Until recently, teachers in Ohio were allowed to carry weapons to school but they had to take the same 700 hours of instruction as peace officers in the state.
The New York Times reported that a new Ohio law allows teachers to carry weapons with no more than 24 hours of training.
Teachers and other school employees in Ohio will be able to carry firearms into school with a tiny fraction of the training that has been required since last year, after Gov. Mike DeWine signed a bill into law on Monday.
While employees have for years been allowed to carry guns on school grounds with the consent of the local school board, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled in 2021 that state law required them to first undergo the same basic peace officer training as law enforcement officials or security officers who carry firearms on campus — entailing more than 700 hours of instruction.
That ruling, Mr. DeWine said on Monday, had made it largely impractical for Ohio school districts to allow staffers to carry firearms.
Under the new law, a maximum of 24 hours of training will be enough for teachers to carry guns at school, though the local board will still need to give its approval. Twenty-eight states allow people other than security personnel to carry firearms on school grounds, with laws in nine of those states explicitly mentioning school employees, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Polls in recent years show that a majority of Americans, and a large majority of teachers, oppose the idea of arming teachers…
The governor emphasized that local school districts would still have the ability to prohibit firearms on school campuses. “This does not require any school to arm teachers or staff,” he said. “Every school will make its own decision.”
Last week, Justin Bibb, the mayor of Cleveland, said his city would continue to ban teachers and other non-security employees from carrying guns in schools.
Ohio’s new law, which moved suddenly and swiftly through the State Senate after the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, passed on June 1 along roughly partisan lines, with two Republicans joining all Democrats in voting against it. The bill passed the House in November, also on a nearly party-line vote; one Republican joined the Democrats in voting against it.
In a speech on the Senate floor, State Senator Niraj Antani, a Republican, dismissed the “crocodile tears” of lawmakers who saw the bill as dangerous, arguing that armed teachers would deter school shootings and calling the bill “probably the most important thing we have done to prevent a school shooter in Ohio.”
A sizable opposition against the bill had grown against it during its journey through the Legislature. Hundreds packed into committee rooms for the bill’s hearings, with all but two or three speakers testifying against it. The opposition included gun control groups as well as teachers, school board members, police union representatives and police chiefs.
Robert Meader, who recently retired as commander of the Columbus, Ohio, Division of Police, called the training requirement in the bill “woefully inadequate,” arguing that it would “cause harmful accidents and potentially even needless deaths.”
The bill is the second major gun bill that Mr. DeWine, a Republican, has signed into law this year. The first, which went into effect on Monday, eliminates the requirement for a license to carry a concealed handgun.
Imagine this: a school shooter enters the building armed with an automatic assault weapon. Will teachers have equally powerful weapons? How terrifying will school be if teachers are carrying assault weapons? Terrifying not only for students, but for teachers and administrators.

What happens when a teacher carrying a gun tries to break up a cafeteria brawl?
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The lunch ladies get killed.
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Absofrigginlutely, Duane.
But… aren’t they expendable, anyway?
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What’s a lunch lady or two in the cause of freedumb!?
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Red state republicans seem to have the curious set of views that (1) teachers are incompetent child “groomers” who (2) should be armed at all times.
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Good point. Arm the pedophiles! Even though they can’t be trusted!
Interesting that the GOP response to every massacre is: more guns.
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I would not want my children in a school where the teachers had on 24 hours of instruction on a weapon. That is like giving the keys to a car to a teenager who has never even been behind the steering wheel. It is amazing how stupid some legislators can be when it comes to weapons.
All they are interested in is passing some worthless bill so they can say they did something.
If I were a teacher I would refuse to care a weapon without proper training (700 hours) and might even not continuing teaching the Ohio school systems.
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Stupidity is probably the best business opportunity next to ‘crisis.’
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TFA required five weeks of training.
SFA (Shoot For America) has it down to 24 hours.
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Shoot for America
Shoot for America
SFA
Blunt the hysterical
Train for a day
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Talk about a vile despicable idea, armed teachers fits the bill. It should be hard to buy a gun and the semi-automatic death machines should be banned. But this is the USA, when it comes to guns we keep doing stupid, thanks to the GOP, which has embraced gun fetishism wholeheartedly, unapologetically and unquestioningly. Armed teachers with only 24 hours of training?! The same teachers that are constantly smeared, slimed, defamed and slandered by the right wing gun lovers. It’s something out of science fiction.
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OK–because what could possibly go wrong?
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lol
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Good afternoon Diane and everyone,
Why would any teacher open him or herself up to the responsibility and liability of this?
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That’s what I want to know. As Dr. Mercedes Schneider says, who is going to pay for liability here? Teachers themselves? NONE of these various arming teacher laws have any liability coverage for teachers (Utah and Idaho have had these laws for almost 20 years).
Police have immunity and now it is apparent they don’t even have a responsibility to actually protect the public, but what if, heaven forbid, an accident happens? What about in an actual shooter situation a teacher fires and misses? What if they don’t miss but don’t disable the suspect enough and he goes on killing? No one in power seems to have thought through these questions.
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The lawmakers don’t care because they are not the ones who will be liable
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Sadly true.
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No one in power seems to have thought through these questions.
Clearly, you do not understand how Education Reform works. You come up with some incredibly crazy-a__ idea, the more disruptive the better. You implement it with no public discussion, no trials, and no vetting. And then you wait twenty years and say, well, we need to stay the course and see what happens.
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This is all we need. Self-appointed O.K. Corral Gunslinger Heroes on our teaching staffs.
Think of the dumbest person you ever taught with. THAT GUY.
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Good morning, Panthers! If you ordered a yearbook and did not receive it in Homeroom, please bring your receipt to the front desk. The Drama Club meeting this evening is canceled. If any student has found Ms. Schmidt’s Glock19 or ammo, please return it to the office! And have a FUNTASTIC day!
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This ruling is reckless and insulting to professional educators. Ohio has lost its way and conscience. It is possible for so many things to go wrong in a school environment with guns on campus. The teachers union should urge teachers to not participate in this insanity.
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As I recall, the media (and perhaps the authorities) basically wanted to crucify that teacher in Uvalde who supposedly left the school door open. She did close it but it didn’t lock. If it had been found that she had accidentally or intentionally left the door open, what would have happened to her legally? And that’s just for leaving a door open. Can you imagine what would happen if a teacher accidentally shot an innocent staff member or student? What if the teacher DIDN’T use his/her weapon for certain reasons? Why in the world would any teacher open him or herself to this kind of liability? It’s beyond me. But, hey, teachers acquiesce to all kinds of stupid stuff. But this stupid stuff could actually land your keester in prison and/or leave you open to all kinds of legal trouble.
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Mamie: Yes, they did want to, somehow, hold the teacher accountable.
Just like in Oxford, MI, where the teacher SENT an extremely disturbed Ethan Crumbly TO THE OFFICE, where the PRINCIPAL SHOULD HVE CALLED THE POLICE, & the POLICE SHOULD HAVE SEARCHED THE BACKPACK.
Some parents are–& rightfully so–suing the school district, but, individually (principal, social worker (s) &…teacher).
Sorry, but the teacher did what he/she was SUPPOSED to do.
Although I can’t recall if she/he/they sent Ethan to the office alone. That would be a mistake, but that’s not when he took the gun out & started shooting.
One thing that really stuck out in the case of Uvalde is that the shooting/details of the shooting & lack of police response/restraining of parents so extremely disturbing is that the shooter’s name was hardly mentioned, & some people have asked me what it was, because they forgot it already. I believe this is the first time I’ve seen this happen.
(I’m an advocate of the org. “Don’t Say His Name,” when it was thought that people were copycat shooting because that would, in some way, give them infamy. I remember that Anderson Cooper had said, after one mass shooting (don’t remember which one of the many) that CNN pledged that it would NOT, in future, broadcast names of shooters. Of course, this pledge never stuck.
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I don’t say his name, the killer.
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24 hours of training!!!!!
The Fascist Republican Party (FRP) of today and anyone that still votes for the FRP has gone totally insane without a brain.
The Marines complete the initial training in three days. Day One is for zeroing and working out the point of aim on targets when using the Rifle Combat Optic or the new Squad Common Optic, Costa said. Day Two is for prequalification training and day three is for qualifying.
Before training starts, recruits have to dismantle and assemble the weapons blindfolded. The DI’s use stop watches to time us. It’s been too long. I don’t’ remember how long they gave us to do that. But I do remember the DIs gave us about 3 minutes in the morning to hit the bathrooms and get ready for the day: shave, shower, et al. dress and fall in at attention. I haven’t moved that fast in decades. The first time a lot of had blood streaming down our cheeks from all the cuts from rushing through shaving. We had to shave. Everyone had to save even if all we had was adolescent peach fuzz.
Then each year, Marines must go to the range and requalify. We also must take a physical each year to prove we are still in fighting condition. And, when stationed in the US, the military does not allow the troops to be armed with weapons and ammo unless they are an MP or on guard duty.
What about the FBI?
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Before the game gets started tonight, I’d like us all to take a moment of silence to remember Business Economics teacher Mr. Rambo Sheppardo, accidentally killed by responding officers who mistook him for the school shooter last Tuesday morning. All I can say is that we miss you, Mr. Sheppo, that these things happen, and such is the price of safe and secure schools.
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Sorry, Mr. Sheppo, you’re fired. The school district cannot afford to be associated with someone accused of such a heinous crime. Of course, you will lose any pension and/or health benefits, but we do wish you well and thank you for your service. Best of luck with your criminal and civil lawsuits.
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Haaa, you can’t fire Mr. Sheppo ’cause he’s dead.
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Would a teacher be able to shoot one of his/her own students? I could not. They may be called on to do so.
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When you carry a gun, you must be psychologically prepared to use it.
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a key understanding of why this entire “arm the teachers” debacle will never ever be useful
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Initial training is important, but it is probably more important for anyone carrying a gun in places like schools to spend serious time at a gun range with good instruction.
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Also recommended: course in legal defense strategies against lawsuits for negligent or accidentally harmful use by the teacher of his or her firearm or criminal use of that firearm by another after it is wrested or stolen from the teacher.
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Undoubtedly far more important for anyone thinking of carrying a gun in school to spend serious time at a junior high with good instruction because they are clearly missing some critical neuron connections necessary for higher thought.
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exactly
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Yup, that’s why we all became teachers! So we could go to shootin’ school as well!
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I just hope my son graduates without any blood-curdling blips. Sending one’s kids to school these days is a crap shoot.
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So sad & true, Greg, so sad & true. Glad my daughter is an adult, long out of school, & don’t see any grandkids in the near future/on the horizon.
But my niece teaches 1st Grade, my great-nephew in middle school, & there are all the other relatives & friends who have kids & grandkids to worry about.
It shouldn’t be like this.
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24 minits?
SomeDAM Good Guns offers 24 microsecant trainin
Beat that, Darlin or Darlene, or whoever the hell you are.
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Full name: Darlene Darlin, of the Harlan Darlins.
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The Harlan Darlins! Too good.
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Nobody in there rite mind takes training frum SkamDAM Guns. That’ll backfire on ye!
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What could possibly go wrong with this?
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Another genius move from the Republican Party!
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So teachers never suffer from mental illness. Can’t wait for the first to go “postal”. I don’t want anyone outside a battle field armed with a weapon of war. Especially around children. 1/3 +- of this country is too mentally unstable to vote no less have a weapon of war.
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Good point, Joel, good point. &, again, I bring up the damn dumb teacher who worked in our wonderful “school w/o walls” (actually, that never worked out so well, so the district put up dividers but, of course, since these weren’t closed off, real rooms, there were no doors, this no doors to lock. This teacher collected field trip 💰 in front of a 6th Grade homeroom in a school w/at least 85% on free lunch. She put it in her UNLOCKED desk drawer, & instead of taking the money to the office when she was on break & not in her room, she left it in the drawer. When no one was around, of course some kids stole it. (The school secretary said, “WHY didn’t she bring it to me? I lock up all collected 💰 in the school vault!”)*
Think about her having a gun. & maybe multiply that by 5 or 10 more like her.
*Guess we could arm that secretary.
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Exactly. Just substitute gun for money into this story and multiply it many thousands of times. Thank you for the reality check, RT!
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I cannot wait for the shoot-out between a teacher and a student. Now there is a subject to keep a teacher hovering around the copy machine.
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This will simply be a lesson to every student, Roy, that freedumb is not free!
Sure, there will be some cowardly teachers cowering behind the copy machines, but others will be out there in the hall, at the forefront of the daily fight to gain back our hallways and keep them free! -“Deranged Wayne” LaPee-eww
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These people are insane. Totally freaking nuts. The LAST thing we need is MORE guns in schools. Teachers packing will INEVITABLY lead to accidents and worse.
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Yep, Bob, as I said above.
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On what planet does a person who wants to teach children how to read, write and think also want to pack a gun to do so? Laws that allow and/or require teachers to carry a weapon will further reduce the number of teachers joining the profession. But I think that’s part of the plan.
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Attention teachers! As you doubtless know by now, Ms. Lingenberry was accidentally shot a week ago when she dropped in a stall of the first-floor teacher’s bathroom her purse with the loaded pistol in it. Fortunately, she was shot in the head, which was largely empty, so she is recovering nicely. Please stop by the office during your prep period today to sign Ms. Lingonberry’s Get Well Card. And remember our Dumb Luck Academy Motto: Molon labe!
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It’s a way to blame teachers for students dying. The Right can say- We told them to bring a gun to protect the students. It’s the teachers fault that students are dead.
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Mary, you are right. The mainstream GOP is undemocratic, vicious,and ready to defend Liar Trump with their guns.
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Mary, You are totally correct. Teachers are blamed for almost everything with it comes to the students: If the students have not learned discipline then it is the teachers’ fault regardless of the fact that discipline should be taught at home first and reinforced in the schools. If students can’t seem to read, write, and do math it is all the teachers’ regardless of the fact that the students do try to learn even basic read, writing or math and the parents don’t even try to make their kids do their work. Teachers are blamed for the way kids dress, talk, walk, get into fights, skip classes, etc., etc., etc.
Now arm the teachers and they will be blamed for whatever deaths are caused in the school.
Sometimes it is a loosing battle. It is amazing that so many teachers continue to try year after year after year to make successful citizens out of some of the kids that walk through the front doors of schools ill prepared by their parents and society for them to learn.
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Ah, right, Ms. Holmes. This is something we have overlooked blaming teachers for and a great fix. Now, we can blame teachers for everything going forward.
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Packing Teachers in Ohio?
Teachers should pack
And leave the state
Never look back
It’s not too late
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Haaaa!!!
Exactly, SomeDAM!!!
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Absolutely right, Mary Holmes.
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