The Republicans continue their war against abortion, even though the majority in every state want to keep it legal. Few if any women realize they are pregnant at the six-week mark.
The South Carolina Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld the state’s new near-total ban on abortion by a 4-1 vote, reversing a decision it had made in January that struck down a similar ban and declared that the State Constitution’s protections for privacy included a right to abortion.
The court’s decision was not unexpected, because the makeup of the bench had changed, and Republicans in the State Legislature had passed a new abortion law in the hopes that it would find a friendlier audience with the new court. The decision in January was written by the court’s only female justice; she retired and South Carolina now has the nation’s only all-male high court.
The decision repeated what the justices said in January about a right to privacy in the State Constitution, but said the Legislature had addressed the concerns in the first law and “balanced” the interests of pregnant women with those of the fetus.
“To be sure, the 2023 Act infringes on a woman’s right of privacy and bodily autonomy,” Justice John Kittredge wrote for the majority.
But, he added, “We think it is important to reiterate: we are constrained by the express language in the South Carolina Constitution that prohibits only ‘unreasonable invasions of privacy.’
“The legislature has made a policy determination that, at a certain point in the pregnancy, a woman’s interest in autonomy and privacy does not outweigh the interest of the unborn child to live…”
Until now, South Carolina had allowed abortion until 22 weeks, which had increasingly made the state a haven for women seeking abortions as other Southern states banned the procedure.
Republicans said their next step would be a total ban on abortions.
The likely result: Wealthy and middle-income women who want an abortion will go to a state where it is legal. Poor women won’t be able to afford to make the trip. There will be more children born to poor mothers. In South Carolina, there is fervor to support the unborn but not the born.

The women of America will remember this stuff come November of 2024.
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The odd (or maybe it’s not odd) thing is, women and men are pretty similar in their views on abortion laws. Even in South Carolina, their views differ only by a percentage point or two.
Of course the intensity of the views may differ more by sex, and that does matter.
But this is not really a men versus women issue, or at least not as much as many think. Laws like this could not be passed in the first place without very broad support by women in the electorate.
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But note that every state referendum on abortion has gone the same way: in favor of making abortion legal, usually by 55/60%. Conservatives struggle to keep abortion off the ballot.
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Indiana’s very conservative legislature enacted a near-total ban on abortion, which was upheld yesterday by the state Supreme Court.
https://apnews.com/article/indiana-abortion-ban-status-45bb0c1e4e91dcc8de4638979e261db8
I bet the state legislature will block any attempt to hold a referendum.
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Good point, Flerp!
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“Indiana Catholic Conference Ready for 2023 Legislative Session” – The Message (a Catholic newspaper in Indiana), 1-5-2023
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You are exactly right, Diane. Overall, this is a losing issue for Republicans.
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We women better remember.
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Millions of women in the US regularly vote against their own interests.
Witness all the women who voted for the pu**ygrabber..
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And who continue to support him even though he has been determined by a court to be a rapist
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From “No Kid Hungry.” 1 in 8 kids in the United States are living with hunger. That’s 9 million children. Some of these children are missing meals; others are faced with hunger-related hardships as parents and caretakers make tradeoffs between buying groceries or paying bills. Households that are food insecure are those that struggled to provide enough food for everyone living there at some point during the year. A child living in a food-insecure household might not get enough food to eat. Or her mother may have to skip meals to feed her. Or the family may have enough to eat one month, but not the next.In all these cases, that child is living with hunger.”
Nice to know the same people who do not allow women to make decisions about their own bodies are totally donating millions to this program, right?
Bizarro world.
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Biden’s Child Tax Credit dramatically reduced child poverty. By nearly half. When it expired, Republicans refused to renew it.
https://itep.org/child-tax-credit-expansion-would-help-60-million-kids/
Isn’t it strange that people in the poorest states continue to vote for Republicans? Instead of voting for the party that wants to raise their standard of living, they vote for the party that takes a stand against drag queens, LGBT, and BLM.
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It makes no sense to me and especially when the phrase, “…be fruitful and multiply…” is chanted in front of the poorest of people. What’s next? Advanced Directives?
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They’re simply too focused on owning the libs to realize they just owned themselves.
Which is precisely the goal.
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rcharvet– Coming to you from “Planet 9”—someone who is deeply spiritual, and tries to interpret Biblical (and other) sources from a spiritual POV. I have always instinctively understood that “be fruitful and multiply” verse as an exhortation to go on, do that, until… the results inevitably cause a conflict between multiplying, and what the world we’re given can sustain… forcing us to work together, globally, to figure out how to maintain both the species and the planet. Because the message of the Bible [and other global religious tracts] seems to me to always be about becoming one with the creative force that put us here.
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Great thoughts. Yes, work together for a better tomorrow within our “carrying capacity.” It is mind boggling to me what world we live in, but I love your spirituality and thank you for spreading it to me.
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As with other states, it will be interesting to see if this has any moderating effect on the Republican Party in South Carolina. I hope so. According to one poll I saw, 35% of Republicans in SC thought abortion should be totally/mostly legal. That’s compared to 51% who thought it should be totally/mostly illegal. So that’s a firm majority, but 35% is not insignificant, and there could be districts where that matters, and there could be some interparty movement because of this issue.
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Seriously, why do Republicans hate women and reproductive rights so much?
Why do they hate decency and honesty?
Why do they hate diversity and equality?
Why do they hate the rule of law?
Why do they hate the Constitution and democratic governance?
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The first one is pretty simple. I don’t think most Republicans “hate women,” not least because about half of all Republicans are women. But in general they are more hostile to reproductive rights because they are more religious than Democrats.
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I think you are correct. Republicans think they love women, because Republicans are surrounded by women who support traditional views of relationships. This is also why Republicans exhibit the strange behavior of opposition to medical privacy until they need it. The notion that life begins at conception dovetails nicely with the notion that 46 chromosomes is the magic that makes us. Then a medical emergency like fetal abnormalities or early sac failure alerts the individual to the real and painful reality: not all life is viable, and medical advice given privately is the best way to make personal decisions about these horrible moments in our mortality.
Most women, Republicans or not, have met someone who had to end a pregnancy or have had one go awry. I would bet this is why, as Diane has pointed out, opponents of abortion rights are loathe to put this thing to a plebiscite.
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“hostility to reproductive rights” is not about the fetus, it is about controlling women. There are Republican men who have publicly stated their view that birth control increases promiscuity. One was quoted on national tv, “If you don’t want to have a baby, don’t have sex.”
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FLERP!
Perhaps they don’t hate women. How do many if not most Republican men and Republican women see their roles. How do they see other women who violate their norms of what those rolls should be, especially in the South. However as Mike Lofgren says, that Southern Culture has migrated North to the point he a Republican congressional staffer for 20 years no longer recognizes his home state of Ohio. As Diane’s favorite Heather Cox Richardson would claim the “South Won the Civil War “in the West.
Toxic Masculinity is empowered by women who are just fine with it.(except when it hits too close to home).
There is a reason Teflon Don can grab …….. and get away with it ,with Republican Women . That a Roy Moore gets the overwhelming vote of Alabama White Women. That a Hillary
Clinton or Elisabeth Warren polar opposites in the Democratic Party are so reviled by Republicans, men and women.
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Love the edit button , rolls / out roles /in
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Joel and others-
Since I’m the only one talking about the primary impetus for the anti-abortion stance of men (in both this and prior comment threads), it provokes me to ask why it is it so difficult for people at the blog to accept right wing churches want to control women’s sexuality?
It’s similar to the loop that makes people puzzle endlessly when the answer is obvious and that makes them reject the evident leadership of the Catholic church in the school choice campaign.
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Linda
I don’t disagree about the Catholic Church. I just spread it around a bit more. You almost completely dismiss the role of the Protestant denominations in developing this toxic stew.
“Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation” Kristin Kobes Du Mez
A pretty detailed account .
You also dismiss the role of the Black Man(race) in all this . His crime just being Black. Must protect those Southern Bells from that Big Bad Black man. And that culture of female subservience to the male protector dates back to slavery and has spread far beyond the South.
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I get it, Joel.
Media ignore the Catholic Church in favor of protestant Christian nationalist wrong doing. Your solution is more focus on protestant Christian nationalists. Btw- the dioceses were in the top 5 funders of Issue 1 in Ohio, none of the top 5 were protestant or any other religion.
Just idle curiosity, do you think if Nikki Haley attended a Hindu school K-8, media would report it? If Ron DeSantis attended a Pentecostal school K-8, do you think media would let him get away with describing his education as at a public school?
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I think you are right, Roy, and would extend this beyond Rep or Dem schism. In general, people’s opinions/ political concerns are formed by their own experience and those of people they know. And problem pregnancies/ miscarriages are not the sort of thing that people share much with anyone but closest relatives, so many don’t have a grasp on what is normal, rare, whatever. You have to access CDC et al stats to learn that 1/2+ conceptions are washed away within first few weeks in miscarriages that don’t even register, and another 1/3 within the first trimester— half of which need active medical intervention (per current best medical protocol) to prevent sepsis et al negative outcomes, as it is very common that all fetal remains are not flushed out. And the meds/ procedures to flush the remains out can be read as “abortion” in states that legislate restrictive abortion laws.
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FLERP—I wonder if those Reps are actually more “religious” than Dems. Or if it’s even about being Rep. It strikes me as being more about it being not OK to have a kid out of wedlock, &/or get pregnant by a married guy [especially one who has some professional or political image to protect]
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Democracy, the answers are obvious: they hate all those things because they love power.
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Everyone loves power, dems made mandates to get vaccine, wear masks, censor, cancel culture, statues down, erase history. Abortions after 6 months is wrong or up to when baby comes out. Planned Parenthood also uses aborted babies to sell cells and baby parts on the black market.
Incest and rape are reasons to get abortions even republicans agree, its the late term abortions that is an issue.
This is a constitutional republic its not a democracy.
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Josh,
I don’t know anyone who believes in abortions after six months. GOP states are now enacting a six-week ban, which is a total ban—since no woman knows she is pregnant at six weeks. Some states do not permit exemptions for rape, incest, or danger to the mother’s life. Since the ban, there have been babies born without skulls, babies born with fatal conditions of other kinds, children 10 and 11 forced to give birth. Women forced to carry their rapist’s baby.
Do you approve?
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As for mandates to wear masks and get vaccinated, those were public health mandates. No Democrat gained power by requiring people to protect public health.
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One of the things that Ramaswamy has going for him is that
he is condescending to women which appeals to a huge number of men in the GOP base. It also is a style that appeals to a substantial number of women in right wing religion who have been indoctrinated that women are lesser. In my experience, women who spend time in patriarchal churches and schools often imitate a condescension style directed at other women. It’s a seeking of validation for a social norm.
It surprised me that a few women commenters at this blog use it. One even repeated Trump’s “blood” tag.
In terms of views about people who are Black, the form is White savior braggadocia.
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Ramaswamey holds extremist views. He wants to abolish the Dept of Ed, the FBI, and the IRS. He has promised to lay off 70% of the federal workforce. The more I read about his promises, the crazier he looks.
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Is he more condescending to women than he is to men?
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Flerp
An assessment about more or less condescension can be drawn from a review of the speaker’s responses. As example, Ramaswamy didn’t describe Chris Christie as a petulant teenager.
As a 2nd example, Ramaswamy didn’t preface an exasperated response with, “Chris, Chris, Chris”, where the repetition of the name reflects an adult to child mode of communication.
Ramaswamy’s attitude toward women (prevalent in the tech world) will have recognizable cues that differentiate the “smartest guy in the room” attitude from the bigotry of women are inferior.
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In 2019, Pro Publica wrote a scathing report about ethics problems in South Carolina’s courts.
Near the end of the article, readers learn about one complaint involving charges of excessive lawyer fees. The fees came out of the portion of a settlement intended for victims. As I understand it, the payor, the Charleston Diocese, waived their potential concern. But, the victims didn’t get the same privilege. The lawyer who was allegedly over paid was allegedly given special treatment as the result of a connection to a judge.
Remember, SC is where Alex Murdaugh practiced in the legal community.
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Democracy,
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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I’d like to see a total ban on religion in Supreme Courts.
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Or at least after 6 weeks
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Thanks for the laugh. Poet
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S.C. is similar to Ohio.
“BS High” is a video that HBO is premiering today. Gov. Dewine didn’t choose to comment for the film. The film makers excuse for him, there were no laws on the book to prevent fake schools.
With the political dominance of Fordham in education “for” Ohio, someone who didn’t know better would ask why they didn’t lead an initiative to prevent fake schools. Anyone who knows about ECOT can anticipate the answer.
Btw- the HBO story is about federal tax dollars down the drain and individual lives set back.
Guardian has the story, 8-24-2023, about Bishop Sycamore high school.
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