John Thompson, a teacher and historian, has watched the heated debate about standardized testing, with some claiming high-stakes testing protects Black and Hispanic children, and others saying it harms these very children. He weighs in with a thoughtful column.
Thompson says that the Obama administration education policy boils down to a simple formula: “test, sort, and punish…Some students may benefit but only at the cost of inflicting harm on other children.”
He writes:
Its ironic that the market-driven movement – that still pretends it is a civil rights movement – is going out with such an ignominious whimper. Output-driven reform not only damaged poor children of color by treating them as test scores, it has undermined liberals and Democrats who seek a larger agenda of equity and justice. So, a crucial short term battle is the civil war between progressives, with teachers determined to prevent Hillary Clinton (or anyone else) from repeating Arne Duncan’s agenda….
He notes that leaders of national civil rights groups have rejected the Senate “Every Child Achieves Act,” thinking that it will lessen the heavy emphasis on testing.
That raises the question of why an unwavering commitment to punitive, bubble-in testing is still thought – by some – to be a civil rights value. Why do these civil rights leaders believe they can promote justice by continuing to attack some of their most loyal, long term allies in the battles for equality and fairness?
It is the leaders of the civil rights groups who promoted NCLB who still support its high stakes testing. Another 38 civil rights groups have joined 175 organizations in opposing high stakes tests…
I sure don’t see support for No Child Left Untested by rank-in-file civil rights supporters. I see black, brown, and white parents recoiling from the way that bubble-in malpractice has robbed their children of respectful and engaging instruction. I see persons of all races torn between our original support for the ultimate goals of the Duncan administration and our sadness regarding the disappointing and destructive outcomes of the Obama administration’s policies. I sure haven’t met black, brown and white persons committed to civil rights who still believe high stakes standardized testing can enhance equity.
But, then again, in my tens of thousands of interactions with stakeholders, I have almost never met a person who wasn’t quickly disillusioned by NCLB testing. The only people who still seem to support stakes attached to its testing are politicos who are personally invested in the law they promoted.
The continued assault on teachers and unions by the Obama administration will not lead to better schools. Thompson no longer believes that Arne Duncan and his few remaining allies “are just fighting for poor children of color. Their obsessive support for reward and punish seems to also be due to a desire to exact a pound of flesh from educators for opposing their punitive approach to school reform.”

Arne Duncan is a heroic champion, standing valiantly before the rising tide like King Canute…or perhaps more like George Wallace.
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Excellent article, but I would add that too many university researchers seem to be in lock step with these test and punish policies – at least based on the new teachers I see in the schools and articles coming from universities.
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Perhaps the researchers at some universities have been paid to present the corporate message. With money many things are possible. Just ask “El Chapa.”
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Actually several of my friends are academics and some are education professors. The general consensus among them is that the reforms are restrictive and detrimental. They predict the light will go out of it like a falling star. While there have been efforts by Pearson to alter teaching programs many of them have resisted it. Most teachers I know do not support the reforms , however the younger teachers with less teaching and or life experience are more likely to yield to them .
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Perhaps their consensus is a bit naive. When we see massive waste and fraud being ignored by government, we have a big problem. Maybe some university types don’t understand the huge tentacles of billionaires and corporations that want to consume the billions of taxpayers’ dollars in public education. Without strong support from the public, these misguided charters will continue to waste and defraud, and our only weapon currently is opt-out. We need greater resistance like in the civil rights era including demonstrations and marches.
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Arnie Duncan combines two opposites. He has the “win it all” philosophy of a basketball coach combined with the clueless belief in the “Lake Wobegon effect”, a place where all children can be above average. No one expects a school to play everyone on its varsity squad. My son coaches HS & club basketball and I used to cringe when he talked about cutting players, but that’s competitive sports. On the other hand, he usually coaches JV, so he constantly loses good players to varsity and gets the players cut from varsity. Imagine if he had to be judged by a VAM. One thing I am especially proud of is the fact my son has always tutored some of his players to make sure they stay eligible.
I have seen some who comment here ask for alternative solutions. I can tell you what works in one word, eligibility. Fill a school with enriching activities (with more staff, don’t expect overworked teachers to take on more duties). Then use eligibility to motivate students to do their best in their academic subjects.
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As someone who advocates for ELL students and parents I’m certain the reforms are both hurting and causing them to feel even more inferior. I suspect, actually I know the leaders of these Civil Rights groups are highly educated individuals who have manipulated the parents and children they are supposed to serve. Their ideology and the complex reality of the situation are not aligned. They have lost control of the reforms to a small circle of Ivy League academics and Tech Moguls. Rather than admitting this they insist on saving face and pushing forth an agenda many of them know is riddled with flaws and does not meet the developmental needs of those they wish to rescue. We need more humility in this situation. We need someone to come forward to say, “Perhaps we got it all wrong. Let us try again.”
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I repeat, “With money many things are possible.” Up becomes down, and failure becomes the New Orleans “miracle.” Many civil rights groups have become infected with greed just like our politicians. The ELLs are collateral damage along with the other poor, minority students.
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Regardless of how one views abstract notions (and their accompanying lofty aspirational goals) about the efficacy, usefulness and accuracy of standardized tests, the simple fact is that on the ground, in practice, the toxic effects of the labeling, sorting and ranking of students and teachers by the scores generated by standardized tests were established very early on in NCLB. Nothing has changed with the various and sundry reiterations of same under different political colorations.
I urge everyone that supports a “better education for all” to purchase a slim paperback (so it’s inexpensive and not a lengthy read) called MANY CHILDREN LEFT BEHIND: HOW THE NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND ACT IS DAMAGING OUR CHILDREN AND OUR SCHOOLS (2004, Deborah Meier and George Woods, eds., with contributions by same as well as by Theodore R. Sizer, Linda Darling-Hammond, Stan Karp, Alfie Kohn, and Monty Neill).
It is startlingly—and painfully and frighteningly—often so current in its succinct but cogent observations that some might feel inclined to double-check the date of publication to make sure it really came out in 2004.
The testing regimen of measure-to-punish is rheephorm failure writ large—over and over again. A critical reminder: the heavyweight rheephormistas mandate and ensure the sort of genuine learning and teaching environments for THEIR OWN CHILDREN that they withhold from and deny to OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN.
That’s the way I see it…
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I think you might be the only one left on this blog who isn’t some kind of concern troll, KrazyTA. After all this verbiage, how do they come out supporting “grade span testing” and pushing for new areas of data-accumulation for unexplored and sickening outcome-based measurement mandates?
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chemtchr,
I’m not sure what you mean by “concern troll”. Can you please explain.
TIA,
Duane
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A concern troll visits sites of an opposing ideology and offers advice on how they could “improve” things, either in their tactical use of rhetoric, site rules, or with more philosophical consistency. The “improvements” are generally to be less effective.
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chemtchr: with the 2016 presidential election already in full swing and folks on this blog taking positions on which candidates are better or worse, greater or lesser evils, and as someone on a thread once put it—the more effective of two (or more) evils—
I am guaranteed to pretty much anger just about everybody on this blog at some time or another.
However, just as a personal choice, I try to focus on one thing only: raise a ruckus. Keep raising a ruckus. In my own way, and on the points I consider most important, hold absolutely everyone’s feet to the fire. Argue for, argue against, take no position on, parties and candidates—but let this blog be the place where folks can honestly and sharply and civilly, argue with facts and logic and heartfelt concern.
So far the owner of this blog has encouraged and allowed that, and I thank her from the bottom of my heart.
Turning up the heat? I don’t exclude myself. I don’t think I have ever stated it on this blog quite this way before, but as a supporter of public education and public schools and a “better education for all” I have—and have had all my adult life—severe criticisms of same.
I am not a rheephormista. I loathe their double think and double talk and double standards. So I feel obligated to write, as I did just two days ago on a thread on this blog, of how the public HS I worked at massaged and tortured numbers & stats in order to, quite frankly, lie about and sell the school as a place that was a lot safer than it really was. I consider that to have been just as morally bankrupt and wrong as what the current crop of self-styled “education reformers” do.
And I have met, in person and suffered under, the ideological forefathers and foremothers of the current crowd of edubullies and edufrauds. In practice they’re nothing more or less than the American version of the most wretched apparatchiks of the now-vanished Soviet Union. Here, there, everywhere, denounce and expose them one and all. Play no favorites.
I don’t ask or expect anyone else to follow my personal example. Each person needs to follow the path they feel is best. But I can say, at least for now, that although I find myself disagreeing on various points with the owner of this blog, and the majority of regular commenters on its threads, I respect y’all.
Agree where we can. Disagree where we must. But leave the sneer, jeer and smear to the rheephormsters. That’s all they’re good at.
But, if I may deliver myself of what seems like a maudlin sentiment, I think that those of us for a “better education for all” are, well…
Better than that. Because ends and means are intimately connected, and we’re not getting “there” from “here” by imitating the rheephormistas. Their practice is not toxic because the implementation of rheephorm is botched, but rather because their entire approach is pernicious.
Please excuse the longwinded response to your comments.
Just my dos centavitos worth.
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The weapons of choice in educational reform are scores on standardized tests and melodrama about an achievement gap. That “achievement gap” is almost exclusively based on subjects for which there are standardized tests. Improving those test scores is now treated as the all-in-all of all education that matters. The test-score gap is easily portrayed as if “the civil rights issue” of our time.
This is a lazy and a convenient way to shape public opinion and educational policy. Reify scores on standardized tests as the measure of greatest significance in education, then conjure policies to raise the scores and claim those policies are addressing “the civil rights issue of our time.” No real sacrifice, no marching, no sitting in, no fire hoses, no dogs in attack mode, no lives lost for a cause, no legal ingenuity and persistence required.
This is an example of civil rights advocacy LITE. It is sad. It is voiced by President Obama, his wife, and Arne Duncan, Secretary of Education. This rhetoric has the effect of diminishing the legacy of the Civil Rights Movement, truncating the whole concept of excellence in education, and cutting off discussion of really significant inequities in this society. The narrow focus on test scores—as if they matter most as indicators of the unfinished work on civil rights–is a distraction from the conditions aptly named “savage inequities” by Jonathan Kozol.
Aggrandizing tests and test scores as if these have some key role in addressing “the civil rights issue of our time”— is wrong. It is a suppresses attention to real and important issues like current efforts to limit access to voting. It is a distraction from all of the real-estate and banking practices that have created pockets of poverty and engulfed so many families, children, and schools in communities planned to maintain segregation.
Aggrandizing the importance of scores on standardized tests as if these are the most significant indicators of the excellence of education, and a measure of out nation’s commitment to equity is a pathetically expedient rhetorical gesture.
It is so expedient Obama and others have used exactly the same phrase to claim that “immigration is the civil rights issue of our time.” Regrettably, the phrase is functioning in about the same capacity as any political branding tool. Look for it to appear again and again as the campaign season heats up.
See, for example.
http://www.eldiariony.com/obama-sees-immigration-as-a-modern-day-civil-rights-issue
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Very insightful comments, Laura. You have to hand it to the reformers for using provocative phrases to forward their brand of poison pill. They are masterful messengers, and they have the means to blast it out to the public repeatedly.
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You are right on target John. And simply diminishing the number of tests does nothing to eliminate their power to destroy. The solution:
A viable alternative to the test putting whole child assessment in the forefront.
Allow the ability to innovate, meaning finding the best way for children to learn
Systemic change that eliminates the current system of failure allowing students to move forward from where they are on their pathway to success
A support system for teachers that includes class size and planning time that allows teachers to the ability to serve all children.
And to allow teachers to take back their profession!
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Cap, of course you would support “whole child accountability”.
We have vendors out here who are already “assessing the whole child” with Orwellian programmed oversight of their keystrokes and facial movements. They are forcing this treatment on districts taken over by public private turnaround partners, very much against the will of disenfranchised communities and whole cities of color. They distribute public funds to for-profit providers of a twisted corporate version of wraparound, grit-enhancing social services.
All these “outcome based” mandates are assault on children under color of authority. You’re making my skin crawl with your disingenuous boosterism.
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Where did you make up that junk try this http://savingstudents-caplee.blogspot.com/2013/12/accountability-with-honor-and-yes-we.html
Whole child is like a science fair or project duh! Quit making up outrageous stories just so you can pretend I stand for something I don’t
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Chem: If you don’t have an argument just say so. Don’t make up something to argue about. You can’t think of a Chemistry project that can be assessed? Pity!
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John Thompson:
Did you write that headline, or did Diane Ravitch?
“John Thompson: Why Does Anyone Still Support Annual Standardized Testing?”
I genuinely didn’t see you arguing for ANY standardized testing. Your position seems very clear. Did Diane add the word “annual” to camouflage her own continued clinging to the NCLB accountability regime?
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From the linked article’s comments:
“Mr. Thompson, I am a parent and a big fan of VAMs to ensure we hold our districts accountable for their instruction. I am not a “politico”. I’ll be happy to explain the models for you if you like. I’ll also be happy to explain how principal observations align with VAMs except that principal evaluations almost never have the courage to actually rate ineffective teachers as ineffective.
Why don’t we compromise. We publish VAMs of teachers. Then, my side can pick our kids’ teachers based on VAMs. Since VAMs are useless in your eyes, your allies’ kids can be taught by any ol’ “outstanding” teacher with low VAM scores. Problem solved!
What say you?
Virginia SGP”
Sure sounds like the virginiasgp that has flailed and floundered away here for the last week or so. Hopefully (s)he has found other blogs to spout his/her tripe. But before you go vsgp, “a big fan of VAMs. . . . I’ll be happy to explain the models for you if you like.”
Yes, Virginia, please do!
Can’t wait for that one!!
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Hi Seniõr Swacker:
How are you? Brian or Virginiasgp does not have human conscience. Blogger SDP has the best poem to describe a typical mindset like Brian or Virginiasgp, as follows:
[start quote]
“”This is precisely why it is a very bad idea to “debate” such people. They are not constrained by reality and can (and do) adjust the ‘facts” and even terminology to fit their own private Idaho.
“Divorced from Reality”
I never married reality
So can not be divorced
Reality is not for me
And sure can’t be enforced!””
[end quote]
Please do not be bothered by any “”basket of nut.”” May
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Doing fine May! Hope all is well with you!
I agree with SDP on debating with those whose contact with reality is tenuous. I’m not sure at all the reason for the vitriol (s)he spews at me but unless (s)he chooses to identify him/herself and answer a few basic question, I have no need to respond to him. As we say in Spanish, Basta con este cojudo.
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VAsgp is a reliable troll on WAPO. Don’t know why s/he has emigrated here.
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Here is more comment on the claim that grade span testing is progress, because we have to accept “yearly” testing otherwise. This from Stephen Krashen:
“It is possible that the proposal that passes congress will have some kind of reduction in the amount of high-stakes testing required. If this happens, the testing industrial complex continue to make massive profits. MOREOVER, THEIR PROFITS WILL BE NEARLY THE SAME AS EVER, AND WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE OVER TIME.”
“The main cost of testing is the infrastructure, which will remain more or less the same regardless of the amount of testing done. As long as tests are administered online, the boondoggle will continue and grow and tests will continue to bleed funds that are badly needed elsewhere: Every time a new operating system or new hardware is required, we, the taxpayers, will pay the costs. This is why the “reformers” will cheerfully agree to a reduction.”
http://skrashen.blogspot.com/2015/07/united-opt-out-and-esea.html?spref=fb
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Chemtchr, why don’t you give us your advice about how to stop both annual testing and grade-span testing?
Or do you prefer no bill at all, leaving us with NCLB and high-stakes testing, plus RTTT with teacher evaluations based on test scores?
Please tell us your strategy
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I offer this http://savingstudents-caplee.blogspot.com/2013/12/accountability-with-honor-and-yes-we.html
ongoing classroom assessment
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REPEAL NCLB. The people will dance in the streets.
Write a patch to administer no-stakes NAEP to representative samples populations, and to distribute title I money. Model it on the original ESEA (35 pages, wasn’t it?) with no corporate regulatory role or outcome mandates at all.
Keep the goal of resource equity and opportunity to lern front and center. Collect federal data on that, so that unequal access triggers civil rights intervention. The NEA Opportunity Dashboard is a start in that direction.
That is the law we desperately need, to protect the children in our care. Every minute we aren’t fighting for it, .we waste. It isn’t even a hard question.
If your whole career is built on the thrill of top-down, insider status with the movers and the shakers, can you give that up and fight alongside the people for an honest law? For so many years, you insisted on the good intentions of your friends like Chester Finn and Bill Gates. Can you step away from them, from Randi and her corrupt union funding? If not, then you’ll build this claptrap juggernaut for the final destruction of the public sphere, not just education.
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Chem Teacher – Are you Breaking Bad?
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” the claim that grade span testing is progress, because we have to accept ‘yearly’ testing otherwise.”
I thought the main claim now is that we have to accept yearly testing no matter what, because that’s what’s in the ECAA and that’s what we should support.
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FLERP,
The Network for Public Education and I personally oppose annual testing. We made that clear.
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I live in a brown community and survived RTTT. I feel for the civil rights leaders who don’t want to give up some form of testing so they can try to hold schools, districts, and states responsible for providing our kids with a quality education. I also hate, hate, hate the testing and conservative destruction of our public school system. We have to find common ground. What’s so hard about administering a normed assessment every 2nd or 3rd year for a couple of hours each in reading and math, that will provide us with a snapshot of how our kids are doing relative to kids in other communities?
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I have no problem with grade span testing at say, 3rd, 6th, and 9th.
As long as scores are not used to punish, threaten, or stigmatize students, teachers, or schools. No AYP. No VAM. No AIS.
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Agreed! No teacher evaluation connection. And no open-ended items for Craigslist job seekers to rate.
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The scores are being used to hand whole school systems over to brutal privatizers, who use the statistical differences lower resourced kids will always show to deprive communities with working class children of their right to a free and equal education. Uncouple ALL federal oversight from “outcome measurements”, which will always be biased against the poor.
Instead, we urgently need to enforce equality of opportunity. How in God’s name does any “expert” anywhere NOT see that? The people on the streets sure as hell do.
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