Joyce Vance is a former federal prosecutor in Alabama who writes a blog called “Civil Discourse.” In this post, she explains the damage that Elon Musk and his DOGE boys are imposing on NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By making NOAA less effective, they are setting it up to be privatized and available for a fee, not freely available to the public. Their destruction of NOAA will hurt everyone, red and blue states alike.
She writes:
On March 12, there was reporting that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) was preparing to lay off more than 1,000 workers as part of the Trump administration’s “reductions in force” directive to federal agencies. Cuts like that call into question whether NOAA will continue to provide the early warnings and predictive modeling that help people prepare for weather emergencies in advance. People who live in hurricane and tornado country keep their “NOAA weather radios” handy, and they are especially important for events that occur, as they frequently do, when most of us are asleep.
In theory, it sounds like one more bad thing to worry about. In practice, it’s much worse. We’ve just had a demonstration of precisely how effective NOAA is and what we stand to lose without it.
Beginning on Friday, violent, long-track tornadoes with damaging winds of up to 80 mph and large hail materialized across the Midwest and South. This was the news Friday night. NOAA’s early warning system, transmitted on social media, radio, television, and by word of mouth, kept it from being much worse.

Saturday was even worse. Here in Birmingham, the alerts started midday.
At 12:27 pm, I got the first alert through the UA campus system, telling me that in light of what was expected, I should seek shelter now instead of waiting for an actual tornado warning. The system sends alerts after the National Weather Service makes the call about what to expect. The National Weather Service (NWS) is a component of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

We’ve grown accustomed to getting this level of detail. NOAA’s information gets pushed out ahead of these events, causing people to plan in advance. Hard helmets were in short supply here yesterday as people prepared for the storms.

We were relatively lucky in Birmingham. But other places were far less fortunate. By Saturday morning, ABC News reported 36 people were dead in the wake of the storms. This was what the devastation looked like in Tylertown, Mississippi. As I’m writing this, the storm is heading east into Georgia.

How much worse would it have been without the accurate forecasting that let our local news people and local emergency systems warn folks in the storms’ paths sufficiently in advance to get to their safe places? As much as I don’t like to think about it, if Trump and DOGE stay on their current path, we are going to be forced to. Mother Nature doesn’t care who you voted for. If there’s a tornado headed your direction, you need access to early warning systems. Gutting NOAA means you won’t have that.

An example of the tornado warnings issued by National Weather Services offices in Alabama throughout the day Saturday, permitting people to find shelter and take cover in advance.
At 8:52 p.m., local television in central Alabama pushed out a message from the National Weather Service: Talladega, take cover now. It was a tornado on the ground near the famous Superspeedway. Alerts meant people were able to stay safe, which is a good thing—this photo of a bus that ended up on the roof of a nearby high school makes it clear that these early warning systems are critically important. What happens if the National Weather Service is no longer there to do that?

Apparently, the Trump administration is not concerned with that. ABC is reporting that NOAA is down about 2,000 employees since January “as a result of the first round of the Trump administration’s cuts.” California Congressman Jared Huffman, who chairs one of the relevant House subcommittees, said, “There is no way to absorb cuts of this magnitude without cutting into these core missions. This is not about efficiency and it’s certainly not about waste, fraud and abuse. This is taking programs that people depend on to save lives and emasculating them.”
Cuts that sound like a good idea to Elon Musk and Donald Trump have real impacts on the rest of us. That is only just beginning to dawn on people, who I’m sure you’re hearing, like I am, saying, “But I didn’t vote for this.” Trump 2.0, as I’ve written previously, isn’t a pick-your-own-adventure experience. You go to the carnival, you get all of the rides.
We were fortunate last night. Everyone in our house (chickens included) is okay, we just have a little cleanup to do. But so many people weren’t that lucky. They lost houses and lives. They will need support from FEMA and other federal services. If DOGE continues its romp through essential federal work that we, as taxpayers, fund and rely on, it’s only going to get worse.
When will Republicans wake up? Will their Senators and members of Congress protest what DOGE is doing? Will they even fight for their own backyards? If they continue to bend the knee on this, then instead of demanding that government work for their constituents, they are permitting it to work for the financial interests of the powerful.
We know what to do about this. With this piece, and the one Friday night about an Idaho Fair Housing Council that I hope you’ll go back and readif you missed it, we’re putting a face on the people DOGE hurts. It’s not about waste and fraud; it’s about people. People who need their government to work for them. Here’s the phone number for the House switchboard: (202) 224-3121. Here’s that number for the Senate: (202) 224-3121. Make sure your representatives know how you feel.
We’re in this together,
Joyce

Musk & DJT See GOLD In Them Thar Hills. Private companies are starting to invest in weather satellites, but it would take an enormous amount of money to replicate the range of instrumentation and coverage that NOAA has in place. Satellites only last so long and take time to build, so NOAA is continually planning for the future, and using its technical expertise to develop new instruments and computer algorithms to interpret the data.
Some companies might be able to launch their own satellite, but one satellite only gives you part of the picture. NOAA’s weather observation network has been around for a long time and collects data from points all over the U.S. and the oceans. Without that robust data, computer models and the broad network of forecasters and developers, forecasting also becomes less reliable.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-private-forecasting-companies-cant-replace-the-national-weather-service/
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As long as there is a profit to be made, some equity investor will buy, strip it for parts, then sell it off.
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Diane: I think most of the country feels that Trump just shot their dog. And the people around him act like they have actually lost their minds.
For example, Sheldon Whitehouse, commenting on the Pam Bondi hearings, said she was brilliant and had an excellent grasp of the law in her answers . . . until questions got close to the Trump agenda when she seemed like a perfectly good airplane that just flew into the Bermuda Triangle.
The country seems to be trying to commit suicide while our hearts still keep beating away. CBK
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CBK,
You understated how bad it is.
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Diane: Maybe you don’t have a dog (just kidding).
I didn’t think anyone COULD understate it, but apparently, I and many others, though we saw the train coming, we had no idea of “how bad the wreck would be.”
We are all still involved in our own projection of “he wouldn’t do that” onto someone who, in fact is doing it. Projection of the good and honorable is what’s good about all of us who have some portion of either, but also what’s bad. We’ve been the same way with Putin. “Maybe this time he will honor his promises.”
I don’t know anyone who could have predicted what’s happened with Musk, however. It was way beyond anyone’s predictive powers. CBK
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I just read that Musk is getting briefings from the Pentagon on our relations with China.
How strange is that?
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Diane: Yes–Rachel Maddow had a headline last night about Musk’s meeting with the Pentagon about war plans and China.–today (the 21st).
I think the GOP Congress needs to think beyond worrying about being primaried. Their “reasoning” is really specious, every time the open their mouths–they are in the grip of something really sick.
I saw a political cartoon where the Statue of Liberty was being pulled down by a bunch of people pulling on ropes. Talk about chilling. CBK
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Diane: Also, Tim Walsh’s interview on Rachel Maddow right before that “breaking news” about Musk and China was a bullseye, and all of the protests going on right now are heartening.
But now Trump is using that old ploy of his–“everyone knows it” –about “it” being a good thing that the department of education is being shut down–and in the face of the polls that say again and again how unpopular the shutdown is.
So, despite polls, he speaks for everyone in the world: “Everyone knows it.” His arrogance is breathtaking. And Congress sleeps while EVERYONE KNOWS that PROJECT 1925 NEEDS TO BE TRASHED and ELON MUSK ARRESTED and KEPT in Jail. CBK.
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Trump has one great talent. He believes his own lies. He said the 2020 election was rigged, and no evidence can change his mind. He wants to eliminate the Dept of Ed, and nothing will dissuade him.
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Was camping (our 50th semi-annual Trophy Trout Trip with folks, most of whom I’ve known since we were 5) last week. Was able to survive last Friday evening’s tornado terror here in Missouri because we could see on the NWS radar that there was a break in the storm line that just so happened pass over us. High winds, no doubt up to 50-60 mph bursts-little rain. All around us in Missouri and where some of us live tornadoes were touching down.
Without NOAA we wouldn’t have known our local circumstances. NWS is literally a life saver as many of our relatives and friends had enough warning to seek proper shelter.
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Duane,
Don’t count on NOAA being there next year. The for-profit weather service may decide to ignore rural areas.
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Making our national weather service for profit reminds me of when we had for-profit firefighting.
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In 2018, Michael Lewis wrote “The Fifth Risk.” It’s all in the book. The chapter “All the presidents data” describes the plan to dismantle NOAA. He describes the importance of weather data collection and the National Weather Service. The part about AccuWeather gets pretty interesting.
My take away from the moves by the Trump regime? It’s to divide up all those institutions that were designed “to promote the general welfare” and to parcel out the parts to the oligarchs.
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“The part about AccuWeather gets pretty interesting.”
In what way(s) was that part interesting? I use NOAA/NWS and also AccuWeather’s radar. They have interesting forecasts that tend to be on the “scare em” side. . . focusing on the worst possible scenarios as if they are covering their asses so they can say “I told you so.”
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Mary Ollie: Yes, Michael Lewis is making the book-tour rounds–he’s a good speaker for understanding what’s going on. His book–written before all this happened, is really prescient. And now the economy–Trump is driving the good economy he was handed into the ground in less than three months. CBK
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Diaper Don the Porn Star’s John doesn’t want the working class to know when storms destroy areas of the country or world, so he can continue lying that global warming and climate change are a hoax.
Remember when the convicted rapist used a Sharpie to change the course of a hurricane, and the hurricane, that he wanted to nuke, didn’t obey him.
Hurricanes are now on his enemies list.
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