TeachPlus is one of those Gates-funded teacher organizations that is supposed to provide a different perspective on teaching than the teachers’ unions. It can be counted on to advocate for the interests of new teachers who allegedly want merit pay, don’t care about job protections, and want to be judged by the test scores of their students. The teachers for whom it seems to speak are part of the New American Economy, where jobs are short-term, not seen as part of a career.
TeachPlus has just conducted a survey of teachers. Its first startling discovery is that “For the first time in almost a half-century, teachers with ten or fewer years experience comprise over 50% of the teaching force. We refer to these teachers as the New Majority.” This “new generation” of teachers–unlike, we may suppose, the older generation of veterans–have “high expectations for their students and a strong desire to build a profession based on high standards.”
The “new generation” wants student growth to be part of teacher evaluations (the veterans do not); the new generation wants students growth to count for at least 20 percent of their evaluation (the veterans do not); the new generation wants to change compensation and tenure so younger teachers (themselves) can get higher salaries (the veterans do not). The veterans want licensure tests to cover the skills needed in the classroom (the new generation does not).
Both generations agree they need more time to collaborate with their peers. Both agree on the importance of clear and measurable standards.
And here is the interesting part:
Both agree that current evaluations are not helpful in improving practice (what are current evaluation? Using test scores to measure teacher quality.)
Both agree that a longer school day would not be helpful “to support students more effectively.”
Both agree that increasing class size to pay some teachers more would be a mistake.
The takeaway: Teachers, young and old, agree and disagree on various “reform” proposals.
On two issues they are united: They do not see the value of a longer school day, and they do not want larger class sizes in exchange for higher pay.
But a matter that should concern us all: Current “reform” policies are driving experienced teachers out of the nation’s classrooms. This cannot be good for anyone. It is certainly not good for the young teachers, who need senior teachers to help them improve.
How can a profession become “great” by demoralizing and ousting those who know the most?
Who would go to a hospital in an emergency and insist on being treated by an intern, not a senior physician?
Who would want their legal affairs to be handled by a lawyer who just graduated law school if they could get a senior partner instead?
When will President Obama, Secretary Duncan, Bill Gates, Eli Broad, and all the other people driving current policy realize that they are inflicting harm on the nation’s education system?

Where does Gates come up with this crap?
And any “veteran” teacher that “agree[s] on the importance of clear and measurable standards is seeding the further destruction of their jobs. “Clear and measurable standards” in the realm of teaching and learning are a chimeras, duendes, falsehoods and/or idiocies that are totally invalid. Again see Noel Wilson’s “Educational Standards and the Problem of Error” found at:
http://epaa.asu.edu/ojs/article/view/577/700
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Isn’t it just that the collective cohort of CamelCaseCadre&Co.com don’t yet have enough experience with being conned to know when they’re being had?
Isn’t it just that veterans are marks who’ve been taken enough times to see an old line a mile away?
Isn’t it just?
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Notice the “Teacher’s Voice” on page 6 –
“Since California’s standardized test for fourth graders measured skills almost all my students needed, I analyzed its requirements, broke them down into core concepts, and then worked and reworked these concepts with the students.”
IN OTHER WORDS THE TEACHER TAUGHT TO THE TEST AND THE STUDENTS “succeeded”.
Testing is supposed to analyze how much a student knows, not drive how a teacher performs. Testing holds student’s accountable to learn wide ranges of knowledge that may be directly or indirectly available to them from their teacher, textbook, internet, etc…
Now testing drives everything and limits the broad spectrum of knowledge that students may or may not come in contact with. This is education perversion at its height.
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Come to think of it – this behavior by this particular teacher is actually unprofessional as teaching to the test INVALIDATES the test. The teacher is teaching to the test and not the curriculum.
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In many place the test is, unfortunately, the curriculum. Tony Bennett, the Superintendent of Public Instruction for the state of Indiana (just until November 6th, I hope) had this to say on the state DOE web site.
“As long as the tests actually test the skills and content we want students to learn and know, “teaching to the test” should not be considered taboo. In fact, we should encourage teachers to help students learn the content we believe will be fundamental to success in life.”
Have you ever seen a standardized test that covered all the skills and content students need to learn and know? How insane is it that the state DOE doesn’t understand basic tests and measurements!?
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Can you please provide a link for this. I could use it. Thanks.
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Replied with the link, but links get moderated…at least mine did. It will show up eventually.
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Ewww….I hate to give them any publicity…but ok, here it is.
http://www.doe.in.gov/achievement/assessment/truth-about-testing
If you’re interested…here’s my response —
http://bloom-at.blogspot.com/2012/10/not-everything-that-can-be-counted.html
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You hit the nail on the head with the “Ewww” part.
Teacher effectiveness is now determined as how well you can get kids to grow and/or pass a stupid test.
If you bring in the high test scores and higher growth outcomes, principals love you, and will surely transmit such a biased point of view while observing teachers in classrooms.
Now teacher evaluation is even more bogus than it was when we began this mess.
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Here in Connecticut, “DINO Dan Malloy”, our illustrious governor, has told us he approves of teaching to the test as long as it brings up test scores. I am not optomistic about having him around two more years!
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Where can we find a list of all the organizations, think tanks, research fronts and anything I left out that is funded by Gates and therefore, supports his views on the destruction of our public schools?
That would be helpful when others try to tout, “Well, the research shows blah, blah, blah.”
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I think it is disingenuous to compare the experienced versus inexperienced issue to the medical and legal field. This is primarily because the pay scale and promotional ladder in those industries is radically difficult from the education industry. Whereas teachers are currently paid according to seniority and advanced degrees/credits alone, these other fields often promote and give raises based on performance. A young brilliant lawyer can advance to partner before a less effective lawyer. As a young, new teacher, I can tell you that one of the greatest disincentives to staying in teaching is the lack of career advancement opportunities and lack of appreciation of my work via raises and bonuses. This could be one reason 50% or more of TFAers leave after their commitment.
We should avoid education reform fads, but should also be aware of the very real faults in the system.
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You take the intern, I’ll take the senior physician.
Good luck!
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“As a young, new teacher, I can tell you that one of the greatest disincentives to staying in teaching is … and lack of appreciation of my work via raises and bonuses.”
Darlin’, if you’re in teaching for raises and bonuses, you’re in the wrong field. And, what exactly are you saying – that you’ll teacher harder or better if only you’re given raises and bonuses? Again, wrong field.
Oh, and BTW, few “young, brilliant lawyers” make partner. Unless they start their own firm, lawyers are generally associates for at least 7 or 8 years (typically in their early to mid-thirties) because that’s how long it takes to learn the business well enough to operate independently.
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@New Educator in NYC “As a young, new teacher, I can tell you that one of the greatest disincentives to staying in teaching is the lack of career advancement opportunities…This could be one reason 50% or more of TFAers leave after their commitment.”
If you are a new teacher, you have a great incentive to at least stay in education and advance your career – become an administrator.
They rarely hire qualified veteran teachers for this job because they might do something right.
TFA’ers leave because they many of them served an an intern teacher to pad their resume for the bigger and brighter road ahead.
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No, the reason that the TFAers leave after their commitment is because they rarely see it as a profession, but a resume builder. And five weeks of training doesn’t give anyone enough information to actually succeed in the classroom.
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Dienne and Diane-
Then following your logic, if teaching is comparable to medical or legal fields, shouldn’t I be able to teach for 8 years and then go out and open my own school?
New Educator in NYC makes a very valid point, and rather than address that point, you use this as an opportunity to “go negative” and belittle him/her with phrases like “darlin’.” Bonuses and raises are a way of acknowledging that you are doing a “good job.” While I’m sure the New Educator measures his success by the influence he/she has on students, no one in their right mind can disagree that it is nice to be acknowledged by your peers and supervisors. The current pay structure and advancement ladders in education provide little formal recognition to teachers by their peers (besides the ole’ slap on the back, darlin’).
This blog and its “loyal commentors” have become obsessed with focusing on the negative, and only the “positive” in terms of how it affects the negative (i.e. celebrating parents and teachers that fight the “deformers.”) Why can’t you share any positive news? Let’s talk about advancements in traditional pedagogy, school districts that produce good test scores AND successful students, and where you want education to go, not just where you want it not to.
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The obsession with testing and data have gotten out of control. They are detached from any genuine commitment to good education. Saying so is not negative. Trying to save children from mechanical, computer driven education is very positive. Join us.
And by the way, merit pay does not work. It’s been tried repeatedly and failed every time.
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About merit pay and its not working, I do not know the research but am curious. How was “merit” construed? And was it unsuccessful because of how success was measured (a more triangulated system might yield better results?) or because there is something inherently wrong with a merit system with respect to teachers/education? In the example of 25+ year veteran teacher shares, I would think she could still be encouraged to share, but also get some acknowledgement for that? I would be curious what the criteria was for a good teacher in these experiments if anyone can share.
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Robin, PfP has been tried over and over again with many different designs.
Teachers don’t want lots of money. Those who say they do are in the wrong profession.
There are loads of studies showing that PfP doesn’t work, but it doesn’t take research to figure out whether it would or would not work. It just takes logic.
Education is people-oriented and hinges on qualitative processing. Trying to put a monetary value on how we treat students, and how much their test scores go up, does not produce a collaborative environment. Teachers are in this thing together, and when you start differentiating pay, it rips people apart. Why would I want to help other teachers when I know that it could hurt my paycheck?
In PfP, the same, general scheme occurs – normally based on test scores. Teachers get paid more for higher test scores which kills collaboration. It’s that simple, and it does not work for kids.
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Thanks, Diane. This is helpful.
I add, how many teachers out there have worked under and administrator that they would trust with implementing such a policy? That is where I think some serious obstacles would surface.
One of the biggest concerns I have with education now in my community is how much unchecked power administrators have. They can move teachers around at will, give bogus reasons for it, ignore school board policy, and are still supported by central office. That is a scary situation.
Many in my community are ready to elect new board members, who also support unchecked principal power, but it will be a year before any of the members are up for re-election, and will take several before a majority can be elected. And if things are as this blog indicates, it may be hard to get a good candidate elected. I have thought of running but wonder if it is a losing battle and my energies would be more effectively utilized elsewhere?
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Who the heck wants “career advancement” in teaching anyway? I wanted to be in a classroom teaching my subject, and that is where I would like to stay. Although some teachers like growing into administrative posiitons, I wouldn’t touch an administrative job with a ten foot pole! Maybe I am just lazy and unambitious.
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There are several problems with this report… first and foremost, the reason for the decline in older teachers isn’t that lots of older teachers quit in despair, many of us reached retirement age and in many (if not MOST) state retirement systems there is no incentive to work more than 30 years…. Secondly, for the past few years many school systems negotiated dual pay-schedules whereby new hires got paid on a newer (and lower paying) scales. The elders, many of whom have since retired, were in the majority when the votes took place. In cases where these kinds of dual pay scales were negotiated both sides (union and management) acknowledged that one of the unintended consequences might be disaffection of those yet to be hired… I think that needs to be considered in looking at this data… Thirdly, the report glosses over the report that the majority of teachers still want to hold onto retirement in lieu of higher pay…
I am NO PROPONENT of linking compensation to test scores… nor am I a proponent of the continuation of the unitary salary schedule as it exists today… but the questionnaire seems to presume that the only way to break out of the traditional step-and-track system of compensation is to move to one that links pay to test scores. This is a false dichotomy and counterproductive to the debate around how teachers should be compensated. It seems to me that schools should look to universities for guidance on compensation instead of the medical field or the private sector…. but I know of only one system that pays people for turning out quality piece work— and that’s the factory! We need to abandon any compensation system that treats students like products.
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I continue to be offended by the implication of these “studies” (I use the term loosely). I think it’s outrageous to imply that more veteran teachers (this is my 12th year, so I don’t know if I’m a veteran yet) do not have high expectations and are only in teaching for the paycheck. I work hundreds of unpaid hours a year. My debaters are hosting a candidate debate tonight, so here I go back to school for several more hours. I have very high expectations of my students. But I would like to get paid a decent wage and I DO NOT teach to any test, nor will I ever. And I will be penalized for that.
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Not sure if anyone let this link about the survey. In reaction to the survey – I can smell the competition between teachers that will follow merit pay, bonuses, etc. All of the ‘learning community’ work that has opened doors will be undone. I’m a new teacher too; this is not teaching, this is turning education into business.
http://www.shankerblog.org/?p=7056#more-7056
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As a retired public school educator of 15 years, I am truly “shocked, dismayed, and appalled”: How can it be that any new teacher in today’s toxic society would not embrace teaching just because the profession is so noble and respected. One must prepare oneself to the point foresaking one’s efficacy and integrity in a willful desire to starve, blame, and face daily self-inflicted contrition/self-flagellation from the Great Philanthropic Foundations of the Day, even to the point of death . . . ” oh, come thy sting of satire, where for art thou, Candide?
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I work in a department of three. I go home and develop new materials over the weekend. On Monday I go to school and show it to my fellow teachers. We work on it and implement it. In a merit pay system, I would be forced to hoard these documents and use them myself to impress my administrator. How will this new system be best for the students? Or would it be about the teacher then and not the students?
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To echo the comment from “Stop the Hate”, why can’t we focus on more of the positive aspects instead of the problems? I believe that there are good teachers and effective pedagogies. I just don’t understand how the best practices don’t spread.
TO: “25+ year veteran teacher” – can you share how your team FROM: “8+ year teacher rookie teacher”
RE: Please share how you and your fellow teachers successfully develop and share your materials.
Thanks!
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“Best practices” don’t “spread”, because there is no one way that works. Education is NOT, I repeat, NOT some business that you can find something that works and repeat it.
Teaching is an ART, not labor. There is very little that is repetitious. A lesson plan may work one year or semester, only not to work the next semester or year.
What your asking, in a sense, is why can’t all painters be extraordinary? Teaching is like painting – sometimes great works are produced, sometimes not. What one teacher does may or may not work for another, in much the same sense that what one painter does may or may not work for another.
The problem in education is that we have too many armchair educators that think they know everything because they attended school. They have no idea what it takes to deal with 100 17 and 18 year old kids day in and day out.
It’s too bad not everybody is forced to paint – then maybe we would have a zillion armchair painters.
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ME,
I agree that classrooms and teachers are unique situations and educational reform research confirms that it is challenging to transfer successful techniques between schools (and even between teachers). I also agree that teaching is more “art than science”. I think a better artistic example is a chef, rather than an artist. The success of an artist is his/her creativity and uniqueness. Chefs, on the other hand, are taught basic techniques and extend them with their own individuality. I don’t accept that education is completely art.
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To echo the comment from “Stop the Hate”, why can’t we focus on more of the positive aspects instead of just the problems? I believe that there are good teachers and effective pedagogies. I just don’t understand why and how the best practices don’t spread.
TO: “25+ year veteran teacher”
FROM: “8+ year teacher rookie teacher”
RE: Please share how you and your fellow teachers successfully develop and share your materials.
Thanks!
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I will take the veteran any day to the rookie. It takes at least five years to hone your classroom management skills and learn the curriculum. If anyone thinks it takes less than that, you’re either uninformed or lying to yourself. There is no way that someone who teaches for two years is better than someone who has done it for 12, 14, or 18 years.
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I am so glad I am retired from teaching. I miss the kids, I miss the teaching, but all the other stuff, I do not.
I wonder, I always taught in a small school district, if I was in competition with other teachers, there would never be help by other teachers in discipline, anything such as dances, parades, any after school activities.
Any new teacher is literally lost their first year and if I was a veteran, I would make sure and screw them over. They would be so messed up their first year, their would never be a second year for them. If that’s what they want is competition, it is going to get ugly.
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