For the past quarter-century, American policymakers have been laser-focused on raising test scores. They assumed that higher test scores equals better education equals better economy. The cost of all this testing was billions of dollars, which would have been better spent on reducing class sizes, raising teachers’ salaries, and updating schools.
From No Child Left Behind to Race to the Top to the Every Student Succeeds Act of 2015, federal policy has made standardized test scores the most consequential measure of all schooling. Every release of scores by the National Assessment of Educational Progress produces a flurry of articles with dire predictions about the future (“a Sputnik Moment!) or the discovery of a miracle (e.g. the Texas/Florida/Mississippi 4th grade reading miracle, which strangely disappears by the 8th grade).
But an occasional outbreak of wisdom cautions us that we are looking for “success” in the wrong place.
Paul Bonner is a retired educator. He posted the following comment on the blog.
My first personal encounter with NAEP was around 2005. I was an eighth grade assistant principal facilitating the process between my staff and the NAEP testing officials who were to give the test. As I monitored the hall during the testing of selected random students, it struck me how disinterested our students were in performing on the assessment. My school at the time was a high performing magnet program with a highly motivated student body. I assumed, incorrectly, that due to the competitive attitudes of our students that they would want to perform well, as I had with standardized assessments in the 1970s no matter what it meant concerning my academic standing. What I learned in this first encounter was that students were already fed up with standardized tests particularly if it had no bearing on their academic standing. These students made a habit of blowing away all of the state tests and for them NAEP was a waste of time. The idea of NAEP as a report card might be significant if students were not already wasting three weeks of their year with state and district tests. In other words, no student benefit so why bother. How does this give us an accurate read on student capacity? Second, none of the standardized assessments, international, national, state, or local have shown meaningful movement in student performance over the decades. A few points either way does not reveal any real change in instructional efficacy or evidence of greater learning opportunities for students no matter their circumstances. The realities remain the same. Students prepared for schooling or provided significant instructional and experiential resources perform well. Those who do not have such privilege do not. Policy makers and educational leaders are simply fooling themselves when denying that fact. Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs is telling in this regard. Piddling about a few point improvement in a NAEP test for fourth graders isn’t going to change the fact that Mississippi and other poor states provide far less opportunity for their students and poorer outcomes than wealthier states wiling to put more resources in the classroom. Testing has become a waste of time and money that could be better used elsewhere.

It is inconceivable that the purveyors of testing would not know that this would happen. Indeed, when testing students began, the State of Tennessee instituted negative consequences for students who did not try in order to motivate them to take the tests seriously, mostly upon the request of teachers, who were observing the phenomenon Bonner describes here. So testing people have known all along that their results were tainted by the process. Yet they persist. Why?
The answer to this question must be that the purveyors of testing did not, and do not have educational improvement in mind. The history of the destroy schools movement suggests malevolent intent.
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Why???
$$$$$$
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“Second, none of the standardized assessments, international, national, state, or local have shown meaningful movement in student performance over the decades.”
I’m obviously not this site’s psychometric test expert R. Shepard, but I know enough to say that the reason for that is that all the questions are pre-selected so that the answers will fall into a normal curve. Every iteration of the test is meant to result in a normal curve distribution of answers hence very little change from test to test. (another of the psychometric fudges, as Wilson calls them, that serve as an indicator of invalidity)
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The state tests are criterion-referenced rather than norm-referenced tests, though the results, like the results of any test, can be converted to standard scores. On a criterion-referenced test, every student could achieve a Level 4 (exceeds proficiency) by hitting a set mark or higher than that mark.
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Is it true of all state tests (that they are not norm referenced)?
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I do not know if it is true of ALL state tests. For example, if a state requires students to take the Iowa Test of Basic Skills, that is a norm-referenced test. But the whole concept behind the state tests is to determine whether kids have absolutely met a particular cutoff with regard to proficiency on standards. So, the criterion for evaluation is have you met the standard, yes or no, rather than how did you fare compared to a norm reference group.
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So, the state ELA and Math tests are criterion-referenced tests, but again, any test can after the fact have its scores converted to scaled scores that will give you a bell curve and a relative position on that curve rather than an absolute attainment (percentage correct, for example).
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Bob knows far more about the construction of standardized tests than I do, but my understanding (after 7 years on the federal testing board for NAEP) is that standardized tests are typically norm-referenced. Even those that are supposed to be criterion-referenced tend to turn into norm-referenced.
A drivers’ test would always be criterion referenced. That’s why almost everyone qualifies for a driver’s license.
Stanndardized tests are designed so that there are very easy questions that almost everyone gets right and hard questions that very free get right.
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Yes. And another malevolent result of the testing regime was that some teachers quit or retired earlier than planned because they were fed up with what was happening–and happening because of both major political parties.
I was one of those teachers who could retire, and did, rather than take part in the farce. I wasn’t surprised that public-school enemies or fools would take this destructive course. I was surprised that so many seemingly intelligent and well-intentioned educators and supporters bought into it.
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The same thing happened, Jack, in educational publishing. This is a story that is NEVER written about, and it is one of the extraordinarily negative consequences of the Gates-and-Coleman Test and Punish Occupation of our educational system that a) the public doesn’t know about and b) Gates, Coleman, and other idiots behind this system do not understand. It’s an extremely important story, but most people don’t know about it because it’s a little complicated and flies over the heads of journalists and certainly of politicians and of many education professionals and pundits.
In the old days, prior to the Common Core, every state (and many districts) had its own “standards.” These were something of a joke in the educational publishing industry (though also a headache) because every time a publisher came out with a new textbook series, he or she correlated it to every one of those sets of standards and issued a document describing the correlation. And guess what? Because the “standards” were so broad, so vague, EVERY PRODUCT FROM EVERY PUBLISHER CORRELATED PERFECTLY TO EVERY SET OF “STANDARDS.” ROFL.
So, prior to the Common Core, educational publishers would create a textbook program based upon the content of the subject, divided into coherent units that treated like topics together and built one upon the other.
When the Common Core was introduced, however, suddenly there was ONE set of standards for almost every state, and the tests of these standards–the state tests–were very high stakes. So, publishers rushed to change their textbooks so that they TAUGHT TO THE STANDARDS. So, in the past, a publisher of a literature textbook for 7th graders might divide it into coherent units on the elements of poetry, the elements of the short story, the elements of drama, and so on. But after the Common Core and its associated high-stakes tests, publishers began starting their development process not by making an outline for a text with coherent units to present the whole of the subject in a reasonable way. Rather, they would start with a spreadsheet containing the list of standards in column 1 and then, in the other columns, the place where the “standard” was “covered.” This is what I came to call the “Monty Python and Now for Something Completely Different” approach to textbook development. GONE WAS ALL CURRICULAR AND PEDAGOGICAL COHERENCE. Everything was driving by the so-called “standards,” and the standards were always incredibly broad and vague (e.g., The student will be able to make inferences from text). So, we got textbooks and online materials that were based on providing individual exercises and activities that dealt with individual “standards,” and the whole idea of curricular and pedagogical coherence went out the window.
Imagine that you decided to teach golfing by making a list of “golf skills” and teaching them at random.
holding a long putter
cleaning and maintaining a golf bag
layers of a golf ball
types of grasses used on greens
birthdays of golf superstars
and so on. And then proceeded to teach these, one after another, in isolated exercises on each “standards” topic. NO COHERENCE.
Educational publishers even took to dissecting old textbooks and mining them to create big databases of instruction, activities and exercises keyed to individual standards (e.g., this is a layers of a golf ball exercise) and then doing preliminary development of textbook units by simply picking the standards and spewing out instruction, activities, and exercises related to each. A writer or editor for a part of a new textbook would get a file with this random garbage spewed out into it from the database and then would be tasked with piecing it together. This was done to save the development costs incurred by having an actual human expert think through what should be taught and assessed in what order.
Now, AS A RESULT OF THIS, a large percentage of textbook industry veterans ended up quitting in disgust–many of them incredibly knowledgeable and skilled people and friends and colleagues of mine.
And Gates and Coleman and Bush and Duncan and all the other “Reformers” have no freaking clue what devastation they have wrought.
NB: The situation isn’t as dire with Math texts as with English texts, but that’s a different long story.
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The worst part may be that the corporate privatizers my be the ones who learned “how not to be seen.”
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Yes. I think the struggle here goes back at least to the progressive era, which included John Dewey and lot of others, trying to make education more relevant and useful, especially to “ordinary” kids, not just college bound upper middle class kids. I remember in the ’50’s the attacks calling Dewey’s work “basket weaving.” Lot jokes about that. Then a book, “Why Johnny Can’t Read,” etc. The right-wingers made a big deal about that. Submarine man, Rickover, also fussed about our poor math teaching, etc. Of course, some or much of it was motivated by pro-big business folks, just trying to get the workers out of school and back to the shop floors. Etc.
Keep up your good work,
Jack
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Our misplaced obsession with test scores correlates with America’s interest in turning everything into a competition like our capitalistic economic system. Test scores do not bring home the bacon, and they do not give teachers useful information. They are usually used to rate, rank and sometimes punish students, schools and teachers, but once again this is a misuse of the data.
The testing industry hires lobbyists to keep the money flowing so testing becomes the focus of our education system despite its inherent uselessness. A better indicator of future academic success is a student’s GPA. How hard students apply themselves is a better predictor of success in college than standardized tests.
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It’s like the stupid polls that appear in online fora/forums like Quora: Who was the greatest guitarist who ever lived? LOL. Idiots think like that.
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Dear Diane, Everyone,
It is interesting that this article, blog posting appears today, for yesterday, December 18, 2023, I watched this short 3-minute video:
Diane Ravitch on Problems with Common Core Standards
You are reading a comment from a person that has the worst case of dyslexia. As a child my mother (her husband, my father was killed in a horrific accident when I was 5) and I were told by paid professionals and Catholic elementary teachers that I was a retard, and I wouldn’t amount to much in life.
I’m from Canada and are teaching operating system is a little different that found in the United States and not so much emphasis on test scores, but we have tests that go along with other aspects that makes up a final score and grade for that school year.
I struggled in elementary school. I write about all of it in my article titled: “School’s Out.” As you read, you’ll find it expands and applies to each one of you.
School’s Out?:
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/school-s-out
In the article I mentioned I started 6 weeks into the year as they wanted to hold me back another year at the end of grade 7. But stated to my mom and me will put him into grade 8 this fall and monitor him in the first six weeks.
I was given two tests in two different subjects, and I scored 4 percent on one and 5 percent in another. Completely embarrassing to one’s soul.
And I was shipped off to that special school that you read about.
Now I receive responses like this one:
Dear Miles,
I am an Evangelist and media personality here in Nairobi, Kenya. I share inspirational stories on the radio and utilize them during my many sermons. As of late, I have been sharing what I receive from you. You are such an inspiration. The inspirations you post on the internet have given millions of my listeners hope. Long live and may God bless you.
Regards,
Evangelist Lucy Wa Ngunjiri
https://www.facebook.com/Evangelist-Lucy-Wa-Ngunjiri-Official-417910054887639
Diane, everyone, my brain shuts down when I’m given a test. It goes into panic mode. It’s just how its wired. It was wired that way in those grade 7 tests.
My second love, from birth, my mother was my first love her father worked for the post office, and they could get me a job, a career within the Canada Postal system. I just had to pass a test. I’m sure the father learned of my score and planted the seed within her daughter than Miles has a good heart, but he is a retard, or at least very slow and will have a very hard time providing for you. You better look at other options. And she did. She left me for another man and was married the following year. The man has his own air strip (runway) north of the city of Saskatoon here in Canada.
No matter the responses I receive on my good deeds and good doings in the world there is always a part of me that feels I don’t score well in life.
I’m now 60 years of age and a few years ago I was phoned and asked if I’d take part in a study on aging over the phone and I agreed. And it went well until they started giving me a test and I reverted back to 1983, back to my youth. I’m sure the person on the other end though I’m dealing with a complete moron.
For me I found it interesting. That part of my brain has developed but when it is tested it fails.
And if my life was put to a test, or based to a test certainly the responses, I receive to my brain wouldn’t occur.
I’m lucky because I know there are many that are placed into a dark box and have far different lives and we really never learn of their existence.
Perhaps so many of those lives go on to become headline news, stats of drug overdoses, alcohol use, domestic violence, sexual abuse.
Perhaps those that create these tests a part of their own brain hasn’t been fully developed.
I thank you for reading, learning more about my life. My hope with this is those that read it becomes a tool for betterment.
And if you’re interested in reading more, I have included Parenting License.
Gary Braithwaite writes about the article: “I am incredibly proud of you and your willingness to take a stand to help usher in a new consciousness. To use your life for the betterment of humanity. It takes heart and real courage. Radical ideas, the fruit not immediately seen. But so, it is for all who take on shifting the consciousness of humanity.”
Parenting License
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/parenting-license
And please share the articles (URLs) for that is why they were created.
Happy holidays to you. Let us throw love around like confetti.
R.I.P. (Rest in Paradise) Richard Ravitch
As always, love is the way,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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As bad as our current generalization of assessment has become, it is even worse that those tests have buried the effective use of assessment to address specific deficits. I have seen good reading specialists use such instruments to successfully identify and instruct reading issues such as dyslexia. However, the “One Best System” culture of education policy then takes those assessments and tries to use those specific assessments to address other unrelated deficits thus reducing the purpose and efficacy of that model. I too struggled as an early reader and was held back in second grade. I was fortunate that adults were willing to struggle with me as they identified my rendering skills and used my artistic talent to get me to academic success. It takes a “village” of educators, student peers, and mentors of all sorts to get a child to success. Mechanistic approaches to learning such as technology tools driven by inadequate testing instruments results in further loss of student opportunity. Thank you for your story. It’s important that we learn from this.
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I have long been an advocate of diagnostic tests and formative tests.
One of the foremost advocates of formative versus summative testing in our country, alas, threw all his principles out the window when the river of green started flowing from Redmond to support the Common Core and its testing. This person has since passed, and I have not interest in naming him. But I was horrified, aghast, and angry. I ended up leaving the industry myself because of this emphasis on the puerile Gates/Coleman “standards” and the invalid tests associated with those, and I lost work because of my advocacy against them. But I can look myself in the mirror.
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I didn’t speak until I was two. Nineteen years later, I got a perfect score on the GRE Verbal. People are on differing developmental schedules. One of the many tragedies of the standards-and-testing occupation of our schools is the failure to recognize that kids are on differing schedules AND that a diverse, pluralistic economy needs diversely prepared students, not ones stamped to some mold.
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It really saddens and frustrates me that Gates has no idea whatsoever how much damage he has done. He’s oblivious to how destructive his policies have been on the ground.
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Dear Paul Bonner,
First, I am so appreciative being able to now read your beautifully written letter but also to response to it. And I’m so thankful for your time (and everyone’s) for reading and learning more about my life.
As stated, I hope the content prepared and written is shared. Used. For my whole hope is World Peace. That each individual’s life finds peace. Finds happiness. That we all come together to create one soul sharing community. Peace on Earth.
That we refrain from calling others idiots. For in doing this we lesson ourselves and bring ourselves to this very level.
Each of us as the ability to understand another. To love another.
We never bash another life. For doing this we are simply bashing our own self.
A deeper understanding of all life has to form.
And we have the ability to do so.
Those that make bashing comments they themselves are hurting. It is a form of crying out. A form of wanting to be liked, needed, respected and loved.
There aren’t two parties. Two sides.
Two brought together by One.
Everyone understand?
There aren’t two sides like there isn’t two loves. There is just one love.
It is time that we start loving one another, no matter of race, gender, national origin, religion, physical or mental disability. It is time that we stop all this discrimination. It is time that we build a place where we are all equal. It is time that we put down our firearms and open up our loving arms.
R.I.P. (Rest in Paradise) Richard Ravitch
Peace on Earth.
Peace be with you.
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Diane, everyone, my brain shuts down when I’m given a test. It goes into panic mode.
So sorry, Mr. Yohnke, that you were subjected to this abuse. Clearly, you are a man of great skill, and our schools too often do not capitalize on the unique genius of kids who don’t fit their mold.
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Dear Mr. Bob Shepherd,
Thank you for your understanding and beautiful reply for I’m so appreciative of it and your time.
Yes, I was abused in my youth but sadly each and every one of us are being abused by others each and every day.
If that be in traffic and road rage. If that being someone not liking our option. And we all must stop attacking each other for this brings are own spirit down. We abuse our own self when we respond in this fashion.
And we have the ability to do this to rise to another plane.
We must stop abusing ourselves and abusing others.
Peace on Earth.
Peace be with you, Mr. Shepherd. Peace be with everyone reading.
R.I.P. (Rest in Paradise) Richard Ravitch
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Awful what you were subjected to. Great that you have risen above it. Happy holidays to you and yours, Miles. Peace and love.
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Thank you, Bob! I wish you and your extended circle of friends and family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
To all reading, be grateful you can celebrate Christmas for Richard Ravitch is not physically with us this Christmas. Did he know this time last year that he was about to experience his last physical Christmas?
And we use that vision to empower our own self. Our own life. That we savor life.
There is a group of individuals that simply can’t take part in this form because either they can’t read and write, or they don’t take part as they see their views and thoughts as inferior as they’ve been told by others that they are, and they feel ashamed by their own mind and existence.
There are those that we’re with us this time last Christmas and celebrated Christmas and started the New Year with new goals and a vision for themselves until they found themselves looking down a barrel of a gun and they aren’t with us this Christmas.
There are those that had a wonderful Christmas and too a Happy New Year only to be sexually assaulted in 2023 and now are having a very hard time coping this holiday season.
And so, we champion a better way for all. Peace for all. That is, you. That is me.
Let us all rally to be the power of one. The power of One.
There are not many ways, just one way. There isn’t many loves, just one love.
God’s one love.
I’m often met with resistance when I mention God. I certainty can understand why individuals would doubt Him.
Most wars are based on religious beliefs. Holy wars or Just wars. Oxymorons. Sounds laughable in ways. Yet, it appears no one is understanding the joke. To commit such heinous acts of violence in the name of God demonstrates a lack of belief in and fear of God. How are His teachings honored when suicide bombers blow up innocent, men, women and children? These are the actions of lost souls and non-believers.
And we have the Catholic church. You may have experienced the skit where a police officer pulled over a vehicle and asked the driver if he was part of a gang. The driver replied to the police officer that he grew up Roman Catholic.
God and the Devil were walking down the street and God looked at the Devil and said: “I think I should start a religion.” The Devil looked at God and said: “Let me organize that for you.”
All kidding aside we think of the land that most of you and me rest our feet on. Before the white person came and claimed it for itself was indigenous people that were here for thousands and thousands of years and they weren’t interested in building skyscrapers, they lived simply from the land most of us are on.
This holiday season I would like for all of you to watch this 53-minute on John Trudell for it relates to you and all those you love.
John Trudell
If you ever find yourself referring to the United States as a Superpower please refrain. There is a lot of ‘ego’ in that. A lot of boasting. People often say it with a lot of pride. Like it’s something. Like they are something even stating it.
There is only one Superpower and that is God.
Those that don’t believe in Him often ask me for proof. And I reply: “You’re the proof. You’re a miracle. Miracles do happen. You’re the living proof.”
Each and every one of us are. There are just certain aspects you can’t explain and nor do you need to but just enjoyed.
You can read this because you have vision. After reading, please go to a mirror and examine your eyes. Just look at all the complexities of them.
Find a butterfly to look at. Or watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhwpbgAE8tA
You are awe and wonder.
If you are interested in reading more that relates to this reply I include three materials:
Hail Mary Soap:
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/hail-mary-soap
Building Happiness:
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/building-happiness
The Grey Owl Challenge:
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/the-grey-owl-challenge-1
Again, I wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Let us all throw love around like confetti.
And with that I include this video:
R.I.P. (Rest in Paradise) Richard Ravitch
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Dear Miles,
Part I– I so relate to your post. Two of my three siblings inherited our dad’s profound dyslexia. The brother was 7 yrs older than the sister [& about the same amount older than you]. In his day dyslexia was not yet in common parlance, nor understood/ addressed in schools. Mom tried to get him held back in 3rd grade to work on reading, but the soon-to-become universal mantra not to hold back had already arrived in our progressive-ed collegetown-influenced district. He ended up having to repeat 9th grade, & never really graduated. Fortunately he is a hi-intelligence & preternaturally-talented tradesman, also unusually socially able, so has done well in life. [And luckily after several failed relationships for both, reunited with his middle-school flame at age 30– her parents had tossed him out of their dghtr’s life at age 14 but were relieved & delighted to have him as SIL 15 yrs later ;-)].
Just 7 yrs after bro was in school, SpEd/ dyslexia supports had arrived in the district early [here the prog-ed district worked for the family]. My sis’s dyslexia was recognized in 7th gr & mitigated with cutting-edge support. She ended up an award-winning SpEd teacher, & today is the principal of the hischool that gave her much SpEd support. This is not a common story, because the caliber of SpEd support she received was unusual even then, and access to it has greatly diminished in subsequent decades due to underfunding.
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Dear bethree5 j, (I hope you tell me your name),
I’m kind of in a rush here but I felt I needed to quickly reply for when you can’t read and write for so long and someone writes to you. When someone thinks about you-you never take that for granted.
Your words with your family are like a mirror to my own life.
I have two older brothers. 9 and 11 years older and both really smart (and successful).
Our father was tragically killed when they were 16, 14 and I was 5. My mom was 36. She never dated after that. Her love was for her three boys.
In grade one they first thought I was blocking with the loss of my father. They thought perhaps I needed glasses that I couldn’t read the board. Mom said: “No one in the family wears glasses but will get his tested.” Sure enough, I needed glasses. But that didn’t work. I was still a retard. I was shipped around for three years with them trying to figure out why I was such a tool. A moron. A retard.
I was held back in grade three, but I could have been held back each and every year. They just pushed me through.
It was brutal. So painful. So shameful. I walked to school with my head so low that I didn’t want cars to spot me or anyone. I was so embarrassed by my own existence. I dreaded what was going to happen in school for each and every day they’d jump on me. Laugh at me. Not just the students, but the teachers. In fact, the teachers were the worst. Just so cruel!
Here is one article. And just one event.
Teach Our Children Well
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/teach-our-children-well
And here is my article: “School’s Out” in case you haven’t read it. It is what occurred next and the start of my change.
School’s Out?
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/school-s-out
And I’ll leave you with these materials as they are my dad and mom related, but you’ll see they are vehicles to tell far more that applies to all of us.
Soul Mining
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/soul-mining
Mother of Strength and Make Me an Instrument of Thy Peace
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/strength
Bridget Rose Yohnke
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/bridget-rose-yohnke
The Meaning of Thanksgiving
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/thanksgiving
I am just so grateful for your words. Your life. You please let your siblings know of my existence for I’m grateful for their existence.
Please share my writings for my purpose is World Peace. When you read more at my website it is loaded with care and love for all people.
And please read the nine pages of testimonials. Yes, often kind words towards me, but so many have their own life lessons within them that apply to all people. https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/testimonials
Again, thank you. Let’s throw love around like confetti!
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Ginny, what a story!
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Dear Bethree5, Diane, everyone,
You’ve read about my past and a woman that left me for another man and the following year she married him.
Below is her and my story.
The Kids Are Alright
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/the-kids-are-alright
This article: “Numbers and Meanings” is how my life would unfold and bring us to present day. And like all my materials they are just vehicles to the big test. The test of life. And how are we all scoring in the really important test. This test of life.
God willing I’ll write to you all later this last 23 in the year 23 and I write to you all from an apartment I’ve lived in for over 31 years that was given the number 23.
Numbers and Meanings
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/numbers-and-meanings
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Dear Diane, everyone reading this beautiful blog,
The Test of Life
Seen the beginning of time our Creator presented a test for all of us and how do you think we have all scored?
We have all scored a big F, this includes me, for each and every day I fail to unite His children to live as one people. To live as one soul sharing community. I keep failing and failing and failing to show others it’s not your income, it’s what we become. That we become kind and compassionate towards all people.
I don’t mean to spOIL your holiday’s but really take a good look at your behavior for I too will look at my own.
I read so many comments on this blog that are a line, a remark that is nothing short of childish and it breaks my heart. When I read them, I know that individual is hurting for I myself have been at that stage at a certain time in life.
The test in life is we are all scoring one big 0. Look what we are doing to our planet with all of our spOILed behavior of possessions.
We often become defensive, perhaps you are currently reading my words and have that feeling now towards me. That: “How dare you. Who do you think you are? For I’m just fine.”
But none of us are fine. Look at how we live. It is sheer madness. Listen to your news. Sheer madness. We are not pasting the important test. The life test and we all need to completely change.
I’d not only like for you to read these three materials and share them for I don’t want to fail any longer. I don’t want to let down our Creator any longer.
Can we come together?
It is time for us all to get a passing grade.
The Hope Depot
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/the-hope-depot
Hail Mary Soap
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/hail-mary-soap
The Grey Owl Challenge
https://salmonstudio.wixsite.com/yohnke/post/the-grey-owl-challenge-1
At the bottom of that “The Grey Owl Challenge” page are very important videos for all of you to watch. Each one was sent to me by Richard Charvet.
An update on Richard Charvet’s health is that he was peeing blood, but turns out not to be cancer, but rather, an E. coli infection that is very strong, but on the mend. The reason for not being able to move his right arm is he has a real problem with his rotator cuff.
Diane, your words meant so much to the life of Richard Charvet for he has the utmost respect for your life.
Everyone, I love you and don’t mean to hurt or harm you in anyway.
Richard Ravitch’s obituary made the front of the NY Times. I want each of you to appear there as well on how you created World Peace. Each one of us can create World Peace.
The system is wrong I often hear. Well, we build that very system. And we all can change that very system.
Racism: The Indigenous. The Blacks. The Jews. The Gays. Whom do you hate? When one hates their fellow human, they hate themselves. We are all one people. We are all our Creator’s people. We must love one another. We must love ourselves.
Defensiveness is a pandemic.
We were social distancing long before Covid-19.
In fact, we’ve likely been social distancing since the beginning of time.
We are defensive towards others. It’s apparent in our conversations and lack of conversation. Often times, we’ll get our backs up towards the person or people we are with. We become defensive towards them to somehow protect ourselves from our past hurt. This robs us of our spirit and of being in the moment, a beautiful moment with another life, another person of our Creator. We must release our hurt to be present and to mindfully seize the moment we are in now.
Peace. Peace be with you.
We say it, but do we think about what we’re saying in that context?
Happy Birthday. Happy New Year.
Do we actually give thought to what we’re expressing? And yet, happy is all any of us wants to be.
Each and every one of us just wants to be happy.
Therefore, it is essential for us to undo our defensiveness towards each other. To look within and understand why it is there. To stop being defensive towards others for our own peace. If we can achieve this, World Peace will prevail.
Peace be with you.
With much love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
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Thank you, Miles. I am happy to hear that Richard Charvet has a curable ailment. Peace be with you.
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Dear Miles [Part II],
You well describe the testing anxiety borne of repeated testing failures early on due to LD(‘s)– someone who could benefit from double-time allowed due to reading et al LD’s, which is not foolproof as it doesn’t really address all the potential issues.
Even back in Stone Age when this early boomer was in K-12, the “problem” of how one responded to testing was out there and known. In our collegetown midschools/ hischool, the brainiacs/ “accelerated kids” were as prestigious as the jocks and cheerleaders, so we gossiped about such things. We were well aware of certain [maybe 1 in 25] kids at opposite ends of the testing spectrum. There were those who could ace any test without studying, or even doing much hw. [Not atypically, crashed & burned in college]. And there were those who couldn’t pass a test worth beans, yet were still in the “accelerated” track [what? she only got 300s/400s on SAT & was admitted to an Ivy?!].
I like to use this example from my eldest son, who had learning issues called ADD when young, but were ultimately connected to differences due to mental disease [bipolar]. He was someone whose obvious hi-IQ was not reflected in ability to produce hw [took ages] nor in test scores. In 8th grade he couldn’t complete [write out all the stages of] a quadratic equation for the life of him. This math-poor mom was no help, but I asked him “what is a quadratic equation”? He thought for a moment, then delivered a cogent response that I could grasp, explaining not only what they were, and a sketch of how to solve them– but what they were good for– the practical, IRL applications. Tho unrecognized by school measures, he had a good math brain, which served him well in computer apps. (Would have been a good candidate for oral exams.)
As you can imagine, the over-emphasis on frequent hi-stakes testing in the last 22 yrs has exacerbated this whole issue.
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Twenty eight years as a high school teacher. I spent five years on our school’s data team. My principal asked me to be on the team to throw cold water on test scores that our central office treated as gospel.
As noted in the article, kids know there are no consequences for poor performance on the state-wide tests. So they don’t try. They merely darken in patterns or images into the bubbles and nap until the next section. I saw this pretty frequently.
What’s interesting to me is that test scores in NCLB and RTTT were designed to demonstrate that public schools were awful. That way they could justify charters and choice. This was the currency of “reformers.” But public schools ended up doing at least as well as charters and voucher schools in large sample sizes. (Unless, of course, we’re talking CREDO with its strange virtual twin measures.)
Reformers then cherry-picked the stats. But slowly, the public school defenders started to identify that charters and vouchers don’t move the needle at all. Gradually, “reformers” stopped emphasizing test scores because they were failing at winning a battle they thought they could easily win.
Note how very few red state governments pass vouchers because it will lead to better outcomes. That result has not come to fruition. Now, it’s just about “freedom.”
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I’ve had some interesting conversations with people on social media around test scores. Some privileged families who attended well-funded schools somehow got wind of some random test score information off of Great Schools which showed that the scores at their own neighborhood schools had dropped for some reason, causing quite the panic. (I figured out why, but won’t get into all the details here). They had no sense of what a norm-referenced test does, and I liked to use the analogy of testing with a population of Nobel Prize winners. Even that group would fail 40% of the time on a norm referenced test. I mean, does that make any sense at all? It’s like moving the Titanic, but I think some of them actually listened. Maybe.
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Most parents don’t have any understanding of the testing industry….AT ALL. I have no background in stats, but I remember being taught basic higher math that covered some stats and I know how a bell curve works (sort of). Parents don’t know about “cut scores” and who gets to set those scores in order to get the desired bell curve. Parents are just worried that their kids won’t “get ahead” or make it into the “right” college and it’s why they will turn themselves inside out over stupid test scores that mean absolutely nothing.
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I wouldn’t trust the Great Schools data. The algorithm is designed to sell homes to white families in affluent neighborhoods. Plenty of students do very well in diverse schools that do not get the top ratings from Great Schools.
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I moved my kids precisely so that they would be in more diverse schools.
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Absolutely, that’s one of the first things I brought up about Great Schools. It is really amazing that so many people don’t trust themselves and instead choose to accept the validity of all this made-up, misused, weaponized data, because, you know, data…
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It would be amusing if it weren’t so tragic that these morons who claim to be all about the data completely ignore the fact that decades of their test-driven “reform” have resulted in no statistically significant increases in test scores, THEIR preferred means of judging improvement or decline. That they ignore THIS DATA should give us pause; it should clue us in that these people are full of bullshit.
They have ruined this perfectly respectable word, data, by misusing it to refer to the invalid numerical results of their invalid tests on their ludicrous, overly broad, vague, unscientific, backward, received, unimaginative, almost entirely content-free (in ELA) “standards.”
Gates had dreams of creating one set of national standards so that there could be identical tests based on them, information from which would be fed into HIS massive national gradebook, kept by HIS company, along with information from all the online computer instructional materials used to prepare kids to take those tests. And who would have a monopoly on the online gradebook? Who would decide who could play and who couldn’t? Who would reap the pay-to-play rewards of this scheme? Well, Gates’s company, which would become the default, monopolistic gatekeeper of instructional materials.
Sound like any other business model you’ve heard of? Making a killing off being the defacto gatekeeper?
Fortunately, InBloom was killed in its cradle. Weirdly, it was killed because of student privacy concerns, but this was a FAR BIGGER ISSUE–the creation of a monopolistic national curriculum and instruction bottleneck/gatekeeper.
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Well said, Bob. Gates is like DeSantis in that he wants everything his way. DeSantis uses his office, and Gates his wealth.
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Thank you, Paul, for a great piece.
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Test scores measure child poverty without doing anything to address the learning problems caused by growing up poor.
Test scores are used to punish professional public school teachers, punish public schools, bad mouth teachers labor unions, punish public school districts BUT not publicly funded charter and voucher schools.
Test scores measure learning disabilities without doing anything to deal with the special needs those children have when it comes to learning.
Test scores do not measure teaching and classroom management skills, or how each child learns. Children learn differently.
Test Scores how much a child may remember what they were taught, but test scores do nothing to improve a child’s memory and the way our species remembers stuff is nothing like a computer hard drive.
Standardized tests treat children like their minds should be computer hard drives. That is discrimination.
All computer hard drives area also standardized. Some retrieve files faster and some have more memory capacity.
“The (human) brain is always changing and being modified. There is no ‘off’ for the brain – even when an animal (humans are animals even though some humans don’t like hearing that) is sleeping, its brain is still active and working. The computer only changes when new hardware or software is added or something is saved in memory.”
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/neurok.html
“Unreliable Memory”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201203/unreliable-memory
Children are not standardized.
Public school teachers are not standardized.
Even public schools are not standardized.
Still, charter schools are standardized and they expect their teachers to fit into that standardization like a drone.
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Excellent post, Lloyd! You said it all.
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I’ve had testing fatigue for many years. The district keeps piling on more, this time iReady tests. Now, the iReady tests have Apple online “lessons” the principal wants the students to spend at least an hour a week doing. No teachers needed. They never stop loading on more products. I’m getting fighting testing fatigue. The testing industry is much bigger than one Goliath. I’m tire of people selling things. I’m tired of the fake research showing that testing is harmless and effective with no side effects other than tiredness, headaches, dizziness, vomiting, blurred vision, having trouble standing, having trouble swallowing, depression, increased risk of infection, so call your doctor if steam literally comes out of your ears and your face turns the color of a fire engine. I could use Some Dam poem about data and Gates to cheer me up. It’s been a while.
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California should know better than testing extremism. It will not improve academics. It just makes school a painful experience. Chin up, the holidays are almost here! Your students are lucky to have you in their corner.
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I have been saying this for years. My school has had the “honor” to be an NAEP school for over a decade now (so much for “random selection.”). The kids HATE the test and do not care. All they get out of it? A “certificate of public service” and an NAEP pencil.
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All these tests make the ergodic assumption which you can’t make for humans! Lazy, cheap and pointless.
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chrisbigum– Agree, & love the word & concept. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary.
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Yes. It’s an inconvenient fact. What matters is what happens to people over time- what matters to statisticians is what happens in aggregate
the aggregate loses touch with the individual experience. Modern economic theory has the same problem.
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Bonner concludes that “Testing has become a waste of time and money that could be better used elsewhere.” Does Bonner mean to imply that the NAEP itself is a waste of time and money, or just high stakes testing? I’m skeptical of the former for two reasons. First as someone who has organized in NY to get parents to “opt out” of New York State testing I’ve often claimed (I hope not wrongly) that the NAEP data has helped show that NY State tests were not helping improve education. Second, the NAEP (according to my google search) costs around $175.2 million. Given the amount we spend on education nationally that isn’t very much. For instance, even as a percentage of just New York City’s DoE budget it is only about 0.4% of the $37 billion yearly spent.
I thought the NAEP was useful, for among other things, showing the ineffectiveness of high stakes testing.
The fact that some kids don’t take the test seriously is clearly a problem. However, I’m wondering if this is a problem that can be dealt with sucessfully by finding ways to filter out bad data. This seems to show that NAEP is not operating at all as a high stakes test. One of the problems, in my not well-informed opinion, in New York is that we have some schools “cheating” by spending massive amounts of classtime prepping their students for the state tests. It’s a good sign that the kids don’t stress out over the NAEP tests, but a problem if they don’t make a good faith effort in answering the questions. I bet this can be fixed.
My apolopgies for barging in on your community. I have never commented before. I was sent this blog post from a list serve and read it with interest. It does seem to me that the old cliche “don’t throw the baby out . . . ” is appropriate here.
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Hope to see you here again often. It’s a great site visited by a lot of brilliant people who care about kids and schools.
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Thanks for your encouragement. Like many parents, I’ve found Diane Ravitch’s work helpful. Though, I’m not a regular reader, the blog has always been a great resource for activists.
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I have often thought that if we let go of high stakes testing and policy makers took a deep dive into NAEP results, taking honest appraisal of strengths and weaknesses, it could be valuable. As I stated earlier, the impact NAEP has on an instructional day, with results providing justification for certain agendas to slam the public schools, does make the endeavor a waste for students. As long as we use any of these tests as a reason to privatize and defund when the results tell us we need more resources, then the use of these instruments become detrimental to instruction and public education as a whole.
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Thank you so much for your reply! I appreciate the response and opporntunity to converse a little. I think I understand your point. I agree that both the NAEP data and—of course—the NYS ELA & math data have been used to denigrate public schools.
However, I want to express a little frustration that admittedly comes from my personal experience only. I spent years talking to parents promoting the Opt-Out movment in New York City. Many of the people in my kid’s school who were also Opt-Out activists and took the position that all standardized testing was bad.* It started to drive me a little batty. First, it was an ineffective point to make to people who were not yet on board with Opting Out. Seocnd, I also believe it is incorrect. I care about how other kids in the city, state and nation are doing and I think some kind of survey, standard and comparable, is necessary to learn about how we’re all getting by. So . . . even if the NAEP’s data can be, and is, being used for nefarious purposes, I have a gut feeling it is still a worthwhile tool, because we can use its data for good. I don’t know how to do a proper cost and benefit analysis to really make a strong argument about it.
*Some of the most extreme people seem to think ALL testing is bad. To the point that some at my kid’s former school are against screeners for dyslexia, which they argue takes away instruction time and doesn’t tell good teachers anything they don’t already know. Every outside instrument is met with so much suspicion that it clouds judgment about tools that could actually be helpful.
All that to say, I think I do understand your point, but I feel—and I emphasize that it’s just a feeling—that among my crowd there has been a counterproductive rejection of all standardized tests/surveys/screeners or whatever you want to call them.
Thanks again for “listening.”
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I once charted the cutoff scores that New York assigned to its ELA and Math tests over several decades. These jumped around like a gerbil on methamphetamines. In years in which they wanted to harp on how terrible the scores were because they wanted to institute some new magic elixir, they set the cutoffs high. In years when they wanted to show that what they were doing was working, they set them low.
A scam.
And the geniuses at the federal Department of Education never caught onto this (or were complicit).
And you really need to read this about the state tests:
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There are important roles to be played by diagnostic and formative testing. Summative testing that attempts to go after very broad conclusions tends to be of questionable validity and to lead to devolutions in curricula and pedagogy so that these become all about teaching kids how to answer random questions like those on the test rather than about coherent, cumulative coverage of subject matter.
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When I began teaching in the 1980s standardized testing served a diagnostic purpose. Being an art teacher, I never engaged with that data and I seem to recall there was an element of privacy where student scores were not compiled to determine grade level trends. The approach to that testing week was very different than with high stakes testing. It was almost seen as a break from the day to day. What I seem to recall as a student who took those tests in the 1960s and 70s was that I was more concerned with finishing at the same time as the students who completed their tests quickest. We were actually allowed to read when we were finished. I never recall the results being shared with me so I saw little relationship to my academic progress or instruction. Tests were never designed to draw conclusions for a population. They were specifically made to determine individual student progress. Normative scoring data was there to determine where a student fit with his or her peers, but such data provided an incomplete picture when attempting to judge collective results. Grouping the results of a cadre of students is a bit of a fools errand that assumes many students who have comparable scores have similar deficits. Technology now allows us to zoom in on specific wrong answers, but it’s very difficult to determine how or why a student came to that answer. If we focused on developing a supported teacher corp that worked with smaller classrooms we would have better results. Yes, NAEP, compared to other tests, is relatively inexpensive on a macro scale, but the loss of time and resulting communal gnashing of teeth over the results serves little purpose.
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pcl6510– welcome. & hope you stay tuned. I agree on NAEP. Simply because there are no stakes attached, & it fulfills 150yo mission for Dept of ed [or Office of Ed or a division of HHS] to collect stats that provide rough comparison of edsystems among regions of the nation.
I value PISA as well– another no-stakes test based on cross-section of student pop sample, not tasking every kid [& only every 2 yrs for sample]. It hasn’t nearly as long a history, but is useful in putting US edsys in context of other nations.
And what about the IOWA basics (or the Stamford equivalent)? Only given every 3 yrs, & only to states [or districts?] choosing to participate. It was still in use when my kids were in elem/ midsch [’90s-early 2000’s]. There were no stakes, & we found it helpful in identifying, starting early, subjects in which our kids had strength/ interest. Helped in making course choices for midsch. In case of 1 of our kids, knowing those strengths/ interests was important when we saw him slumping in those courses in late-midsch/ early hisch, which alerted us that SOP school wasn’t working well for him. [He ended up doing stellarly in our project-based, school-within-the hischool program in 11th/12th.]
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Ginny,
I agree that tests should be valued to the extent they are diagnostic and give the teachers and parents useful information.
Simply to compare districts and states is not useful. That’s horse race data.
The original purpose of the US Office of Education was to report to the American people on the “condition and progress” of American education. Its mission did not include standardized testing. The reports included tons of data about the availability of schools, enrollment, ages of children who attend and for how long they remained in school, graduation rates. Etc
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Thanks for the correction, Diane! You are my favorite ed historian.
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Thanks for your welcome, and for sharing your perspective. I would like to learn more about the NAEP (including negative criticisms, of course).
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NAEP is the federal testing program that tests large samples of students in every state and a score of cities in many subjects. By law, NAEP tests math and English every two years. It tests other subjects less frequently. No student takes the entire test. There are no reports back for individual students or schools. It is a no-stakes test. NAEP reports performance by grade (4 & 8), race, gender, ethnicity, poverty, ELL status, and disability status. It also reports achiever gaps between white, Black, Hispanic and Asian students.
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Yet another downside of our fed-imposed, hi-stakes annual state-stdzd tests for 3rd-8th + 1 hr of hischool. Hadn’t thought of this one, but it makes great sense. The state tests are hi-stakes for schools & teachers, but not for students. So they are already more than sick of testing that doesn’t relate directly to their coursework. Which is bound to make those randomly-selected “sample” students even less engaged than they might have been pre-NCLB for NAEP [or PISA] tests.
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In many states, the 10th-grade ELA and Math tests ARE high stakes for students. They have to pass them in order to graduate.
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Thanks for that info, Bob! I’d heard bits of info suggesting that, but couldn’t put it together. So FL & some other states use the “+1 yr of high school” ESSA exam as a 10th-grade stand-in for a hisch exit exam? [Does a student who fails try again in 11th & 12th?]
I don’t think that counters the point, tho. 4th & 8th graders take the NAEP. I would imagine the 8th graders would be sick of taking tests that don’t count in their grade. Perhaps 10th grade PISA-takers as well.
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This number is down from what it was in the past, but currently, nine states require passing state exams in order to graduate: Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, Texas, Virginia, and Wyoming. And yes, students can take them several times.
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Oops. Sorry. Florida just dropped the exam requirement for both graduation and passing from 3rd to 4th grade.
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Sorry, Bethree. That was a one-time exemption in 2021 due to the pandemic. Florida students are required to pass the Grade 10 ELA exam and the Algebra exam in order to graduate. Students who failed to pass the FCAT ELA can substitute a passing score on one of the new Florida B.E.S.T. exams.
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Thanks Bob
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