Timothy Snyder, a professor at Yale who writes often about European history and the fate of democracy, wrote a letter from Kyiv. Ukrainians, he says, are determined not to be conquered by Russia. And he notes the strange rules of this war, where Russia can strike civilian targets in Ukraine at will but Ukrainians are not supposed to strike back outside their own territory.
He wrote:
Greetings from Kyiv. I have spent the last several days in Ukraine, here in the capital, and in the southerly regions of Odesa, Mykolaïv, and Kherson, trying to get a sense of the state of the war. I will write more about the experience, but I thought that it might be a good time to share my most general sense.
It is a crucial moment, partly because of what is happening, and partly because of our own sense of time. One and a half years is an awkward period for us. We might like to think that it can be brought to a rapid conclusion, with this or that offensive or weapon. When the war does not quickly end, we jump to the idea that it is a “stalemate,” which is a situation that lasts forever. This is false, and serves as a kind of excuse not to figure out what is going on. This is a war that can be won, but only if we are patient enough to see the outlines and the opportunities.
Russia’s gains in this invasion were made almost entirely during its first few weeks, in February and March 2022. Those gains were largely possible thanks to the fact that Russia had seized the Crimean Peninsula in its earlier invasion of Ukraine in 2014. Over the course of 2022, Ukraine won the battles of Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Kherson, and took back about half of the territory Russia gained.
In the first half of 2023, Russia undertook an offensive that gained almost nothing but the city of Bakhmut. In the second half of this year Ukraine has undertaken a counter-offensive which has taken far more territory than did the Russian offensive, but which has not (yet) changed the overall strategic position (but could). In Russia, a military coup was attempted by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the leader of the mercenary group that took Bakhmut. He and Putin made a deal, after which Putin killed him. In a related development, Sergei Surovikin, probably the most capable Russian general, has been relieved of his command. Russia now has no meaningful offensive potential. Its strategy is to continue terror against civilians until Ukrainians can endure no longer. This, judging from my experience anyway, is not a tenable approach. On the other hand, Russia has had time to extensively fortify a long long of defense in the east and south, and to prepare for Ukrainian offensives. This makes Ukrainian offensives very difficult.
Ukraine did want to press forward last year, before the fortifications were built. It lacked the necessary weapons, and Elon Musk chose to cut Ukraine off from communications. That move likely extended the war. Because Musk’s decision was based on his internalization of Russian propaganda about nuclear war, and was accompanied by his repetition of that propaganda, he made a nuclear war more likely. If powerful men convey the message that just talking about nuclear war is enough to win conventional wars, then we will have more countries with nuclear weapons and more conventional wars that can escalate into nuclear ones. Ukraine has been resistant to this line of Russian fearmongering, fortunately for us all.
Ukraine did not have the arms it needed last year in part for the same reason: Americans allowed Russian propaganda to displace strategic calculation. By now, though, the American side has generally understood that Russia’s nuclear threat was a psychological operation meant to slow weapons deliveries. The United States and European partners have delivered arms to Ukraine, which has been absolutely indispensable. Hhistorically speaking, though, the pace is slow. Fighter planes are coming, but a year late for the current offensive. So Ukrainians are now trying an offensive in conditions that American staff officers would find challenging. Americans take for granted economic superiority, prior destruction of logistics, and air supremacy, none of which describe the Ukrainian position. Ukrainians do not even have numerical superiority, let alone of the 3-1 or 5-1 variety that would be standard advice for an offensive.
The fighting this summer has been very hard and very costly for Ukraine, harder and costlier, I think, than it had to be. I visited wounded soldiers in a rehabilitation center earlier today; among the many feelings this aroused was some guilt that my people could have done more to protect these people. (If you want to protect them, consider a gift to Come Back Alive or United24 or Unite with Ukraine).

Kherson oblast, Ukraine, September 2023, TS
That said, Ukrainian territorial advances this summer have been sufficient to trigger a barrage of calls for a cease-fire from Kremlin-friendly voices. Given the way or media seems to work, these calls (rather than the events on the ground) sometimes seem to be the news. Pro-Kremlin op-eds smuggle in the assumption that Ukraine is not advancing, when in fact it is. The Kremlin allies make their case in terms of Ukrainian suffering, but never cite Ukrainians, nor the polling data that shows overwhelming support for the war.
There is zero reason to believe that the Kremlin would actually feel constrained by such an agreement in any place; it did not even begin to hold to the terms of the agreement after its last invasion, and in invading again Moscow has violated all of its agreements with Ukraine (while making clear that it does not consider Ukraine a state). Russian propagandists talking to Russian audiences do not hide that the goal is the destruction of the Ukrainian nation, and that a ceasefire would just be meant to buy time. Now that the nuclear bluff has largely worn itself out, Moscow has changed its approach, trying instead to make people believe that nothing is happening on the battlefield. Moscow’s hope is to motivate Ukraine’s allies to restrain Ukraine long enough for Russia to shift the balance of forces in its favor.
Ukraine is deploying its own long-range strike capability to destroy airplanes and logistics in Russian territory, which is a necessary condition for winning the war. This is an awkward development, since western partners don’t always think through how a war like this can be brought to an end. It ends when one side wins. The questions are who wins and under what conditions.
The American allies take the correct view that Ukraine to win must break through the Russian lines. But there are just not that many Ukrainians to throw into surges, and from a Ukrainian perspective those lives should be put at risk when the battlefield has been shaped. The notion of a breakthrough is also too narrowly defined. Even setting aside the value of life, which is what this war is all about, military history does show that battlefield victories are the final stage of a larger process that begins with logistics.
This war has brought an entirely new theory of what a defensive war means: fighting only on one’s own territory. This does not correspond to international law and has never made any sense. It is a bit like rooting for a basketball team but believing it should play without ever taking the ball past halfcourt, or rooting for a boxer but claiming he is not allowed to throw a punch after his opponent does. Had such a notion been in place in past wars, none of Ukraine’s partners would ever have won any of the wars they are proud of winning.
The voiced concern is that Russia could “escalate.” This argument is a triumph of Russian propaganda. None of Ukraine’s strikes across borders has done anything except reduce Russian capacity. None has led Russia to do things it was not already doing. The notion of “escalation” in this setting is a misunderstanding. In trying to undo Russian logistics, Ukraine is trying to end the war. Ukraine will not do in Russia most of the things Russia has done in Ukraine. It will not occupy or seize territory, it will not execute civilians, it will not build concentration camps and torture chambers. What it must be allowed to do, to have some chance of stopping those Russian practices in Ukraine, is to have the capacity to win the war. With every village that Ukraine takes back, we see the most important de-escalation: away from war crimes and genocide, towards something more like a normal life.
Victory will be difficult, but it is the relevant concept. I don’t know any Ukrainians at this point who have not lost a friend or a family member in this war. My friends now tend to have a certain dark circle around the eyes and a tendency to look into the middle distance. And yet the level of determination is very, very high. In the few days I have been here there have been missile attacks in or near both cities where I spent the night, a murderous Russian strike on a market, and a Russian attempt to cut off Ukrainian grain exports with missiles and drones. This is daily life — but it is Ukrainian daily life, not ours. The Ukrainians are doing all of the fighting; we are doing part of the funding. What Ukrainian resistance protects, though, extends far beyond Ukraine.
The Ukrainians are defending the legal order established after the Second World War. They have performed the entire NATO mission of absorbing and reversing an attack by Russia with a tiny percentage of NATO military budgets and zero losses from NATO members. Ukrainians are making a war in the Pacific much less likely by demonstrating to China that offensive operations are harder than they seem. They have made nuclear war less likely by demonstrating that nuclear blackmail need not work. Ukraine is also fighting to restore its grain exports to Africa and Asia, where millions of people have been put at risk by Russia’s attack on the Ukrainian economy. Last but not least, Ukrainians are demonstrating that a democracy can defend itself.
Ukrainians are delivering to us kinds of security that we could not attain on our own. I fear that we are taking these security gains for granted. (In my more cynical moments, I fear that some of us, perhaps even some presidential candidates, resent the Ukrainians precisely for helping us so much.)
This war will not end because of one sudden event, but nor will it go on indefinitely. When and how it ends depends largely on us, on what we do, on how much we help. Even if we did not care at all about Ukrainians (and we should), getting this war to end with a Ukrainian victory would be by far the best thing Americans could do for themselves. Indeed, I do not think that, in the history of US foreign relations, there has ever been a chance to secure so much for Americans with so little effort by Americans. I do hope we take that chance.
TS Kyiv 7 September

May the genocidal rapists and war criminals soon be driven out of every inch of Ukrainian soil, including the Donbas and Crimea!
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In The Art of War, Sun Tzu talks about what it takes to defeat an enemy with a larger army and population. Some of the elements Sun Tzu talks about have already been achieved by Ukraine’s military, but not all of them.
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In the long reach of History it is easy to discern that one battle does not decide a war. However one aspects seems to be overlooked by nations which start wars.
Once the war starts because of vast variability of factors involved they are quite likely to loose control of the narrative- the narrative being one which is continuous; it does not stop with ‘a war’ ending; history continues.
Russia either has a choice of a Peace Deal or a Withdrawal or a long war of slow low level attrition. None would appear attractive to the Kremlin.
There is a possible scenario that following a Kremlin upheaval of some sort; a more Total War mentality could arise and with the ‘say-so’ of China Russia could throw even larger resources into the battle. With other pressures (likely to be internal) it is possible the West may have to abandon Ukraine. ‘A Peace’ is signed.
Then the possible ramifications sets in:
1. As far Europe is concerned Russia is a dangerous pariah and builds up its capabilities in Poland the Baltic and Nordic states. A new Iron Curtain. Serbia being pro-Russian. And a polarisation of European and American opinion. (A variable)
2. Resistance continues in Ukraine on a low key insurrection. In such a large territory Russian Security forces are stretched, as is its economic base. (more variables)
3. China calls in the favours in terms of dictated trade deals, due to its own economic requirements. (A pressing concern for China)
4. Russia requires to call in its support in Africa, but in turn Russia is gradually perceived as another colonial power and faces ill-will, which extremist Muslim groups will take advantage of with possible background assistance from Iran and Gulf States depending on the belief base of the relevant group. (More variables)
5. World trade is dislocated, famines continue due to disruption of grain produce. Polarisation over whose ‘fault’ causes another layer of conflict in vulnerable regions. (More variables)
Russian resources are therefore stretched and without the goodwill of ‘The West’ (as an amorphous Commerce / Political / Social grouping) is isolated from a substantial resource base.
6. The question of this conflict will take on even greater transaction in the USA as opposing groups use support or opposition to Ukraine / Russia for domestic purposes. American foreign policy could become chaotic depending on which group dominates in the government. Miscalculations by Russian policy makers could lead to errors which could backfire on them if American policy see-saws.
The time scale of this possible scenario cannot be even estimated because of the variables involved. The new Russian state will likely to be able to maintain internal control and rely of a substantial amount of support from various but disparate sources; this will mostly be social and of little value materially.
Overall the likelihood of Russia imposing a sense of complete control of the situation is slender.
Unless Russia accepts as the USA has had to in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan the War is No Longer Worth It.
Whosoever starts ‘the War’ will have to race repercussions or ramifications. History dictates this is so.
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A superb and accurate analysis
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“1. As far Europe is concerned Russia is a dangerous pariah and builds up its capabilities in Poland the Baltic and Nordic states. A new Iron Curtain.”
So Russia is building up “its capabilities in Poland the Baltic and Nordic states.”
Really???
From wiki: “The Baltic states[a] or the Baltic countries is a geopolitical term encompassing Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. All three countries are members of NATO, the European Union, the Eurozone, and the OECD. The three sovereign states on the eastern coast of the Baltic Sea are sometimes referred to as the “Baltic nations”, less often and in historical circumstances also as the “Baltic republics”, the “Baltic lands”, or simply the Baltics. . . . The Nordic countries (also known as the Nordics or Norden; lit. ‘the North’)[2] are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic. It includes the sovereign states of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway[b] and Sweden; the autonomous territories of the Faroe Islands and Greenland; and the autonomous region of Åland.[4]. . . . Poland has a population of over 38 million and is the fifth-most populous member state of the European Union.”
Unless I am misreading that statement, I wouldn’t consider it to be “superb and accurate analysis.”
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Duane, he did not say that Russia is now a power in those states. He is projecting a future time in which an emboldened Russia will threaten those states IF the West were to abandon Ukraine to Russia and Russia won its illegal war there.
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Thank you Bob
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And, Duane, that is just what Putin promised to do, in his essay “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians.” What he promised in that essay, in his own words, is taking Ukraine and then, one by one, taking other nearby states to recreate a “Greater Russian Empire.” This essay by Dienne’s hero is freely available online. You can read it yourself. It is an ahistorical Russian imperialist manifesto.
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I feel the need to draw your attention the my use of English: Europe is the active subject in the statement and thus this statement refers to its responses; Russia being the object of its attention. To read Russia as ‘building up’ is making an error as to the context of the subject matter.
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Thanks for the clarification. What you are saying is that Europe is the one building its capabilities in those three geographical areas. The sentence is confusing to me without that clarification. Now it makes sense. Again thanks.
I can only hope that Putin is not long for this earth. He is a war criminal much in the same vein as all the US presidents who “commanded” the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and various other countries over the years.
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Yes that’s correct. From my European perspective this is part of a dynamic which has been played out over and over since the 15th Century when Russia as we know it now began to form and bumped up against states to the west such as Sweden, Poland, Poland-Lithuania, Hapsburg Empire, Ottoman Empire and so forth.
Some who are trying to make excuses for Putin are saying he had no choice and that the West was forcing him. This is a distortion of the Historical Reality.
Russia is drawn to have influence in Ukraine, for centuries they have been linked in a mish-mosh. In Realpolitik terms the inexcusable blunder made was Russia did not employ soft power by saying ‘Hey we all mistakes. But we’re brothers. You can’t trust those Westerners. They’ll strip mine you and sell you out. Let’s talk, with roubles, gas and so forth’ (or the Russian Equivalent).
But Putin and his Kremlin like others before them were fixated on the use of a Military option for their own ‘Manifest Destiny’ (Czar Nicholas the First and his ‘trusted’ advisors had a similar fixation which ended up with the Crimean War).
Whether Putin survives will depend on Russians, he won’t be the first Czar to be assassinated or arrested and tried for crimes
To return to the first mistake; a classic made by many a government – Underestimate the opposition’s capacity and will to resist; who will aid and for what reason.
My advice to any would-be invader of anywhere- read the target’s history- it’s way back history, then decide Soft Power is the better option.
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Thank you Bob.
I would have preferred to have had the confidence to suggest the following scenario:
Moscow news channels announced President Putin has been rushed into hospital following a collapse through over-work, in defence of Russia and all its peoples.
Moscow news channels supply no further updates other than he is receiving the best of attention.
In the following weeks Ukrainian and Western strategic sources notice a decrease in Russian military activity.
In the meantime an emergency Russian Provisional Government is set up to manage affairs, while awaiting President Putin’s recovery.
Over the next weeks back channel through third and fourth parties start to tentatively open up communications through neutral states such as Switzerland, possibly India and others not directly involved or implicated as involved.
Russia goes into mourning as it is announced that President Putin has died through over-work.
Russian business sources reach out to Western business sources through mediators to form a channel of communication.
In order to repair their own standings on the World Stage nations such as Israel and Saudi Arabia play a realpolitik card as perceived Honest Brokers thus lending support to the other channels outlined in 5 & 7. (Everyone involved conveniently forgets what has been going on the Middle East)
At the same time although not paying any condolences for the death of Putin The West starts to reach out with tentative conciliatory messages to the Russian leading group.
10, (Background Western Intelligence sources start to conjecture on who will likely to be the strong men and their intentions.)
In a sudden movement Belorussian security forces move to disarm Wagner forces within its borders, citing ‘criminal’ and ‘terrorist’ activities. (Back channel selective Western Intelligence is based to the government)- This could fit anywhere actually after 1- even before.
Ukrainian government comes under soft pressure from Western Governments to make peace feelers, this rachets up gently if Kyiv is seen to be dragging its heels)
Back Channels to Beijing advises USA wishes China well and hope China will aid in the the peace discussion. At the same time articles appear in selected journals by ‘independent sources’. Arguing how the USA ‘would have responded’ to a Chinese incursion on Taiwan.
Peace negotiations continue between Ukraine and Russia for several years.
Trade links opened with Russia.
Infrastructure projects in Ukraine becomes ‘big business’ on the world stage.
Over the past years books speculating Putin’s actual fate flourish. Western Governments as part of the ‘peace process’ stick with Moscow’s official line. Some more erudite politicians seeing a chance to promote themselves by association of workload, go on at great length about the pressures of running a nation- while not making any favourable comments about Putin.
Eventually a settlement is reached in which neither side is wholly happy but accepts this is the best we’re going to get.
Not a morally satisfactory outcome, but Realpolitik ones never are.
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As far Europe is concerned Russia is a dangerous pariah and builds up its capabilities in Poland the Baltic and Nordic states. A new Iron Curtain.“
Not sure what “builds up its capabilities” means specifically, but regardless of Putins stated objectives, it’s doubtful that a new iron curtain could result from anything less than a military takeover of those countries by Russia.
And that is highly unlikely (if not all but impossible) given that the vast majority of countries referred to by “Poland, the Baltic and Nordic states” are already part of NATO and the NATO charter considers an attack on one as an attack on all.
Even if Putin managed to take over Sweden, Georgia and Bosnia-Herzegovina (3 states that have applied for NATO membership but have not yet been accepted), it would hardly constitute an “iron curtain” (more like a broken down picket fence with mostly missing pickets)
Putin might desire such an outcome and even have designs for it in terms of a Greater Russia, but that’s a far cry from its ever becoming a reality, regardless of how Ukraine turns out.
That the vast majority of those countries are already part of NATO and Ukraine is not makes a rather significant difference in the way NATO treats an attempted takeover of any one of them (as made eminently clear by NATOs “reserved” response to the Russian attack on Ukraine). Putin attacked Ukraine precisely because it was not part of NATO.
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Not incidentally, the primary reason why Ukraine is going to have a very difficult (if not impossible) time being accepted into NATO (which requires unanimous consent by all members) is precisely the “attack on one is considered an attack on all” policy.
People may not like to admit it, but that is THE key factor.
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The Putin defenders on here say Putin attacked Ukraine because it was CONSIDERING being part of NATO. So if Putin has the right to attack any country “considering” being part of NATO, that is a problem.
Wonder what would have happened if Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia was not met with appeasement in 1938. Ironic that many defenders of Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler claim that the appeasement gave Britain an extra year to get ready for a massive war to come. Which isn’t exactly a great argument for appeasement — that if you give an immoral dictator willing to massively wipe out entire populations the go ahead to take over one country, that will allow the US and other NATO countries extra time to build up their own military industrial complex to be able to fight a years long very destructive world war against this immoral dictator.
Maybe it’s better to take a stand now (which is clearly Biden’s opinion) instead of having a far worse outcome later.
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Det: really enjoyed your comments. It calls to mind a question I have had for many years. Why has Russia generally failed to overcome neighbors ?
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Thank you Roy.
Like all questions to do with Europe, that’s a question with a long answer. Basically it goes like this.
A nation rises. It is pre-eminent. It stretches. Others gang up on it (apart from a few), it declines. Some of the bigger ones go through that cycle more than once.
Russia put an end to Swedish Supremacy in the Baltic in the Great Northern War (1700-1721); didn’t gain any territory in the Seven Years War (1756- 1763) but did come out an a pre-eminent Power broker. Eventually was on the winning side of the Napoleonic Wars. Over all this time managed to get its hands on Poland, a fair part of the Baltic States and Finland. At the same time had enough resources to fight against the Ottoman Empire and sometimes part of the Persian Empire.
The First World War was a real game changer, then along came the USSR which took back most of what was lost.
Then came the Second World War which at a massive cost had in the end Russia holding eastern Europe.
Overall, Russia had done geopolitically ‘quite well’, as long as you leave out the body counts and famines caused by wars.
But as is the European Way, decline set in in the late 1980s-early 1990s and Russia had to shed a lot. That said Russia like China has this capacity for absorbing tremendous losses and still come back.
However whereas it is highly, highly unlikely Russia would collapse as a nation, another loss of hard-won-back political and economic status is possible if this wars keeps on.
Russians tend not to like being thought of as Europeans, which is fair enough, however for the past, say 500 years, Russia’s fate has been linked to the rest of Europe.
(Arguably in terms of frequency of conflicts, area, and population destiny the most fought over part of the world)
When it comes to Europe…
‘It’s Complicated’
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There is new concern since it has been reported that Putin will meet with Kim Jong Un. The US believes Putin will meet to discuss an arms for food deal with him. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/kim-jong-un-expected-to-meet-with-putin-to-discuss-arms-deal
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This shows how desperate Russia has become. It is going begging to Trump’s buddy Little Rocket Man for arms.
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One of the issues is that 40 percent of the Russian ordinance fails to work because of the culture of kleptocracy that Putin created and that worked its way all the way down the Russian military ranks. Get funding for the good stuff. Pocket half the money. Buy junk.
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Counterpoint. Yes, yes, I know, everything you disagree with is Russian propaganda and/or right-wing talking points. But in case anyone wants to hear anything outside of western propaganda, here you go. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/07/19/why-ukraines-counter-offensive-is-failing/
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And another one. Hard to deny Mearsheimer’s knowledge of the region or paint him as a Russian propagandist, but I know you all will try. https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/bound-to-lose
Anyway, have fun calling me a Putin puppet. I won’t respond. Have a good day.
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If Putin takes Ukraine, with its large army, what stops him from reabsorbing Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, which are tiny?
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Okay, I said I wouldn’t respond, but….
If that was his intent, why hasn’t he already tried? He’s been in power over 20 years.
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There was a time when Putin wanted Russia to be a respected member of the global community. I have no idea why it changed but it did. He says he wants to reassemble the USSR. He said it’s breakup was “the greatest geopolitical tragedy” of the 20th century.
Why do you think so many ex-Soviet satellites joined NATO? Fear.
Why did Finland and Sweden apply to join NATO?
Fear of Putin.
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An interesting bit of information: https://quincyinst.org/report/defense-contractor-funded-think-tanks-dominate-ukraine-debate/
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Bullshit. Clear-eyed readings of history and of international law are what dominate the discussion of Ukraine in the West, one that involves a lot of nondebatable realities, like that one sovereign UN member country violated the UN charter and the Rome Statute by illegally invading another sovereign UN member country.
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cx: ones that involve a lot of nondebatable realities.
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In other words, it is not spin from Think Thanks that is dominating the discussion (again, no real debate among any folks not in the service of Trump and Russia) in the United States. It is the facts of the case–the facts of Russia’s actions, of international law, and of Ukrainian and Russian history. These speak profoundly, urgently, piteously for themselves. The last thing we should do is abandon Ukraine to the rapacious, genocidal invaders, making way for the imperialist march over the now-free, former Soviet countries that Tsar Putin has promised.
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It’s really NOT BS. The Federal Government is constrained by civil law so they use Defense Contractors and NGO’s to get the job done. Stink tanks run this magic show because they ARE political. K Street is alive and well in DC. Many people in the DC area lost their jobs at NGO’s when the US pulled out of Afghanistan, yet the Defense Contractors and Stink Tanks remained $afe.
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If you would like actual information about Ukraine, I highly recommend this course:
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