Paul Krugman puts the matter directly: Donald Trump is an ignoramus. His ignorance is hopeless because he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. He likes to tell people that he is smart. Anyone who says that he is smart is insecure, not smart. His ignorance is dangerous to the economy and to our national security. When he was asked in an interview who influences him on foreign policy and defense, he said he watches television. That’s scary.
Krugman writes:
“Truly, Donald Trump knows nothing. He is more ignorant about policy than you can possibly imagine, even when you take into account the fact that he is more ignorant than you can possibly imagine. But his ignorance isn’t as unique as it may seem: In many ways, he’s just doing a clumsy job of channeling nonsense widely popular in his party, and to some extent in the chattering classes more generally.
“Last week the presumptive Republican presidential nominee — hard to believe, but there it is — finally revealed his plan to make America great again. Basically, it involves running the country like a failing casino: he could, he asserted, “make a deal” with creditors that would reduce the debt burden if his outlandish promises of economic growth don’t work out.
“The reaction from everyone who knows anything about finance or economics was a mix of amazed horror and horrified amazement. One does not casually suggest throwing away America’s carefully cultivated reputation as the world’s most scrupulous debtor — a reputation that dates all the way back to Alexander Hamilton.”
Let’s bring the discussion to education. Trump has said very little about education. I watched the debates and some of his many speeches. This is all I heard. He says he will get rid of the Common Core, but the fact is that there is not much the federal government can do to roll it back. It is out there, propped up by the SAT, the ACT, Pearson, and Gates. He says he loves charters. He says he believes in local control.
I don’t believe he knows what Common Core is. I don’t believe he knows what charters are. I don’t think anyone has explained to him what public education is. I don’t think he has said anything about higher education or how to relieve the crushing student debt. I don’t think he has spent ten minutes thinking about education. Nothing he has said would lead you to think he is informed about the issues that concern readers of this blog or me.
Most of what he says seems to be off the cuff, drawn from his personal experience or observations. I don’t believe he knows anyone who went to public school or anyone who had to borrow to pay for college. I can’t be sure but his total silence on these subjects makes me think he has no views because he has never met anyone who talked about these matters. Certainly they are not part of his own privileged upbringing.
I ask myself why so many people voted in the primaries for a man who is boastful, a man who makes our-in-the-sky promises, a man who ridicules his opponents, a man who accused Ted Cruz’s father of involvement in the JFK assassination because he read it in the National Enquirer, a man who wants to make the 2016 election a referendum on Bill Clinton’s infidelities.
Trump is vulgar, crude, and childish. I recall when Anderson Cooper asked in a forum why he posted an unflattering picture of Cruz’s wife on Twitter. Trump’s response? “He did it first!” Cooper, to his credit, said, “With all due respect, sir, that’s the kind of answer I would expect to hear from a five-year-old on the playground.”
Trump lacks dignity and gravitas. He is like a carnival barker, imploring voters to buy a ticket and go inside to see impossible, unbelievable, wonderful, horrible sights. And people vote for him.
Why?
I wonder if they vote for a charlatan for the same reason they rush to sign up for charter schools. I wonder why legislators continue to pour hundreds of millions into an industry that does not produce the results that were promised. The public, the media, and the legislators are easily hoodwinked. They want to believe. They swallow empty promises. Even when presented with evidence that charters are no better and often worse than public schools, even when they learn of scandals and frauds, they believe.
Why the gullibility? Why the willingness to play three-card monte with a card shark? Why are so many so willing to be duped by a con man? Is there something in our national character that sets us up to be duped by a snake oil salesman?
Gullibility. That is why a businessman who has declared bankruptcy four times, a man who insults and ridicules anyone who challenges him, a man who will descend into the gutter whenever he wishes, is soon to be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.
So many of us keep asking, “How can our fellow citizens vote for racism, xenophobia, and misogyny?” The answers are surely complex. As educators, I think we need to ask whether what, how and who we teach has contributed and what we can do. I say U.S. Schools Don’t Fail at Test Performance, They Fail at Citizenship Development. I explain here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-camins/us-schools-dont-fail-at-test-performance_b_8570608.html
Excellent article, Arthur. Could not be more in agreement with you. I have been writing for years about the demise of classes in Civics, and the need for one mandated course for every public school student in the US on what is required to be a citizen of the US.
What IS “required” to be a [good] citizen of the United States, Ellen?
I lost a lot of respect for Krugman this year. Not because he opposed Sanders, but because of his condescending tone in trashing policies that he himself has championed in the past. As he did so, he became an economic contortionist in justifying DLC-inspired, Republican-lite Clinton policies that he also had criticized sharply previously. Robert Reich, on the other hand, has remained consistent. And I don’t need Krugman’s critiques of Trump as an “ignoramus” to validate the obvious.
Bernie favors Common Core according to his campaign headquarters.
Hillary hasn’t said and is totally untrustworthy.
Trump is saying what people are thinking.
People like Trump because he is doing just that.
People are fed up with liars.
And cheats and those who are not accountable to anyone or think that they are above being accountable.
We might as well elect Mr. King.
And then crown him.
Krugman has created a cottage industry out of bashing progressives for policies that he himself has supported.
Lately, he has been bashing “Bernie and his Bros” (TM) for things like single payer, but this is actually just part of a long-standing pattern for Krugman.
As economist William Black said in Krugman’s Bashes Progressives for Criticizing Obama on Grounds that He Criticizes Obama
“One group of Americans is being bashed with no honest basis. The group constitutes among Obama’s most loyal supporters at the polls with very high turnout. The group has been bashed for decades by “new Democrats.” It has been recurrently bashed by Obama. It is now being bashed by Krugman. That group is progressives. The sad part of Krugman’s column is that the progressives were correct on each of the issues I’ve written about (which include all of Krugman’s points about banksters and the economy). Instead of praising them, Krugman joins Obama in bashing progressives for taking positions that Krugman admits are correct, indeed positions that he has supported in his writings.”
I don’t think it’s gullibility. I think it might be anger. This is definitely not rational and many who comment on why they support Trump admit all the things you listed. Yet they vote as they do. This phenomenon is not an ‘issue’ that can be reasoned through, it seems to me. It seems to be deeply emotional. Personal. A movement of like-minded people who believe if they blow things up, ‘it’ might get better. This disturbing and astonishing movement, if nothing else, reflects a deep, collective, resigned distrust in the efficacy of our system of self-governance. The risk these voters are willing to take suggests significant desperation. It’s almost like a revolution. I’m not sure all understand the stakes. I believe some do understand. I find the situation deeply disturbing. Not sure how to participate.
I think you are absolutely correct. This is distrust and desperation at it’s finest. At first I liked Trump, then I thought his antics would drive better people into the election process, and now I’m scared of him and of what will happen if he wins.
If we end up with Trump, Krugman can go look in the mirror and think about his trashing of Sanders (who polls better against Trump than Hillary).
“The Krugman Class”
“Chattering classes”
“Bernie Bros”
“Unwashed masses”
All of “those”
Can not ever
Equal me
Nobel-clever
As you see
I agree. For so many years, Krugman had been a hero and champion of sanity for me. But his vicious and wrongheaded attacks on Sanders have left me shellshocked and disillusioned. Krugman has been so right about so many things but he is completely wrong about Sanders.
Possibly he is so frightened of a Trump or GOP presidency that he has become an unapologetic propagandist for Hillary. Disclaimer: I will vote for Sanders but if he loses the primary, I will vote for Hillary in the general election since Trump is terrifying.
It’s pathetically obvious that Krugman is angling for a position as chief economic adviser to President Clinton.
At least he’d better hope it’s Clinton, cuz Bernie would now never even give him the time of day (and with good reason).
ha ha ha ha ha ha .
We need Krugman to write another article to follow up on the “gullible” claim. It has to do with what happens afterwards. Like it or not, we, as human beings, always take one side or another based on the information we are presented with. Some people, and I don’t think it’s the majority, will not commit to one side or another until they are satisfied that they’ve heard all the arguments. But most of us tend to believe what we hear first or what we want to hear. Sometimes, it may be because one side has almost complete control of the information that gets out to the public. But, it’s more likely that, once we take a side, we tend to stick to it no matter what. After all, if we admit that we’re wrong, our insecurities come into play, and we tend to support our original stance in order to not look foolish for jumping on the wrong bandwagon in the first place.
I live in Los Angeles, and the best example is what happened to former LAUSD board member, Tamar Galatzan. She proudly displayed her role in pushing for a 1 to 1 computer plan. She was even assigned to be on the technology committee, but she failed to attend even one meeting. That’s understandable since the committee, chaired by new board member, Monica Ratliff, uncovered the failures and weaknesses of the plan, culminating in Superintendent Deasy resigning which then lead to FBI and SEC inquiries. But, she never disavowed Deasy and her commitment to computer-lead education during the campaign. After all, someone might have pointed out her sudden reversal of loyalties if she had. The result???? She lost badly. Her loyalty to a failed policy and a failed superintendent cost her the election.
The lesson???? It’s better to admit you’re wrong than stick to your original conclusions that may have been based more on hype than on substance or you may wind up looking more foolish in the end. And, the longer you stick to your guns, the worse it gets and the harder it is to admit you’ve made a very bad mistake. No one likes to admit they fell for a snake oil salesman.
No one with a salary over l00,000 like Krugman understands the desperation of the working class, who’ve watched repubs and dems export jobs and destroy manufacturing.
suicide, child abuse, and drugs are some of the consequences. Clinton refuses to admit there’s anything wrong and she will lose these voters. Trump may well win them, b/c the dems are pushing the wrong candidate, too closely tied to the policies of the present.
I think you’re right. I don’t support Trump, but I can see why people do. Even though he’s lying through every bodily orifice possible, at least he speaks to people’s concerns and experiences. Hillary acts like poor and working class people don’t exist, or, if they do, their suffering is their own fault – if they just would have worked harder in school….
Thomas Frank, the author of What’s the Matter with Kansas, has written a new book called Listen Liberal. It explains how the elites of the Democrat party have moved the party away from middle class and labor concerns. The Democrats are also out of touch with the majority of Americans.
True too.
Some of the same criticisms of ignorance and policy naivete were leveled at Ronald Reagan when he first ran for president in 1976 against Gerald Ford. The voting public ignored the press & DC establishment consensus in 1980. We are still suffering under his retrograde, neoliberal influence today.
We can’t write off Trump simply on the basis of opinions by DC insiders.
Trump makes Reagan look like a statesman.
Reagan had class. He was a gentleman.he had manners.
You could hate his policies but you would never call him crude, crass, vulgar, nor did he ridicule his opponents.
Reagan was crass, just in a more cultured way. He rode to office on the mythical horse of “welfare queens”. He perfected the use of racist dog whistles. He joked about bombing Russia.
Again, I don’t support Trump, but in some ways I prefer his open crassness – at least we can all understand what he’s talking about without having to bother with that plausible deniability nonsense.
Jcgrim,
I frequently think the same thing.
Other analogues: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura. Non-statesmanship is almost an asset. Interesting piece in the current New York Review of Books that makes the case that Trump is almost-literally magic in people’s eyes. People want magic, not reality. For this reason I don’t think Clinton is a cinch.
Trump is perfect for America then, which has become crude, crass, vulgar, and ridicules those with whom they disagree.
This was written by Michael Lynch under the headline, “Trump, Truth and the Power of Contradictions”:
“So while he sometimes does massage his own statements — as he tried to do last month after his remarks on punishing women for getting abortions — Mr. Trump is most effective when he simply says the opposite of what he said before. In part, that’s because Mr. Trump’s contradictions are loud and confident. (“I love Hispanics!” he tweeted on Thursday, Cinco de Mayo, along with a picture of him with a taco bowl.) But it is also because when a person says something as well as its opposite, his listeners can infer that he really believes whichever statement they wish him to believe.
That contradictions are particularly useful to Mr. Trump also tells us something about what some people find appealing about him. Indeed, it reveals an even deeper contradiction. Mr. Trump’s explicit lack of authenticity is what makes him so authentic. He is like a walking oxymoron (which is perhaps not surprising, given that reality TV is the medium in which he has most flourished). To some, that he is contradicting himself so freely shows that he really doesn’t care what “they” (read: the news media, liberals, women, minorities) think. The signal this sends is one of strength: Only the strong can afford not to care.”
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He does not deserve to be President. He holds no values nor has any ideas beyond being important.
Trump is only doing what the vast majority of politicians do.
Trumps flip flops are just more obvious
Trump is the fish on the dock, while someone like Clinton is a beach shoe in the closet.
carolmalaysia: thanks for the info.
An outstanding contribution to an excellent thread.
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Yes, people can easily slip the uncomfortable yoke of Reason and dive into the warm pool of Irrationality. The ardently religious among us (there are many) have much practice at this. As do all the horoscope readers and woo-woo New Agers. The Enlightenment has not yet conquered this whole continent. Contradictions? Whatever. Trump is magic.
As far as I’m concerned both political Parties did it to themselves. They ARE out of touch. They DON’T have any connection with the people they’re supposed to be serving. They ARE overly influenced by wealthy campaign donors. There IS a revolving door in government. They DON’T do anything to benefit working people other than scold them in the most patronizing clueless manner possible.
They made fertile ground for this loud mouth dope to prosper because they ignored what is blatantly obvious to a huge group of people.
This.
Yep.
The real crime to me is what they’ve done to younger people. Everyone my age happily drew on the public investments of past generations and then when it came time to pay up and fund all those entities and programs for the generation coming up we..ran out of money!
It’s worse than that even- we saddled them with student loan debt. They start BEHIND.
It’s gross. We won’t even pay them for the work they do. There are all these ridiculous “internships” that are just cheap labor and temp jobs and the “gig economy”.
We’re funding their schools with donations like they’re beggars. “Help this teacher buy paper with a GoFundMe!” Just appalling behavior from my “cohort”.
“The Bill is back”
Drill baby drill
Frack baby frack
Bill baby Bill!
Back baby back!
Is this the Paul Krugman the consultant for Enron that should have gone to jail. I don’t always agree with Trump but Paul Krugman is the worst kind to stupid. What is Krugman’s claim to fame.
The Trump act rattles those claiming to be right (by who they define as wrong),
by projecting the “wrong” that made them “right” to start with.
He projects making ‘merica great by repeating colonialism (racism, xenophobia,)
This is a good one fromThomas friedman on Foreign Policy and the neutral:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/opinion/trumps-miss-universe-foreign-policy.html?emc=edit_th_20160511&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=50637717&_r=0
Trump’s Miss Universe Foreign Policy
O.K., it’s easy to pick on Donald Trump’s foreign policy. But just because he recently referred to the attack on the World Trade Center as happening on “7/11” — which is a convenience store — instead of 9/11, and just because he claimed that “I know Russia well” because he held a “major event in Russia two or three years ago — [the] Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event” — doesn’t make him unqualified.
I’m sure you can learn a lot schmoozing with Miss Argentina. You can also learn a lot eating at the International House of Pancakes. I never fully understood Arab politics until I ate hummus — or was it Hamas?
And, by the way, just because Trump’s big foreign policy speech was salted with falsehoods — like “ISIS is making millions and millions of dollars a week selling Libyan oil” — it doesn’t make him unqualified.
The New York Times Magazine just profiled one of the president’s deputy national security advisers, Ben Rhodes, reporting how he and his aides boasted of using social media, what the writer called a “largely manufactured” narrative, and a pliant press to, in essence, dupe the country into supporting the Iran nuclear deal. The Donald is not the only one given to knuckleheaded bluster and misrepresentation on foreign policy.
Life is imitating Twitter everywhere now.
Indeed, criticizing Trump for inconsistency when it comes to foreign policy is a bit rich when you consider that both Democrats and Republicans have treated Pakistan as an ally, knowing full well that its secret service has trucked with terrorists and coddled the Taliban — the people killing U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan; they’ve both treated Saudi Arabia as an ally because we needed its oil, knowing full well that its export of Salafist Islam has fueled jihadists; they both supported decapitating Libya and then not staying around to support a new security order, thus opening a gaping hole on the African coast for migrants to flow into Europe; they’ve both supported NATO expansion into Russia’s face and then wondered aloud why the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, is so truculent.
No, if I were critiquing Trump’s foreign policy views it would not be on inconsistency, hypocrisy or lying. It would be that he shows no sign of having asked the most important question: What are the real foreign policy challenges the next president will face? I don’t think he has a clue, because if he did, he wouldn’t want the job. This is one of the worst times to be conducting U.S. foreign policy.
Consider some of the questions that will greet the Oval Office’s next occupant. For starters, what does the new president do when the necessary is impossible but the impossible is necessary? Yes, we’ve proved in Iraq and Afghanistan that we don’t know how to do nation-building in other people’s countries. But just leaving Libya, Syria and parts of Iraq and Yemen ungoverned, and spewing out refugees, has led to a flood of migrants hitting Europe and stressing the cohesion of the European Union; that refugee flood could very well lead to Britain’s exit from the E.U.
Continue reading the main story
President Obama has been patting himself on the back a lot lately for not intervening in Syria. I truly sympathized with how hard that call was — until I heard the president and his aides boasting about how smart their decision was and how stupid all their critics are. The human and geopolitical spillover from Syria is not over. It’s destabilizing the E.U., Lebanon, Iraq, Kurdistan and Jordan. The choices are hellish. I would not want the responsibility for making them. But nobody has a monopoly on genius here, and neither Obama’s victory lap around this smoldering ruin nor Trump’s bombastic and simplistic solutions are pretty to watch.
And there are more of these stressors coming: Falling oil prices, climate change and population bombs are going to blow up more weak states, hemorrhaging refugees in all directions.
There’s also the question of what you should do about the networked nihilists? Ever since the rise of Osama bin Laden, super-empowered angry men have challenged us. But at least Bin Laden had an identifiable cause and set of demands: cleansing the Arabian Peninsula of Western influence. But now we are seeing a mutation. Can anyone tell me what the terrorists who killed all those people in Brussels, Paris or San Bernardino wanted? They didn’t even leave a note; their act was their note. These suicidal jihadist-nihilists are not trying to win; they just want to make us lose. That’s a tough foe. They can’t destroy us — now — but they will ratchet up the pain if they get the ammo. Curbing them while maintaining an open society, with personal privacy on your cellphone and the Internet, will be a challenge.
And then there are Russia and China. They’re back in the game of traditional sphere-of-influence geopolitics. But both Russia and China face huge economic strains that will tempt their leaders to distract attention at home with nationalist adventures abroad.
The days of clear-cut, satisfying victories overseas, like opening up China or tearing down the Berlin Wall, are over. U.S. foreign policy now is all about containing disorder and messes. It is the exact opposite of running a beauty pageant. There’s no winner, and each contestant is uglier than the last.
and don’t miss this by Lizzie:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump_us_56f021e0e4b03a640a6b1b33?ir=Politics%3Fncid%3Dnewsltushpmg00000003
The headline alone sent me scrambling for this:
Reminds me of Mexico saying no in 1846 to 30 million for northern Mexico, today known as Southwest U.S., and then the U.S. provokes a war to get land that didn’t belong to the U.S. Greta rhetoric and propaganda used to convince tax payers to pay for an unjust war.
This snake oil salesman is more extreme. The others have nicer masks and better trainers or handlers, but are also snake oil salesman and all of us know it. Neither Obama, Clinton, or Trump have served the marginalized middle class. Middle Class parents trust that education can secure a safe and strong future for their children and none of these candidates will protect public education.
Progress on social issues has been great but it is a colorful distraction so the people of OZ don’t pay attention to behind the curtain…the shrinking middle class, the vilification of teachers and education instead of small class sizes and necessary services. Push in computer company profits, on-line services that have growing yearly subscriptions, and cutting of budgets and the politicians and hedge-fund managers create a self-fulfilling prophesy that public school is to blame for all of society’s problems.
I don’t want Trump and maybe this is how Germans felt in Germany after WWI. Will he smash the system, fix the system, bring relief, or just end the tyranny of the political class that is only concerned with loyalty to the political machine not even the party or the constituents, who are after all the voting citizens of WE THE PEOPLE?
The politicians who are crying out don’t vote for Trump created the environment along with an irresponsible media in which a Trump can rise and look good to a disenfranchised people who aren’t truly given a distinct choice when it comes to elections. The political parties have different animal mascots but are very similar in their staunch protection of the political class over the REST OF US.
“Reality TV”
A colorful distraction
A dog and pony show
To mask dissatisfaction
Of everyone below
You are such a talented poet.
Nicely put, PeaceBeWithYou.
Trump and education in one sentence. Is it a joke?
He has such a dirty mind and he is so openly boastful about his immoral views (The Howard Stern Show.) that he would not be able even to get permission to be a volunteer in a classroom. His views on women are so horrible that for him all the human value a woman has is only her body which he gives 1 to 10 rating:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-said-a-lot-of-gross-things-about-women-on-howar?utm_term=.ai2RD6qdB2#.viZMl1N7bY
His racist views are scary. For example he selected White Nationalist Leader Johnson as a delegate in California who thinks that we need abolition of the 14th and 15th Amendments and the deportation of all nonwhites. allowing, for instance, that African Americans should receive “a rich dowry to enable them to prosper in their homeland.”
Johson runs a shown where Trump is being compared to King David.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california
And the best and the scariest is that he kept a book of Hitler’s book of speeches at his bedside for study for years altogether and was learning his way of winning the elections.
The idea was simple – say whatever angry people want you to say cultivating hate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8
“Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed … Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist,” Marie Brenner wrote..
“Hitler was one of history’s most prolific orators, building a genocidal Nazi regime with speeches that bewitched audiences.
“He learned how to become a charismatic speaker, and people, for whatever reason, became enamored with him,” Professor Bruce Loebs, who has taught a class called the Rhetoric of Hitler and Churchill for the past 46 years at Idaho State University, told Business Insider earlier this year.
“People were most willing to follow him, because he seemed to have the right answers in a time of enormous economic upheaval.”
Given all that and how Republican party is in total submission to Trump (I think he learned from Hitler how to hypnotize people) I am sure he will win over Clinton or Sanders.
This is really sad…
I do not think it is gullibility. Nor is there a real tangible national character that can be duped. It is simply an adherence to ideology. We want or some want life, finances, politics to go a certain way. We will ignore the fallacies, do what we know doesn’t work, simply because we wish it to be so. And someone, somewhere, within the group of policy makers and chatterers will make enormous profits. Ultimately, if there is anything akin to a national character that goes back to Hamilton is a believe in the power of the dollar.
I forget who said that the wealthy want it ‘ALL for themselves and nothing for EVERYBODY else’. Was it Adam Smith?
I know that Thomas Wolf listed GREED as th primal sin.
We are one of the most corrupt nations in the modern world, because the the real perpetrators have wealth beyond imagining – wealth that was once reserved for action -states.
There was not a shred of accountability for Libor or the banks and the people who took our national wealth and gambled, robbing our people of their homes, and in return getting bonuses that lead to this, (in today’s NY Times: http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/Hedge-Funds-Faced-Choppy-W-in-General_News-Banks_Hedge-Funds_Money_PACs-Political-Action-Committees-160510-964.html#comment596390
“Even as regulators push to rein in compensation at Wall Street banks, top hedge fund managers earn more than 50 times what the top executives at banks are paid.The 25 best-paid managers took home a collective $12.94 billion in income during a year of tremendous market volatility that was so bad for some Wall Street investors – a “hedge fund killing field.” A few hedge funds flamed out; others simply closed down. Some of the biggest names in the industry lost their investors billions of dollars. Yet for the biggest hedge fund managers, these men have more money and influence than ever before and do more business than many banks, including lending to low-income homeowners and small businesses. They lobby members of Congress. And they have put large sums of money behind presidential candidates, at times pumping tens of millions of dollars into super PACs.
And I have been saying forever, that with no accountability for human behavior, the worst corruption occurs. I saw it in NYC when grievance procedures were eradicated and this happened to me… and I have all the documents that prove it, as Randi herself knows, as she saw them through them through the UFT attorney Adam Ross: http://www.perdaily.com/2011/01/lausd-et-al-a-national-scandal-of-enormous-proportions-by-susan-lee-schwartz-part-1.html
And I have put this up here many times, because in the chart at the end is the reality:
“They want it all”
The wealthy want it all
A third or half won’t do
The wealthy want the Fall
And other seasons too
Exaclty..all for them and nothing for anybody and everybody else…a nd then they cry that th people are robbin them.
“They want it all”
The wealthy want it all
A third or half won’t do
The wealthy want the Fall
And other seasons too
The wealthy want the land
And want the seven seas
They even do demand
The flowers, birds and bees
The wealthy will not rest
Until the earth is theirs
And manage to bequest
The planet to their heirs
Some take the needlepoint expression, “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich?” to heart. They also think the corollary is true. Just because.
The question is whether “inequality” = “injustice”? And if so, what action does “injustice” call for? Take the wealth from the wealthy at the point of a gun? I mean by lawful taxation. Feel the Bern.
Isn’t this what liberals do? When faced with someone or something they disagree with, it’s dismissed as ignorant, stupid or unenlightened. I like Trump because I see many parallels between him and Theodore Roosevelt, and we desperately need a T.R in office.
And if you think Trump is the only vulgar, rude, crude, crass, etc. politician to run for president, you know nothing of history.
I fear you’re right. The more liberals insult Trump and try to make him look beyond the pale, the more people like him. The smug coastal elites may get their comeuppance this November. The flip side of PC is bigotry directed at the white working class –I detect it all the time here in the Bay Area.
I won’t disagree with “The Moustache of Understanding” on Trump, but we must remember, this is the mustache that justified the Iraq war, post facto.
He’s known as Operative K in business circles.
“When he was asked in an interview who influences him on foreign policy and defense, he said he watches television. That’s scary.”
And Hillary nods to Henry Kissinger.
Which one is really more scary? Unfortunately, Trump and Hillary are both insane and violent, though these traits manifest differently through them.
I am worried that Hillary is no less ignorant, and Hillary voters no less gullible.
Well, Ed, Hillary was Secretary of State. That beats learning from TV
I don’t know if it does, considering all the unnecessary death and destruction as well as economic waste that makes up Hillary’s resume.
I’m no fan of TV, but I could turn it on and learn that it’s a horrible idea to go around toppling governments and establishing volatile no-fly-zones. It seems Hillary hasn’t learned those things yet.
I think a Trump Administration would be a pretty bad thing, but I’ve been trying to think if it would really be worse than a Hillary Administration, and I’m not convinced. It is quite possible that more people will suffer under Hillary. I used to think Trump would be much worse, but I kept learning more and more about Hillary. She may not be ignorant of political technique, but she is quite ignorant of the common people and the value of life.
Excuse me? Are you unaware of what the term psychopath actually means. Yu and I and anyone and everyone does not exist for this man. There is only him, and the voice inches head. he cannot remember what he said yesterday, because his words emerge from the amygdala with no association within frontal cortex, even that region s contained some real knowledge of the reality.
If he thinks it he does it, and collateral damage be damned.
If he wants it he does it with no reflection on consequences.
he is the center of his universe, and he is a petty child underneath it all, out to prove that he is the best and EVERYONE ELSE is inferior.
What about the word INSANE, do you not get?
Nowhere did I say that Trump is a fine and sane man. But Hillary may be just as narcissistic and insane as Trump, if only more quiet about it. Hillary doesn’t care about you either, Susan. You do not exist to her, and only exist “for” her if you are helping her gain or retain power.
Yeah ,I know…she is callous.That’s how you feel, and y ou are entitled to your opinion, but if that is what you believe…But the facts are facts, sir…he is certifiable, and that is from many psychologist… unbalanced, a nut!
She may be wicked and selfish like so many of the politicians, but in the end, with that red button near her hand, I would trust her.
What part of ‘insane, do you not get?
Trump is unfit to be President.
The New York Times recently reported on Trump’s relationship with women. Here is an excerpt from the article:
Headline: Donald Trump has repeatedly unnerved women in private encounters over 40 years. Here are their stories.
Saturday, May 14, 2016 10:34 AM EDT
The New York Times interviewed dozens of women who had worked with or for Mr. Trump over the past four decades, in the worlds of real estate, modeling and pageants; women who had dated him or interacted with him socially; and women and men who had closely observed his conduct since his adolescence. In all, more than 50 interviews were conducted over the course of six weeks.
Their accounts — many relayed here in their own words — reveal unwelcome romantic advances, unending commentary on the female form, a shrewd reliance on ambitious women, and unsettling workplace conduct, according to the interviews, as well as court records and written recollections. The interactions occurred in his offices at Trump Tower, at his homes, at construction sites and backstage at beauty pageants. They appeared to be fleeting, unimportant moments to him, but they left lasting impressions on the women who experienced them.
The International Business Times reported this:
Headline: Obama: ‘Ignorance Is Not A Virtue’
The president took a swipe at presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump when delivering a commencement speech at Rutgers University Sunday. “It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not keeping it real or telling it like it is. That’s not challenging political correctness; that’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.”
“Trump says what people are thinking”. Is that a good thing? How can people think that racism, sexism, and alienation of our Muslim population (those most needed to help us fight Islamic extremists) are things that are good for our country?
I believe this hits the nail on the head. It is a partial quote written by Robert Kagan. The headline was “This is how fascism come to America”,Instead of an expression of liberty, the Trump phenomenon is a threat to it.
” But what Trump offers his followers are not economic remedies — his proposals change daily. What he offers is an attitude, an aura of crude strength and machismo, a boasting disrespect for the niceties of the democratic culture that he claims, and his followers believe, has produced national weakness and incompetence. His incoherent and contradictory utterances have one thing in common: They provoke and play on feelings of resentment and disdain, intermingled with bits of fear, hatred and anger. His public discourse consists of attacking or ridiculing a wide range of “others” — Muslims, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Mexicans, Europeans, Arabs, immigrants, refugees — whom he depicts either as threats or as objects of derision. His program, such as it is, consists chiefly of promises to get tough with foreigners and people of nonwhite complexion. He will deport them, bar them, get them to knuckle under, make them pay up or make them shut up…
What these people do not or will not see is that, once in power, Trump will owe them and their party nothing. He will have ridden to power despite the party, catapulted into the White House by a mass following devoted only to him.”
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As Obama said, Trump is not fit to be President.
But what if Obama is not fit to be president, does that invalidate his evaluation of Trump?
Harlan,
Compared to Trump, Obama looks like a man of great dignity and gravitas
Let Trump speak for himself.
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/05/16/3778568/trump-khan-feud/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tptop3&utm_term=1&utm_content=53&elqTrackId=39bc83ddb5254c5ca4f50ed3562cc498&elq=bbf163cc4d5649b9a085b2f5f815ca79&elqaid=30145&elqat=1&elqCampaignId=5641
Here are HIS very words, used by this man who would represent you and in the world– talking about the new Muslim London Mayor whom he ‘liked’, until the mayor criticized him. “Trump — who loves to dish out criticism but can’t seem to take it — rescinded his congratulations. The candidate, who has advocated for killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig blood http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/02/20/3751675/trump-torture-pig-blood/ stood by a blanket statement that “a lot of” the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims hate America,
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/10/3759027/trump-stands-by-islam-hates-us-comments/ and made up stories about British Muslims not reporting terrorists, says he’s upset that Khan has judged him prematurely.
“I think they were very rude statements and, frankly, tell him I will remember those statements. They are very nasty statements,” he said. “When he won I wished him well. Now, I don’t care about him.”
“in the same interview, Trump, who brags that he has the “best words” but according to linguists typically speaks with the grammar of an 11-year-old http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-s-grammar-is-typical-of-an-11-year-old-but-is-yours-any-better-take-our-quiz-a6939081.html insisted that he is “not stupid” and challenged Khan to an IQ test. But as Khan’s spokesman pointed out, an IQ test actually has little to do with the mayor’s accusations of ignorance.
Trump also warned that, if elected, he would be unlikely to have a good relationshipwith David Cameron, who, as the prime minister of the UK, leads one of the United States’ closest allies. Cameron has called Trump’s Muslim ban “divisive, stupid, and wrong.”
“Trump’s public, personal feud with Khan and Cameron is a troubling example of how the candidate might, if elected, interact with international politicians. International coverage of his candidacy has called him everything from “the American nightmare” to the “World’s Most Dangerous Man.”
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/04/29/3765582/donald-trump-world-media/
Though he has found some allies in Russia and Europe’s xenophobic far-right, most of the world is watching the American election in shock and bemusement.”
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-rest-of-the-world-is-laughing-at-the-gop-race/?nc=1
So, if Harlan compares him with the erudite law professor who did his best while a GOP congress did it’s worst to ensure that nothing he did worked FOR THE PEOPLE, than why bother to argue. People who are impervious to evidence are Trumps best supporters.
Yes, why bother to argue. Just endure when Trump is elected. He will beat whomever the Democrats put up, Hillary, Bernie, or Biden because of Obama.
J. H. Underhill
he certainly appeals to you… and here is why…form his mouth and what the world thinks
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-s-grammar-is-typical-of-an-11-year-old-but-is-yours-any-better-take-our-quiz-a6939081.html
http://www.lohud.com/search/patrick%20farm/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/28/donald-trump-wont-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-a/
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/04/29/3765582/donald-trump-world-media/
Experts, however, side with Sadiq Khan. Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook has said that the Muslim ban “bolsters ISIL’s narrative.” Economic Intelligence Unit, a British research organization, ranked a Trump presidency in its top 10 global risks for a number of reasons, including that his “militaristic tendencies” could be a recruiting tool for Jihadi groups.
And today on B*** O’R****** he even said he wouldn’t shrink from asking Congress for a declaration of war if that would help him do things to exterminate ISIS that he couldn’t do under present law.
His very existence I attribute to public school teachers who so ill educated the current generation that they fell for President Obama’s line, not once but twice.
It’s just karma, Susan. We must all man up and endure when our sins catch up with us.
Harlan, if you are speaking of Trump, he didn’t go to public school. He went to a military academy.
Military school. Huh. Figures.
I meant that the electorate did not see through Obama, and Trump’s popularity is a backlash to Obama’s policies, as damaging in every area as he has been for public education. Any one who voted for him twice is responsible for the Trump mobocracy, know-nothing movement in reaction to Obama. If public education is necessary for citizen education, it has done a dismal job of preparing the electorate that elected Bush, Obama, and whatever great beast of correction is now slouching toward Washington as things fall apart.
It’s going to be a tough year.
Harlan,
Civics has been neglected in past 15 years because of the obsessive focus on test scores in math and English. So has science, history, the arts, and everything else that is not tested. Unfortunately, some people in these fields want them tested too, because they think it is the only way to get them back into the curriculum. But there must be more time for learning, less time for testing.
I definitely agree with that, Diane, although what kind of civics may remain a problem.
J. H. Underhill
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Budowsky-Trump-The-GOP-s-by-Brent-Budowsky-Donald-Trump_Gop_Taxes_Women-160523-491.html
First PolitiFact, the respected and politically neutral fact-checking organization, named Donald Trump’s campaign statements in 2015 as the lie of the year.
Then leaders of the Republican establishment, desperate to stop Trump’s White House bid but unable to unite behind a credible candidate like Marco Rubio or John Kasich, pretended in large numbers to believe that Ted Cruz — a man they almost universally despise — should be the next president.
A long line of leading Republicans who now support the party’s presumptive nominee, including many who are running for the House and Senate in November, privately believe Trump will be a disaster as president and commander in chief but publicly claim they believe he’s the right man to have his finger on the nuclear button.
There are exceptions to this widening circle of GOP deceit. Former nominee Mitt Romney and Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse warn Republicans about Trump along with leading Republican columnists George Will, Michael Gerson and David Brooks and principled conservatives such as William Kristol and Erick Erickson.
It is hard to tell when Trump is lying and when he is merely ignorant. He will say and do anything to be elected. His core beliefs change almost every day.
Let’s take his statement that he wants to build a Berlin Wall-like construction on the Mexican border. It has been suggested, though not authoritatively, that Trump told The New York Times’s editorial board that he doesn’t really believe what he says about the wall. Every reporter who interviews Trump should ask him to authorize the Times to release the transcript.
Is Trump lying when he claims he will build the wall? Is he ignorant when he claims Mexico will pay for it?
My view is that Trump is incompetent by the standards of a president. Many Republicans agree — some publicly, many secretly.
Recently Trump stated that America does not have to pay its debts as scheduled and could simply “print more money.” If an American president ever said in office that the full faith and credit of the U.S. should be destroyed in this manner, it would trigger a global financial crash and meltdown. What do fiscally responsible Republicans who “support the nominee” think about this?
Why does Speaker Paul Ryan, formerly chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, think Trump keeps his tax returns hidden?
Trump said he would punish women for abortions. Then Trump said he would not punish women. Trump said he would cut taxes for the wealthy. Then Trump said he would raise taxes of the wealthy. He said he would order U.S. troops to commit war crimes. Then, perhaps, he would not. Trump would never cut Social Security benefits. But then he might. Trump will self-fund his campaign. Then he won’t.
What do Republicans who support the right of 9/11 victims to include Saudi Arabia in lawsuits think of Trump’s suggestion that Saudi Arabia should have nuclear bombs?
Do GOP candidates support Trump’s admiration of Russian strongman Vladimir Putin? Or when he favorably retweeted the words of Benito Mussolini? Or his view that NATO is obsolete? Or his hope to chat with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, whom Trump once praised for eliminating his rivals, before suggesting South Korea should have nuclear bombs? Or his charge that immigrants from Mexico are rapists and murderers? Or his denigration of women he disapproves of? Or his low esteem for American POWs because they were captured? Or his physically mocking disabled Americans?
It is astounding to watch leaders and candidates of the party of Lincoln and Reagan base a presidential campaign on a big lie, claiming a candidate they fear and hold in contempt is worthy of the presidency, suggesting he doesn’t really believe the things he says, secretly dreading the damage he will do to their party and to our nation.
He’s not your standard PC candidate, that’s for sure.
J. H. Underhill
He is an illiterate child, an adolescent who speaks without thinking, and THAT is a dangerous trait in a world leader.
He is a vile, self-absorbed charlatan who has robbed people who believed in him. He ruined Atlantic City, leasing his name and betraying anyone who invested with him.
But worse, he is a total psychopath, who does only what pleases his childish ego… he is very dangers.
Politically incorrect.? UH…stupid, nasty, ignorant and dangerous.
If not Trump, who then? Obama third term?
J. H. Underhill
Why would I even answer that?
Trump is a mix of Al Capone and Ravana(google it if you don’t know) aspiring to be Hitler. Also Trump recently promised to use nuclear weapons (scary scary scary).
I think the worst thing about Trump is that he has NO HEART. And for a person like this CRUELTY would be the most normal and ordinary thing to do.
Anybody would be better than Trump.
I personally like Hillary Clinton. I think she has very good qualities as a woman. She does have HEART. She is a mother and a grandmother. I admired her how she managed the problem with her husband during his presidency. She was understanding and forgiving. I think having a wife like this inspired the man (Bill Clinton) to introspect and improve. I believe Bill Clinton was never a bad person, you could see he is a nice person from inside, but he did mistakes because when he grew up the culture around him encouraged such type of behavior. But I think he realized that it was not good and he improved later on. On the other hand Trump absolutely has no right to criticize Bill Clinton because … because you can guess it… Guess what, Bill Clinton is a holy man compared to Trump…
I hope Hillary stands strong against Trump… Please support her.
I’ll refrain from commenting in depth about Hillary, as I’ve done that enough here. A little research will speak for itself.
Trump did not “promise” to use nuclear weapons. Please show source if it is true, but I’m pretty sure I know what you’re referring to and that’s not what he said. If he did say such a thing, we would never stop hearing about it from the mainstream media and social media. It hasn’t happened.
I dislike both Trump and Hillary, but let’s be honest please.
I encourage you to take a second look at Hillary wrt her heart. Google “What does it matter now?”
For example this:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/28/donald-trump-wont-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-a/
there are many more links if you google “trump nuclear weapons”
To “What does it matter now?”
Bengazi of course was bad, but goes pale with what Trump would do.
He already did so much that all candidates are running away and don’t want to take him on.
If Hillary can take him on than she is great for that only…
Yep, that’s what I recalled, and nope, Trump did not “promise” to use nuclear weapons. Read what he actually said:
“I don’t want to rule out anything,” Mr. Trump said on NBC’s “Today” program. “I will be the last to use nuclear weapons. It’s a horror to use nuclear weapons. The power of weaponry today is the single greatest problem that our world has, and it’s not global warming like our president said. It’s the power of weapons, in particular nuclear.
“I will be the last to use it. I will not be a happy trigger like some people might be. I will be the last,” he said. “But I will never, ever rule it out.”
He said that nuclear would be a last resort and that he “wouldn’t take it off the table.” Saying you WOULD possibly do something, under certain conditions, is not saying you WILL do something for certain. Even later when he says he would want to be “unpredictable” to ISIS, that is not “promising” to use nuclear weapons. What you said is extremely misleading and just not true.
Can’t believe I’ve gotten to the point where I have to fact check a criticism against Trump, but it’s better to criticize people fairly, even if they are narcissistic idiots who shouldn’t be president (which I also believe about Hillary.) By the way, I am not even defending what Trump said, I am telling you what he actually did say. Dare I say he would not still be in the race if he PROMISED to use nuclear weapons, even many of his own supporters in that case would start to think he was looney.
Today’s Washington Post had the following headline: “Donald Trump’s stance on guns in classrooms is yes, no and probably”.
Here is a partial quote from the article:
“I don’t want to have guns in classrooms. Although, in some cases, teachers should have guns in classrooms,” he said. Then he offered more mixed statements about teachers and guns and schools.
I’m not advocating guns in classrooms. … In some cases — and a lot of people have made this case — teachers should be able to have guns, trained teachers should be able to have guns in classrooms.
[At the NRA, Trump completes his rapid transformation into a pro-gun voice]
On Friday, Trump addressed the NRA’s annual meeting. During that speech, he vowed to eliminate gun-free zones — areas where guns cannot be legally carried by most individuals — in the United States. In January, Trump told supporters at a campaign rally that he would work to eliminate gun-free zones that cover schools and military bases in the country.”
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I can’t imagine how horrible life at school would be if teachers were allowed to carry guns. Children are curious, so even if a gun was hidden, it would be found.
How many children would get killed in a ‘shootout’ at the local school. Disgusting thought.
Gun free zones are soft targets.
You are really vile! Period
Thank you, Susan. I always enjoy getting your perspective. Now that the NRA has endorsed Trump, you have yet an additional reason to oppose him.