The New York Times recently posted three articles, all written by Nellie Bowles, about the dangers of technology, the risk of addiction. I will post all three today.
One technologist compared tech addiction to crack cocaine.
It is shocking that the same people who are aggressively selling tech-cocaine to America’s children and schools keep it away from their own children.
This is the first in a series.
SAN FRANCISCO — The people who are closest to a thing are often the most wary of it. Technologists know how phones really work, and many have decided they don’t want their own children anywhere near them.
A wariness that has been slowly brewing is turning into a regionwide consensus: The benefits of screens as a learning tool are overblown, and the risks for addiction and stunting development seem high. The debate in Silicon Valley now is about how much exposure to phones is O.K.
“Doing no screen time is almost easier than doing a little,” said Kristin Stecher, a former social computing researcher married to a Facebook engineer. “If my kids do get it at all, they just want it more.”
Ms. Stecher, 37, and her husband, Rushabh Doshi, researched screen time and came to a simple conclusion: they wanted almost none of it in their house. Their daughters, ages 5 and 3, have no screen time “budget,” no regular hours they are allowed to be on screens. The only time a screen can be used is during the travel portion of a long car ride (the four-hour drive to Tahoe counts) or during a plane trip.
Recently she has softened this approach. Every Friday evening the family watches one movie.
There is a looming issue Ms. Stecher sees in the future: Her husband, who is 39, loves video games and thinks they can be educational and entertaining. She does not.
“We’ll cross that when we come to it,” said Ms. Stecher, who is due soon with a boy.
Some of the people who built video programs are now horrified by how many places a child can now watch a video.
Asked about limiting screen time for children, Hunter Walk, a venture capitalist who for years directed product for YouTube at Google, sent a photo of a potty training toilet with an iPad attached and wrote: “Hashtag ‘products we didn’t buy.’”
Athena Chavarria, who worked as an executive assistant at Facebook and is now at Mark Zuckerberg’s philanthropic arm, the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, said: “I am convinced the devil lives in our phones and is wreaking havoc on our children.”
Ms. Chavarria did not let her children have cellphones until high school, and even now bans phone use in the car and severely limits it at home.
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She said she lives by the mantra that the last child in the class to get a phone wins. Her daughter did not get a phone until she started ninth grade.
“Other parents are like, ‘Aren’t you worried you don’t know where your kids are when you can’t find them?’” Ms. Chavarria said. “And I’m like, ‘No, I do not need to know where my kids are every second of the day.’”
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For longtime tech leaders, watching how the tools they built affect their children has felt like a reckoning on their life and work.
Among those is Chris Anderson, the former editor of Wired and now the chief executive of a robotics and drone company. He is also the founder of GeekDad.com.
“On the scale between candy and crack cocaine, it’s closer to crack cocaine,” Mr. Anderson said of screens.
Technologists building these products and writers observing the tech revolution were naïve, he said.
“We thought we could control it,” Mr. Anderson said. “And this is beyond our power to control. This is going straight to the pleasure centers of the developing brain. This is beyond our capacity as regular parents to understand.”
He has five children and 12 tech rules. They include: no phones until the summer before high school, no screens in bedrooms, network-level content blocking, no social media until age 13, no iPads at all and screen time schedules enforced by Google Wifi that he controls from his phone. Bad behavior? The child goes offline for 24 hours.
“I didn’t know what we were doing to their brains until I started to observe the symptoms and the consequences,” Mr. Anderson said.
“This is scar tissue talking. We’ve made every mistake in the book, and I think we got it wrong with some of my kids,” Mr. Anderson said. “We glimpsed into the chasm of addiction, and there were some lost years, which we feel bad about.”
His children attended private elementary school, where he saw the administration introduce iPads and smart whiteboards, only to “descend into chaos and then pull back from it all.”
This idea that Silicon Valley parents are wary about tech is not new. The godfathers of tech expressed these concerns years ago, and concern has been loudest from the top.
Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphones until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads.
But in the last year, a fleet of high-profile Silicon Valley defectors have been sounding alarms in increasingly dire terms about what these gadgets do to the human brain. Suddenly rank-and-file Silicon Valley workers are obsessed. No-tech homes are cropping up across the region. Nannies are being asked to sign no-phone contracts.
Those who have exposed their children to screens try to talk them out of addiction by explaining how the tech works.
John Lilly, a Silicon Valley-based venture capitalist with Greylock Partners and the former C.E.O. of Mozilla, said he tries to help his 13-year-old son understand that he is being manipulated by those who built the technology.
“I try to tell him somebody wrote code to make you feel this way — I’m trying to help him understand how things are made, the values that are going into things and what people are doing to create that feeling,” Mr. Lilly said. “And he’s like, ‘I just want to spend my 20 bucks to get my Fortnite skins.’”
And there are those in tech who disagree that screens are dangerous. Jason Toff, 32, who ran the video platform Vine and now works for Google, lets his 3-year-old play on an iPad, which he believes is no better or worse than a book. This opinion is unpopular enough with his fellow tech workers that he feels there is now “a stigma.”
“One reaction I got just yesterday was, ‘Doesn’t it worry you that all the major tech execs are limiting screen time?’” Mr. Toff said. “And I was like, ‘Maybe it should, but I guess I’ve always been skeptical of norms.’ People are just scared of the unknown.”
“It’s contrarian,” Mr. Toff said. “But I feel like I’m speaking for a lot of parents that are afraid of speaking out loud for fear of judgment.”
He said he thinks back to his own childhood growing up watching a lot of TV. “I think I turned out O.K.,” Mr. Toff said.
Other Silicon Valley parents say there are ways to make some limited screen time slightly less toxic.
Renee DiResta, a security researcher on the board of the Center for Humane Tech, won’t allow passive screen time, but will allow short amounts of time on challenging games.
She wants her 2- and 4-year-old children to learn how to code young, so she embraces their awareness of gadgets. But she distinguishes between these types of screen use. Playing a building game is allowed, but watching a YouTube video is not, unless it is as a family.
And Frank Barbieri, a San Francisco-based executive at the start-up PebblePost that tracks online activity to send direct mail advertising, tries to limit his 5-year-old daughter’s screen time to Italian language content.
“We have friends who are screen abolitionists, and we have friends who are screen liberalists,” Mr. Barbieri said.
He had read studies on how learning a second language at a young age is good for the developing mind, so his daughter watches Italian-language movies and TV shows.
“For us, honestly, me and my wife were like, ‘Where would we like to visit?’” Mr. Barbieri said.
Really important points. Thanks for sharing this.
Our son, who is a child psychologist, has been talking about this issue for a number of years.
Gee, same thing with schools: “reform” public schools, but send their kids to private schools (that are not subject to their own “reforms).
“Do what I tell you to do. Shut up about what I do with my kids. Don’t you know that my kids are going places, while yours are going…nowhere?”
That’s the ultimate hypocrisy of so-called reformers.
YES. Such a BIG difference between “our” kids who need protection, and “their” kids who (turning out to be such lucrative guinea pigs) don’t need protection but “fixing” — and this exact mental manipulation happens across the nation in district after district where wealthier protective parental involvement controls school climate in affluent neighborhood schools while these same parents argue that surely the kids across town “need” reform…
I have 2 kids…17 yr old girl and 14 yr old boy. Both grew up watching PBS kids shows only and went to 1/2 day preK. Girl got a phone in 8th grade and manages it well, although she doesn’t know how to set up the “phone” portion or the phone mailbox portion…she essentially uses it for texting. Boy got a phone in 8th grade but got an XBox the year before. Boy child is addicted to both and I’ve told him it would be a very bad idea to ever set foot in a casino as an adult. The changes in my boy’s attitude and school work ethic are like night and day when we allow too much screen time….I tell him to turn off the “crack”! At school (private boy’s HS) he has an Ipad for completing some assignments, accessing some text books and doing some guided research, but NO PHONES are allowed to be used within the school during school hours….automatic detention(3 days after school) and confiscation of the phone until a parent comes in for a meeting with admin. I’d like to see some research on the effects of usage between boys and girls.
I’m shocked that you can still be shocked by anything Silicon Valley does.
You really have to read the Summit marketing to believe it.
This is from “News Provided By Summit”:
“The Summit Learning Program is partnering with 380 schools in 39 states and Washington, D.C. –a twentyfold increase since the program began partnering with schools three years ago.
The innovative personalized learning model was developed at a high-performing network of public schools in California before it was adopted by schools nationwide. The program’s growth has been accelerated primarily through teacher word-of-mouth.”
I cannot believe ed reformers jammed this propaganda into public schools. Shame on the public school principals who fell for it. They should all lose their jobs
I’m surprised ONLY because it’s so crude and blatant- so CLEARLY pushing product. You would think they would be better at sales with all the money they spend on it.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/teacher-demand-for-summit-learning-model-surges-300743423.html
The first lie is that Summit was developed at “punlic schools” in California. It was d3veloped at charter schools. You can call a duck a pig, but it’s still a duck.
You can call a pig a duck. But it’s still a swine
It’s still a “swindle.” That’s a variation of a swine.
I like “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”
We had a presentation from an ed tech salesperson last year. It was such blatant BS I’m ashamed anyone at all bought it- thankfully the vast majority of people there recognized it as BS. It’s gibberish. It’s whole paragraphs of slogans.
That anyone thought it would be a good idea to allow Facebook to run schools is insane. They defraud their customers, lie to Congress, run secret propaganda campaigns- don’t let them run schools! That this even has to be said is ludicrous.
I’ve got two boys, one 19 and in college, and the other 14, just starting high school. No X-boxes for either one; the 19-year old didn’t get a Smartphone until high school, and my 14 year old didn’t get one until 8th grade. We’ve been fortunate; neither one seems particularly addicted; my younger son uses on-line games more to play with his friends after school. However, given the insane time-suck potential these devices have, I’ve already given them the “don’t give these to your own kids” lecture. Hard to imagine what’s going to be around the corner in 10-20 years, but the hypocrisy of Silicon Valley is breathtaking, but not surprising when it comes to tech products. They have no problem rotting the brains of other people’s children for the almighty dollar, but instead choose to keep them away from their own kids….smh
I think we’re seeing a double whammy right now, sad to say: a generation of students who, 1.) had smart phones from very young ages while 2.) being subjected to the bizarre testing madness of the “common core”. I’ve heard people blame the kids for their behavior but, you know, young children don’t buy phones. And, we know who created the Race to the Top. Adults get the blame.
I sincerely love all the posts today.
The tide is just beginning to turn. Zuckerberg’s “move fast and break things” motto is going to turn out to be, “move too fast and break everything, including your own company.”