Lindsay Owens and David Dayen note that some of the most outspoken critics of Biden’s decision to forgive up to $20,000 in student debt are Obama-era economists. Republicans have called it “socialism” and worse, but some Democratic economists are also upset. Owens and Dayen attribute their anger to the failure of Obama’s policy to solve the home foreclosure crisis.
They write:
President Biden’s long-awaited decision to wipe out up to $20,000 in student debt was met with joy and relief by millions of borrowers, and a temper tantrum from centrist economists.null
Moments after the announcement, former Council of Economic Advisers Chair Jason Furman took to Twitter with a dozen tweets skewering the proposal as “reckless,” “pouring … gasoline on the inflationary fire,” and an example of executive branch overreach (“Even if technically legal I don’t like this amount of unilateral Presidential power.”). Brookings economist Melissa Kearny called the proposal “astonishingly bad policy” and puzzled over whether economists inside the administration were “all hanging their heads in defeat.” Ben Ritz, the head of a centrist think tank, went so far as to call for the staff who worked on the proposal to be fired after the midterms.
Histrionics are nothing new on Twitter, but it’s worth examining why this proposal has evoked such strong reactions. Elizabeth Popp Berman has argued in the Prospect that student loan forgiveness is a threat to the economic style of reasoning that dominates Washington policy circles. That’s correct. But President Biden’s elegant and forceful approach to tackling the student loan crisis also may feel like a personal rebuke to those who once worked alongside President Obama as he utterly failed to solve the debt crisis he inherited.
Let’s be very clear: The Obama administration’s bungled policy to help underwater borrowers and to stem the tide of devastating foreclosures, carried out by many of the same people carping about Biden’s student loan cancellation, led directly to nearly ten million families losing their homes. This failure of debt relief was immoral and catastrophic, both for the lives of those involved and for the principle of taking bold government action to protect the public. It set the Democratic Party back years. And those throwing a fit about Biden’s debt relief plan now are doing so because it exposes the disaster they precipitated on the American people.
One reason the Obama administration failed to swiftly help homeowners was their obsession with ensuring their policies didn’t help the “wrong” type of debtor.
President Obama campaigned on an aggressive platform to prevent foreclosures. Larry Summers, one of the critics of Biden’s student debt relief, promised during the Obama transition in a letter to Congress that the administration “will commit substantial resources of $50-100B to a sweeping effort to address the foreclosure crisis.” The plan had two parts: “helping to reduce mortgage payments for economically stressed but responsible homeowners,” and “reforming our bankruptcy laws” by allowing judges in bankruptcy proceedings to write down mortgage principal and interest, a policy known as “cramdown.”
The administration accomplished neither. On cramdown, the administration didn’t fight to get the House-passed proposal over the finish line in the Senate. Credible accounts point to the Treasury Department and even Summers himself (who just last week said his preferred method of dealing with student debt was to allow it to be discharged in bankruptcy) lobbying to undermine its passage. Summers “was really dismissive as to the utility of it,” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) said at the time. “He was not supportive of this.”
Summers and Treasury economists expressed more concern for financially fragile banks than homeowners facing foreclosure, while also openly worrying that some borrowers would “take advantage” of cramdown to get undeserved relief. This is also a preoccupation of economist anger at student debt relief: that it’s inefficient and untargeted and will go to the “wrong” people who don’t need it. (It won’t.)
For mortgage modification, President Obama’s Federal Housing Finance Agency repeatedly refused to use its administrative authority to write down the principal of loans in its portfolio at mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—the simplest and fastest tool at its disposal. Despite a 2013 Congressional Budget Office study that showed how modest principal reduction could help 1.2 million homeowners, prevent tens of thousands of defaults, and save Fannie and Freddie billions, FHFA repeatedly refused to move forward with principal reduction, citing their own efforts to study whether the policy would incentivize strategic default (the idea that financially solvent homeowners would default on their loans to try and access cheaper ones).
Virtually everyone involved with the housing system was stunned that the options of cramdown and principal reduction weren’t taken. Banks literally held meetings in expectation of Obama’s team requiring writedowns, until they didn’t.
Instead, the Obama administration rolled out the industry-backed Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP), relying on the voluntary cooperation of servicers to modify mortgages. The program was, even by the administration’s own modest objectives, a failure, ultimately reaching less than a quarter of the three to four million homeowners it hoped to target. In the critical first two years, the administration did not even spend 3 percent of what they were allotted to save homeowners.
Just as with cramdown, one reason the Obama administration failed to swiftly help homeowners was their obsession with ensuring their policies didn’t help the “wrong” type of debtor. When Obama first announced HAMP in 2009, he said the program would “not reward folks who bought homes they knew from the beginning they would never afford.” The resulting “Goldilocks” proposal, with its focus on weeding out undeserving borrowers, would not be available to homeowners with incomes too high or too low and would be backstopped with voluminous income and financial verifications (in many cases, more than what was required to take out the loan in the first place). Treasury also tweaked the program numerous times as they went along, confusing servicers and borrowers. The barrage of paperwork ground the program to a halt at many servicers, and ultimately nearly a quarter of modifications were rejected on the grounds that incomplete paperwork was provided.
But it was much worse than that. The mortgage servicers used HAMP like a predatory lending program, squeezing homeowners for as many payments as possible before canceling their modifications and kicking them out of their homes. These companies had financial incentives to foreclose rather than modify loans. In one particularly excruciating example, the servicer arm of Bank of America offered its employees Target gift cards as a bonus for placing borrowers into foreclosure.
This was also by design, or at least benign neglect. Then–Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner candidly told officials that the program was intended to help banks, not borrowers. The purpose was to “foam the runway” for the banks, Geithner said, with homeowners and their families being the foam crushed by a jumbo jet in that scenario. If the goal was just to let the banks use HAMP for their own benefit, it’s not surprising that would come at homeowners’ expense.
And those banks executed their plan fraudulently, using millions of forged and fabricated documents to illegally foreclose on people. Even with this new leverage against the banks, the administration failed to provide equitable relief. A new program, the National Mortgage Settlement, promised one million principal reductions but delivered only 83,000. Meanwhile, millions more unlawful foreclosures ensued, and no high-level executive was convicted in association with any of these crimes.
In short, the policy apparatus ultimately failed to assist the majority of people who sought help, a suboptimal policy outcome by any metric. Student debt relief skeptics like Furman spent the Obama years advocating for privatizing Fannie and Freddie, rather than apologizing for falling so short on dealing with the massive debt overhang, which stunted the economic recovery.
President Biden’s approach has been markedly different and, if well implemented, is poised to be extremely effective. The simplicity of the program design, with its straightforward cancellation thresholds ($10,000/$20,000) and eligibility criteria (Pell status and household income), means the policy should deliver nearly 90 percent of its relief dollars to those making less than $75,000 a year. Will some small amount of relief dollars land in the bank accounts of borrowers who will make higher incomes in the future? Absolutely. Is preventing that outcome more important than delivering relief to 43 million borrowers? Of course not.
It’s not just the policy design that is a rebuke to the old guard’s theory of debt relief; it’s also the rhetoric. Notably, in his 20-minute speech announcing the rollout of the student loan relief program, President Biden didn’t mention “bad debtors” once. He didn’t spend a single breath on the individual failings of borrowers, make any reference to their poor decision-making, or nod to a handful of unscrupulous debtors trying to game the system.
Instead, he talked about the failings of our higher-education system, in which “an entire generation is now saddled with unsustainable debt.” Instead of blaming borrowers, he showed them empathy. Instead of talking about borrowers taking advantage of the system, he vowed to hold “colleges accountable for jacking up costs without delivering value to students” and crack down on “schools luring students with the promise of big paychecks when they graduate only to watch these students be ripped off and left with mountains of debt.” And he headed concerns about moral hazard off at the pass, vowing to “never apologize for helping the working and middle class.”
Moreover, Biden wasn’t afraid to use all of the tools available to him to get results for indebted borrowers. The Obama administration was given funding from Congress, an explicit mandate for foreclosure prevention, and at the end, a settlement with the banks that authorized even more money. They still failed, because they were more interested in deluded notions of “personal responsibility” than acting to avert disaster.
Biden has flipped the Beltway consensus on policy design around debt forgiveness and modeled a path for viewing student debt as a national crisis, rather than an individual failing. It’s a stunning reversal of the Obama-era consensus and one that casts that failed legacy of mortgage debt relief in an even darker light. Biden has shown us there was an easier, softer way all along.
Yeahâ¦why lighten the financial burden for so many – whose debt hangs around their necks for years to come. The American mentality is always the sameâ¦$$$ and nothing else. vg
Making an effort with your appearance is good manners, because it shows respect for people around you. Queen Elizabeth II (and this is precisely what seriously lacks today⦠vg)
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One reason the Obama administration failed to swiftly help homeowners was their obsession with ensuring their policies didn’t help the “wrong” type of debtor.”
Translation: They didn’t want to help any homeowner who was not also a Wall Street banker.
Financial Relief (Obama Style)
Wall Street gets the bail
And Main Street gets the fail
Wall Street gets the bonus
And Main Street gets the onus
Wall Street gets relief
And Main Street pays the thief
Summers Time (after Summertime, of course)
Summers time
And the living is easy
Market’s jumpin
And the profits are high
Profits high, Lord so high
The banker’s rich
And his fraud is good-looking
Hush, baby, baby
Don’t you cry
The “Obama” administration? What’s that? You sure you don’t mean the Gates-Hastings administration? That Obama guy was just a painted face dancing at the end of rich kids’ strings. Still is.
“When Obama first announced HAMP in 2009, he said the program would “not reward folks who bought homes they knew from the beginning they would never afford.”
If Obama had applied a similar standard for bankers –not reward bankers who granted loans for homes they knew from the beginning the borrowers would never be able to afford” — and then packaged up and resold the ticking time bomb mortgages to unsuspecting dupes — the Wall Street banksters would never have received a single public bailout dollar.
Exactly.
An excellent article.
The only time that conservatives and the moderate Dems who are terrified of their criticism care about “undeserving” folks is when a policy helps poor and middle class Americans.
You never hear them worry about “undeserving” banks and “undeserving billionaires” and “undeserving corporations” and “undeserving charter schools” when they spent 100x as much taxpayer money on them.
When we give money to wealthy corporations, they often buy back their own stocks to artificially inflate the company’s value, or they pay dividends to wealthy investors. This is what happened to some of the PPP loans that were forgiven.
There used to be a time that the government’s job was to regulate big business and corporations so that they didn’t take advantage of workers. It’s been a complete 180. The Government now subsidizes and incentivizes big business/corporations using tax dollars from working folks. This is just as wrong as it gets.
The Obama people could have structured the bailout so that it passed through the homeowners to the banks, allowing those homeowners to stay in their homes. Instead, they engineered one of the largest handouts to the wealthy in history, a vast transfer of wealth from ordinary people to fat cat bankers. And a lot of American families never recovered from this. They lost the single most important method by which ordinary people create generational wealth that they can pass on to their kids (after, that is, they have spent their lifetimes turning the value of their labor over to those fat cat bankers in the form of exorbitant compound interest, to repay a loan that existed almost entirely just on paper, for banks can loan $100 for ever $10 they have on deposit.
What Obama and his administration did there was sickening. Talk the talk of helping the little people and shovel cash at the fat cats who write big checks to SuperPACs.
Here’s what happens to an ordinary person who buys a home: He or she scrimps and saves to come up with a down payment. Then, the bank makes a home loan, but the bank only has 10 percent on deposit of the loan that it makes. The rest is imaginary money that exists only in the form of a debt obligation that the home “owner” has taken on, basically an agreement to turn over the lion’s share of everything that he or she earns for most of the rest of his or her life to the bank. And on top of this, the home “owner” (the bank is the owner until all of this is done) pays ridiculous compound interest so that by the time the loan is repaid, he or she has paid twice to three times the principal amount. It’s an economic system designed to extract the maximum amount of labor from the poor and turn the value of that labor over to the privileged few.
Capitalism. n. A system for surreptitiously extracting almost all the value of the labor from the masses of people and turning this over to the already wealthy and for diverting the attention of the masses of people from the fact that this is how the system is set up to work.
Talk the talk of helping the little people and shovel cash at the fat cats who write big checks to SuperPACs.”
Most of it I don’t find surprising .
Perhaps the only remarkable aspect is how “in our face” blatant the whole thing was.
There is no better way of alienating people than giving them the middle finger, which is basically what Obama did to millions of homeowners.
To say that it’s difficult to regain trust after you do that to people is an extreme understatement.
Yeah, it really was in your face blatant. This was when I decided I was not freaking fan of Barack Obama. He sold out the little guy, big time, there.
The breathtaking thing to me, SomeDAM, is that there wasn’t more outrage. People have gotten so used to being screwed by those with power that they barely respond anymore. Oh, yeah, I’m being beaten. That’s how it goes, isn’t it.
It’s called learned helplessness.
People get to the point where they don’t believe anything they do can make a difference.
I think that is why so many people don’t even bother to vote
The only way you can get people out of this mindset is to show them that they can make a difference through their own actions.
But they have to first be given the opportunity.
“He sold out the little guy, big time, there.”
Can you say Bill Clinton? (and Hillary?)
BINGO! This ^^^ was Obama’s biggest failure. #2 was hiring on Arne Duncan to demolish public education.
It was horrifying. Disgusting. Freaking evil.
Screwing the homeowners and the nation’s kids. Great, Barack. Just great.
Duncan. Utter moron who charged through U.S. education like a bull moose, leaving devastation in his wake. And the guy is still utterly clueless about how much damage he did. Not the slightest inkling of understanding of this.
It’s called the Duncan Donut effect, when you think you know everything but actually know nothing
But he does have a good jump shot, which is why Obama hired him.
Thank you for this interesting post. At this point anything we can do to shore up the poor and working class will help the economy. When these folks can eliminate or reduce the debt, they will likely send money out to fuel the economy. Some of them may actually be able to save or invest for the future. Since many of the people with student loan debt are people of color, this one time cash infusion may contribute to creating some wealth that may be passed on to future generations.
There is no evidence so far that this program will contribute to inflation. The poor and working class have been pummeled by forty years of neoliberal economic policies that have kept wages low and ballooned our income inequality. Biden is breaking from the tradition of only looking out for the top incomes in the pseudo-belief that the money will trickle down. It is a fantasy! It never has, and it never will. What is more like to trickle down is inter-generational poverty. If Biden can help create more economic stability within poor and working class families, I applaud his efforts.
cx: likely to trickle down
At least the people involved this time don’t hide that they are shills for the wealthy. Jason Furman is a senior fellow at Pete Peterson’s spin tank. A few years ago, Peterson spent mega bucks to destroy Social Security.
In Jan. 2022, Peterson was the subject of the article, “Billionaire clique is back for Social Security”. When Bernie was running for President,
Obama’s neo-liberal economists bashed Sanders’ economic proposals. At the time of their public letter writing, the 4 economists identified their university employers and omitted their corporate ties.
Epstein’s friend, Larry Summer, is a Senior Fellow at billionaire-funded CAP and Kearny is with billionaire-funded Brookings.
Furman is from the Harvard Colonialist Kennedy School and Slummers was President of the Harvard Colonialist University.
Obama’s administration like Bill Clintons was packed with neo-liberals so I am not surprised that Obama-era economists would think this way.
Economics is voodoo science based on theories: Since the 1930s, four macroeconomic theories have been proposed: Keynesian economics, monetarism, the new classical economics, and supply-side economics.
The policies of neoliberalism typically support fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, privatization, lower taxes, and a reduction in government spending.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp#toc-what-is-neoliberalism
Obama’s neoliberal agenda for education
By Gillian Russom
https://isreview.org/issue/71/obamas-neoliberal-agenda-education/index.html
The EU does a better job policing giant corporations. Ireland has gone after the tech companies and made them pay more taxes. In the US corporations spend so much on lobbying, the government seems to look the other way when they pollute or treat workers poorly. it’s been reported that some lobbyists even get involved in writing the tax code. Even though we have anti-trust laws, the government rarely requires big companies to break up. Sen. Warren has been a proponent of breaking up some of the big tech companies, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
I agree.
Senator Hillary Clinton was one of the Senators sponsoring Campaign Finance Reform legislation in 2002 that passed in both Houses of Congress and was signed by President Obama. Then a few years later, the theofascist RINO majority of Supreme Court justices ruled in Citizen United that corporations where people, free to do whatever they wanted with their dark money when it came to elections except donating directly to the candidates they supported.
The legislation that Hillary was a cosponsor on was called the The Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002.
03/20/2002
Campaign Reform Act of 2001
Hillary voted Yes
Source: VOTE SMART
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton/?p=17
And Hillary is still fighting to get better campaign finance reform passed to put an end to the damage caused by Citizens United.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/campaign-finance-reform/
Lloyd,
Yep! That is why it was so incredibly heartbreaking to hear the idiotic rhetoric about how it didn’t matter if Trump won as long as “she who must not be named” was defeated in 2016 — despite there being an OPEN Supreme Court seat, with the Court tied 4-4 and a chance to repeal Citizens United.
But nope, some folks thought they were doing something good by repeating – and giving legitimacy to — dishonest right wing talking points exaggerating the flaws of the Democrat into something that had no resemblance to reality. If they weren’t right wing trolls, they were progressives not just shooting themselves in the foot, but shooting themselves and their descendants in the head and helping the neo-fascists to murder democracy.
The “the theofascist RINO majority of Supreme Court justices” would have instead been a liberal majority led at the beginning by Ruth Bader Ginsburg writing a brilliant majority opinion striking down the Citizens United decision, and then when she stepped down a year before her death and was replaced by another young progressive justice. The theofascist RINO minority of Supreme Court Justices would be of no consequence.
But we have what we have and it unfortunately is likely too late to do anything about it because the courts and billionaires have their hands on the scale for the far right.
These are the same people who helped bring us the Obama era terrible policies about schools. Not to say their even worse neo-liberal policies that shipped jobs overseas and thus helped elect Trump. As Linda points out, they have become corporate shills intent on underminig the good values some Democrats continue to hold.
Privatization is another neoliberal scheme. It assumes that anything the private sector does is better and more cost effective than the public sector, another neoliberal lie. If we look at Pennsylvania and Ohio, we see that the private charters are rife with waste, fraud and embezzling. There are so many problems with unaccountable charter schools, NPE records multiple problems in multiple states on a daily basis. “In the Public Interest” keeps track of all the attempts to privatize public services and their failure that ends up costing communities more for a worse service. https://inthepublicinterest.org/
I have 2 kids in college right now. Thank goodness they both got scholarships that brought down the costs to a more “in state” sort of tuition (but then the room/board/food jacks up the total cost!!!!). I don’t have a problem with the loan forgiveness one single bit even though we don’t qualify for any kind of loan forgiveness. I would now like to see the colleges get a good spanking for jacking up costs because the banks are/were willing to back it with predatory loans (spank them, too!!!).
If the cost of room, food and amenities (like the addition of work out facilities) has increased prices- is consumer demand driving it? What are the expectations of your children and their friends when selecting a college?
What does the ratio of tuition cost increase look like in contrast to increases in room board, facilities over time?
It is not uncommon now for 50% of classes at universities to be taught by part-timers who have no benefits.
Did you mean “jack up” prices, instead of expenses?
If state universities have become unaffordable, part of the reason is Republican legislators who have cut funding to state schools. Another part of the problem is businessmen appointed by governors as quid pro quo for political support from the wealthy. Businessmen on the boards of private and state schools look out for their friends in the building sector, creating opportunities for them to get profitable contracts. Containing costs for students, democratic ideals for education, etc. – none of it is of interest to them.
The price of private schools is a function of demand.
Well, the administrator’s salaries have blossomed. University presidents are pulling down millions. And adjuncts who are teaching classes are sleeping in their cars and showering in the college sports facilities because they can’t pay rent on what they make. But, hey, if you mention this–that the service the school is supposed to supply is being supplied by people being paid poverty wages nowhere near the cost of living–some university economist (where is Teaching Economist on this thread) will jump on too tell us all how this is just hunky dory and all for the good. Because that’s what these people are paid to do–to tell the rich and rapacious how very handsome they look this evening, how dashing, how good they are in bed.
My immoderate reply is in moderation. All this makes me so freaking angry.
Administrators make millions.
Adjuncts sleep in their cars and shower in the college gym because they can’t afford rent.
Why does the university exist? To teach students. Who does that? The one sleeping in her car.
And then the universities hire neoliberal economists to tell people that these aren’t inequities but represent the way THE MARKET is supposed to work, to the benefit of all, if only we were wise enough to understand this. The university president gets all the toys because he or she is worth that! And adjuncts, well, it all comes down to this: There are people of a certain class, and they are valuable, and everyone else is trash.
Where is TE to pop in here and SPLAIN this all to us?
TE makes over $115k per year, but he deserves it.
He does a lot of high quality peer reviewed tweeting on basketball. football and poker.
Bob,
You can find the total compensation for public university presidents here: https://www.chronicle.com/article/president-pay-public-colleges/
Total compensation for private university presidents is here: https://www.chronicle.com/article/president-pay-public-colleges/
You will have to create a free account to get access to the data.
At my university the highest paid people are basketball and football coaches. Next are physician administrators who do earn over a million. Next are the full professors of medicine. Next comes the university president who earns less than a million, and finally there is a mix of chaired professors, full professors, and other administrators.
I am touched that you are concerned with the welfare of adjuncts like me. I and my adjunct colleagues in my department are adequately compensated. I recommend that anyone who is not adequately compensated should find other work. The unfilled job openings in the US in the second quarter of this year was 11,227,333,330 (See https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LMJVTTUVUSQ647S). People with earned doctorates should be able to do well in a labor market with this level of excess demand.
College costs for my kids came close to bankrupting me, and I was making a lot of money at the time.
Bob,
Universities pay the costs of students from relatively poor households by charging folks who make a lot of many a high tuition.
There are schools that have not done this. Purdue did not increase tuition for a decade. They paid for this by reducing financial aid. This reduced the number of Pell eligible students by a third. People who made a lot of money did benefit.
Well observed, TE.
The money is not going to impoverished students. When I was in college in the 1970s and 1980s, tuition was the bulk of the costs, even over housing. Now the student activity fees are competing with tuition costs because universities have discovered that the luxuries provided actually draw students and because, well, it enriches the institutions. Many of the largest public and most expensive private institutions have endowments that are an embarrassment of riches that these schools claim, go toward scholarships. Meanwhile, university presidents expect salaries in the millions and we simply pony up. Higher education has discovered that their educated constituents are not discriminating consumers.
Bob,
I am glad that I could “SPLAIN” how university tuition works in a progressive way.
TE, you explained no such thing. In our country, very high tuitions are charged that some can pay and some cannot pay. It is indeed the case that high tuitions paid by some help to offset costs of lowered tuitions charged to others, but it is also the case that some students, increasingly, fall in the middle. Their parents make too much money to meet guidelines for reduced tuition but not enough to pay the high tuitions. Having taught high school recently, I had many students in that boat–ones who wanted to go to college but believed that they could not afford to do so and who did not want to take on enormous debt via borrowing to go to college. Obviously, there are other countries that treat college costs differently. In those, more progressive taxation is used to make college accessible to all who meet the academic criteria for going to college. I am glad that I could splain how university tuition does not work, here, in a progressive way but does work in a progressive way elsewhere. I could also happily explain how in many countries, university presidents do not make the pay of 500 adjuncts.
Paul,
The largest cost of attending most schools is the full time wages students are giving up by going to college. Target in my area is paying $15 an hour. At that salary a full time worker would earn $15 x 40 x 50 = $30,000. That is more than the average in state student’s cost of attendance at my university.
University endowments are restricted by the desires of the donor.I had dinner the other night with several donors who have given money for various purposes. One had given to support athletic scholarships, and that money can be used only for that. Another had given to support undergraduate scholarships in economics. That can only be used to support economics students. There are significant restrictions on how the money can be spent.
My institution has a significant amount of money in a quasi-endowment. That is money that the institution treats as an endowment though it is actually institutional savings and there are no restrictions on how it is being used. The quasi-endowment allowed the institution to lose $200 million in the pandemic and not lay off a single employee or reduce any employee compensation. Perhaps it would have been better if we did not have that cushion and have followed Rutgers and furloughed employees.
I hope you make use of the Chronicle of Higher Education links i provided. A couple of presidents/chancellors make “millions”, the vast majority are paid in the mid six figures. I urge you to look up the salary of the president/chancellor of you state flagship university.
I don’t doubt your data. My point is that the perception of luxury drives many of the decisions about colleges. Around 1990, and I apologize for not having the specific source, I recall an article in The Atlantic I read from an Alum at Penn who was trying to make sense of the skyrocketing costs of college. What he discovered was that universities were claiming exorbitant tuition as a means to attract applicants. He found that at Penn, once they began to advertise tuition rates far above average their applications grew exponentially. This became the standard, particularly for universities of more and most selective (Such designation being another driver of costs particularly with the advent of US News and World Report ratings). The Vice-Chancellor at my university made one of his stated goals to get rid of the dishonesty around the discount rate. He did not succeed. I do not claim expertise on college funding, but having three children recently matriculate, I do see the many contradictions around educating young adults and the drive to build war chests in endowments with pristine facilities. There are many drivers of rising college costs with many creators, including the expectation of students and their families. I guess we need to decide if it is more important to make the government investment to prepare our students for adulthood through higher education or build prestigious institutions for their own sake.
Bob,
I am surprised that students feel that way about Florida schools. Florida public universities are among the least expensive in the nation. The University of Florida charges $6,381 a year for tuition and fees for an in state student without financial aid (https://www.sfa.ufl.edu/cost/). A student who graduates in four years who borrows money to pay all their tuition will borrow about as much as it takes to buy a new Honda Civic. Is a car loan for a Honda Civic an enormous amount of debt?
Of course it would be cheaper to attend a different college in Florida. If a student goes to Miami Dade College they would pay $2,838 a year in tuition and fees. (https://www.mdc.edu/financialaid/how-aid-works/cost-attendance.aspx). I would try to compare that to a car loan, but I don’t think there is any new car that can be purchased for $11,352, the cost of tuition and fees to obtain a degree at Miami Dade.
Alas, the schools I paid for were in Boston.
Bob,
Boston has fine schools, but US News and World Report ranks the $6,381 University of Florida at #29 of national universities while Tufts is #32 (tuition and fees $65,222), Boston College #36 (tuition and fees $64,176), Boston University #41 (tuition and fees $62,360), and Brandeis (tuition and fees $62,722), tied with Northeastern (tuition and fees $60,192) at #44. There are, of course, two universities ranked higher than the University of Florida in Cambridge.
All of those schools that charge ten times the tuition of U of F will discount tuition for many students, but some do pay full tuition. Notably international students typically pay full tuition and fees so they end up subsidizing the domestic students.
You couldn’t get your kids to go to U of F?
We had been in New England for a very long time, most of the kids’ lives to that point. And yes, at the time, I made too much money to qualify for discounted tuitions, room, board, etc. I spent a lot.
Paul,
It is certainly true that universities are very concerned with student decisions. Unlike primary and several years of secondary education, students are not required by law to have a post secondary education. They are certainly not required to attend any particular college or university. Colleges and universities must compete to attract students, and the impression of luxury is one way they compete. It is important to remember that the overall standard of living in the US has increased markedly, and along with it students view of what is a luxury and what is a necessity has increased. I think you are right that the expectations of students and their families drives many of the decisions of post secondary institutions.
Marketers have long known that consumers view higher priced goods with higher quality. That is why some products are always “on sale” at a lower than “normal price”.This is the subject of the classic paper “The Market for Lemons” by George Akerlof who won the Nobel in 2001 for this work (Jstor permanent link https://www.jstor.org/stable/1879431). If you are concerned that people confuse high tuition with high quality, you might think that US News and World Report does a good service by arguing that the University of Florida is a better university than schools that charge ten times the tuition.
LisaM,
Some schools, generally small ones, do subsidize the academic program from room and board charges. Larger schools like the one where I teach, treat room and board as boats on their own bottom, that is they charge there costs of food and food preparation, the cost of housing, plus depreciation on buildings.
Yeah, in Summer’s era of influence inequality grew exponentially and banks became too big to fail. Oh yeah, he also insists that greed is not one of the causes for the current inflationary bubble. Who still listens to that guy?
If you are a Hawvid professor, it doesn’t matter how many times you were wrong in the past — or just how wrong you were.
People at the highest levels will still hang on your every word ( like they did with Chauncey Gardner in Being There.)
And of course, the talking heads in the mainstream media will kiss your behind.
Millions of Americans lost their homes, millions of families lost everything, had their lives destroyed, but Obama and the bloodsucking neoliberals of his administration DID NOT GIVE A DAMN. After that, is it surprising that so many ordinary Joes and Jills turned away from the Democratic Party in disgust? It had become clear enough that there were two parties for the rich, in the U.S., and none with any power, who stood for the people.
The fact that millions of little people lost everything didn’t affect in the slightest the sleep in their mansions of the Obamas, Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers, Jason Furman, et al. And after the Wall Street hoodlums got their bailouts, they went right back to writing themselves the big bonus checks every year.
And here’s what happened as well, after Obama and company bailed out the wealthy finance types: those same people went into places like Tampa and bought up billions of dollars’ worth of foreclosed homes at pennies on the dollar, and now they are renting those homes to people who used to own them and charging exorbitant rents. We’ve recently seen a 31.1 percent increase in rent, on average, in a single year in Tampa and St. Pete. And many are wondering whether they will be homeless now because of that. They are barely hanging on.
And people of Obama’s economic class in the United States have no clue that this is even going on, how desperate things are. The rich in America will continue pushing their toy until it breaks. And talking b——–t about helping the little guy while they do it.
Exactly. This is happening in several major real estate markets. Private equity pools their money, and young people get outbid on starter homes. I feel sorry for the younger generation that cannot achieve financial independence due to debt and limited employment opportunities.
It’s just obscene. The folks who have a piece of these equity firms are from the wealthiest class in America. The richest of the rich, exploiting the poorest of the poor, because the poor still have too much, I guess, and they have too little.
This is what evil looks like, but we’ve gotten used to it here in America. As SomeDAM says, learned helplessness.
Here’s another example of vulture capitalism where investors are buying trailer parks and double the rent on poor people. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/rents-spike-as-large-corporate-investors-buy-mobile-home-parks
Now we cain’t be havin the peeons out from under our thumbs now can we??
Two statistics of interest- $88 bil. is the amount that the British royal family, in total, has in assets.
And, secondly, Bill Gates is the single largest owner of farmland in the U.S. Recently, he bought a large amount of acreage in North Dakota. Gates’ self promotion touts huge charitable largesse. What he does give (invest) is used to usurp government function similar to the political maneuvering of the Catholic church and Catholic organizations.
The Clinton and Obama administrations believed in giving banks deregulation and bailouts, and giving everyone else debt. They were whipping their horse to get it into shape. Then, they expected the horse to vote for them again and again ’cause, you know, “free” Google for everyone makes up for everything.
Yeah….well homeless people don’t vote and poor people don’t have the time or energy to vote (or to even register to vote). Free Google doesn’t matter to these people. How’s this working out for the Dems now that they created their own deficit in voters?
Bill Clinton made what appeared to be the appropriate pivot to the middle after 12 years of Republicans in the White House. Obama’s policies continued that tradition. However, in the process the establishment of the Democratic Party simply retreated to big cities on the coasts and lounged happily in their prosperity while forgetting their democratic roots with unions and progressive opportunity. As the Republican Party becomes more extreme, the American electorate sees little from the Democrats that shows that they will actually serve middle America. Too many in the Democratic Party leadership are trying to hold on to a failed status quo while Republicans want to burn down the house.
Well said, Paul. Clinton’s “Third Way” killed progressivism. It proved that you can’t beat Republicans by acting like them.
People who have dealt with Obama before he was elevated to the national stage have quite a different perspective than the fawning MSM coverage.
Obama has always been about just himself; everyone else be damned. He had absolutely no problem stepping over and spitting out people he no longer had a use for as he climbed the political ladder.
His thinly veiled contempt for the commons and for concern over the least fortunate among us was glossed over by a mainstream media determined to give him celebrity status.
They were so enamored over his outward appearance that few Americans took time to delve into his destructive neoliberal policies.
Pearson richly rewarded him with a $64 million book advance, enabling him to build homes in Martha’s Vineyard and Hawaii.
Meanwhile, the powerless folks on Chicago’s South Side will forever have their beloved Jackson Park marred by the ‘ Great Tower of Nothing, a monument to hubris, chutzpah and Chicago-style clout.”
I believe it’s no accident that this monstrosity as a raised middle finger.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/20/the-new-ozymandias-twilight-reflections-on-the-obama-presidential-center/
And, the people in Flint remember Obama’s betrayal.
Without the neoliberalism of Podesta and Tom Daschle, who steer the Center for American Progress ( Larry Summers, too) in service to billionaires, Obama’s terms may have been different.
“ For mortgage modification, President Obama’s Federal Housing Finance Agency repeatedly refused to use its administrative authority to write down the principal of loans in its portfolio at mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—the simplest and fastest tool at its disposal. ”
To me, this less like the Democratic Party oratory, and more like Betsy Devos denying any relief to students with predatory loans from for-profit, inept colleges, or the racist administrators in the 1940s-1960s who made sure that almost zero Black or Hispanic WW2 or Korean veterans could actually avail themselves of the provisions of the GI Bill.
I bet this had a significant impact on the number of White working- or middle-class families who lost their homes and gave up on the Democratic Party— which could have done something about it, but not if it was run by leaders from Wall Street and Goldman Sachs.
Exactly.
What? Obama isn’t the most wonderful person to inhabit the WH? What? Are you saying he didn’t help non-multimillionaires? So he ignored the middle class. So he drone-bombed school buses, markets, weddings. Oopsie! So he had kids in cages. So he sent toddlers to immigration court. But unlike Trump, Obama have the judges cheat sheets of early education. So Obama did RTTT. So he clapped when all the teachers at the RI high school we’re fired for low scores.
But he had CLASS! Look at those beautiful portraits!
Admit it, you must love Trump!
#sarcasm although I get that last comment a lot from my liberal friends.
Disliking Democratic neoliberals = support for Trump, who has no economic position whatsoever except support for swindling others to make himself wealthier?
Uh, no.
I’m saying that when I criticize Obama, a common liberal comeback has been, “I guess you love Trump,” or something similar.
That has been MY experience. Maybe yours is different, you know, since we are not the same person.
LOL. Subtle humor, there, Laura.
Laura-
The people who confront you when you criticize Obama, can gain substantial ground for their position by asking you if Obama relinquished power peacefully as has occurred with every President before Trump and will occur with Biden.
It’s possible to have more than one thought in your brain at the same time.
Trump was the worst president ever. His appointees were horrible. He bowed to Putin and Kim. He corrupted the federal courts by appointing unqualified religious zealots. #worstever
Obama was far from perfect. His education policies were a disaster. He passed medical insurance that benefitted millions of people. Unlike Trump, he was a man of dignity who respected the Constitution.