Judd Legum writes here on his blog about the dangerous crusade of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. against vaccines and the pernicious support of his campaign by people like Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter. Kennedy’s claims about anti-vaccines have been debunked repeatedly by scientists, but that doesn’t faze him.
If his name were Robert F. Smith, no one would care what he says. But he’s trading on the family name to spread his crackpot views. Worse, he’s running for the Presidency, based on his famous name, and could be a spoiler. Trump loyalists like Steve Bannon are already talking up a Trump-Kennedy ticket. This would be funny, if it weren’t so dangerous, to public health and the future of our democracy.
Judd Legum wrote:
Every year, vaccines save millions of lives. Polio, which used to cripple and kill thousands of children in the United States, has been eliminated thanks to widespread vaccination. Diphtheria, which used to be the most common cause of childhood death in the United States, is exceedingly rare. Other serious illnesses, including measles, whooping cough, and tetanus, are no longer a pervasive threat. Overall there are more than 25 vaccines that can safely “prevent diseases, protect health throughout the lifespan, and help to prevent and mitigate outbreaks.”
But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has spent the last two decades of his professional life using discredited, manipulated, and cherry-picked evidence to argue that life-saving vaccines are dangerous. Now Kennedy, part of the most famous family in American politics, is running for president.
Kennedy’s candidacy — and anti-vaccine propaganda — has attracted vocal support from a small but influential group of very wealthy people. Their support may not make Kennedy’s longshot bid for the Democratic presidential nomination viable. But it could help legitimize Kennedy’s lies about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. And the consequences could be lethal.
Last Thursday, Joe Rogan, the popular podcaster who inked an exclusive deal with Spotify for $200 million, hosted Kennedy for a three-hour conversation. Kennedy told Rogan’s more than 10 million listeners that “vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.” Rogan, a comedian and former host of Fear Factor, spent the entire episode validating Kennedy’s views. Kennedy was presented as a brave truth-teller, standing up to powerful forces. Anyone who doesn’t accept Kennedy’s conspiracy theories, according to Rogan, is unable to think for themselves.
Kennedy spent the better part of an hour rehashing an article he wrote in 2005, which falsely claimed that childhood vaccines are linked to autism. The article was so flawed it was ultimately retracted by the outlet that published it, Salon. “[C]ontinued revelations of the flaws and even fraud tainting the science behind the connection make taking down the story the right thing to do,” Salon’s editor wrote.
In the piece, Kennedy relied extensively on the work of Mark Geier, a doctor whose license to practice medicine was revoked by Maryland in 2011. Geier pushed the vaccine-autism link as a frequent expert witness. He also misrepresented his credentials and developed “a ‘protocol’ for treating autism that involved injecting children with the drug that is used to chemically castrate sex offenders at a cost of upwards of $70,000 per year.”
More broadly, Kennedy alleged a massive, multi-decade coverup by governments, non-profits, and private industry to hide the dangers of “thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative” used in some vaccines. Kennedy quotes Mark Blaxill, a vehement opponent of vaccines, who claims that the harm done by vaccines is “bigger than asbestos, bigger than tobacco, bigger than anything you’ve ever seen.”
Kennedy’s “proof” was the Simpsonwood conference, a gathering of experts to discuss the possible links between thimerosal in vaccines and autism. Kennedy “relied on the 286-page transcript of the Simpsonwood meeting to corroborate his allegations—and wherever the transcript diverged from the story he wanted to tell, he simply cut and pasted until things came out right.”
For example, Kennedy quoted developmental biologist and pediatrician Robert Brent as saying: “We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits… This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country.” The implication is Brent was acknowledging the link between thimerosal and autism, and explaining why it should be covered up. But Brent actually said he was concerned that “junk scientist[s]” would misuse data to falsely claim that thimerosal in vaccines is linked to autism at the behest of “plaintiff attorneys.”
The link between thimerosal vaccines and autism has been disproven again and again by scientific studies. But even if Kennedy was right (he’s not), thimerosal has not been used in vaccines (except certain flu vaccines) since 2001. So the alleged dangers of thimerosal are not a reason to avoid vaccines today.
On the Rogan podcast, Kennedy simply waved away this inconvenient fact and continued to argue that life-saving vaccines are dangerous. Kennedy told Rogan that it could be aluminum in vaccines that is causing problems. But an adult typically ingests “7 to 9 milligrams of aluminum per day” through foods, and a typical vaccine has less than half a milligram. Infants will be exposed to far more aluminum through their diet than vaccines. And there is no scientific evidence that aluminum is linked to autism or any of the other health concerns cited by Kennedy. Perhaps that’s why Kennedy hedged. “There’s lots of other toxins in the vaccines that, you know, could be responsible,” he said.
Ivermectin inanity
Kennedy also used his appearance on Rogan’s podcast to falsely claim that COVID-19 vaccines are extremely dangerous and that people who take COVID-19 vaccines are significantly more likely to die. The data shows the opposite is true. A comprehensive study by the Commonwealth Fund “estimates that, through November 2022, COVID-19 vaccines prevented more than 18.5 million US hospitalizations and 3.2 million deaths and saved the country $1.15 trillion.”
According to Kennedy, thousands of athletes have died on the playing field as a result of taking the COVID-19 vaccines. There is no evidence to support this, and a large Australian study found “no association between out-of-hospital cardiac arrests and COVID-19 vaccinations.”
Kennedy claimed that ivermectin, which can treat river blindness in humans and is also useful as a horse dewormer, can effectively treat COVID-19. These facts, according to Kennedy, were covered up so that pharmaceutical companies could make money selling vaccines. At one point, Kennedy alleged that Bill Gates purposely funded studies in which people would be given lethal doses of ivermectin to discredit the treatment.
But ivermectin was studied repeatedly as a potential treatment for COVID-19. And it has been found repeatedly to be totally ineffective.
Joe Rogan told Kennedy that he took ivermectin when he contracted COVID-19 and credited it for his quick recovery. But Rogan also received monoclonal antibodies, an FDA-approved treatment for COVID-19 associated with a faster reduction in viral load….
Kennedy is benefiting from a steady stream of elite support to boost his profile and anti-vaccine advocacy. Jack Dorsey, the co-founder and former CEO of Twitter, has formally endorsed Kennedy. Dorsey has avoided discussing Kennedy’s views on vaccines specifically but praised Kennedy for having an “edge” and “no fear in exploring topics that are a little bit controversial.” David Sacks, an investor and close associate of Elon Musk, and Chamath Palihapitiya, a prominent venture capitalist, hosted a high-dollar fundraiser for Kennedy this month.
Do any of Kennedy’s elite backers believe he has a real chance to be the next president? It’s unclear. But supporting Kennedy has become a trendy way to signal you have a rebellious streak. It’s a very dangerous game.

What is it with Americans that they will get fervently behind con men (Trump) and morons (Kennedy)?
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Claims, from A to Z, have been
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“[T]he lavish myths perpetuated by the state”?
What’s that supposed to mean, since the “state”, whatever it means to you, was fighting all this misinformation?
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Imagine the U.S. as a democracy where voters get to choose their leaders.
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Another name to add to the growing list of dangerously dumber than dumb fascists.
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Robert Kennedy Jr and Trump are 2 peas in a pod. Kennedy Jr is on his 3rd wife — and his 2nd wife committed suicide in unusual circumstances (hanging, not usual for women). He is a known philanderer who traded off his family’s name and is far more interested in publicity than in truthfulness. (One reason Kennedy has gotten so much attention for his anti-vax stance is his willingness to exaggerate, as oppose to more thoughtful people who can express criticism of vaccines without hyping their criticism).
He is also similar to Hunter Biden, a known drug addict. If our media wasn’t the hack media that they are, they would force Robert Kennedy to go on the record defending Hunter Biden. Given how his own drug use never resulted in any punishment.
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NYC public school parent I speculate here, but whatever else Trump and Kennedy have or don’t have in common, in terms of their attractiveness TO THE BASE, their both being famous is a serious glue that relates them . . . because fame is an element of “fan” worship which easily expands into group and cult worship; and all three are the hiding places of those who hate doing the hard work of thinking for themselves. CBK
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Excellent comments NYCpsp.
And I would add that Robert Kennedy Jr makes Hunter Biden look like a combination of a saint and Einstein. It’s not that Hunter is that good, it’s that RK Jr is such an absolute train wreck of human depravities and conspiracy theories.
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Not understanding why Kennedy should be “forced” to defend Hunter Biden. Nor why sexual peccadillos have any relevance to Kennedy’s vaccine misinformation.
Is this the National Enquirer?
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I’ve honestly never understood the obsession with RFK, or any of the Kennedys, for that matter. Teddy is the only one with a record of achievement, odd since he probably had the least expectations pinned on him. Those who want to canonize RFK intentionally overlook his working for Joe McCarthy, his constant belittling of LBJ, and he was one very late to the party on civil rights and gets just credit for reacting to MLK, Jr’s assassination. But it can’t erase what came before it. Or after it now that RFK, Jr has a public record that has little to do with assessing reality.
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Let’s not forget that Joe Rogan, a comedian and former hostvif a reality show, is allowed to give a forum to crackpots.
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He still sucked on News Radio.
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To truly understand why any serious talk of RFK Jr is hazardous to humanity’s health, I quote a paragraph of Siddhartha Mukherjee’s recently published Song of the Cell, finished at the beginning of the pandemic:
“Vaccination, more than any other form of medical intervention — more than antibiotics, or heart surgery, or any new drug — changed the face of human health. (A close contender might be safe childbirth.) Today there are vaccines against the deadliest of human pathogens: diphtheria, tetanus, mumps, measles, rubella. Vaccines have been devised to prevent infections by human papillomavirus (HPV), by far the major cause of cervical cancer. And we will soon encounter the triumphal discovery of not just one but several independent vaccines against SARS-COV2, the virus that released the Covid pandemic.”
Vaccines prevent disease. In plain English, the stop a disease before anyone could determine it existed, preventing countless savings in dollars from medical procedures that add up to multi-billions of years of cumulative saved life for humanity.
A new application of vaccines are largely unknown in the general public. Many clinical trials are currently being conducted in cancers to give certain vaccine formulations to patients who respond very well to treatments, the theory being the vaccine will make the remission stronger, more durable, and possible curative. This would not be for those who do not respond well to therapy, so it will not be a “last resort” option.
All talk about RFK Jr’s political future should have been over yesterday. Anyone who would support him is in another growing American political cult.
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He is notorious for making sweeping statements with very little attention to detail or nuance.
This came out today:
“RFK: “COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately…..COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”
“There are a few things worth clearing up here. First of all, there is some evidence that suggests Covid-19 effects people with specific genes differently. We also know that governments around the world have a history of making biologically engineered weapons. However, there is no evidence whatsoever that Covid-19 is an engineered bioweapon, and evidence for specific racial groups faring better than others is limited and incomplete. For example, East Asians and South Asians have genetic differences that have an effect on susceptibility to Covid-19. A study published in 2022 looking into SARS-CoV-2 genetic susceptibility within diverse ethnic backgrounds found:
“ “Consistent with our findings, Cao et al. (2020) showed that the East Asian populations have much higher allele frequencies in the eQTL variants associated with higher ACE2 expression, suggesting population differences in response to SARS-CoV-2. In a study analysing single-cell RNA sequencing data of human lungs of eight donors, Zhao et al. (2020) showed that ACE2 was more abundantly expressed in type II alveolar epithelial cells of a male Asian donor than both Black and White donors.
“East Asians had a higher frequency of upregulating variants and lower frequency of downregulating variants than other populations. The resultant higher levels of ACE2 in this population may lead to higher COVID-19 susceptibility. Further, Africans showed a genetic predisposition for lower expression levels of ACE2, implicating the opposite.
“Was Kennedy talking about East Asians or South Asians? What about Africans compared to African Americans? As is always the case, the devil is in the detail. And Kennedy always makes sure to avoid inconvenient data that contradicts whatever wild conspiracy theory he is currently obsessed with.
“Let’s examine the repellent antisemitic/Sinophobic connotations. Kennedy claimed the US and China are involved in developing bioweapons that target specific ethnic groups. He then says “there’s an argument” that Covid-19 was ethnically targeted to attack whites and blacks, while sparing Ashkenazi Jews and Asians. The implication is clear: whoever developed Covid-19 in a lab to kill millions of people wanted to specifically spare Jews and Asians.
“Saying the quiet part out loud: American Jews, who control the world, worked with the Communist Chinese to kill racial groups they don’t like because George Soros, Bill Gates, the World Economic Forum, the Rothschilds want to vaccinate you with microchips etc, etc.
“According to the presidential candidate, the controversy was actually the media’s fault because he was, er, correctly quoted?”
https://open.substack.com/pub/thebanter/p/fking-mondays-the-jewish-bioweapon?r=ottd6&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
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