I have posted repeatedly here about the dismal academic results of virtual charter schools. Students have high attrition rates, low test scores, and low graduation rates.
This finding has been reported again and again. In 2015, CREDO at Stanford said that students lose almost a year of learning in math when they attend virtual charter schools. In many states, the virtual charters are the state’s lowest performing schools. Pennsylvania has many virtual charter schools, and none of them has ever met state benchmarks in reading and math.
The latest study comes from Indiana, as reported by Stephanie Wang in Chalkbeat.
Faced with low academic results at online schools across the country, supporters often defend virtual education because it provides a haven for struggling students.
But a new study in Indiana found that students fell further behind after transferring to virtual charter schools. The findings suggest that online schools post low outcomes not simply because the students they serve face challenges, but because of problems with how online learning works — and the shortfalls of not having a physical classroom.
The new research, to be published in the journal Educational Researcher, is in line with other studies that have shown that students who transfer to virtual charter schools saw significant drops in their math and reading scores.
“Parents need to know that as they’re making these choices,” said Mark Berends, director of the University of Notre Dame’s Center for Research on Educational Opportunity.
Berends, along with three other researchers, tracked seven years of recent test scores to look at how Hoosier students in grades 3-8 performed before and after they transferred to virtual charter schools. The study compares students at virtual charters to peers in brick-and-mortar classrooms with similar profiles at the same academic level.
The declines equate to a student who was performing at an average level (50th percentile) sinking to the 35th percentile in math and the 40th percentile in reading, Berends said.
It didn’t make much of a difference which virtual charter school they attended or which teachers they had, according to the study. And the negative effects weren’t just due to the disruption of switching schools — unlike students who transferred to brick-and-mortar charter schools, students’ scores didn’t bounce back after the transition.
Even if students had been struggling before changing to an online setting, researchers concluded that they would have fared far better had they stayed at a traditional public school.
Researchers couldn’t exactly pin down why those declines happen. Their theory is that the problem could lie in the very nature of a virtual environment being “inherently limiting” when it comes to how teachers interact with students and how many more students are in each class. It can be hard to track how long students really spend at their computers and to make sure students keep up with their schoolwork.
Do you think any state will close down failing virtual charters? Back when Kevin Huffman was state superintendent in Tennessee, he tried to close down the state’s virtual charter, the lowest performing school in the state. He couldn’t do it. He wrote an article called “An Ed Commissioner’s Confession: How I Tried (and Failed) to Close the Worst School in Tennessee.”
At some point, you have to wonder whether state legislatures simply don’t care about the quality of education in their state.
I forwarded this article to blockhead state Senator Niemeyer [R-IN] and Representative Chyung [D-IN]. Thank you, Diane, for giving me more information to protest what is happening in this state.
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Dear Senator Niemeyer and Representative Chyung,
Here is more confirmation that you are wasting taxpayer money when you give anything to virtual schools. The worst fact is that children don’t learn in these schools. I agree with Diane Ravitch’s last comment, “At some point, you have to wonder whether state legislatures simply don’t care about the quality of education in their state.”
Berends, along with three other researchers, tracked seven years of recent test scores to look at how Hoosier students in grades 3-8 performed before and after they transferred to virtual charter schools. The study compares students at virtual charters to peers in brick-and-mortar classrooms with similar profiles at the same academic level.
The declines equate to a student who was performing at an average level (50th percentile) sinking to the 35th percentile in math and the 40th percentile in reading, Berends said.
It didn’t make much of a difference which virtual charter school they attended or which teachers they had, according to the study. And the negative effects weren’t just due to the disruption of switching schools — unlike students who transferred to brick-and-mortar charter schools, students’ scores didn’t bounce back after the transition.
Sincerely,
Carol Ring [retired teacher]
[Gave my address and phone #]
Thank you, Carol. You are relentless!
Diane: Representative Chyung knows me. [I have his private cell phone number but only used it once and that was to confirm that he was coming to see constituents at a hamburger place 5 minutes from where I live.]
He says he reads everything I send.
Before he ran as a representative, we worked together to put out flyers in NW Indiana informing people that 500,000 people had been dropped from the voter rolls. I got a chance to talk with him because we rode in his car and he knew the area. He is liberal and I was very pleased when he won the election. He is working to get better funding for public schools.
How interesting. I got a response back from Niemeyer. He isn’t claiming to want to stop funding of virtual schools.
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RE: Lawmakers reject plan to crack down on Indiana virtual schools. Here’s what they propose instead.
senator.niemeyer@iga.in.gov
2:16 PM (57 minutes ago)
Dear Ms. Ring,
Thank you for your letter regarding the matters surrounding the two virtual charter schools and tuition over-payment.
The State Board of Education (SBOE), in conjunction with the State Board of Accounts (SBOA), is thoroughly investigating this matter and concurrently, the state is withholding future tuition payments. SBOE has further recommended that the Department of Education sue the charter school operators to recoup the funding. In addition, the members of the General Assembly have been examining this issue and there is language in HB 1066 that addresses virtual charter school accountability. I will be closely monitoring this bill as it moves through conference committee.
Thank you again for contacting me.
Sincerely,
Senator Rick Niemeyer
Indiana State Senate
I think ed reformers should have to explain why the leader of their “movement”, Jeb Bush, recklessly promoted and sold online learning all over the country for a decade:
“In June 2010, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush traveled to Columbus, Ohio, to give the commencement speech for the Electronic Classroom of Tomorrow, the state’s largest virtual charter school. ECOT, which provides K-12 online education for kids who never set foot inside a classroom, was celebrating its 10th anniversary and its largest graduating class—nearly 2,000 kids. Naturally, the event, held on the campus of Ohio State University, was webcast for those who couldn’t make it.
Bush served up the usual graduation platitudes about the future. Then he hit on the reason he was saluting this particular school: digital learning. It was, he said, nothing short of a revolutionary approach, a way to meet “the unique needs of each student so that their God-given abilities are maximized, so they can pursue their dreams armed with the power of knowledge.”
It wasn’t the first time Bush had praised the wonders of online education. Over the past year, he’s emerged as one of the nation’s most prominent boosters of virtual schools, touring the country to promote technology as an instrument of creative destruction against the public school system. Last December, he teamed up with former West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise, a Democrat, to launch a new initiative called Digital Learning Now, which is aimed at tearing down legal barriers to public funding for virtual classrooms.”
Jeb Bush is an ed reform superstar- he still has a huge influence on K-12 education and yet he was dead wrong on his single biggest sales job and promotion.
When will he be held accountable? Why is he still considered an expert and why does he still run ed reform? Are we just all supposed to forget they all sold this garbage, for years? They spent billions of dollars on it. It’s a massive failure.
Public school leaders need to STOP taking the advice of ed reformers. They give bad advice. Stop swallowing this nonsense. We hire public school leaders to get THEIR expertise, not the product promotions of Jeb Bush. If we wanted to buy what Jeb Bush is selling we would have hired HIM. We didn’t.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/jeb-bush-digitial-learning-public-schools/
Chiara,
Please google Jeb Bush’s call to action “Digital Learning NOW!”, which he co-authored with former West Virginia governor Bob Wise.
And note that his sponsors were vendors of hardware and software.
Jeb Bush gets lots of misplaced attention because his last name is Bush. He is the architect of failure: cyber charters and grade rankings for schools, to name two of them. He has done nothing to improve education in Florida or elsewhere.
Bush is hugely influential in ed reform. Even when we DON’T hire him, even when we elect someone else, we STILL get Jeb Bush. Arne Duncan used him as a consultant.
Why does ed reform insist on foisting this former governor on the nation’s public school children? Has he accomplished ANYTHING positive or worthwhile for a single public school student?
Why is my state public school system and federal education agency being run by a former Florida governor who sneeringly refers to my son’s school as a “government school”? How do I get rid of his influence? I’m just stuck with him forever? How many times does he have to be wrong before he’s discredited?
Broadening from virtual schools-
Mark Berends, if he is an objective researcher, might be a better source for the state Catholic Conferences to cite in their political activities. Their current selection is American Federation of Children and the favorites of the Witherspoon Institute.
Has Berends’ CREO (who funds?) researched Cristo Rey, which media report buys Common Core curriculum, utilizes blended learning, has a prototype with 60 students per class and requires students to work one week a month for private companies and return the pay to the school? CREO’s on-line blurb states that the group pays special attention to less privileged students and Catholic schools. Cristo Rey is largely in inner cities.
Notre Dame’s ACE has an education summit planned this year in New Orleans, a city that recently closed its last remaining public school, forcing middle class and poor students to choose between charter schools (high turnover TFA’s) and, religious schools.
Gates funds Cristo Rey schools.
The Christo Rey Network has a website with a full description of their focus, work experience program and much else.
Our local Christo Rey is a selective admission private Catholic high school. It is designed to attract “ambitious” African American and Latinx parents who undergo interviews and agree to checklists of conditions for their children to be enrolled as students. Students can earn money for their tuition in their work study program but the work-study program is for all students. This school enjoys support from local businesses and philanthropies. https://www.depaulcristorey.org/work-study/our-partners
The students are given basic lessons in good grooming, appropriate attire, and acceptable language and behavior for their work assignments…all of these in white-collar environments, some with social service agencies. Each Corporate Partner/Supervisor reviews and grades the performances of their student workers four times a year. Students are graded on acceptable business practices, technical skills for the job, and “lifelong learning behavior.” EdChoice vouchers will be acceped at this school.
Students have laptops and they use these to submit their assignments. There is more information on the curriculum and requirements at the website.
Supporters hope that the students are earning their way up and out of poverty and into at least a middle-class life. Read rules of the road in the student handbook here. https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1564756986/depaul/x45qc2b9dzypt1qbkbhg/2019-20_Student_Handbook.pdf
This school is run by the Sisters of Charity, not the Archdiocese of Cincinnati.
The Trump Administration is deregulating apprenticeships:
“One commenter stated that the NAA does not authorize the IRAP model because the legislative history of the NAA indicates it was meant “to bring Government oversight to apprenticeship, and that it did so by directing DOL, in concert with the states, to establish minimum standards to protect apprentices from exploitation.” Commenters argued that the IRAP model does not match this history because it places trust in private actors who could manipulate and mislead apprentices without government oversight.
In response to these particular comments, the Department notes that this regulation establishes the broad standards under which apprentices will work and train, including the requirement that apprentices enter into an apprenticeship agreement that discloses the terms and conditions of the program. ”
Young people will get brutally ripped off. The new rules were written by industry lobbying groups. Please, if you’re in a position to advise young people help them navigate these apprenticeships- they could spend years of their lives in a program that offers them no real benefit at all.
It’s a shame. You wonder if a country can survive by eating its own young people. They just get ripped off over and over, and it’s all people over 70 years old who are robbing them. Disgusting.
I knew they would ruin apprenticeships. It was a fad in ed reform and I knew they’d produce cheap garbage. You could weep.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/03/11/2020-03605/apprenticeship-programs-labor-standards-for-registration-amendment-of-regulations
Indiana’s Republican state legislators care as much about the truth as Trump does.
The state is run by the Koch’s ALEC like Ohio is. Legislators expanded Ohio vouchers even after Figlio’s study found they didn’t have a positive academic outcome. Ohio’s governor is Catholic, as is the Senate President. The Koch network found a sweet spot in the midwest- convergence of Catholic school interest and profit takers from the ed sector. There’s no relevance for Main Street’s survival nor for what the public wants, when religious ideologues and financial exploiters form an alliance.
Jefferson- “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot abetting his abuses in return for protection of his.”
“Other commenters contended that the IRAP model does not operate in the best interests of the apprentice because the model has not adopted minimum standards for IRAPs, such as formal apprentice contracts, progressive wage increases, fair discipline and proper supervision, standards for instructors’ education, independent oversight, statewide uniformity, safety standards, and protection of apprentices against discrimination and harassment.”
They’re going to have 18 year olds enter into individual unregulated contract employment with huge corporations that someone, somewhere, describes as “an apprenticeship” but which is not regulated and has no protections at all for the apprentice. Because everyone knows an 18 year old is on an equal footing with a huge corporate employer.
It’s not an apprenticeship. It’s a low wage job. These adults who are public employees are robbing people who are barely out of high school.
For shame. Young people cannot catch a break. These sharks are just waiting to eat them.
If your kid or one of your students is thinking about signing up for a Trump “apprenticeship” make sure and them the adults who designed the program did not even include SAFETY STANDARDS. They’re going to stick them on job sites with no training and no safety standards.
That’s how much contempt they have for young working people. It will be a disaster but it will take years for anyone to find out, let alone act on it.
They should all be ashamed of themselves.
Districts love these virtual schools because they help them to boost their graduation numbers. They can offer students a lame, easy version of a course to take online to complete their graduation requirements. I suspect that this is what has kept virtual charters alive despite their abysmal rates of failure.
Some possible explanations:
Interacting with people (teachers and other students) is engaging; interacting with software isn’t.
One type of engagement of significance is feedback from another human.
There is pressure on virtual charters to make courses really easy because these courses are so widely used for credit recovery.
When kids are taking these courses, they are at home, where there are many distractions.
When kids are taking these courses, they are on their computers, where there are many distractions. Why finish this lesson when you can be playing Fortnite?
The design quality of the online courses is low. E.g., they don’t do much of what they claim to do (such as accurately diagnose where kids are to place them in the learning progression at their zone of proximal development or such as get at the root causes of a particular kid’s issues).
The courses tend to be taken by kids from low SES groups who are using outdated computers.
As with much in the world, there are doubtless multiple explanations. What can’t be rationally explained is why, given the poor results of these schools and the rampant dishonesty by their owners, such as inflation of enrollment rates, states have not eliminated these schools. Instead, they do what they have long done with invalid high-stakes standardized tests: they replace one terrible vendor with another terrible vendor.
At least some of the virtual schools are run by state representatives or by people with ties to state representatives.
That explains why some of them are not shut down.
Yes. Another reason.
I feel sorry for my nieces who are having to go home from college and learn online, possibly for the remainder of the spring semester.
They are not going to get the same education they would have received in person.
It doesn’t matter what method and software are used. Online ed is inherently inferior.
It does not take a genius to understand this.
“Understanding” necessitates the absence of a motive to take money.
In the Trump era truth does not matter.
Truth the first victim of tyranny.