Blogger Steven Singer has noticed some worrisome product placement for charter schools on two Marvel Studios television programs.
Both are sci-fi fantasy shows.
Singer writes:
Marvel Studios is often concerned with escapism. But this season, two of its television shows – Marvel’s Agents of Shield and Daredevil – offered brief propaganda amid the comic book action.
Agents of Shield is a superhero/spy drama that connects the production company’s big budget blockbuster films – Iron Man, Thor, The Avengers, etc. It follows the escapades of a well-meaning intelligence agency made up of folks without super powers trying to deal with a world where super heroes are becoming more common.
This season on the ABC drama, one of the major arcs focused on Skye, a young woman just getting used to her super powers, and her quest to find her mother and father both of whom had abandoned her as a baby.
When she finally meets her dad, Cal, he is a mentally unbalanced enemy of Shield . However, as time goes on, Skye begins to see a nicer side to him.
In episode 2X18 “Frenemy of my Enemy,” the two spend the day together walking around Milwaukie and have a conversation about why she had been deserted as an infant. It was all rather interesting until they walked through a puddle of stinking corporate school reform.
The father tells the daughter that he had wanted to send her to a charter school (even before there was such a thing as a charter school!). Instead, she had to grow up in a foster home, an orphanage, and go to public school, poor thing!
In “Daredevil,” the characters speak of the teachers’ union as equivalent to the mob, an evil cartel. Not surprisingly, “Daredevil” is live streaming on Netflix, which is owned by Reed Hastings, the man who hates public schools and school boards and looks forward to the day when all schools are charter schools. In one of his tweets, Singer recites a few of the things that labor unions have done for working people: the eight-hour day, vacations,
Peter Greene read Singer’s blog and wrote a post about it called “Privatizer Product Placement.” He was outraged that the privatizers snuck their propaganda into an entertainment program.
He writes:
This sort of thing troubles me more than the umpty-gazillionth essay by a reformster that will be read by a small sampling of other reformsters. One of things we easily forget in these debates is that while we struggle and holler and dialogue and argue, most of the US population goes on about their business unaware that there’s any problem.
Product placement in mainstream media reaches those folks, and it reaches them in an uncritical, visceral way. It’s a basic rule of politics and marketing– repeat something over and over and over and over and over again, and people will start to assume that it’s just one of those things that everybody knows….
It is possible to push back, but it takes the same dogged repetition. Reformsters stopped saying that teachers wrote the Common Core because every single time they said it, someone was there to contradict them, to hold up the truth, to challenge them for the proof they didn’t have. And so they stopped saying it.
Pushing back and calling out– that’s how these battles are fought.
As Singer surmises, someone at Marvel may have been paid for a little product placement, may have been told these issues are on the corporate synergy list, or may simply be repeating something they heard. In any case, and in all cases where we find this sort of thing, the answer is to send letters, tweet, emails, whatever fits your resources.
Here’s the contact information for Marvel. Let them know. Pass the word. Speak up. Every repetition counts.

Marvel is on Netflix. And we know about Netflix.
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DC is better anyways. 😉
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DC made the decision to keep their TV and movie continuities separate, which is frustrating for Stephen Amell fans, but it does mean that the shows don’t revolve around events from the movies. Sorry, this is a little afield 🙂
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File under, charter chatter in the system.
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Yup… dc is better anyways agree with Ed Addective…
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House of Cards season 1 had a very unfavorable portrayal of teacher unions as well. This wasn’t in the British original. Interestingly, in that scene on Agents of Shield, Skye didn’t really know what a charter school was.
I think people want a name brand education, thinking of public schools as generic. Something special and exclusive for their kid – a magnet, charter, or private school – just not public.
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Thankfully there is TCM and other retro stations when it comes time for me to watch movies. Of late there have been few I would pay $10+ to see. But I’m troubled by Hollywood and their take on schools. If I’m not mistaken every single person connected to a film from the craft unions to the writer and directors have union representation. Now, I won’t complain about your extremely high salaries and bonuses and hourly wages; if you’ll allow me to earn 30-50k a year teaching 150 cherubs all they need to know to succeed in life without, sadly the majority of the time: parental and administrative support. Just asking.
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I witnessed an example of Charter School product placement in one or two shows of another TV series: Person of Interest.
I’m so mentally vomit sick of the hijacked RheeForm term Charter school that the mere mention of one in a brief line of dialogue grabs my attention like a nuclear bomb blast.
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As I tweeted (@cut_to-chase) during the recent Twitter storm, and as I posted in response to the bog post you quote: Marvel was purchased by Disney, and is wholly owned by Disney. The person we should be addressing (and/or looking into) is Bob Iger, Disney’s CEO. Marvel and Pixar may seem to be independent operations, but I’m betting Iger has the final say.
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Contact information for Bob Iger.
http://ceoemail.com/s.php?id=9857
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ABC is also Disney-owned
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It’s a shame…I’m a fan of both those shows, but both of those items really irritated me when I saw them–especially since they added nothing to the story! And before you jump on the DC bandwagon, remember they gave David Guggenheim permission to use Superman’s name in “Waiting for Superman”…
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I sent an email to Mr. Klein at Marvel to inform him that we will take action against his company through emails tweets and word of mouth. We cannot let this go unchallenged.
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I am the first to object when the media touts charter=better, but this attack on Marvel was a sledgehammer killing an ant. I think it reinforces the notion that teachers unions will hit hard if anyone criticizes the status quo. Not the message we public education advocates want to communicate.
The character was pointing out how power can corrupt. Yes, even among teachers. Which activists think the teachers unions are beyond the pale? There have been insidious product placements that were worth criticizing (the elaborate plot in HBO’s Togetherness is an example http://www.salon.com/2015/03/21/hipsters_for_charter_schools_the_big_lie_togetherness_tells_about_race_and_education/). But the hullabaloo over Marvel does not resonate with me.
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My thinking:
I don’t belong to a teacher’s union. I stopped paying dues when I retired from teaching in August of 2005, but I still condemn anyone in Hollywood who falls into line with the RheeFormers and Pearson and plugs the corporate education reform movement, vouchers, corporate Charters, high stakes tests, etc.
They are all fools, crooks or frauds.
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Karen, I agree with you here. As a detective of education and social justice, I am hypersensitive to “hidden” messages, so I see when something is really wrong.
You need to look within the context of the shows to see that this shouldn’t be a big deal. “Teachers Union” and “charter” were not real topics of conversation, or anything to do with the plots or sub-plots in these episodes. They were filler chat, briefly mentioned in passing. The characters were not bashing unions or public schools in general, it easily could have been references to individual events or one particular school.
The defensiveness over the word “charter” being used as a descriptor comes across as contrived. I see a lot of jumping to conclusions about the writer’s implications in using that word. Sometimes people describe things without having an agenda. Or — perhaps the writers really do believe charter schools are better. Maybe that’s the belief of the character in the show. After all, a lot of people do believe that. In any case, it wasn’t deliberated upon. It wasn’t sending a strong message about anything in particular. And, factually speaking, nowhere in the dialogue did anyone say charter schools are better by nature or teachers unions are corrupt by nature.
I highly doubt anyone watching these shows would think anything of those comments. But now, we have brought intense scrutiny to a few lines of casual conversation. This could make people think of us as over-reacting. If we get so mad about something like this, is all the other stuff we get mad about really worth being mad about? Talk about sending messages to the public.
On the other hand, maybe I am wrong in that this could be an opportunity to educate the public. Just be very careful to not become hugely emotional about something that really shouldn’t have come across as such an insult to all of us. And as always, analyze the situation for yourself if you’re going to make a fuss about it. Personally, I think Singer’s blog post is escalating a simple poke (at most) into a bar brawl.
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I’m a long time collector of comic books, and fan boy of the Marvel Universe: in print, movies, and TV.
The line in Agents of Shield was just a toss away, and I find it hard to believe it was placed there by intention. It reflected either the writer’ own beliefs, or as suggested above, the word charter was used to signify something extra, something with more status.
By itself it doesn’t bother me, but Peter’s comment about how these ideas and values are presented in many, many ways in the popular media – and how they become accepted as the way things are…that resonates.
Calling them out on it? Absolutely! A Twitterstorm of hellfire descending on Marvel? Maybe not so much.
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Thank you so much for mentioning my article on your blog, Diane. As Peter Greene said so well, these kinds of hidden messages and product placement are so insidious. If you add up all the anti-teacher and pro-privatization messages hidden in our mass media just this year, it’s quite a lot of propaganda. These things may look small on an individual basis, but when you add them up, they are one of the main obstacles to education equity. We can’t convince our lawmakers or the public to make positive changes in our school system, if they unconsciously believe this crap.
I feel hopeful though because so many people have supported my article and taken to twitter, facebook, email and the phones to let Marvel Studios know that we won’t stand for this. Teachers are not punching bags and charter schools are not something to praise. Daredevil Executive Producer Steven DeKnight and I had a long conversation on twitter about it. Though we didn’t agree, I hope he is now aware of the issue.
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Diane,
For the first time since I started reading your blog, I am disappointed that you supported an educational commenter. I usually agree with many of Steven Singers posts, but as someone who actually watched both shows that he was referring to, I felt that he was looking for a fight where a fight was not to be found. Here is the response I wrote him.
“Sorry Steve,
Regarding Marvel, think you are wrong about this one and the response was accurate. As fans of both shows, I noticed the inaccuracies about charter schools and teachers union. The charter school irked me but not too much because it was in line with the character who was misguided to begin with-the character was mentally unstable so the fact that he was advocating charter schools made me chuckle. Daredevil on the other hand was simply stating a truth-we can’t get rid of UNITY, and ask anyone who has been to a state RA about UNITY Gestapo-esque tactics. I am not under the illusion that our union is perfect, but it is the only one we have-basically a dictatorship dressed in democratic clothing. Hence all the more need for BAT.
Picking these fights, using the BAT banner (not sure if you represented yourself as a BAT or not) makes us look hypersensitive and weak in the eyes of corporate reformers who are starting to take notice.”
That being said I am not nieve to Marvel/Disney and their position on public education. In Ultimate Spiderman where they introduce a new Spiderman for a new generation of readers, we are introduced to Miles Morales, a boy who is Hispanic/Black and whose parents are extremely excited that their boy won a lottery to go to a Charter School in NYC. These corporations that monopolize the images and experiences of many of this nation’s children, will try to slip in their agenda.
As someone who loves comic books (to my wife’s dismay) and is exposing my own children to comic books, it is up to the parents to help students understand what they are seeing and how what is magical and enertaining also has deeper meaning that could alienate or exclude people that we would not want to hurt.
I grew up on the Disney experience. My parents would take us every year to Disney World to camp at Fort Wilderness for 2 weeks in February since 1976. Disney as a company has always had a dictatorial style of the image that they want to present to the world. They refer to every employer at every park and hotel as Cast Members, and they are all playing a part – which includes subscribing to the Disney philosophy of how you should look, act, talk, and believe if you choose to work for them.
On that note, I am still waiting for Disney’s first transgender princess cartoon movie. 😉
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Dan Leopold, there is an old saying that you can’t please all the people all the time. I think it is interesting that charters are getting product placement, though I doubt it will influence people much. Much scarier to me is the selling of the idea that teachers unions are evil, because the private sector has been ruthlessly stamping out all unions. Unions were responsible for the 8-hour day, paid vacations, pensions, decent working conditions, not just in schools but throughout the American workplace. Now that so many corporations have outsourced jobs to low-wage countries, you will notice that the never say, we left the U.S. because we didn’t want to pay American salaries, but they say they could not find skilled workers. Don’t believe it. Cutting costs is what they believe in.
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“Selling of the idea that unions are evil”. Last season, the writers for The Good Wife, penned an episode in which teachers, who wanted representation on a community board, were framed as if their motivations were similar to those of plutocrats, jockeying for positions that would personally enrich them by millions of dollars.
No surprise, Good Wife’s backdrop is Chicago.
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I noticed on the last two seasons of Law and Order: SVU – two jabs against DeBlasio by the cops. More distressingly, in a Lt. Barba-centric episode, he visits his mother, Mercedes Ruehl, who is working so hard running a charter school.
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I don’t really see these two references as “product placement,” in that they don’t seem to really be pushing (or even clearly endorsing) a specific product, in the same way that a Pepsi vending machine clearly in frame would. I mean, in SHIELD, Skye’s dad – who supports charters, it would seem – is also, clearly, a sociopath. Hardly a ringing endorsement. And in Daredevil, darn near everyone in any position of power in the borough of Hell’s Kitchen is corrupt. It’s not really a specific attack on teachers; it’s just a fact of life created to emphasize the bleakness of life in that universe. Making a big deal out of these two references just reeks to me of trying to pick an unnecessary fight.
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Reblogged this on David R. Taylor-Thoughts on Texas Education.
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This reminds me of The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt show on lazy, money-grubbing tenured teachers wanting to end up in rubber rooms rather than teach. When a myth is repeated over and over in popular entertainment, as Peter Greene notes, there is a more uncritical visceral reaction than if it’s in blogs or even talk shows. It’s a terrible shame, in particular, when well-respected, seemingly progressive, people like Tina Fey perpetuate these harmful tropes.
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A common link among teacher union-bashing scripts may be the influence of super agent, Ari Emanuel, brother of Rahm. Reportedly, Ari is the inspiration for Eli Gold in Good Wife.
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