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1. Jon Awbrey says:

   June 30, 2023 at 12:34 pm

   Did I miss the memo?

   When exactly did Congress make a law defining “religious grounds”?

   If someone believes it’s a sin to discriminate against people based on sexual orientation, when did Congress get the religious authority to dictate otherwise?

   If the Corporate Owners of Internet Service refuse to serve an admitted sinner of that sort, who’s to say they must?

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   • Catherine Blanche King says:

     June 30, 2023 at 1:07 pm

     John Awbrey writes: “If someone believes it’s a sin to discriminate against people based on sexual orientation, when did Congress get the religious authority to dictate otherwise?”

     Good point, if I read you rightly. It seems SCOTUS has overlooked the idea of public space governed by laws which is at the core of a secular government and includes religious freedom. No one can stop us from worshipping and attending whatever church we like.

     Businesses, however, DO business with the public in public spaces. It seems to me that the law allows not for freedom in the public space, but for intolerance to enter that space and quite literally “set up shop.” I don’t know of a law against intolerance,” but are we now to accept it a formal aspect of our public spaces? And with the movement of privatization of everything under the sun, when does such intolerance enter, say, the public park, or the sports stadium . . . fill in the blank.

     It seems to me that, when one takes up doing business, we also take up an already tacit acceptance of the whole idea of public space as secular and as hooked into at least the First Amendment. On the other side, government by individuals (which of course covers a wide even endless spectrum) is not a government for all but, in fact, is a mandate for chaos. In my view, that’s the LEGAL point.

     On the other hand, I do wish our current change agents would understand how long it has taken for racism and sexism to “wash out” of our culture . . . and it’s not finished yet. Why would anyone want to go to a business that didn’t want to serve them when they have options to do business elsewhere? Legally, I think SCOTUS has failed in its “interpretation” of the Constitution. Socially, however, I think the problem is not so clearly set. SOCIALLY, not much was ever solved (for a very long, anyway) by being forced. CBK

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2. Yvonne says:

   June 30, 2023 at 3:01 pm

   One of the best pieces I have read recently about Why DEMOCRACY is BEST. Hartmann lays it out well. Too bad we have judges who are GRIFTERS to the Max and don’t support democracy—what they should be protecting with every breath.

   Where’s the Proof Democracy is the Best System for America?

   https://hartmannreport.com/p/wheres-the-proof-democracy-is-the?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=302288&post_id=132141489&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

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3. D Heald says:

   June 30, 2023 at 8:53 pm

   Any FL teachers see hypocrisy in this statement by SCOUS Gorsuch? The First Amendment envisions the United States as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to think and speak as they wish, not as the government demands,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the court’s six conservative justices.

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