving standardized tests, so as to encourage higher-level teaching. They poured billions into school turnarounds, invested in stronger instructional materials and started grading schools on how much progress their kids made from year to year, rather than focusing on one snapshot in time — an approach that is markedly fairer to high-poverty campuses. Still, the bipartisan effort that was No Child Left Behind ultimately fell apart as our politics fractured.
That’s quite the load. There was no debate about teaching to the test or drill and kill, because nobody was in favor of it except shrugging administrators who were staring at 2014. Petrilli also forgets that “teach to the test” ended up meaning “cut out any other classes–or recess–that does not appear on the test.” Arts slashed. History and science cut (at least for those teetering students). Closing low-performing schools was, in fact, the quickest way for a district to free itself of the low scores; who knows how many districts were restructured to put predictably low 8th grade scores under the same roof as better scores from lower or higher grades. And yes, poverty affects scores, despite all the No Excusing in the world.
What came next did not address any of these issues, The Common Core was an amateur hour fiasco. Were standardized tests improved? Not really (as witnessed by the fact that states dumped the SBA and PARCC as quickly as they could)–but it made a lucrative contract for some test manufacturers. Including progress in scores is great–unless you’re teaching kids who are already scoring at the top. School turnarounds have consistently failed (e.g. Tennessee’s failed Achievement School District).
But he’s right that Trump’s election and appointment of Betsy DeVos hurt the reformster alliance (despite the fact that DeVos had long been part of the club). But then, so was the increasing split between the social justice wing of reform and the free marketeer AEI-Fordham wing.
But look– NCLB and the sequel, Race to the Top, were just bad. They started from bad premises: 1) US education is failing because 2) teachers either don’t care or don’t know what they’re doing. They rest on a foundation of using a mediocre BS Test as an unquestioned proxy for student learning and teacher effectiveness, creating a perfect stage on which to conduct a national field test of Campbell’s Law (when you make a measure a proxy for the real thing, you encourage people to mess with the measure instead of the real thing, and it gets worse if the measure isn’t very good). And none of the “policymakers” who championed this mess ever came up with a single solitary idea of how to Fix Things that actually worked on either a local or macro scale.
The pandemic did not help anything in education. But it did lead to some flaming prose, like Petrilli’s assertion that “here we are, with decades of academic progress washed away and achievement trends still moving in the wrong direction.” This kind of overheated rhetoric is nothing new from the folks who gave us The Pandemic Erased Two Decades of Progress in Math and Reading as a headline. But what does it even mean? Washed away to where? Did knowledge dribble out of students’ heads? Did the learning of the past several years retroactively vanish with former students waking up across America feeling a little bit dumber somehow? Did teachers forget everything they knew about how to teach students, so they have to start over? Or do we just mean “test scores are down”?
Petrilli breaks this down to some other issues. His first point starts out fine– there’s an attendance problem right now. But he tries to set that beside an alleged nationwide move to lower standards. I’m not sure what basis there is for that assertion. He points to the “no zeros” rule used in some schools, but that rule existed in many places (like my old district) for ages. Maybe it’s letting slackers slide through in other places, but my own experience with no zeros policy is that it merely kept students working who would otherwise have given up–kind of the opposite of encouraging slacking.
But then he’s slicing NCLB-style baloney again:Virtually all schools and districts have enjoyed a vacation from accountability. Almost nobody is worried about state officials shutting their campuses because of low performance, or forcing district schools to replace their principals or teachers.
You say that like it’s a bad thing, Mike.
Embedded here are many of the same bad assumptions that have driven ed reform for decades. Teachers and schools have no motivation to do their jobs unless they have some kind of threat of punishment hanging over their heads. This isn’t just bad education policy–it’s bad management. As management which W. Edwards Deming pointed out often, fear should be driven out of the workplace. But NCLB and RttT were always all stick, no carrot, always starting out with the worst possible assumptions about the people who had chosen education as their life’s work (assumptions made largely by people who had never actually worked in a school).
And even if you don’t dig Deming, there’s another thing to consider–none of the stuff Petrilli misses actually worked (which was Deming’s point). He points out that the kind of thing being done in Houston right now has become rare, to which I say “Good,” because Houston is a nightmare and it will end just like all the other similar attempts–no actual success, but lots of disruption and dismay and upheaval of children’s education.
Petrilli will now argue for NCLB 3.0. We need “action at scale,” but we can’t ignore “the support and assistance schools require.” Holding schools accountable wasn’t enough because– wait for it– if NCLB failed it was because schools lacked the expertise and know-how to do it right. And now Petrilli almost–but not quite–gets it.“Teaching to the test” and other problems with No Child Left Behind stemmed from schools resorting to misguided practices to meet requirements. Under pressure to boost scores, but without the training to know what to do, some educators engaged in endless practice testing, and stopped instruction in any subject that was unlikely to be on the state assessment. In a few places, educators even resorted to outright cheating. They likely felt they had no choice, because they hadn’t been given the tools to succeed.
Nope. Close but no cigar. No, the reason all those things happened was because, as NCLB 1.0 and 2.0 were designed, those things were the tools to “succeed.” Because “success” was defined as “get maximum number of kids to score well on a poorly-designed multiple-choice math and reading test.” Granted, when most of us think about “success” in education, we have a whole list of other things in mind–but none of those things were valued by NCLB or RttT.
But we’re rolling up to the finish now. But after a decade of building capacity, offering helping hands and adding funds, it’s time once again to couple skill-building with will-building.
That is a great line. But what capacity-building? More seats in unregulated charters and voucher-accepting schools? Which helping hands? And exactly whose will needs to be built? Parents? Children? Teachers? Policymakers? I’m seriously asking, because I think a hell of a lot of will was involved in slogging through the last couple of years.
Petrilli calls on schools to spend their “federal largesse” to “catch their kids up”–and I think the call to accelerate education is one of the most infuriating calls of the last few years. Sure– because all along teachers have known how to educate children faster but they just haven’t bothered to do it, but hey, now that we have certified lower test scores, teachers will all bust the super-secret Faster Learning plans out of their file cabinets.
Petrillii says we don’t actually need to bring back NCLB, though he seems to have been talking about nothing else– just let’s get out those big sticks and get back to (threats of) “tough interventions for persistent underperformance,” because that has totally worked in the past. No, wait. It hasn’t actually worked ever.
Kids, too, should know that it’s time to hit the books again. We need to rethink our lax grading policies, make clear to parents that their children need to be at school and bring back high school graduation exams and the like to ensure that students buckle down.
Also, get those kids off our lawns. And while you’re making sure parents know their kids should be in school, maybe talk to all the reform crowd that has been working hard to build distrust of public schools and deepen disrespect of educators.
And the big finish:Education matters. Achievement matters. We need leaders who are willing to say so, and educators who are willing to act like these simple propositions are true.
This seems straightforward enough, though if you replace “achievement matters” with “standardized test scores matter,” which is what he really means, it doesn’t sound quite as compelling. And it’s insulting as hell to suggest that the ranks of educators are filled with people who are unwilling to act as if education matters.
Well, the piece is completely on brand for the New York Times, and it certainly echoes the refrain of that certain brand of reformster whose response to their own policy failures has been, “Well, get in there and fail harder.” No Child Left Behind failed, and it not only failed but left some of its worst policy ideas embedded in the new status quo, continuing to do damage to public education right through today.
The pandemic did many things, and one thing it did was panic the testing industry, which faced an existential threat that everyone might realize that school without the BS Test, or NWEA’s lovely test-prep tests, might actually be okay. It’s no wonder that they feel a special nostalgia for the days when the entire weight of the government reinforced their importance. So here we are, painting low reading and math tests scores as an educational crisis whose only solution is to get more fear, more threats, and especially more testing back into schools.
I’m sorry if this assessment of some reformsters, their policies, and their motives seems harsh, but, you know– tough love.

One has to be paid a LOT to be willing to say such obvious bullshit with a straight face, but being President of the Fordham Foundation for Enriching Officers of the Fordham Foundation is a lucrative gig.
Ofc, the truth is that test-and-“standards”-based education “reform” failed UTTERLY, but ironically, there has been no accountability for the accountability mavens. It led to a dramatic debasement of ELA curricula and pedagogy and to developmentally inappropriate Math curricula and pedagogy.
And it failed BY THE “REFORMERS'” own preferred measure, test scores.
Shortly after NCLB was passed, there was a minor uptick in scores because kids were doing a lot of practice tests, and that improves scores.
But since then, there has been, over three decades, no statistically significant increase in scores based on this “reform.” NONE.
It hasn’t worked.
What’s a guy who depends on the river of green flowing from the oligarchs who promoted this disaster gonna do?
Double down, no matter how ridiculous that is.
Aie yie yie. One cannot make up stuff this stupid and craven.
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cx: to say what is obviously bullshit
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Petrillo surely gets paid mightily to continue the BEAT UP ON TEACHERS & STUDENTS march, year after year. This small man has a BS in Political Science & never taught a kid in his life. He’s a BS artist, unethical, a liar and a spinner of the 1st degree. He’s exactly what corporate profiteers ordered and are willing to pay him & his cohorts well…..most have never been close to kids other than their own.
NCLB was the WORST DISASTER – thanks for nothing REPUBLICANS & “W”!
Special Education students were sent through the wringer along with their teachers.
100% mastery by 100% of all students? Certified & experienced SpEd teachers were dropping out after valiant efforts, suddenly, they had to return to universities for umpteen hours of new certification requirements.
Students in the Mild – Severe Intellectual Disability ranges were suddenly thrown into On-Grade-Level regular education texts, instructions & HARMFUL BS TESTING……for months. None of the instructions met those students’ needs. Special IEP goal driven content was thrown out and SWD had to write essays, read comprehension questions, calculate % —- all while functions years below grade levels. School systems were becoming blood baths of harmful grades, public data postings, Failing schools, Failing teachers, parents pulling kids out, and charters refusing students with disabilities…….Remembering that insane chaos created corporate-rising-income-torture-chambers for WHAT? For guys like Petrillo & Co & ENDLESS MILLION$ to be made.
It must be time for MILLIONAIRES to need more MILLIONS – ready to kick puppies & slap vulnerable children again.
Sick,Sick,Sick!
Who raised these SOCIOPATHS to commit
continued education atrocities upon our kids, teachers & society?
There is no therapy for them – they are OK with this.
We can’t protect our kids from their evil!
We’ve all tried.
We are a SICK NATION!
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Agreed. These people sit at a very comfortable remove where they don’t see any of the disastrous consequences of their idiotic ideas. I saw first-hand, from inside the textbook industry, how coherent curricula went out the window because of these jerks.
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Mike Petrilli was paid $255,000 by the foundation in 2021. I don’t know if that is A LOT, but it is less than a dean of a major college would be paid at an AAU university.
See https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/311816446
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Sure, TE. 255K is chump change. Crumbs off Bill Gates’s table.The median annual income in the US, btw, is $45,760. But you are an economist. You probably knew that. So Petrilli sub master of the universe makes well over two hundred thousand a year more than that. For what? Petrilli has exactly what expertise that merits this sort of pay? He is wrong about the most obvious things, like the fact that a 1 percent drop in test scores isn’t equivalent to years of learning loss.
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There are a lot of Americans who would love to earn half what Petrilli does for being simply a mediocre propagandist.
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TE is math challenged if he doesn’t know whether getting paid $255,000 in one year is A LOT.
But then we already knew that. He’s an economist, which means he couldn’t do the math required to become a real scientist.
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” it is less than a dean of a major college would be paid”
This certainly is true, but what’s the point here?
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That being a wanker at a think tank is just like being a Dean at a major college, of course.
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TE, thanks for the information.
Most people would consider $255,000 an excellent salary.
It’s certainly more than the salary of teachers, who have a very taxing job and often buy school
Supplies out of their own pocket.
Being president of a DC think tank is very different from teaching. The think tank job involves sitting in an air-conditioned office in DC, with a secretary and assistants, venturing out to give speeches, holding board meetings quarterly, writing an occasional report or article. That’s a whole lot easier than coping with 30 students, assistant principals and principals evaluating you, the media finding fault, parents angry because of a book you assigned….
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Dr Ravitch,
Agree that it is a good salary. It does not seem out of the ordinary for this kind of job. After all it is a bit more than half of Randi Weingarten’s salary.
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TE,
Randi Weingarten works harder for her salary than any think tank executive.
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Dr. Ravitch,
If that is true perhaps it is appropriate that she earns twice as much, though to be honest I am not a believer in any sort of just wage theory.
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Well, why should anybody make more than she needs? Does anybody really need $250K? In Finland, the most popular influencer makes $80K,and she is not moving to the US where she could make $8 million. Apparently, in the US even a union leader needs half a million.
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After seeing all the bullshit TE posts here, we can certainly understand why he doesn’t believe in just wage theory.
If such a system were put into practice (at universities, for example) TE would be paid “justly”, which is to say that he wouldn’t get a penny for what he does.
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It’s hilarious, in an extremely dark and disconcerting way, that these people who supposedly want us to take a scientific, mathematical approach to measurement in education TOTALLY FAIL TO RECOGNIZE THE INVALIDITY OF THE TESTING INSTRUMENTS THEY HAVE FORCED UPON THE COUNTRY. As naively as anyone who never took undergraduate Statistics 101, they simply ASSUME ON FAITH that the federally mandated tests actually validly test what they claim to test.
And these education “pundits,” like Petrilli, NEVER QUESTION THAT NAIVE ASSUMPTION. That’s not what he is paid to do–any actual thinking at his “think tank.” It’s as though he were saying that we should take a more scientific approach to navigation and steer clear of the edges of the earth or a more scientific approach to medicine and go back to using leeches and exorcism.
Here’s why the testing system, in ELA, is not science but pseudoscience:
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Petrilli would not know actual science if it hit him over the head.
He has a degree in political “science”, which (like economics) is not real science.
It’s for the math challenged like TE.
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The “learning loss panic” is a manufactured crisis in order to continue to test, punish, undermine public education, expand privatization and line the pockets of the testing industrial complex. Students are not the main interest of these fabricated concerns, regardless of what Petrilli claims. It is lame attempt to take advantage of the manufactured crisis when the real motive is to gain access to more public funds and transfer in into private pockets. Shame on “The New York Times” for amplifying this nonsense.
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Love this, @Bob Shepherd: “It’s as though he were saying that we should take a more scientific approach to navigation and steer clear of the edges of the earth or a more scientific approach to medicine and go back to using leeches and exorcism.”
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Great analogies- It’s obvious that cleverness/intelligence/integrity are traits exclusive to people who have the best interests of the nation at heart. Ed deformers have political and economic clout. They are woefully well-funded and seriously, souless.
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BILL, MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE: So, I’ve been toying with this idea.
TOADYING DEPENDENT EDUPUNDIT: You have the best ideas. Control-Alt-Delete, Clipping the Paperclip, the Common Core.
BILL: OK. Hear me out. The other day, my monitor went all frizzy, and I tapped it, kinda hard, on its side, and it cleared up.
TOADY: OK. I’M WITH YOU.
BILL: So, what if we did that with third-graders? Knocked them on the head when they weren’t performing well on tests?
TOADY: OK. . . . Uh, yeah. I can see that.
BILL: So, my idea is that we take a systematic approach to this. We strap them down and drop pebbles on their heads. The worse the performance, the bigger and heavier the pebbles. I mean like, small boulder size.
TOADY: Sure. This could be like, a national program. Tough love.
BILL: Exactly. But we’ll need some research to back it up.
TOADY: No problema. I’ll get to work right now on a Foundation Sycophantica White Paper.
BILL: Great. Your check’s in the mail, btw.
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cx: Clippy the Paperclip
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Petrilli assumes we all have memory loss about the disastrous effects of NCLB.
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Petrilli forgets that many of us are not paid, as he is, to have memory loss about the disastrous effects of NCLB.
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Clever thought and wording, Bob
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NTWLB: No Think-tank Wanker Left Behind
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Can Petrelli spell, “ESSA”?
Just a slightly less threatening re-brand that left the worst part of RTTT and Duncan’s NCLB waivers in place: Common Core standards in math and ELA and their bastard spawn, NGSS.
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and enabled their . . .
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Wait for it… Michelle Rhee will reappear, fire a few people on tv, and kids will learn more.
I am nostalgic for the days of PROFESSIONAL standards, local control, professional development facilitated by professionals in teaching and education, authentic assessments, authentic certificated teachers, and concentrating on what works in classrooms and teaching (not what’s on the walls and trackers).
I am NOT nostalgic for another cycle of rebranded A Nation at Risk, the 1989 “Governors’ Summit” in Charlottesville, the “Texas Miracle” (actually Houston – ha, I guess it really didn’t work but let’s do it again), the Fed’s co-opting professional standards written by professional content associations, the addiction to testing – – and the hedge funders and snake oil salesmen seeing all of this an opportunity to make a lot of money (including covid money) on the backs of kids (while pretending to care about poverty and children “left behind.”
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Wait What: exactly!
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Saying that NCLB was great is like believing that 9/11 was terrific for New York, so let’s do it again.
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yup
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The worst learning loss was suffered by the on-the-bubble at-risk high school kids who essentially saw their education end for good when schools closed.
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Can we ask Mr. Petrilli and New York Times editors what percentage of their investment portfolios testing companies make up? It seems logical since nobody can be so oblivious to the facts that they would keep pushing such failed measures. That. and wanting to destroy public education altogether.
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No need to ask Petrilli. He and his foundation are paid by oligarchs who support Education Deform to espouse whatever bullshit the oligarchs come up with next in their quest to destroy public education and keep the masses in thralldom.
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NCLB was not a panacea, but how does this blog rationalize this disgraceful malpractice of public schools?
https://www.joannejacobs.com/post/math-disaster-in-college-would-be-stem-majors-can-t-add-1-2-1-3
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Janice
Stop promoting barriers and impeding productivity. Some authoritative blowhard could force people like you and truck drivers to crank engines to get them started. You want to recreate the wheel before you drive?
Few are unable to type into a search engine, what is 1/2 plus 1/3 (the example in your link). The sites with the correct answer are plentiful.
Be consistent, move to a society that cooks meals over a fire and washes clothes on the bank of a river, etc. Or,
stop dragging down GDP and abandon use of ciphering as the cost of admission to good jobs.
At this juncture, students’ time is better spent learning about the advantages of democracy and how to stop exploitation by the richest 0.1%.
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You asked
The problem is not with how Mathematics is taught in public schools per se but with our general approach to the subject. It’s not developmentally appropriate, and this is why most American adults are functionally innumerate.
The capabilities of the human brain develop over time. We know, for example, from longitudinal fMRI studies that the prefrontal cortex develops (undergoes new growth and rewiring) throughout childhood but that its development is not complete until around age 26. Now, that part of the brain does a lot of things, including,
Analytical thinking
Emotional control
Planning and acting according to a plan
Some short-term memory and attention activities
Reflexive behaviors
Abstract Reasoning and generalization
Problem-solving
You and I will agree that what we are seeing right now is a FAILURE of our current system to teach even basic mathematics to our K-12 kids–at least anything that lasts. Why such a harsh assessment? Well, people in the U.S. who complete high-school have ALL gone through 12 or 13 years of mathematics instruction, but if you interview them as adults, they are basically innumerate. Example: one study showed that 60 percent of American adults could not calculate 10 percent of something even though all that’s involved in doing that is moving the decimal place. And they almost universally report that a) they hate math and b) they are no good at it. So, that’s what we teach in 12 years of math instruction. How to fail at it and hate it and not want to remember it. LOL.
If the goal of our mathematics instruction is to produce adults who can do math through Algebra II and Geometry, clearly, we fail. The failure is so dramatic that one would think that only an utter idiot would say, hey, wow, we’re doing anything approaching the right stuff.
So, why the failure? Well, note that the geniuses who gave us the Common [sic] Core [sic] decided that one thing they needed to do in mathematics is to introduce abstract reasoning a lot EARLER in the curriculum–so, for example, learning the CONCEPT of the variable in Grade 3.
But that’s all wrong developmentally, and so is our entire approach to K-12 mathematics, Common [sic] Core [sic] or no.
Have you ever tried to turn a little Philips screw head with a butter knife? Not easy. It’s the wrong tool for the job.
Well, until the areas of the brain that do abstract reasoning and problem solving are well developed, we are asking kids to do tasks for which they don’t yet have the tools. They are not yet equipped with the cognitive functioning necessary for reasoning abstractly and solving mathematical problems based upon that abstract reasoning, and so they fall back on kludgy alternatives–mostly just following rote procedures, but under the new CCSS Math, they are forced to reason abstractly, and so they fail.
So, here’s what I think we should do: We should hold off doing any but the most basic instruction in addition, multiplication, subtraction, and division until late middle school–say Grade 8. Prior to that, we should have kids do, INSTEAD OF MATH, exercises on pattern recognition, which have been shown to grow neural networks for abstract reasoning.
I contend that if we waited until kids have the proper cognitive tools in placed, they would LEARN FAR MORE and RETAIN FAR MORE than they now do having math for 12 or 13 years.
I used to be married to a woman who was extremely math phobic. My son was in high school and struggling with some problems involving factoring of polynomials. I was up against an intense deadline, and a LOT of money was riding on this–a LOT of our family’s future. So, my wife grabbed his textbook, read the chapter, and then helped him. Afterward, she said, “I could no more have done that when I was 16 than I could have flapped my arms and flown.”
And I think that this is exactly the case.
Our mathematics instruction fails because we start it too early, when the minds of kids are not developmentally ready.
And we have exactly the opposite problem with regard to foreign languages.
I have an extremely low opinion of the ability of our education establishment to think clearly about what it is doing. The utter failure of our math instruction, and the failure to recognize its cause, is a case in point. People will keep doing what they have been doing even if it is, as Rubinstein says in this superb series, “useless.”
NB: There are children who, at very young ages, do have this abstract reasoning ability–the little Gausses and Eulers and von Neumanns among us. It’s important to identify those kids and pull them out into an entirely different instructional track than what I am suggesting, above, for most kids.
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Have you ever tried to turn a little Philips screw head with a butter knife?”
Yes, but only in a pinch when I couldn’t find the flat handled screwdriver and there were no clean spoons available.
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Bob: through 29 years of teaching math, I told my story to justify what we did where I taught.
I was an adequate math student. I was a good kid, one who wanted to do well and bought into the hard work and balanced education idea. So I managed to get through a course in high school entitled Calculus (it was, at best, a brief introduction).
I took no math in college. I was a humanities guy through and through. I considered myself a poor math student. I graduated from college at age 22, spent a year looking for work, and found myself teaching in what we called an alternative school, when the term was not strictly applied to discipline. The math teacher shortage of 1980 onward hit us the fall I turned 25. Desperate and unfettered by state restrictions due to our private status, my administration turned its lonely eyes to me to teach math. They had no choice. Being the guy who bought into teamwork, I took up the challenge.
At every turn, teaching math made sense to me. The logic, the framework, it all seemed to fall together as I learned what the children needed to know simultaneously to teaching it. Regardless of the kids being the ones who had trouble with math, I became successful, so much so that I resolved to add a math certification to my resume, which I eventually did.
For years I laid this experience to being in class with brilliant children. My high school was a private school where very bright kids aspired to big things. Then I read about those developmental studies to which you refer above. It all came into focus: I was not ever a poor mathematician, I was an average human.
We organized our math program where I taught around the idea that we should be teaching the average student just enough algebra and geometry to the average student for that person to get an appreciation of what it entailed, and do that the students would not be penalized by college entrance requirements that increasingly failed to take reality into account. Not surprisingly, our ACT scores went from the clear to a solid average before the 2009 “diploma project” demanded that we change our program.
I am a poster child for the idea that we are doing math all wrong. Our present system favors those whose brain development takes place at an age way younger than average, with the result being that we leave behind a majority of the students. They go through life never understanding how utterly beautiful a simple proof can be, how delightful numbers can fall into patterns from natural phenomena. I got an accidental reprieve from the system quite by accident of history. MST are not so lucky.
It is a shame.
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You asked, Ms. Ingham. Here’s the answer to that question. I, for one, among commenters on this blog emphatically DO NOT attempt to rationalize what is clearly malpractice, but in almost all our schools, not just public ones. Here’s your answer:
https://wordpress.com/post/bobshepherdonline.wordpress.com/5560
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Wrong link. Here’s the correct one:
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2% of all deaths in the U.S. were due to Covid, according to the CDC. Shouldn’t schools be shut down again?
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To set the record straight, the NCLB act allowed for reasonable, age appropriate, and mostly objective state standards, which of course produced reasonable, age appropriate, and mostly objective standardized tests. The only ridiculous requirement was meeting AYP in every-subgroup while expecting improvement every year despite some very small sample sizes (subgroups of 12+) and comparisons with previous year’s sub-groups. However, it wasn’t students who suffered as pressures were low key as VAMs and SLOs were just a twinkle in David Coleman’s eyes. For those who were around there was no call to end testing during the relatively halcyon years of NCLB. And for those teachers who administered the tests, we observed fair and age-appropriate tests and the subsequent scores reflected just that.
The disgraceful malpractice is attributed to the authors of Common Core math standards (circa 2011/12) and the state education departments that bought into these horrific set of standards. That they have backfired is no secret, as your linked article anecdotally suggests. Those very same proto engineers probably couldn’t solve the simplest algebra problem using proportion or explain the significance of pi, either. Every single student entering college has been negatively influenced by Common Core standards in math and language arts, as that’s all they have known since they were in second or third grade. Pushing abstract concepts and other developmentally inappropriate content into lower grades has been a failure that every elementary teacher could have predicted.
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Furthermore, the faddish advent of public-school STEM programs has had little to do with applying knowledge in science and technology (try to find that in the curriculum) or math skills to solving engineering problems.
The majority of math teachers do not have the science, technology, measuring, or engineering backgrounds necessary to deliver a substantial STEM program.
The majority of science teachers do have the requisite math and measuring backgrounds, but still lack the technology and engineering background.
There are no trained technology and engineering teachers.
Most STEM programs are nothing more than trial and error problem solving and rarely, if ever, employ measurement in their solutions.
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Should we also assume that MOST STEM PROGRAM EVALUATORS paint MOST TEACHERS with the same biased brush?
40+ years in education, my observations and data lead me to very different conclusions and with the highest respect of teachers in STEM fields.
It could be that your experiences were in school systems where MOST STEM teachers were employed from
Teach-For-America and substitute teachers filling vacancies.
Retaining highly qualified teachers has not been a major concern by Corporate EduReformer$ for decades…..we see those results clearly.
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data?
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Between Majority” & “MOST” referred to in your comments …….data!
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Did Virginia keep their Standards of Learning instead of Common Core? How did they fare?
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for reasonable, age appropriate, and mostly objective state standards,
uh, no
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I think Mike Petrilli was dropped on his head as an infant, severely damaging his prefrontal cortex (PFC).
“Patients with damaged PFC tend to show irritability, short-term memory loss, lack of empathy, difficulty planning, impulsiveness and inflexibility. Overall, when the PFC is damaged, the individual presents issues with complex cognitive skills, including planning, behavior and emotional expressions.”
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He might also have had an ice pick lobotomy,which has the same effect.
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Becoming dependent on Bill Gates for funding is an equivalent procedure
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A little sub-summary of the NCLB, the pandemic years, from the perspective of corporate leeches — cheesy, unintelligent, two bit used car salesmen — calling themselves education reformers:
There’s a disaster. Hooray! Everyone get on a device and do Competency Based test prep all the time. Buy more stuff! Sign more contracts! Hit those apps!
Oh no! Competency Based online test prep doesn’t work. It’s the teachers’ fault for forcing everyone to do online Competency Based education all the time. Everyone sucks. Sulk. Sulk. Sulk.
Okay, the pandemic is over. Now, it’s time to do more Competency Based online test prep! It worked so well during the pandemic, let’s do some more. Let’s do more testing. Let’s embed tests into every single lesson! There’s a disaster. Hooray!
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You are right.
People like Petrilli love disasters because they are opportunities to make more hundreds of thousands on the failed deforms of the past.
The guy is an edu-ho who gives edu-blow jobs for (or is it to?) hundred dollar bills.
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Why is no one in the national media linking the current teacher shortage and reduction in students enrolled in Teacher Education programs with NCLB and RttT?? They have killed the JOY of teaching and learning for all the reasons mentioned in Peter’s excellent entry. Teachers are leaving because there is no JOY in scripted curriculums, common assessments, common lesson plans, etc. etc. etc. In return, we have created a generation of students who don’t really like learning. Not just school – they don’t like learning. Close reading, all the scripted common bs is not a fun way to learn. Great teachers have students learning even when they don’t realize it. The “reform” movements have shown kids that learning is boring, laborious and unimportant. No wonder they don’t want to become teachers!! Most of us teachers (I am in year 35!) became teachers because we had that teacher or teachers who lit the spark of learning in us. That doesn’t happen because of test and punish policies. It’s magic. It’s a miracle. It’s learning. It’s how it should be. Politicians have ruined that. I’m sad quite frankly that Diane and all the commenters over the years that I have been reading this blog have been right – these reforms will do lasting damage to our society. If only our cries would have been heeded…
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So-called reform is not mentioned as a reason for teachers leaving because the mainstream news is owned by the corporations that also favor privatization. The only reason they give for the declining number of teachers is low pay and poor working conditions which they never fully explain.
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Thank you, Ms. Hauer. Precisely. And people like Gates are totally clueless about anything you said. And Petrilli, of course, is paid to pretend that he is totally clueless about anything you said.
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What privatization hacks, the New York Times Editorial board, and too many policy makers don’t understand is that education needs more love. Better resources for schools, better support for teachers, better pay for all who work in the school house, and wrap around services that give underprivileged families that boost that enhances opportunity. It’s obvious through the failed education policies of the past thirty years that those executive glad handers who think they are God’s gift to the world, aren’t so much.
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I just gave an i-Ready diagnostic test because LAUSD Superintendent Carvahlo is a G D moron. I-Ready SUCKS! This is the worst load of horse hockey I have ever seen, and that’s saying something. Damn it! Damn it!!! Horrible!
The stupid test, which I have to give three frickin times a year, has 100 questions. 100! It starts with a sales pitch video the students must watch. And in between each few low level dumbass vocabulary questions are vapid video games. The thing says let’s take a break (and RHEEALY WASTE SOME TIME) and play what is basically Frogger or Mario Brothers. Hours of wasted time. This BS is going to cause — learning loss! Damn! Damn it! F@&$@@@&&%#^^!!!
Apple is trash.
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LCT, it’s all about the Benjamin’s.
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Is is fair to iMagine that you are iRate about iReady?
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Since day one Apple has been cashing in on the education market with junky products.
They only hire nitwits to develop their “educational” software.
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