Bob Shepherd is a polymath and a daily reader of the blog. He has been involved in every aspect of educational publishing, and most recently, he was a teacher in Florida. He graciously offered to help me with two of my books—The Language Police and Slaying Goliath—by carefully editing them before they were turned in to the publisher. And we have never met!
He wrote on his own blog:
A few years back, a friend, someone whom I respect, challenged me on Facebook, saying that Trump might be a lot of things, but he wasn’t an actual Fascist. Well, I beg to differ. If it steps like a goose, . . .
Here are a few of the clear signs that, yes, Fascist is precisely the term to describe Trump, his supporters, and those who wish to assume the orange mantle:
Alliance with other Fascists/Authoritarians. D.T. allied himself with violent, extremist authoritarian nationalists around the globe—with, of course, his handler, Vladimir Putin, but also with Rodrigo Duterte, Narendra Modi, Jair Bolsonaro, Recep Erdoğan, Viktor Orbán and even, shockingly and weirdly, with Kim Jong-un. Hitler allied himself with extremist authoritarian nationalists around the globe—Mussolini of Italy, Hirohito of Japan, Tsar Boris III of Bulgaria, Horthy of Hungary, Antonescu of Romania, Tiso of Slovakia, and Pavelić‘of Croatia (see the Tripartite Pact signed in September of 1940 and joined later by other members of the Axis Powers).
Use of Violent Citizens’ Militias. D.T. supported and employed on numerous occasions armed, right-wing citizens’ militias, notably
a) at the March on Charlottesville by neo-Nazis who chanted “Jews will not replace us” and murdered an antifascist protestor;
b) when a group of these self-appointed militiamen invaded the Michigan Capitol and Legislature, armed, and plotted to kidnap and murder Michigan’s governor; AND
c) when several groups of these, including the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, broke into and ransacked the U.S. Capital, beat police officers, caused injuries that led to deaths, called for hanging the Vice President, and tried to overthrow the incoming government of the United States by preventing its certification.
Trump approved of all these actions by Citizens’ Militias, saying in the first instance that there were “Good people on both sides”—the Nazis and those opposing them–and in the latter instances that these were “patriots.” And, of course, he planned and stoked the last–the January 6th insurrection. In addition, he called on his Attorney General, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send federal troops to attack BLM protestors, which Barr sort of went along with his little green men (Esper and Milley, to their eternal credit, declined). Hitler, of course, infamously used citizens’ militias, the Sturmabteilung (the SA, or brownshirts), to provide protection at rallies, to attack enemies, and, with the SS, to carry out the infamous attacks on Jews during Kristallnacht. When asked to denounce white supremacy in a debate, Trump responded by saying, “Proud Boys—stand back and stand by.”
Monumentalism. D.T. loved monuments and monumental architecture and got a lot of political mileage out of riling up supporters of continuing to have on display in the public sphere commemorative statues of genocidal maniacs and enemies of the United States (Columbus; slave-owning men who led forces of insurrection during the Civil War). He organized a Republican Convention that was replete with monumental architecture and iconography. To do this, he violated the law by using the White House and its grounds as a political campaign/convention set. He called for absurdly expensive military parades of the kinds one sees in Communist China, North Korea. and Putin’s Russia. Trump called for building a massive “patriotic” sculpture garden. He held monumentalist nationalist events like the 4th of July military airshow at Mount Rushmore. Hitler, of course, employed Albert Speer to build monumentalist fascist architecture and devoted a great deal of his time to this.
The Cult of Personality. D.T. constantly referred to himself as “the best” or “the greatest” this or that and plastered his name on everything, from massive amounts of merch (Trump steaks, Trump straws, Trump flags) to buildings to letters accompanying Covid relief checks. He turned every discussion of every issue into one about himself and how great he is, even events that were supposed to be to honor Gold Star families or present information about how not to die from a virulent pandemic. Like a mob boss or any other Fascist leader, he required loyalty oaths and fired people who didn’t make them. At every cabinet meeting, cabinet members were expected to preface their remarks with long exhortations about the greatness of Trump (for an abject lesson in human self-abasement, go listen to a recording of one of these delivered by Mike Pence, to whom, of course, Trump showed no corresponding loyalty). He literally described himself as “the only” person who could solve the country’s problems. Clearly, Trump suffers from malignant narcissistic personality disorder. Conjure in your mind, if you have the stomach for it, a typical Trump rally. Trump created a cult of personality, just as all Fascist strongmen have done—Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Mao, Pinochet, the Kim Dynasty of North Korea, etc. The difference, of course, is that Trump was merely a WANNABE Fascist strongman.
The Myth of the Return to Racial and National Greatness. D.T. constantly referred to a mythical Golden Age to which he would return the country and even made this his official slogan (“Make America Great Again,” or MAGA). This was, of course, precisely what Hitler did, calling for a return to a time of Aryan and German greatness–the major theme of his propaganda and writing and speeches.
The Racial Supremacy Myth/Use of Racism to Mobilize the Masses. D.T. constantly issued racist dog-whistles, from his ad attacking the innocent members of the Central Park Five to his Obama birtherism to his calling asylum seekers “caravans” and “hordes” of “rapists and murders” to his references to “s—thole countries” to his “Good people on both sides” to his planning of rallies at sites of racist violence (near the Alamo, Tulsa, etc.) to his suggestions that China purposefully engineered and released SARS-COV-2, which Trump variously referred to, in his racist way, as the “China flu,” the “Wuhan flu,” and so on. And, of course, Trump built his whole campaign, initially, on the racist idea that America was being taken over by immigrants and that in order to “have a country,” we would need to keep out the brown-skinned hordes. In fact, this is why Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, and Stephen Miller chose Trump to run in 2015 to begin with. See the Frontline documentary about this, Zero Tolerance (2019). Trump called for the Border Patrol to SHOOT innocent asylum seekers and screamed at his Secretary of Homeland Security for saying that she couldn’t do that. Hitler baked anti-Semitism into the Nazi ideology. Both leaders ran concentration camps targeting members of particular ethnic groups. Both committed horrific Crimes against Humanity (Hitler’s genocides; Trump’s kidnapping of immigrant children and separation of these from their parents).
Scapegoating and Call for the Elimination of Enemies Within. D.T. constantly referred and continues to refer to “enemies within” that have to be eliminated “or you’re not going to have a country anymore.” These he refers to as Socialists, the “Radical Left,” “Antifa,’ and so on. One of Trump’s favorite and most often used slurs is Enemy of the People, a phrase that goes all the way back to Roman times and was famously the title of a great play by Ibsen. Calling for the elimination of enemies within is, of course, exactly what Hitler did, blaming Germany’s troubles, such as its loss of World War I and its hyperinflation on “enemies within”—Jews and Socialists and Communists—who had “stabbed the country in the back.” But it was, of course, the extreme left-wing Fascist leaders in Russia and East Germany, during the Stalin Era, who made Enemy of the People a standard catchphrase in the 20th Century, but Trump is too ignorant to know this, to know that every time he calls Biden or Fauci or whomever an “Enemy of the People,” he is sounding just like the murderous Joseph Stalin. (And yes, you can have Fascists who come to it from the left.) And even if Trump did know this, it probably wouldn’t bother him in the least bit. Trump has expressly said that he was unhappy with “his” generals because they didn’t show him the deference that Hitler’s generals showed to Hitler. Of course, Trump doesn’t know, because he is profoundly ignorant, a bear of very little brain, that a number of those very generals tried to assassinate Hitler several times. LOL. Be careful what you wish for, Donnie!
The Fascist Rally. D.T.’s main method of communication with his base was the large-scale rally—precisely the sort of method used by Hitler, with Goebbels and Speer as organizers and Leni Riefenstahl to film these.
Indoctrination of the Young. Trump called for the creation of an overtly exceptionalist, nationalist curriculum. Hitler did the same (see, for example, the Nazi textbook on Aryan supremacy, Rasse und Seele) and also created his Hitler Youth, his League of German Girls, and his Lebensborn Program.
The National Supremacy Myth. Trump’s American Exceptionalism, Hitler’s Übermenschen and Deutschland über alles. Same diseased thought.
Eugenics and Genetic Determinism. D.T. constantly referred to his “good genes” and what he called his “racehorse theory” of what constituted a fine woman–one who was properly bred. Despite the fact of his almost total scientific ignorance, he was and is committed to a myths of Eugenics and genetic determinism–one of the central myths, of course, of Nazi ideology. And this myth, of course, supports the racial and national superiority myths.
The Erasure of the Concept of a Nation of Laws and Totalitarian Insistence That His Will Is the Law. Trump insisted, “I have an Article 2 that says I can do anything I like as President.” He seems to think that he could just magically wave his hand and declassify documents and that, at any rate, rules about preservation and secrecy didn’t apply to him because NO RULES apply to him. Trump treated agencies and departments of the government as HIS, insisting, for example, that “His” generals and “His” DOJ and “His” everything else be absolutely subservient, and he fired or attempted to fire anyone who disagreed with him about anything. Barr went along with basically turning the DOJ into Trump’s private law firm. Hitler, of course, had the Enabling Act, making his will and the law identical. This the Fascists like Trump and Hitler share with Absolute Monarchists, the idea that L’état, c’est moi. Belief in the absolute authority of the Glorious Leader (Trump thought his image should be carved onto Mount Rushmore) is what puts the “total” in Totalitarianism.
The Portrayal of Himself as the Ultra-Masculine Leader, the Archetype of the Masculine, the Strongman. Trump loves to talk about how tough he is and constantly made threats via Tweet, yelled at staff, tore up briefs, and actually threw things when he got mad. And he constantly degraded women, speaking of grabbing them by the genitals, bragging about being able to get away with sexual assault, yelling at his female Secretary of Homeland Security and calling her “Honey,” making disgusting remarks about female celebrities and reporters. He actually ran a freaking old school beauty pageant. He bragged about walking in on the women while they were dressing because as owner, he could get away with it. He was a big pal of Jeffrey Epstein’s. Of course, Trump didn’t have the physique to portray himself as a male sex symbol, so he tweeted out pictures of his face Photoshopped onto the body of fictional boxer Rocky Balboa and actually sold this image on his website. Over twenty-five women have accused him of sexual assault. He paid off a porn star and a Playboy bunny to keep quiet about affairs with him. And in these respects, Trump was in the mold of other Fascist leaders who promulgated hyper-masculinized images of themselves (along with a big dose of hyper-sexism)–think Mussolini and Pinochet and Berlusconi and of Hitler’s military garb and Putin’s shirtless, horseback photoshoots.
One could go on and on. In Trump one had and has ALMOST the complete Fascist package. The one element that was missing was the competence to pull it off. Trump is far too ignorant and stupid to have effected a Fascist revolution in America. The next guy will have all Trump’s Fascist tendencies but be smarter and more knowledgeable.
P.S.: It is extraordinarily important to call Fascism out when it rears its monstrous head, to call it what it is. Why? Because silence is complicity. It’s letting it happen again. It’s making the same mistake that Germans made back in 1932-33, expecting that it’s not going to be all that bad. That experience is behind us all now. We are supposed to know better. It CAN get that bad, that quickly. Been there, done that. In the middle of the last century, we fought a war to end this shit. Here we are seeing it again, right here, on our soil. Who would have imagined that we would have slid so far backward? These must be more than just words: Never again.
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The American MAGA Fascist.
“MAGA Fascist”
Lloyd, the above in Hunglish reads as “you are a fascist”. In proper Hungarian it’s “Maga fasiszta!”.
The language of fascism is international, easily understood in any country.
Well observed, Máté!
Dear Diane and followers of this blog,
Is Donald Trump and his allies Fascist?
No.
They are just broken people. They are like so many and crying out for help. Something happened to them.
What we need to do as a civilization is to all come together.
A blog post like this more times than not in the end creates more divide.
What we need to do with people like Donald Trump and his allies is sit down with them. Have a coffee. A real meaningful conversation. Lend an ear. Ask them what happened to them. Really get them to open up. To stop running from themselves.
Please picture that large boulder chasing after Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark that’s how most people live.
When we are truthful. Talk of our past openly. That we have had a horrific experience, if that be bullied, sexually assaulted, that we struggle with our own identity, if we are a male or a female. And because of this there is identity theft. We have really no idea who we are. And because we don’t, we act out like we not only see in Donald Trump and his allies, but just about every single human being.
And the answer to our worldly problems is that we take ownership of our past. Be truthful of our events. Tell people. Tell everyone what happened to you. In doing so you’ll free that boulder that rests on your back. You’ll be free.
So, please stop lashing out at others. That isn’t going to get us towards peace. We have been doing that method most likely going back to the beginning of time.
It is time. Now. That we all change. Change our ways.
It is time that we do what I’ve outlined above.
If you need help freeing yourself all the answers can be found at https://yohnke.com and you are most welcome phoning me at 306.227.6379 or 306.652.3898 and it will be free and will always be free to you.
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
Miles, thank you for your comment.
I have a brother and a sister who are Trumpers. I have tried to do what you recommend. It’s like talking to the wall. They are in a cult. No matter what Trump says or does, they dismiss it as lies if it’s negative.
I know what you mean, Diane. I have a family member who used to like Trump. I don’t know if she still does. We don’t really talk politics. But she’s so much fun and we have a great time together. I try to meet her on the level I can connect with her. That means travel, sitting by the pool having a raspberry-lime rickey 🙂 , taking a walk, finding the common between us rather than the conflict. But I know how hurtful it can be when you see a loved one go down what you think is such a wrong path – no matter what it is. It’s really painful.
Same here, Mamie. Trump has created a rift. I’m from a large family—8 children. The two Trumpers happen to be the ones with the least education.
“They are in a cult.” I have had direct experience of this, a girlfriend who was brainwashed by Scientologists, a friend who grew up in the infamous cult known as The Family, living next door to Moonies, and a dear friend who became involved with a truly ridiculous New Age UFO Cult called Marconics. I agree that Trumpanzeeism is a cult. A large and dangerous cult. Here, some hard-won observations about these groups and how they operate:
Dear Diane, Marnie, others,
One has to keep trying with these people. It has nothing to do about Donald Trump. These people as outlined in my original reply are broken people, like Donald Trump, like his allies, like much of this world. Again, like I stated in my original reply.
You have to have real meaningful talks with those before you. Get them to open up about their life. Their joys. Their sorrow. And really listen. Really help.
But one really can’t help until they resolve their own issues. Be true to themselves.
We’ve been lashing out at each other long before Donald Trump.
Why do we lash out?
Because we’re not happy.
“We buy things we don’t need with money we don’t have to impress people we don’t like.” – Dave Ramsey
“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.” – John Lennon
With the never-ending mass shootings occurring and people dying from overdoses, not once have I heard the word ‘happy’ brought up in a press conference. Not once. You’d think this would be the central part of the solution, and yet, not once has it ever come up. Don’t you think there is something terribly wrong with that? Don’t you think that all any of us want to be is happy? And yet, it is rarely talked about. You never hear a politician talking about happiness on her or his main platform.
Imagine if we were happy. Content. We wouldn’t harm one another. We wouldn’t harm ourselves. We wouldn’t find cannabis shops & liquor stores on every block. We wouldn’t find every other commercial being a gambling one. We wouldn’t buy needlessly. We would be content. Happy. At peace with oneself.
Shouldn’t we be hearing about ‘happiness’ more often? More than ‘Happy Birthday.’ ‘Happy New Year.’ Do we even think about the essence of the word ‘happy’ in that context? And yet, that is all anyone of us want to be. Don’t you think it is time we ask politicians to champion happiness? For media outlets to talk about happiness? Wouldn’t you love to hear that happiness was up in the last quarter?
It is time we bring an end to mass shootings.
It is time we bring an end to people dying from drug overdoses.
It is time we stop harming others.
It is time we stop harming ourselves.
It is time we get ‘happy’ into the consciousness of humankind.
It is time we get ‘happy.’
How do you get happy? You start asking yourself ‘why.’
Why” is the most important word that should be consuming your daily thoughts.
At every turn you should be asking yourself, “why?” For instance… Why do I need this? Why do I act like this? Why did I say that? The word “why” should be something you’re pondering many times throughout each day. Everything you do needs to be supported with “why” and you must be truly honest with the answer you give yourself. Take ownership of your “why.” Own your “why.”
As one example, you’re entertaining the idea of buying a new clothing item. Why are you thinking about it? Is it something that is truly required or is there an empty feeling subsiding within you? Be honest with yourself. If it is an empty feeling, ask yourself why. Where does this empty feeling stem from? Once you address this honestly; you’ll get more comfortable within your own skin and within your own mind.
You can have your breakthrough from whatever you may have experienced, whether it be sexual assault, mental illness, environmental upbringing, bullying and such. This is the most important process you can do for yourself to reach inner peace and to truly be happy.
Thank you so very much for reading. For your time. Time is all we have. Be up-beat, not beat-up with your time.
Love,
Miles Patrick Yohnke
Sitting down and having a heart-to-heart conversation with Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, George Santos, DeSantis, etc., ad nauseam????????????!!!! Surely you jest. It’s like trying to have a meaningful conversation with a rabid pit bull or hyena. Flash back to the 1930s: Hey, let’s sit down and have friendly chats with Stalin, Mussolini or Hitler.
You are wise, Jersey Joe.
Nailed it, JJ!
Feel good horse manure. Selling product wherever you can, eh! At least in America (yes, I see you’re north of the border) there are plenty of suckers to pay you.
“What we need to do with people like Donald Trump and his allies is sit down with them. Have a coffee.”
I wonder how that would go. How that would reverse the politicization of SCOTUS, how that would reverse all these anti-CRT, anti-woke, anti-education bills in TN, FL,etc.
I am afraid People like Trump prefer guns over coffee. People fueled with ideology respond only to the sight of muscle. They have seen the muscle larger than theirs during the last presidential elections, but in many Southern states they can march ahead unopposed.
So no, a speeding train will not slow down at the sight of a Starbucks.
So wisely said
Please explain to me how one should sit down and talk over coffee to someone who believes Democratic leadership are running a satanic pedophile ring and that all liberals are part of the conspiracy, allowing child trafficking to happen right under our noses. Please. And how I should take them seriously. And how I should speak to them in a way that they will listen and not say something like, “I know it, I don’t need fake news”? How would you discuss with the first couple in this video? The floor is yours.
My next door neighbor’s father explained to me a year and a half ago that he has “natural immunity” and isn’t “about to let them inject me with microchips made by Bill Gates because what kind of fool do they think I am?” Another neighbor’s kid patiently explained to me that Hitler was the savior of Germany and that the Holocaust was made up by Jews.
Conversations with Flor-uh-duh Man
I often make comments about talking to our neighbors, but I would not go anywhere near yours! Give me a Midwestern hypocrite over a Florida believer any day!
An interesting coincidence, GregB and Bob: I flipped to another screen on this machine after reading your posts and an article about the history of inhumane dolphin shows in Florida popped up.
“Day of the Dolphin: How Vintage Florida Kitsch Masked a Grim Reality” (2019)
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/day-of-the-dolphin/
I have to wonder that at some point in the future (after we have bitten the dust probably) a more enlightened era will come upon the U.S. and the world. What will they think of all of us, back here in 2023?
Trump and his ilk seem to have turned much of the nation into a freak show -bottled up in a sort of digital aquarium….actually, aquariums (very plural and increasing exponentially considering the kaleidoscopic nature of the internet).
Photos from the 1950s and 60s have that super-saturated color…hue. What will our images, our clothing and hairdos look like, judged from a more humane perspective? (If that is the way the future goes.)
The dolphin shows seemed to capitalize on some of the worst traits of human nature. Odd and troubling how Florida and the nation sometimes seem to have progressed very little since then. And, we’ve become the entertainment.
What a sad story. In the future, some decades hence, most people will be vegetarians. Maybe it will become illegal to eat the flesh of another living creature. I will miss hamburgers.
I do think that Don the Con is a deeply broken person. In the end, his one workable defense might be that he is insane.
INT. OVAL OFFICE – DAY
Trump sitting behind the Resolute Desk. Camera back to reveal Rod Serling standing D.R.
SERLING
His name, Mr. Little. A man with little education, little taste, little knowledge, little concern for other people. Neglected as a child, he grew into a black hole of neediness. And so he used Daddy’s money to build big, erected his name in Midas-gold letters across the landscape–his every action screaming, “I am worth something.” Everything became a zero-sum game. If someone else failed or was worse off, he was better, a “winner,” and so he cheated and harassed and ridiculed the unfortunate, the stranger, the down and out; appealed to the basest instincts of the basest among us; huffed and puffed and blew himself to gigantic proportions, at least in his own little brain. A twisted, malignant, metastasizing tumor of need and narcissism and knee-jerk nastiness, Mr. Little doesn’t know much, but the biggest thing he doesn’t know is that he just stepped over into a place where everything is bigger than he is, where everything is just beyond the grasp of his little mind and his little hands. He just stepped over into . . . The Twilight Zone.
“If it steps like a goose….”
The first of many great lines, Bob.
Lincoln is rated by historians as our best president.
Trump is the Anti-Lincoln.
I would never sully the name of Lincoln with any comparisons to the Idiot, pro or con. The Idiot has no decency, intellect, morals, scruples, empathy, understanding, compassion, courtesy, or anything that would make him marginally useful or worth paying attention to as a human being. No need to bring any president at any time into the conversation. This guy is a malignant aberration who embodies the very worst of anything that claims to be American. But that’s just me.
True that, as my son used to say.
But Trump is and will be compared and ranked and, yes, mourned by some when his inevitable day of death arrives -whenever that may be.
He will be in history books and I would hope no future Florida governors try to exorcise him out of those texts.
It is a dark chapter in U.S. history.
We know neither will be exercised out!
“In Trump one had and has ALMOST the complete Fascist package. The one element that was missing was the competence to pull it off. ”
I do not think he lacked competence, since I wouldn’t give too much credit to the competence of the fascist leaders. I think Trump simply encountered greater resistance from his surrounding country than Hitler did.
I wouldn’t talk about Trumpism in past tense either. The whole thing is far from over. Anti wokeism is winning out in red states and I while I can’t imagine its spreading into CA, it may very well lead to a split of the US. It’s not unprecedented that countries get split by ideology.
Trump was hoping for a top-down revolution. Failed. But Hitler also failed a few times; let us not forget, he wrote the Mein Kampf in prison.
The correct approach is what’s happening with anti-wokeism: it spreads from state to state, producing bolder and bolder laws in red states: FL, TN, OH, etc. In these states there is no hope to stop the spreading of these laws, and the threat is tangible.
Yeah. My fear: January 6th was just his Beer Hall Putsch. At least Germany sort of locked Hitler up after this. We didn’t even do that after Jabba the Trump’s multiple simultaneous attempts to overthrow our incoming government.
“Spreads from state to state,” if you mean the plan crafted at EPPC in D.C. –
The 74 posted an article, 5-2-2023. Stanley Kurtz (EPPC), “launched a crusade that shaped…GOP bills across the U.S.” The article’s title, “The Conservative Scholar Who Convinced GOP Lawmakers Civics Conceals CRT.”
EPPC’s playbook (the organization is heavily conservative Catholic) is of minor or no interest among public education’s defenders, which makes a win for public schools and liberalism a long shot.
Wise, Mr. Wierdl!!!
Listen to Professor Wierdl. He groks this.
@Bob “The Legend Shepherd — Yet another moment from “Charvet’s In the trenches,” as your article reminds me of a simple government terminology assignment on “-isms” and all the rest that goes along with types of governments. I recall looking down at one of the terms the kids put on their paper (we made 6 X 18 papers with a colored border — [mneumonic device] to be place around the room to support learning). It seemed like a “blip” but I looked at the word FASCISM and it made sense on where the country was headed. The dots all lined up. “No, it can’t be. We are the good guys, right?” But, as I learned, it happens when people are not WOKE as they say. They swim in the pot like the proverbial frog and then one morning people say, “How could this happen?” History tells us that it happened to democratic nations (willingly) just like when one invites evil into their home. And I don’t claim to know it all, but recently we had Americans relishing the Authoritarian regimes https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/1111274698/how-the-american-right-became-aligned-with-hungary-and-its-authoritarian-leader
I told my students, “Wake up people. This is how it will go down with no shots fired. The USA will go to the highest bidder and one day we will wake up and it will not be America anymore.” I do recall studying (with my son) The Lord of Flies. One of the study questions, “Is man inherently evil?” And left unattended does that evil flourish? Poets say, “True character is doing the right thing when no one is watching.” I just don’t get it anymore. That’s why diplomacy is so important, well we can try, right? But, to Bob’s point, Webster tells us: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Is there a parallel here?
just like when one invites evil into one’s home
LOL. LOVE this use of the vampire myth. You have to invite the evil in, and once you do, . . .
“No, it can’t be. We are the good guys, right?”
It’s difficult to find another country that matched Germany’s achievements in music and science before and even in the beginning of the 20th century. So it was not without basis that they thought, they were the greatest people who needed to be followed by all others.
I cannot recall a single example when exclamations beginning with “We are the best…” ended well.
@Mate — Kind of like when someone on Survivor or Big Brother says, “I got this. This game is in my control…” Kiss of death.
Well said, Máté!
It’s a nearly perfect textbook case of fascism, really.
Anybody who votes Republican at this point, at whatever level– or since 2016, anyway– however naive, right-wing media blinkered, single-issue oriented, or whatever, is acting in a grotesquely irresponsible manner, hurting basic human rights (women, etc), and promoting violence, election fraud, and treason.
But, right, how do we say this without further entrenching MAGA in their fascist positions? Explaining the stakes as clearly as possible seems like about all one can do. The fascists are losing the war of attrition and if it wasn’t for monopoly capital and stupid bigots they’d have abandoned the field entirely by now, as many responsible former Republicans already have.
Thanks for making the case so plainly, Mr. Sheperd.
The fascists are losing the war of attrition
GOP. The Greying Old Party. LOL.
And yeah, there is no winning over those nutcases (picture a heart shriveled and hard as a walnut). All one can do is attempt to teach their children’s children better.
Fascism is never identical country to country.
“Trump represents a particularly American form of Fascism ”
– Carl Bernstein WAPO.
“When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross (or a Bible).” –falsely attributed to Sinclair Lewis
see
https://english.illinoisstate.edu/sinclairlewis/sinclair_lewis/faq/faq-homepage.shtml
Thanks for sharing this, Diane. So, here we are. Sexual predator Donald Trump is again the leading candidate for the Repugnican nomination for president. It’s come to that.
Yes, but he has no chance for the presidency. So that is good news.
That Biden runs again is not good news, either. IMO.
That Biden should run again is crazy.
American fascism is a distinct variety of fascism. The problem is that too many equate it with Naziism and its atrocities. While there are many, many similarities, especially in the the build up to taking power, the similarities end there. The whole point of modern fascism is that it will not have concentration or death camps, or stories with “Don’t Shop at Jewish Stores.” Public policies and the discrepancies in enforcing them will be the more refined way of imposing their agenda. I explained this in a comment I made on a post here in December 2016 and I believe every word still holds up. https://dianeravitch.net/2016/12/22/trump-national-security-advisor-met-with-austrian-rightist-leader-at-trump-tower/
I do not see equating Trumpish Fascism with Naziism as a “problem,” given all the obvious similarities (see the list above). And the similarities do not end there. As you rightly point out in comments appended to the post that you link to above, there is a core element of Fascism that I failed to mention above–its atavistic, superstitious primitivism and antiintellectualism. This was true of the Nazi version as well as of other versions of Fascism, such as Mussolinis. With regard to where this all stops–I wouldn’t be so sure that we could not possibly end up with concentration camps and closed-down shops belonging to targeted groups. And I don’t believe you actually think that, Greg. Do you actually believe that if Trump and Gosar and MTG and Gaetz achieved thoroughgoing power, including absolutist control of all the branches of government and of all the vehicles of state power (the military, the courts, the police), that they would balk at committing atrocities? Trump? This is the guy who screamed at his Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security because she would not order Border Patrol officers TO SHOOT unarmed alyslum seekers.
To shoot them.
I agree that this stuff will take its peculiarly American form. That it will use references to freedom and God and the Bible and the Constitution. But Fascists always end up resort to force–to goons breaking down the doors of opponents, to rubber-stamp show trials and imprisonments.
To my credit, I did say in the post, above, that these “are a few of the clear signs”–“a few,” not a complete accounting. And I did hint at the atavism in my discussion of Trump’s Fascist appeal to return to a Golden Age of Greatness–a legacy of European and, in particular, German Romanticism and Philology-Based Comparative Mythology of the kind found in Muller. The appeal of Trump to primitive ignorance is clear enough. “I love the uneducated,” he said, in a rare moment of truthiness.
I see it insofar as fascists will claim since they do not have death camps or anti-Jewish/”others” public policies, they are not like Nazis. Technically they will be correct. I have had this discussion with a constitutional law professor who was as first skeptical and now thinks I have a point. Central to this strategy is to replace constitutional law with contract law and maintain the appearance of the former. Actually, “maintain the appearance of” is the key; it’s not how it looks or sounds, it’s what it does. So rather than fundamental constitutional rights, individuals will be able to negotiate some away in order to gain other privileges, like home ownership in an exclusive neighborhood. There will also be enclaves for certain “moralities” and “ethnicities” to keep them separate from places not tainted by wokeness. Gays will be able to go to New Orleans, Provincetown, San Francisco, West Hollywood, but they will have to keep their “proclivities” there, because they will be illegal or shunned elsewhere, with legal force. Same for Blacks in Atlanta, Baltimore, and other majority Black cities.
American fascism will be equipped with laws and selective enforcement of them to push people into areas that are “free” but restricted. Just because the brutality is not a visceral does not make it any less fascist. The American version is just an evolving refinement of it. And I have no doubt the people you mention would more than gladly engage in public violence. But American fascism will make the threat of violence seem so inevitable, with the force of law interpretation, with a selective law enforcement staffing, and a judiciary that will make precedent out of creating precedent out of whole cloth. It will not be an Orwellian or “Brazil” (movie)-like set. It will not be concentration camps and public rallies. It will be very normal for those who benefit and they will always question why those who don’t won’t just get with the program. The only minority rights that matter under this world will be the right to agree with the majority. It will be the political Willie Wonka Golden Ticket.
Well argued, Greg.
But they will still knock down doors when need be, according to their own determinations, which, in the case of a particular governor, is any time he feels a little aggrieved.
The refinement is already in place. Taxpayers have made Catholic organizations the nation’s 3rd largest employer. In the SCOTUS Biel v. St. James Catholic school decision, the judges exempted religious schools from civi rights employment law. Next to come, exemptions for all of the other religious organizations.
Secondly, one in 6 hospitals are Catholic. To the extent that they follow edicts from the Fox-watching Catholic bishops (one-half of the bishops) we will witness discrimination against women and people who are gay.
“The whole point of modern fascism is that it will not have concentration or death camps, or stories with “Don’t Shop at Jewish Stores.” ”
I wouldn’t bet on this claim more than a quarter.
While conquering the world economy has become more sophisticated and effective than the use military force, suppressing resistance among its own people in a country can be dictated by hatred and ideology rather than rational thought.
I should have used the world “American” rather than “modern.” I have no doubt this would happen in some other nations — Rwanda is the most obvious example in recent memory.
Americans in general and liberals in particular are more likely to adhere to unjust laws than engage in civil disobedience. We have an inherent trust in the law that leaves most of us as we emerge from puberty. Usually, those on the Left will cheer on the few that resist, but not much more. When laws outlawing or restricting behavior, science, or based on some other arbitrary characteristic are allowed to pass and some part of a judiciary — which is considered to be legitimate even if there is widespread belief that certain actors in the process aren’t — affirms them, there is no need for camps or specific laws against religions or ethnicities. Its enforcement that matters. Ask, for example, Sandra Bland if dying in police custody matters differently from a death in a camp. Or any young Black man who happens to decide to go to the grocery store at the wrong time in the wrong the place.
What really matters are the habits of the tribe, and quite quickly, a new norm becomes established. Imagine that it’s the summer of 2020 again and that a different American President–Ronald Drumpf–calls upon his Department of Homeland Security to shoot to kill the protestors, calls on his Defense Department to field the military (in direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act) to attack the protestors, and calls on his Justice Department to coordinate the murder, beating, and imprisonment of the protestors. Trump tried to do these things, and his people balked (with the sole exception of Barr at Justice, who at first sent in Little Green Men, or soldiers without insignia, as Putin did in Crimea and the Donbas, but soon stopped that). But suppose that President Drumpf’s handpicked people are yes-men of the kind who put the “total” in “totalitarianism.” How long does it take for that kind of state violence to become the new norm and for people to become afraid to act in the face of the certainty of it?
Anyone who doubts that our current Trumpish Repugnican “leaders” would use extreme violence if they could get away with it has not been paying attention.
I think that Greg is correct in saying that the American Reich-wing would attach to their state violence a veneer of judicial propriety–that its leaders would say that freedom and dissent were being crushed in the name of liberty, the Constitution was being shredded in order to uphold the Constitution, that people were being beaten and maimed and killed in the name of the Prince of Peace, but that they would use state violence, I have even less doubt than does Professor Wierdl. I wouldn’t risk my quarter.
And Greg knows this better than almost anyone does–how Hitler and Stalin and Mussolini and Pinochet conducted horrendously illegal acts under legal and judicial cover, via supposedly legal and judicial means. Same playbook. Different stage.
“American fascism is a distinct variety of fascism.”
For these meals, Goehring might be the greatest cook. He says:
Our movement took a grip on cowardly Marxism and from it extracted the meaning of socialism. It also took from the cowardly middle-class parties their nationalism. Throwing both into the cauldron of our way of life there emerged, as clear as a crystal, the synthesis — German National Socialism.
Nailed it
If Bob Shepherd does not convince you of Trump’s fascist nature, try Robert O Paxton, who pretty much wrote the book on Twentieth Century fascism and an essay after Jan 6 in which he declared his agreement with the voices making that case.
Quacks like a duck.
I’ve been told that it is impolite to answer a question with a question. . . so. . .
Does a wild bear shit in the woods?
As opposed to a tame one? Actually, I think Gentle Ben was probably toilet trained. And having hiked in the wild, I’ve often… TMI?
Exactly. A simple yes would have sufficed. No amount of explanation will change the minds of those who refuse to see the obvious.
No it’s not Duane. Google Socrates ..
Then read Karl Popper on Plato’s authoritarianism.
Yes! Excellent analysis. Here’s my column on that (in which I underestimated his chances of winning):
Can Despotism Happen Here?
by Jack Burgess
In 1935, with Mussolini and Hitler consolidating power in Europe, Pulitzer prize-winning novelist, Sinclair Lewis, answered the question many were wondering about in, It Can’t Happen Here. His chief character, Buzz Windrip, exploits the fears and hard times of ordinary Americans to get their votes for President, and become an American dictator.
Fortunately, America of the ‘30’s found its strongman in Franklin Roosevelt, elected President four times and guiding the nation out of the Great Depression and through World War II. Unlike fascist dictators, FDR, confined to a wheelchair, didn’t use strong-arm tactics to hold power, but by providing the governmental programs people needed, such as Social Security, unemployment compensation, a minimum wage, and the right to join unions, among other things. FDR had come to the Presidency well-qualified by a life of public service, including governor of New York, and his programs were dramatically successful in changing American life for the better.
The U.S. faced another kind of repression after WWII, as paranoia about communism was created and manipulated by demagogues seeking power. Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy rose to prominence alleging that Democrat Roosevelt and his successor, Harry Truman, allowed crooks and communists to thrive within our government. McCarthy, aided by his controversial attorney, Roy Cohn, destroyed the careers of politicians, diplomats, writers, and movie directors—with many having to go to Europe to find work because they were “blacklisted.”
In 1973, Roy Cohn represented and was mentor to Donald Trump, when Trump was charged with housing discrimination. We won’t use Cohn in McCarthyism’s favorite ploy, guilt by association, but their relationship is fact, and Cohn’s questionable, scorched-earth tactics are apparent in Trump, who vilifies his opponents without regard to truth or fairness.
Mr. Trump, who bears a striking physical resemblance to Italian dictator Benito Mussolini–check it out on You Tube–has made considerable use of one of Hitler’s favorite tactics, The Big Lie. The idea is that if you say something outrageous enough, often enough, and loud enough, people will believe it, regardless of how ridiculous. Hitler’s biggest lie was to blame Jews for all of Germany’s problems. Trump and supporters have used this tactic on Mexicans, Muslims, and Obama, claiming he wasn’t really an American. They’ve used it on Obamacare, claiming it’s failed, even as we all benefit, and on the economic program under Obama, which saved our economy from the disastrous condition in which George W. Bush left it. Now Trump claims the election is rigged.
Like Hitler, Trump attacks the weak, the handicapped, the foreigner, blaming them for all our problems. Implicit in authoritarianism is that women, or any people not masculine enough, are weak. Trump hates losers. Like any would-be strong-man, he’s outraged when an “inferior” woman, or other person challenges him. Nor has he rejected the support of neo-Nazis and members of the KKK.
Strongmen tend to bring themselves down by overreaching. Hitler took most of Europe, but stupidly invaded Russia and declared war on the U.S. Trump—of “reality” show fame—has apparently overreached by running for President of the United States, a position for which he has little preparation or qualification. He also has underestimated Hillary Clinton, mere woman that she is, and he’s clearly in over his head. Trump says only he can “make America great again,” and “what have you got to lose?” One might look at Hitler’s Germany after World War II for an answer to that.
Trump and his team resemble the fascists, too, in their violence and threats of violence. Tearing down Clinton yard signs is the least of it. Physical attacks at Trump rallies, Trump joking that he could shoot someone in public with impunity, that he can grab women anywhere, seemingly encouraging his followers to attack demonstrators at his rallies, seeming to invite 2nd Amendment people to go after Clinton, threatening to jail his opponent, and saying he might not accept the results of the election, resemble the Nazi Brown Shirts of Germany who bludgeoned their way to power.
Yes, despotism can happen here. Whether it takes over our country depends on how seriously the media does its duty to inform voters, and, ultimately, how we and our fellow Americans vote.
(Ohio writer Jack Burgess is a retired history and political science teacher).
A quote from Max Naumann who led the League of National German Jews- “The election campaign (1933) must not be a struggle of religious conception, it must be a decisiveness struggle about our Germaness.”
We’re witnessing it in the distancing of “culture wars” from the campaign’s origin among leaders in right wing Catholic/Christian religion.
Naumann may have shared a similar view with current liberals and conservatives, those who don’t feel nor care about what the conservative churches do to women and people who are gay. The observation is confirmed in the comments of many at the blog – a few exceptions who frequently express concern, Bob and Greg.
Here’s great anti-fascist George Orwell’s best stab at defining “the much abused term” of fascism in 1944.
“Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it. It seems to me nonsense, in a period like our own, to think that one can avoid writing of such subjects.”
–George Orwell, “Why I Write,” 1946
Given the dangers posed by Fascism and given its rise, nationally and here at home, and, in particular, given the increase in use of STATE VIOLENCE, including legal violence, to crush dissent, NOT writing about it now is irresponsible.
cx: internationally and here at home
And as for this supposed difficulty in defining Fascism, I think that that’s utterly bs. That there are people who think that the Earth is flat does not make it silly to write about orbital mechanics.
I agree. It’s not necessary to give the definition of the word as*hole before using it and getting our point across to a pleasing degree.
I have no idea what this means in the Orwell quote:
“Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one — not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make.”
WTH are the “admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make”???
I like Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language.” But THIS feels like a cop out.
Also, Orwell is referring to something ENTIRELY different than what Bob Shepherd wrote. I believe Orwell would agree with Bob because Bob is writing about a political act, done by a politician with immense power, not something an artist or shopkeeper does.
Orwell did some great work, but even Homer nods, as the classics professors used to say.
Wow … Diane & Bob … thoughtful, thought-provoking post indeed. It summarizes in one place all the things we knew, the things we had seen with our own eyes, but they were scattered throughout our brain cells. This post brings them all together and paints a very vividly ugly picture about what would be in our future if he were ever allowed to return to the Oval Office. It simply CANNOT happen!!! Thanks Bob, and thank you Diane, for sharing his work! Excellent post!
Thanks, Jill! And much love to you and yours.
Awww … thank you, Bob! And to you and yours as well!
Zappa was brilliant. And oh Lord what a fine guitarist. Someone who actually knew the instrument.
“The two Trumpers with the least education. What does that mean? Explanation please….
What are you referring to here, Mr. Douglas?
Hi Bob , Diane’s reply.
It’s sad but not surprising.
“I love the uneducated.” –Donald Trump
He’s referring to the college educated ofthe past 40+ years bob.
“Question”. Name 3 ways our country gotten better the las 3 years..
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/06/15/biden-vs-trump-the-college-education-divide-may-be-wider-than-ever/?sh=3d7944e37999
A fifty percent reduction in child poverty
A massive increase in military aid to Ukraine and a corresponding massive increase in alliance resolve to support Ukraine against the multiple violations of international law being perpetrated by Russia
A cap of $2,000 per year for drug costs to seniors on Medicare
Oh, and where is the so amazing, you’re not going to believe how amazing it is, Trump Healthcare Plan to “replace Obamacare” that he was going to have in “a couple weeks” several years ago? ROFLMAO.
And by “Trump” I mean, of course, the individual found by a jury, last week, to be a sexual predator.
So, no, he’s not “referring to the college educated of the past 40+ years, Bob.” LOL.
Those are “Answer” to “Question.” lol
The least educated of her siblings are the Trumpers. This is not surprising.
Define “educated.”
Oh, no, Mr. Douglas. Please, go right ahead. LMAO.
What do you think “two [cult members] with the least education” means? Why should you get an explanation when you will not provide one for yourself?
Name three ways our country got worse in the las 3 years.
Please give us your definition of “educated.”
“Who’s that trip-trapping over my bridge?”
he’s referring to the college educated ofthe past 40+ years bob.
The above quote is not mine..
Actually, no, Trump isn’t really a fascist. He’s the same crook as every other elected official, except he’s open and honest about how everything in the USA (which is a plutocracy) is run on money. Obama etc pretend that they are interested in public service while making decisions based preferring donors, Trump just drops the pretending about public service bit and openly rules in favor of donors.
The USA is now hopelessly corrupted by Citizens United and rule by the rich and cannot be fixed, ever.
Thank you for stating the truth..
Honest trump, the caretaker of truth.
Mate, did you mean “caretaker” or “pallbearer?”
Both appear to be true. Here in TN Donny is our truth teller.
harry-
You shouldn’t omit how taxpayers have made Catholic organizations the nation’s 3rd largest employer. You should note that one in 6 hospitals are Catholic (non-profits). Research showed they provide no more indigent care than other private hospitals. You should include an observation about how almost half of Catholic bishops prefer Fox’s lies. Unlike the other corporate-owned networks, Fox refuses to correct obvious falsehoods. Since this blog specializes in education, you could mention that state Catholic Conferences have been very successful in getting money for their religion by initiating school choice legislation. You could inform readers that the anti-woke campaign is courtesy of staff at the heavily Catholic, EPPC.
The nation’s most dangerous critic of liberalism is Harvard Prof. Adrian Vermuele who happens to advocate for Catholics to get preference in immigration. And, you could observe that the Catholic Church overtly discriminates agains women and people who are gay. I will note for you that only about 5% of Catholics are Black.
Yes, the U.S. is a plutocracy and the SCOTUS judges who are conservative Catholic rendered the Citizen’s United decision. 63% of White Catholics who attend church regularly voted for Trump in 2020.
If you review Democratic-proposed legislation you will find that a preponderance of it addresses the interests of the 90%. It explains why union members, racial minorities and college-educated women, interested in their rights, shun the GOP.
The greedy rich and a lot of old White guys who are racists and sexist glom onto the GOP in efforts to perpetuate their entitlement.
Add to the Democratic column, young Whites who are among the 90% that don’t buy into the discriminatory status conferred on older White men who don’t merit it.
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I tread softly when it comes to making comparisons to Donald Trump & Hitler, to trumpism and fascism, for it can often sound like sour grapes, like hyperbole. But last Friday, Diane Ravitch dedicated the bulk of one post to Bob Shepherd, one of the wisest men I know of, and his post about the comparisons of Trump and his ideology, if he can be said to have one, vs that of fascist leaders in the past, primarily Hitler. I think he makes his point quite well. The post is a bit long, but fascinating and thought-provoking, so I really hope you’ll take the time to read it. Thank you, Diane and Bob!