The Houston Chronicle reported that Tucker Carlson attacked Houston Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw for supporting aid to Ukraine.
Fox News host Tucker Carlson took aim at Houston Congressman Dan Crenshaw on Monday night for his support of sending aid to Ukraine, calling him “eye patch McCain.”
Crenshaw, 38, is a retired Navy SEAL who nearly died in Afghanistan after a roadside bomb detonated and left him without his right eye. Carlson was comparing him to the late-U.S. Sen. John McCain who was considered a hawkish member of the Republican Party.
Carlson’s beef with Crenshaw was rooted in a $40 billion aid package Congress is considering to help Ukraine against Russia. Carlson has opposed the U.S. supporting Ukraine and has said he is rooting for Russia, which invaded the neighboring country on Feb. 24.
Carlson aired a clip of Crenshaw on a different Fox News program earlier in which the second-term congressman called it “depressing” to listen to some Republicans and conservatives opposing aid to Ukraine, referring to them as “almost pro-Russia.”
Crenshaw also pushed back at critics who have said the money should be used in the U.S. for baby formula during the supply shortage instead of going to Ukraine. In the clip, Crenshaw said those two things are completely different and that the problem with the baby formula situation isn’t about money, but a supply shortage tied to a massive recall.
Crenshaw said the baby formula shortage was caused by manufacturing and barriers to importing European product.
Carlson then absurdly accused Crenshaw of treating moms who are worried about baby food as pro-Russian.
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Never thought I’d say this, but Carlson is right. First, the “aid” we are giving “to Ukraine” is going almost solely to weapons manufacturers here in the U.S. to buy more deadly weapons to kill more people to continue a war that Ukraine has no possible chance of winning, but which is being waged as a self-professed proxy war by the U.S. explicitly for the purposes of “weakening Russia”. While there may be a tiny portion of “humanitarian” aid involved, very little of this “aid” will actually help any Ukrainians and will in fact only cause more suffering and death. But, hey, I guess as an American it’s my patriotic duty to support this war to the last Ukrainian, right?
Second, because we have problems enough in this country. We have upwards of 600,000 people sleeping on the streets every night, and that’s not counting people in shelters, living in their cars, couch surfing with friends and all the other ways that homeless people get by. We have at least 50 million people who are food insecure, many of whom are literally starving. There is a nationwide baby formula shortage, which is forcing parents to pay many times the normal costs to feed their babies. Gas prices are more than double what they were just six months ago. Medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in America and over 70,000 people a year die from treatable conditions because they can’t afford treatment, often even when they have insurance. People are suffering and dying here and $40 billion could go along way toward alleviating that suffering.
But, hey, go ahead and give that money to Ukraine and let Americans suffer and die and let’s talk after the midterms, okay?
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Are you suggesting that the U.S. and the other western nations should stand back and let Putin take Ukraine? Because he wants to? Should we let him take other nations he covets? He’s the good guy, to you, and the US is wrong to help a nation that wants to be free of dictatorship.
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I’m saying maybe Ukraine and NATO shouldn’t have poked the bear. This whole thing is and has always been a proxy war with Russia. Otherwise, what business would we have there? We have no treaties with Ukraine that would require our intervention.
And, y’know, the U.S. is really not in a position to be talking to anyone else about “take any nations he covets”. Are you aware that we just invaded (or, rather, re-invaded) Somalia? What was the provocation there? What business do we have there? I mean, other than their off-shore oil reserves that we covet?
And if you’re worried about dictatorships invading countries, why has there not been a single word on this blog about Saudi Arabia’s invasion, war crimes and genocide in Yemen? I assure you the casualties are much, much higher. And it’s an invasion that your own government is and has long been facilitating, so don’t you think you have a responsibility to speak up?
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Putin has been taking bites of Ukraine since 2008. This time he thought he would take it all. NATO has not provoked Putin. Is that explain why he closed every independent media out let and passed a law to send any critic of the “special military operation” to prison for 15 years? Your defense of Putinnand his authorities regime is bizarre. Hey, gal, he’s a vicious dictator. He had the opportunity to lead Russia into a global partnership with the West, even joining the EU. He threw it all away for the chance to conquer a sovereign nation.
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y’know, you’re the one who is really not in a position to be talking to anyone else about “take any nations he covets”. You were good with Trump being president.
Not only did Trump hugely expand the drone program, but he also ended all accountability, so the number of civilians killed increased exponentially.
And if Putin didn’t have his little propaganda army in the US pushing his propaganda that his murderous mass killing was “necessary” and the mass killings are the Dems’ fault, Putin would have not been able to invade Ukraine in the first place.
But he knew he had his little mouth piece Tucker Carlson spewing lies about Nazis. The same lies you spewed here and now – months later – you suddenly pivot to a new lie.
You offer up the most outragepusly disgustig theory to scapegoat people who believe in democracy for Putin’s reign of annihilation on Ukraine.
The theory that Putin knew that if he reigned annihilation on Ukraine, Sweden and Finland and other countries would join NATO and make it stronger, so he reigned annihilation on Ukraine to stop the countries from joining NATO who would ONLY join NATO if he invaded Ukraine.
Maybe some brainwashed folks who watch Fox believe your new theory now that your previous lie blaming the Ukraine Nazis you kept pushing wasn’t working. But I doubt you will find those folks here.
I am sorry, but does anyone notice that these pro-Putin posts sound a lot like Goebbels defending Hitler? As repeated by right wing Father Coughlin.
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And it’s not just Ukraine that Russia has meddled in, but Georgia and Kazakhstan too. This isn’t some mythical NATO “poking the bear.” This is a former KGB agent trying to get the old USSR back together. My AP students had it right the first day, and you don’t, Dienne. This is irredentism, pure and simple.
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dienne77 I think you indicate in your note a lack of vision and, perhaps a misunderstanding of history, particularly of Putin himself and people like him?
I don’t like the power and moral hazards of capitalism either (of the arms manufacturers in this case); but in a capitalist country, someone is going to make money at it, unless of course it’s a PUBLIC institution (ahem).
The point is: Your pointing to the dollar benefit only reveals your short-sightedness in NOT understanding what is at stake with Putin’s mentality. Get closer to the top of the hill. You may be able to extend your view. CBK
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Funny you talk about the “dollar benefit”, because that’s exactly what this is all about. When your weapons suppliers run your country, you have to find or create wars for them to provide weapons for. Raytheon, Northrup-Grumman and Boeing appreciate your “dollar benefit”.
As for “Putin’s mentality”, he’s been the leader of Russia for over 20 years and he has been warning NATO to get off his lawn the whole time. I think he’s been quite patient, in fact. What do you think the U.S. would do if Russia were sending allied troops into Mexico (and if Mexico were attacking ethnic Americans/English speakers in its borders)?
I know the media has done a near complete lock-down of information on Ukraine and you’re only allowed to hear the empire’s version of the story, but as I have before, I implore you to seek out other sources. Consortium News, Multipolarista, Aaron Mate, Ben Norton, Scott Ritter (the UN weapons inspector who tried to warn us about the lack of WMD in Iraq), and others are all good sources. And, sure, I suppose you can say they are “parroting Russian propaganda”, but only if “Russian propaganda” means “anything you disagree with”. Read their stories with an open mind and look for actual evidence from both sides and form your own conclusions. Things aren’t true just because Putin says so, but they’re also not true just because U.S. mainstream media says so either. (As one funny example, Reuters the other day published a story about a Ukrainian defeat of the Russians – and the accompanying picture showed a bunch of guys playing paintball!)
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dienne77 Two brief issues with your note:
First, your comment: “Funny you talk about the ‘dollar benefit’, because that’s exactly what this is all about.”
This is exactly what I meant by your “low” horizon. If someone makes money on it, it’s already corrupt, by definition? It’s your horizon, . . . . . you need to look FURTHER than just that. In a capitalist democracy, capitalism presents everyone with moral hazard. However, good people and even good corporations still make money without resorting to corruption.
Second, over-simplifying again? You seem to think Ukraine and NATO nations being “on Putin’s lawn,” is the same thing as, say, Canada being on the USA’s lawn. “Let’s bomb them, they are a bunch of Nazis and they MIGHT invade us first.”
Putin threatens and even carries out his threats, then says that others’ DEFENSIVE MEASURES represent a threat to Russia. It’s intentional propaganda aimed at manipulating morons. It actually does work for some. . . . apparently.
MAGA/MAGA: If you want it to be so, then you have to make it so. Here’s your magic marker. CBK
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Ha!! After Finland joins NATO, Putin will have succeeded in expanding NATO’s encirclement by 800 miles. Brilliant move by Putin. Sweden is abandoning its neutrality for the first time in 200 years; Putin scared Finland and Sweden into seeking NATO’s protection.
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We implore you to listen to Bernie Sanders. Or AOC.
What is WRONG with you that you now trust Tucker Carlson more than Bernie?
You may be fooling some folks here that you aren’t a troll, but you are. You traffic in hate and scapegoating and demonizing the Dems, while you give the right wing takeover of our country and the problems that has caused a complete pass.
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NYC It occurred to me that dienne77 sounds exactly like a Fox News “contributor.” CBK
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Dienne, this analogy doesn’t parse. Wouldn’t it be: what would Mexico think, while it is laying waste to the Republic of Texas in order to reclaim its former territory, if US marshaled troops in CO, OK & LA? Or perhaps: what would US think, while it is laying waste to Mexico in order to destroy the pathway of LatAm immigration to US, if Russia marshaled troops in Guatemala and Belize?
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Dienne, while I always do not agree with you but on this you are so on point. Diane censored my post which read that Trump was denied 5 billion dollars to secure our border wall but 40 billion to Ukraine is OK to secure their border wall
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THis Time Here’s my note to Dienne; and if you cannot see the difference between a border wall with Mexico to keep out immigrants, and a “wall” to keep out the rampant aggressions of a brutal totalitarian government trying to stamp out democracy, well, . . . the writings are on the wall (pun intended), read my note below and please either go back to school, read some history written by real historians, or just go away.
You are probably Dienne anyway, writing under another name. In any case, I’m deleting anything you write anyway. CBK
MY NOTE TO DIENNE:
It seems to me that there is no other choice for D77:
She is either incredibly stupid, even enough to draw pity, OR she is just having great fun being disingenuous, OR she is working for someone and getting paid to troll in the way she does.
From what I’ve seen, it’s BEYOND REASON to think anything else . . . . and apparently Diane has more that she has held back. In either case, a waste of good time that we’ll never get back to even respond. CBK
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Ukraine is not “securing a border wall.” It is fighting to defend its sovereignty and its people against a brutal invasion. And you were not censored.
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To d-77: We are aiding Ukraine because Ukrainians are asking for the aid, it’s not being forced on them. Ukraine does not want to surrender to Russia, it wants to maintain its existence, identity and national integrity. Russia wants to gobble up more Ukrainian territory but the Ukrainians are having none of that.
The US is wealthy enough and rich enough to aid Ukraine and give support to Americans. However, there is the GOP and some right wing Dems like Manchin and Sinema who are blocking any efforts at helping the actual people.
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The question Dienne can’t or won’t answer is why Finland and Sweden have asked to join NATO.
Every free nation in Europe is frightened by Putin’s aggression. They don’t think that “it’s all about arms sales,” unlike D-77. They think it’s about their own security. They want protection from Russian aggression.
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Diane,
There is really no logic to her argument, which is why she won’t answer. Her intent is to keep throwing out right wing propaganda in the hopes that something will eventually stick to scapegoat Biden and the Dems (but never the Republicans, Trump or Putin).
Remember how she blamed Ukraine Nazis for the first weeks? Now it’s that Putin is upset about NATO so he “had” to commit mass murder of Ukraines to keep countries from joining NATO that are now joining NATO because Putin just demonstrated his Hitler-like willingness to kill as many of his invented “enemies”as he can.
The truth is that Putin would not have acted if he didn’t know he had his army of US propanganists like Tucker Carlson and our resident pro-Putin purveyor of whatever the pro-Putin talking points are this week.
If anything, the blame goes to folks like dienne77 who prefer that the far right Putin party be empowered if that means that Democrats lose.
She doesn’t trust Bernie or AOC. She just invokes them to pretend she is progressive. When it comes to defending the Republicans and Putin, Tucker is her truth-teller.
I want to point out to everyone what is the most insane about her posts.
Bernie Sanders does not have a long history of lying. AOC does not have a long history of lying. Tucker Carlson does. Trump does. Putin does.
In what world does anyone but a troll decide that Bernie has no credibility but those who constantly lie do?
She also occasionally invokes one or two more credible people as supporting her view, but I have looked at her links and it isn’t true. Those people have a far more nuanced view of this than our resident pro-Putin troll’s complete exoneration of Putin and Trump and the Republicans. More often she cites people with no credibility whatsoever.
But she believes Bernie and AOC are lying to her. Or they just don’t care about homelessness or the cost of baby formula like Tucker Carlson does.
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You really don’t need to cite AOC and Bernie. They add nothing. I have had D77 in moderation for two months because of her strident pro-Putin, anti-Ukraine, anti-Biden comments. She thinks the US is driven by greed but Putin is a wounded angel who justifiably invaded Ukraine to save it from Nazis. I did not post her many comments about the Nazis e who run Ukraine. Any reference to Russian war crimes, she was certain, is lies. Her Putin represents the good guys.
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Hey, go ahead and amplify right wing talking points that directly caused Americans to suffer and die and let’s talk after the midterms, okay?
Didn’t we hear this broken record before?
“I amplified Republican lies all during 2016 and voted AGAINST the Democrats and all I got for it was a far right wing Supreme Curt that is taking away women’s right to control their own bodies, a HUGE debt, tax cuts for billionaires, billions going to ed reformers, more homelessness, more unemployment, and EVEN MORE DRONE STRIKES AGAINST CIVILIANS (but without ANY accountability).”
All you got is a far right Supreme Court and and a very endangered democracy. And a huge national debt and sinking economy that made all of those problems worse.
Seriously, how much chutzpah does it take for this person to lecture anyone when this person’s concern about homelessness or bankruptcy or the price of baby formula is exactly as real as Ted Cruz and Donald Trump’s concern is.
How stupid would we have to be to believe that this person’s vote to empower Republicans in 2016 has ever done anything but make all of those problems that she never cared about when Trump was making them worse?
Funny how she only cites these problems when Democrats haven’t miraculously fixed them, and NEVER when the Republicans have made them worse.
But sure, vote to empower the Republicans as they have a great plan to solve all of these problems. It is called silencing and disenfranchising anyone who cares about them solving them.
But no worries because this person has always been silent when it comes to being concerned about what Republicans do to make those problems worse. She wants us to reject Dems for not solving them – presumably so the Republicans can make those problems even worse.
And if she believes empowering Republicans will make any of those issues she cites better, she is a troll. She wants Republicans to be in power because she knows they will target the progressives for destruction.
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Anyone who can’t see the Russian invasion of Ukraine and its instigator for what they are is a fruitcake, someone so blinded by ideology and propaganda that reasoning with him or her simply is not possible. It’s like trying to reason with any cultist. Don’t try to argue, “But have you actually seen the Enlightened Master levitate?” Some of the cultists will say, “Enlightened Master speaks only the truth,” and others will swear that yes, they’ve seen this. That’s the thing about ideology. It’s impregnable. There is no talking sense into the Disciples of Putinism.
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For that they are:
the Crime of Aggression, numerous War Crimes, and numerous Crimes against Humanity under international law
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Right now children are dying in Ukraine because of Putin’s war of choice. Defending this is complicity. It’s shocking and disgusting.
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And anyone who thinks that Russia will “win” this insane, criminal aggression against its neighbor is clueless, has no freaking idea what he or she is talking about. Here’s what I wrote on this blog back when D-77 was arguing that Putin wasn’t going to invade Ukraine but was just conducting exercises: Russia will get itself involved in a long and bloody war that it will ultimately lose, another Afghanistan.
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Neither Ukraine nor Russia can “win.” Ukraine will be reduced to rubble. Putin has already turned Russia into an international pariah and restored the Stalinist dictatorship. Even the Russian speaking Ukrainians hate him for his murderous campaign. Hundreds of foreign companies have left Russia. Tens of thousands of Russian troops are dead.
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From Neil deGrasse Tyson
Twitter 9/29/2020
“You can’t use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn’t use reason to get into.”
Bob, everything you say here is so spot on.
Unfortunately, I am coming to realize that it doesn’t matter for our resident Putin-defender. But your posts are very convincing to those of us who believe in reason. Thank you.
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“You can’t use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn’t use reason to get into.”
Love it!
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Tucker Carlson is not a journalist, he’s a mere media talking head just like Sean Hannity, Chris Hayes, Brian Stelter, Don Lemon, Oliver Darcy, etc. I don’t agree with his ideology in general, but he occasionally brings the issue which actually has a point. His critique of Ukraine–especially approving $40B aid with little to no oversight is something people shouldn’t dismiss.
The only moment that makes him look righteous is when he completely gets out of his old persona. As long as he pitches a conspiratorial, asinine ‘great replacement theory’ nonsense– he will remain as a deranged partisan talking head pitching for the great south conspiracy, no matter how much he’s willing to give people who have an opposing political view a mic.
Since I’m far less interested in who he was/is(Dan Crenshaw also turns me off. I don’t like his political view, either), I will defer to other people on this.
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Say what?? No one suggested that Tucker Carlson was a journalist.
Tucker Carlson may be like Sean Hannity, but he is nothing like Chris Hayes, Brian Stelter, Don Lemon, or Oliver Darcy.
Carlson and Hannity intentionally traffic in lies and demonize people they don’t like in order to rile up people who believe them and foment hate.
The others traffic in truth. They care about the truth. When they learn that they have misled their audience by giving them incorrect information, they correct it.
Why would you throw two people with zero – and I mean zero – credibility with other people who have credibility into the same vague basket of “media talking head”? It normalizes them. And it discredits the others.
It’s “both siderism”. Amplify the idea that “both sides” are the same and have the same credibility and don’t amplify that one side has credibility and one doesn’t.
This happens in ed reform, too. Eva Moskowitz say some quite questionable stuff, and I would it suspect if, during a critique of that here, someone unnecessarily said “she’s not a journalist” and then went on to say Eva Moskowitz is an education advocate, “just like” Michelle Rhee, Diane Ravitch and Deborah Meier and Leonie Haimson. It’s a misleading way to describe her that normalizes her (and Michelle Rhee) and her views. It implies they are all equally credible.
I just think we need to be careful in this dangerous time not to normalize folks who are not normal.
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Carleson is not a “mere talking head” in the same vein as Chris Hayes, Brian Stetler, Don Lemon, etc”
He, like Hannity, justifies any & all racism, antisemitism, white supremacy , far-right conspiracies and Christian Nationalism, as long as it helps Republicans. Carleson makes his viewers feel better about their prejudices, and arguably creates more problems than it solves.
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Media talking heads always love to spin their own views 24/7. That’s their job. It doesn’t matter if you like Carlson, Hannity, Ingram(on the right), or Hayes, Maddow, Reid (on the left). I watch neither side of cable news. I don’t see either side trustworthy at all. And I certainly don’t care how miserable their viewers turnout goes against them. I am aware that so many people have turned away from the mainstream news media and switched to independent news outlets and podcasts in the last several years.
More to the point, I am particularly troubled by Congress’s recent approval of $40B military aid bill. What’s really disturbing is that 1) the Congress padded $7B in addition to Biden’s initial proposal; and 2) there’s essentially no financial oversight on allocation of money.
NOTE: The money goes to 6 notorious top defense contractors– Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Analytic Services.
Why on earth was there no single who Democrat voted against the bill–not even Bernie Sanders? Why was it a politician like Rand Paul–not any progressive or left– who questioned the lack of oversight on the bill? AOC and other Squad members didn’t bother giving any reason for their votes[They have a history of voting for party loyalty]. And sadly, even Cori Bush toed the party line, although she addressed her concern over the bill that would primarily benefit for-profit contractors.
This is like IDEA charters or TFA on steroids, to me. Politicians are willing to throw $$$ into private channels in the name of a just war–amidst the inflation and supply chain crisis(i.e., baby formula) hitting the nation? The bill doesn’t have a clear financial oversight, and you can’t even question about that?
Kind of worldview politicians in two-party oligarch system has today.
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Ken,
Like I say, you just normalized Tucker Carlson and gave him credibility — or maybe you just worked to make people who support public schools far less credible.
Throw liars and non-liars in the same basket and then you have a reason not to support public schools.
“I don’t see either side trustworthy at all.”
Charters, union teachers, they are all out for themselves and I don’t trust the teachers union at all. Both sides lie all the time.
I hope you realize that is right out of the fascist playbook.
And then you ask why they come for the public schools and their teachers.
Why should we trust teachers and unions? Like charters, they just lie all the time and they are only out for themselves. Discussion closed. I’m only trust the media who tells me what I want to hear, which is that both union teachers and charters are equally bad. I heard a union teacher once abused a kid. Both sides, equally bad.
Not much fun when you realize now that you made this acceptable discourse, it comes back to bite those who don’t lie all the time.
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I remember back when I was 14 years old or so seeing a cartoon of LBJ standing with a rifle on top of a pile of dead Vietnamese babies, saying “Another village saved from Communism.” Well, the Russians have saved (or to use their word, liberated) Mariupol, the whole of Donbas, many villages outside Kiev, Irpin, much of Kharkiv. It is using non-guided missiles that strike randomly at civilian targets. Then its teenaged, untrained, undisciplined troops move in and shoot down civilians in the streets and rape women of all ages, children, teenagers, adults, grandmothers.
And this, Dienne, is what you defend.
When this is done, there will be war crimes tribunals, and it will all be spelled out at one time and in one place, but it is already being spelled out every day in news around the world in video and pictures and reports by journalists on the ground.
But I guess that murder and rape of civilians are just fine with some folks. Not with folks I would want to invite for dinner, but with some folks.
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And now they are doing this to Odesa, with its large Russian-speaking Ukrainian population. Odesa, where anyone who might once have had a soft spot for the Rodina now hates Russia and Russia with the kind of hatred one gets from seeing one’s home destroyed and one’s relatives and acquaintances slaughtered.
Which just goes to show you that there is nothing so evil, so vile, so horrific that there won’t be people who defend it.
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Bob It seems to me that there is no other choice for D77:
She is either incredibly stupid, even enough to draw pity, OR she is just having great fun being disingenuous, OR she is working for someone and getting paid to troll in the way she does.
From what I’ve seen, it’s BEYOND REASON to think anything else . . . . and apparently Diane has more that she has held back. In either case, a waste of good time that we’ll never get back to even respond. CBK
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The World Health Organization said yesterday that Russia has destroyed over 200 health facilities in Ukraines, including maternity hospitals.
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!!!!!!
Evil
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If you believe that the GOP would spend one rouble of the Ukraine aid for homeless, food aid, medical care or anything else for Americans in need, than you are truly delusional.
Additionally, it seems to have escaped your notice that Ukraine is an independent country and therefore they are completely within their rights to join NATO. Any argument that NATO is a danger to Russia is nonsense and both you and Putin know that.
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Crenshaw is a deeply conservative Republican who mostly went along with DT. Carlson is either the most cynical person Fox ever hired, or he is crazy.
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Carlson is Putin’s puppet. His lucrative position depends on him being Putin’s puppet.
Putin wants the US to be like Russia, where all criticism of him is silenced. Tucker is just doing what he is supposed to do.
He doesn’t care about anything but mouthing Putin propaganda, which means that if today’s propaganda contradicts last week’s, Carlson still spews it.
Not crazy, just doing his job.
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The MAGA branch of the Republican Party is very supportive of Putin. In my opinion Democrats would be wise to exploit this corrupt connection. https://accountability.gop/ukraine-quotes/
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CPAC is holding their annual meeting in Hungary to show solidarity with fellow Christofascists. It sure seems like the GOP is hurtling toward the 14th century.
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Well said.
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Tucker was saying this because the US has major issues at our own border and when Trump asked for 5 billion dollars to secure our southern border the democrats laughed at him. However the Dems have no problem sending over 40 billion plus to Ukraine for their border protection.
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So right-wing xenophobic garbage like this gets posted, but my posts don’t. Says a lot.
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Why do you call this garbage? At least this is more truthful because this right winger is absolutely correct that in the mid-terms, people who believe there is a limited amount of money (because the rich need to keep all their money) and want to use it to build a wall would vote for the Republicans in the midterms who will cut taxes for the rich and limit spending to the “important” things, like the wall and drones and the military.
The people who care about homelessness and hunger and baby formula and gas prices and medical bills would vote for the party who wants to address those, and not the party who always makes all problems that affect the poor even worse.
The Dems did oppose spending $5 billion at the southern border and Tucker and all people who refuse to vote for Democrats agree that is important. None of them believe that voting against Dems and empowering Tucker and his ilk will help homelessness or health care, and this guy at least didn’t post “garbage” like that since he knows that those problems will get worse.
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Yep, the same Republicans who just voted AGAINST money to address the baby formula crisis are who you should empower in the mid-terms if you care about the baby formula crisis. That is “garbage”.
But I bet they will definitely spend money on the southern border if they get empowered. That isn’t garbage. That is their agenda.
If the Republicans win power during the midterms, it will be a sign that folks don’t want the government to do anything about the baby formula crisis or homelessness or health care. It will be a sign that American voters prefer money spent on the southern border.
If you are one of them, vote against the Dems. That isn’t garbage.
Garbage is spewing the lie that voting against the Democrats will help those problems. If too many people believe the lie, it’s the liar’s fault, not the fault of the Dems who don’t have the right wing media outrage machine to amplify the lies.
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for the record, i posted this and I am not a republican or dem..i call it like common sense should call it…secure the border wall…plain and simple…it has nothing to do with politics…i bet when you go home Dienee you lock you doors to your home and secure your border wall .
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Whatever supposed problem exists at the southern border, it is bipartisan and has existed for a D or R administration. The US is perfectly capable of maintaining the southern border and aiding Ukraine with its war with Russia. Your trollish comment is without merit.
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Joe Jersey Yeah . . . more trolling. But also, do you think there might be some notable differences in what “invasion” means in either case of Mexico and Russia?
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Jersey Joe the problem is that the administration has NOT been able to maintain the southern border. Do you see what border patrol agents are saying? Listen to the people who are at the border enforcement and then talk
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Border I’m dead-serious about this question: What would you do? What would be a really good way to deal with the border, and (by way of pointing), with the problems presented by the political situation in Mexico? CBK
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You are the same Trump troll, writing message after message but too cowardly to use your name.
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Catherine the answer to your serious questions is as simple as Apple Pie – Good ole AMerican Apple Pie…and the answer is to just build a freken wall on the border the same way you close your door at night and secure your “border” before you go to sleep
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Simple ANswer Whoever you are, by your answer, it’s No Wonder you named yourself that. Except that you forgot to put the “over” in front of it. . . . as in, “oversimple.” I’ll consider the source “next time.” CBK
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We are not sending money to protect Ukraine’s border but to protect its survival as a sovereign nation.
Democrats and Republicans both voted to send $40 billion to Ukraine. If Ukraine stops Putin, he won’t try to gobble up other nations like Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Even Finland and Sweden seek protection from Czar Vlad.
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What is the problem at the Southern Border. I wasn’t aware that Mexico was reclaiming Tex-ass by force. But I would gladly give it back to them.
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What did Mexico do to you? So that you would wish Texas on them?
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GregB
I think you are right. I owe the Mexicans an apology. How about we give Florida back to Spain instead ! My apologies ahead of time to Bob.
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We hear in Floruhduh don’t recugnize govermint of eny kind, Jo-el, so makes no diffrance to us! Now, whar’s my Social Security chek?
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Joel, if you really are confused as to what is the problem at the southern border then I suggest you look up what the border patrol agents are saying. These agents are the ones who are actually at the border trying to protect our country from evil gangs and drugs coming across. Check out what the border patrol agents are saying and more importantly check out what they are confiscating from the illegal border crossers
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Greg another AMerican hater
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Hater,
I know your email. I know your name. Please stop posting behind fake names. Or I will post your email.
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Asylum for asylum seekers! Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free.
What America is about
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Bob I have often thought someone should put a huge paper bag over the head of The Statue of Liberty, our dear lady in the harbor. CBK
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Well said, Catherine. When I think of her today, she has her head in her hands, weeping at the bigotry of these disgusting privileged Americans of our time. Here we have immigrants coming to this country and living eight to a room and working hard at miserable jobs, in the hot sun for 10-12 hours, in meat-packing plants, undergoing unimaginable hardships in order to make betters lives for their kids or to send a few dollars back home to their elderly grandparents. This is what true nobility means, in my book, but these, these racist morons can’t see beyond their own privileged noses to their own similar immigrant ancestries. Well, I’m mostly Cherokee on my father’s side, so they can get the hell out of my country.
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Bob we can do that legally. The problem is we have too many people not obeying our laws and coming across the border. In many countries if you cross the border illegally they shoot you.
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No, not in MANY countries. Would you like the U.S. to be a lot more like North Korea? Really?
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It’s difficult to imagine anyone laughing at President in Exile Donald J. Trump, aka Glorious Leader Who Shines More Orange Than Does the Sun, he of the troll-doll yellow hair and the Cuckoo Coup, the Man with No Plan and the Tan in the Can, IQ45, Trumpty Dumpty, The Idiot, Teflon Don: the Sequel, Don the Con, Vlad’s Agent Orange, Moscow’s Agent Governing America (MAGA), Jabba the Trump, Don Cheeto “Little Fingers” Trumpbalone, the Posterboy for Malignant Pathological Narcissism, Dog-Whistle Don, the Bloated Bloviator, Child-Man in the Promised Land, The Great White Dope, Donnie Doolittle, this Pustule on the Body Politic
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This treasonous, sexist, criminal, homophobic, racist, fascist, predatory moron wasn’t and isn’t in the slightest bit funny, and “making fun” of him isn’t necessary; he does that himself. He has but to open his mouth and spew his hateful, ignorant, toddler English. The only American president ever whom, when he spoke to other leaders at the United Nations, actually had them LAUGH AT HIM. Putin’s chump, Trump, is an utter embarrassment. I would call Carlson a privileged, racist pig, but that would be insulting to pigs.
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cx: who, not whom
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Right wingers attacking right wingers, keep it up and escalate the inter-party feuding. Carlson has high ratings for his rancid anti-truth propaganda show, very sad for our country. On a sidenote: CPAC, the conservative group, is having its conference in Orban’s Hungary. CPAC and Orban, perfect together.
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It is clear that the right wing extremists in the Republican Party prefer authoritarianism over democracy. Ron DeSantis just signed a bill prohibiting protesting or “intentionally harassing or disturbing someone in their home.”
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I guess that means DeSantis will no longer be able to use heavily armed SWAT teams to harass and intimidate scientists and their children in their homes at gunpoint.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/12/08/desantis-aide-quits-over-florida-covid-policy-and-police-raid-of-data-scientist/?sh=522ae9ea318d
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Tucker Carlson, Mark Meadows and many others are in Viktor Orban Country this week.
Hungary/USA CPAC is being hosted by Center for Fundamental Rights & American Conservative Union/ACU 5/19 & 5/20 in Budapest.
They are refusing entry to all journalists from U.S. media outlets. AP/Guardian/Vox/NewYorker.
Orban will be the “Star Speaker”.
Radical Right Replacement Recruits Every Single One Of Them.
The Guardian
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“Progressive liberals, neo-Marxists dazed by the woke dream, people financed by George Soros and promoters of open societies … want to annihilate the Western way of life that you and us love so much,” Orban told the CPAC Conference on May19 in Budapest.
“We must coordinate the movement of our troops as we face a big test, 2024 will be a decisive year,”
The EU has accused Orban of curbing media and judicial independence and enriching his Pals with public funds.
He denies any corruption.
Orban laid out 12 points which he said were key to ensuring a dominance of conservativism, including playing by their own rules, standing up for national interests in foreign policy and gaining control over the media.
“We must reconquer the institutions in Washington D.C. and Brussels,” Orban said.
usnews.com
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Hungary, the heart of the Christian facist revival.
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Joe Jersey Yeah . . . more trolling. But also, do you think there might be some notable differences in what “invasion” means in either case of Mexico and Russia? cbk
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Tucker is Putin’s private tush-toilet. When Putin flushes, Tucker opens wide and gulps.
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Lloyd You are the KING of KINKY metaphors on that one. The problem is, however, . . . it’s true.
BTW, my note to Dienne is in moderation. But “I second that” to Diane above. CBK
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Hahahahahahaha! Excellent Lloyd. Thank you.
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REALLY Lloyd,,you are better than that …don’t let politics warp your mind
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Trump troll, use your name or I will. I know your name and email address.
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What we are seeing here is our Spanish Civil War moment. Then there were misgivings based on the entry into World War I and the subsequent Nye Commission investigation. Now, however, the United States is ruled by internationalists who look to the experience with Hitler and Stalin as proof that we must act now. It is difficult to argue, even for confirmed pacifists like me. Denying Ukrainian aid is tantamount to giving not so tacit approval for any adventuresome act on the part of any country or individual.
Helping Ukraine means that we have some credibility the next time the US wants to invade the next Iraq. Those of us who were fraught with misgivings about that little go at nation building were laughed at back then. Some of the same people who laughed at us are screaming now that the West should not stop Putin.
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Speaking of that war of choice against Iraq, it was Robert Byrd, of all people (and former KKK member), who gave a fiery speech against the Iraq war.
From Snopes:
In recent months [in 2003] Senator Byrd has controlled the floor of the Senate for hours at a time, hammering away at what he sees as the weaknesses and secrecy in President Bush’s proposal to create a Homeland Security Department and criticizing the President’s calls for military action against Iraq. In a series of caustic and emotional floor speeches he has accused President Bush of seeking war with Iraq to distract the country from its domestic problems, maintained that the President is drumming up support for an Iraq war to boost his poll ratings, questioned how the U.S. will pay the costs of going to war, and opposed President Bush’s asking Congress for the authority to go to war with Iraq as “an unconstitutional blank check.”
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The Second Iraq War and the invasion of Ukraine were both wrong for the same reasons. Both were horrific violations of international law done on false pretexts. George Bush, Jr., just made the Freudian slip of the century in his speech about Ukraine. And both what he intended to say and what he said were true. Both were evil and stupid and based on falsehoods and even, ironically, counterproductive to interests of the countries that carried them out.
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The $40 billion aid to Ukraine legislation has been passed by large majorities of both Democrats and Republicans in Congress; the public overwhelmingly supports Ukraine in its existential battle with Russia. Whatever Trump’s opinion on this matter, a large majority of people who voted for him in 2020 favor aiding Ukraine, which is as bipartisan a cause as we’ll see barring a direct attack on the U.S.
It is true that the bulk of the money in this legislation will be used to pay weapons manufacturers for the equipment that will be given to Ukraine’s military. Those manufacturers are the only sources of the needed military equipment, and they have to pay their employees, meet overhead expenses, and pay their own suppliers. Likewise for contractors who build or rehab school buildings; they are paid to provide what is deemed a public good as enacted via elected legislatures. In both cases the net profit is only a few percent of the public money that is spent. There is nothing sinister about that fact.
To say it again: strange bedfellows. Opposition to helping Ukraine is a combination of the reflexively anti-American Left, committed pacifists (very few actually exist), the isolationist Right, and pro-Putin reactionaries. Moderates, mainstream liberals, and mainstream conservatives overwhelmingly support Ukraine’s fight to remain independent and to curb Putin’s Greater Russia desires.
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Jack Safely Well-said. Indeed, what would have happened in World War II if American arms and other manufacturers didn’t step up to the plate of national and international threats with their work and product, and with amazing systematics and timing.
It’s messy, though. My understanding of it is that they overplayed their hand during the Vietnam war, in the way that Ike’s famous speech suggested. . . . Bad thinking and moral hazard have a way of trumping all. CBK
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There is nothing sinister about that fact.
Agreed
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Thank you, Jack. It’s extraordinarily important that we have this capability. As Putin made abundantly clear, in case people didn’t understand this, the world is a dangerous place. Walk softly and carry a big stick.
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The real story of January 6th was not the idiot mob that stormed the Capitol. There will always be mobs of idiots. The real story is this: Inside the Capitol, as this was gathering steam outside, a gang of Senators and Congresspeople were attempting to overthrow a democratic election. There is one word for this: treason.
How does this relate to Ukraine? Well, here:
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And some of those traitors inside the Capitol have degrees from our most prestigious institutions: Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, for example.
Those degrees and their law licenses and their right to serve in elected office should all be revoked. What they did was treason. The proper place for them is not in office but in prison.
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OK, perhaps not their degrees, but definitely their licenses to practice law and the elected offices they hold. They violated their oaths. Why is this not obvious? Because we have two systems of law in the U.S., one for peons like those who stormed the Capitol, and another for the powerful like those who were storming democracy itself inside the Capitol. That they continue in office makes a complete mockery of the phrase “Equal justice under law” inscribed over the entrance to the Supreme Court.
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Well said. Lots of politicians are hypocrites. I don’t think much of the current crop of Republicans. I find it hard to believe that quite a few right wing politicians are enamored with Putin or even Orban, and the mainstream press largely ignores the connection.
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Mitt Romney was governor for a time when I lived in Massachusetts. I disagreed with him about a lot of stuff, but he was a good governor. He worked across the aisle. He took the welfare of the people of his state seriously. He created for Massachusetts what later became known as Obamacare. Sadly, he felt it necessary to repudiate the very program for which his was the model when he was running in Repugnican primaries. But the days of Republicans like him and Bill Weld, also from Massachusetts, are past. Tragically.
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Romney apparently never knew what state he lived in .
He ran for governor of MA while claiming his Utah home as his primary residence.
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But I would agree that is still better than most Republicans today, who don’t know what country they live in.
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And for any Republicans reading this: Texanistan and DeSantistan are not sovereign nations.
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Let’s talk about the reality here.
The reason that the US is providing aid is so that the people of Ukraine can defend their own country against an aggressor who has no moral or ethical center. We already know that Putin easily destroys whoever gets in his way, even if it is a former friend. They must kowtow to what he wants, and if they stand in his way, they mysteriously die or disappear.
But the US is NOT committing its own troops. All of the progressives understand that there is a difference between helping Ukraine stand up to a man with absolutely no moral center who WILL NOT STOP, and having our military fight for them.
Putin and Trump are two peas in a pod. They are both have that ruthless ease of eliminating anyone who stands in their way, without having a conscience that bothers them.
I have always thought Trump would definitely choose to sacrifice his own children than himself. I can’t say that of many parents — I don’t think even the most reprehensible Republicans would rather have their children imprisoned or harmed rather than themselves, especially if they were the ones directing the crimes.
But I do believe that of Trump after seeing him all these decades. He is always the only thing that matters. And he has no conscience that would make him feel bad that his children are suffering so he can be happy.
It seems like Putin has that, too. Does he care about anyone? He is probably the richest person in the world, with more money than he could spend in a million lifetimes, and he still easily hurts other people so he can have more that he doesn’t even need.
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Bob I have often thought someone should put a huge paper bag over the head of The Statue of Liberty, our dear lady in the harbor. CBK
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So well said, CBK!
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Carlson (flabby) and tRump (flabby) are pushed off a 20 story building at the same time. Who hits the ground first?
Who cares. It’s the falling which is the important part.
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wow has politics warped this person’s mind…..these are people and you are stating that this should happen? Send this to the misinformation Dept. at the Biden White House…..LMAO
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Sir, if I did not hold these two men culpable in the steady march of your nation towards a civil communal conflict similar to that which we witnessed in the UK in Northern Ireland I would not have made that remark.
They have both demonstrated a capacity to make inflammatory remarks to dangerously irresponsible degree. Carlson I suspect simply because he will get higher ratings and Trump because he is unable to comprehend that he was no longer required in the Whitehouse.
I have nothing but contempt for the pair of them. (Presumably you are not familiar with satire either, and the difference between allegorical commentary and literal action.)
I now leave you to come back with the tired and predictable remark that ‘I know nothing about the USA’, and then we can go another round.
That is your choice.
I am keeping the rest of my powder dry.
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Unrelated, but here is an EXCELLENT video about the school privatization movement by The Young Turks. This host on the “far left” outlet gave one of the most clear explanations of the privatization agenda that I’ve seen by someone NOT working in education in some capacity.
Oh how I wish mainstream Democratic politicians and commentators were this vocal and clear about their support for public education and the threat the voucher/“choice” agenda is to the most vulnerable. However, they’re too busy compromising on education. The poor or almost poor won’t be able to pay the balance on the schools voucher supporters imply they will be able to attend, so they’ll instead be going to school in a strip mall or sitting in front of a computer all day.
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Thank you. I watched part of this, and you are right.
Good that young folks can actually see when the emperor has no clothes. The pablum and nonsense the anti-public school folks say all the time while so-called mainstream journalist/stenographers dutifully write down every word needs to be called out.
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I don’t know anything about this Medium writer, but he’s mostly quoting Chomsky (who, I will remind you, vehemently supported Biden against Trump) and others. Worth a read. https://medium.com/statecraft-and-global-affairs/chomsky-on-ukraine-america-is-manufacturing-monsters-f136e7b217a9
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This article was written over a month ago. I read the article where Chomsky said that the west should not help Ukraine because the only answer to Putin’s invasion is to negotiate. I scoured his article to find any information about why Putin would negotiate. I couldn’t find it. His advice to Ukraine: abandon your sovereignty and let Putin choose your leadership.
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Diane Such is the wispy imagination of those intelligentsia among us who still think everyone, at their core, is necessarily reasonable. I have news for them:
They can be, but they choose not.
I saw in a documentary on PBS Putin saying (in translation) that: “I don’t think like you.” I thought at the time, I think we just caught him telling a great truth. CBK
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Every liberal’s favorite newly rehabilitated war criminal George W. Bush admits U.S. broke promises to Russia regarding NATO expansion: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/20/bush-admits-us-broke-promise-on-nato-expansion/
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Dienne, every time you say that NATO “expanded,” you need to be reminded that nations must apply to join NATO. The newly freed captive satellites joined NATO because they were afraid of Putin. Each of them could be gobbled up by Tussia if Putin decided to revive the dear USSR dictatorship. Why do you think neutral Finland and Sweden want to join NATO? They border a bully. They need allies. No one is pressuring them.
Putin has unified NATO.
Like you, Trump wanted to destroy it. Probably because Putin told him to.
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Is Dienne from Chicago? The windy city with all the crime?
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OMG now she is quoting GW Bush!!! No one here has ever rehabilitated GW Bush, but it is so fascinating that our resident Putin-lover now has!
What is it about GW Bush that this Ukraine-hater loves so much? Inquiring minds want to know?
Sure, let’s trust the guy who told us about WMD! He has so much credibility.
Diane, notice she isn’t linking to anything written by Bernie or AOC. I apologize for bringing them up again, but I think the fact that this pro-Putin person hasn’t linked to AOC or Bernie comments in months or even years tells you that she ONLY trusts whoever reinforces the false narrative she is pushing — and if that means GWB, she will do it.
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Bottom line, under dem control and Biden our country has lost its way….anyone who does not understand or see this is tainted by politics and the media. The awful truth is that this country is suffering from poor management and that my friends falls under all of the politicians in DC from both parties. Just observing all the bickering here amongst Diane’s followers is truly sad in that the ignorance shows by their political views and not their common sense.
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Love that you say that country is under poor management with Biden.
I have a Trump University to sell ya! I have a high unemployment rate and big tax cut for billionaires to sell ya! “Come work for me as a subcontractor and I won’t pay you” to sell ya!
Republican voters are masochists if they aren’t billionaires. They would all be giving Trump $30,000 for his “new” Trump U to get rich and then when they are bankrupt, they’d be cursing the Democrats for ruining their lives. It really is a cult. “Common Sense” indeed. More like folks willing to die for the good of billionaires who tell them their sacrifice will MAGA.
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NYC public Bravo . . . well done. CBK
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Let ME Deleted without reading. CBK
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CBK,
You are wise. These people are trolls.
Does anyone think a bunch of “build that wall” right wingers suddenly found Diane Ravitch’s blog just when dienne77 started sowing her usual hate (against Ukraine and the Dems, but she doesn’t hate the right wingers one iota)?
There is no way it is a coincidence that right wing trolls come here when dienne77 does.
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The troll is using a synonym for his real name. He is posting under several different aliases. When I identify him by his email, I will post his name. It’s a he.
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Diane What’s that saying? You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time? Or something like that.
The not-so-hidden point is that they think we are as stupid and slavish AS THEY ARE.
Putin is the same way . . . he seems to think everyone in the world will believe his lies for the rest of eternity. He makes me want to write cartoons. CBK
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He fools only his own people. Tens of thousands of highly educated Russians—tech specialists, artists, others—have left Russia.
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