The U.S. Supreme Court announced yesterday that it will rule on whether Oklahoma taxpayers should pay for a religious charter school. The Court has been inching closer to shattering the wall of separation beteeen church and state. Its 6-3 rightwing majority seems to be eager to find a case where they can rule that states that refuse to pay tuition at religious schools are denying freedom of religion.
Is this the case?
If the Court does decide that Oklahoma must pay tuition for students at religious schools, the majority will have to stop claiming that they are Originalists, bound by the original intent of those who wrote the Constitution. It has never been the policy of any state to pay tuition at any religious school. The Supreme Court has issued a long line of decisions that rule against taxpayer responsibility for religious school tuition.
The effects of such a ruling would be to reduce funding for public schools, which enroll 85-90 percent of all students, to promote racial and religious segregation, and to endorse discrimination since religious and private schools are exempt from federal laws requiring the admission of students without regard to race, religion, gender, or disability.
Troy Closson of The New York Times reported:
The Supreme Court agreed on Friday to consider a high-profile case that could open the door to allowing public dollars to directly fund religious schools.
The widely watched case out of Oklahoma could transform the line between church and state in education, and it will come before a court whose conservative majority has broadly embraced the role of religion in public life.
The case centers on a proposal for the nation’s first religious charter school, St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School. The school would be online, and its curriculum would embed religious teachings throughout lessons, including in math and reading classes.
As a charter school, it would be run independently from traditional public schools. But public taxpayer dollars would pay for the school, and it would be free for students to attend.
The question of whether the government can fully finance a religious school has proved especially divisive within the school choice movement and across Oklahoma. Some conservative Christian leaders, including Gov. Kevin Stitt and Ryan Walters, the firebrand state superintendent who has sought to require teaching from the Bible in public schools, have backed St. Isidore’s creation.
They urged the Supreme Court to take up the case, believing the conservative-leaning court would decide in the school’s favor.
A coalition of religious leaders, advocates of public schools and some other state Republicans say the proposal is unconstitutional. Oklahoma’s Republican attorney general, Gentner Drummond, argued it would “open the floodgates and force taxpayers to fund all manner of religious indoctrination, including radical Islam or even the Church of Satan.”
After St. Isidore was approved by a state board in June 2023 in a narrow 3-to-2 vote, the Oklahoma Supreme Court blocked its creation. The justices wrote in a majority opinion that the school would “create a slippery slope” that could lead to “the destruction of Oklahomans’ freedom to practice religion without fear of governmental intervention.”
Still, as more Republican state legislatures move to support school vouchers and other options for parents to use public money to educate their children in private schools, including religious schools, some legal experts believe that charter schools would become another major arena in the debate.
Justin Driver, a professor at Yale Law School, said that a Supreme Court decision that allows religious charter schools “would represent nothing less than a sea change in constitutional law.”
“It is difficult to overstate the significance of this opinion for our constitutional order and the larger American society,” Mr. Driver said.
The case will present new education questions for the U.S. Supreme Court’s 6-to-3 conservative majority, which has shown an openness to religion in the public sphere. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, a member of the conservative bloc, recused herself from the case but did not explain why.
In a 2022 ruling, the court ruled that a high school football coach had the right to pray on the field after his team’s games.
Other recent cases have barred Maine and Montana from excluding religious schools from state tuition programs or scholarships to students in private schools. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote in both cases that states are not required to support religious education, but that those that opt to subsidize private schools cannot discriminate against religious ones.
Supporters of St. Isidore argue that blocking a religious charter school from receiving funding violates the First Amendment’s protection of religious freedom. Jim Campbell, the chief legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, a legal group representing the Oklahoma state charter board, praised the court’s decision to hear the case.
“Oklahoma parents and children are better off with more educational choices, not fewer,” Mr. Campbell said in a statement. “There’s great irony in state officials who claim to be in favor of religious liberty discriminating against St. Isidore because of its Catholic beliefs.”
The school was initially set to open in August and would be managed by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Oklahoma City and the Diocese of Tulsa. Leaders of the school say it would accept students of all faiths.
But opponents say that it would run into conflict with the constitutional prohibition on government establishment of religion, infringing on religious freedom. “Converting public schools into Sunday schools would be a dangerous sea change for our democracy,” several organizations, including Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said in a joint statement on Friday.
For decades, the hybrid nature of charter schools — sharing features of both public schools and private institutions — has made it difficult for courts to determine how different education issues should apply to them, according to Preston Green, a professor at the University of Connecticut who studies educational law.
Still, Mr. Green said he believes St. Isidore’s argument “could be very attractive” to the conservative justices — and that if the court ultimately sides with the charter school, “the implications are potentially huge.”
In the movement to remove barriers to funding religious education, “charter schools are really the next frontier,” Mr. Green said. “And it doesn’t end here.”

Religious Freedom’s just another word for not being forced by the State to put money in any church’s collection plate. No More Compulsory Tithes !!!
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This could represent the worst of the coming rift between the radical libertarian techbro wing of the Republican Party and the Christian nationalists. The current court so deftly devised by Leonard Leo has six Roman Catholics, five of the Opus Dei persuasion, and an Episcopalian who was raised Catholic. This will be the moment Christian Nationalists have been waiting for since Father Coughlin. If SCOTUS rules in favor of the catholic charter school it will be interesting to see if there is enough energy in “constitutionalists” to show meaningful outrage. If they rule otherwise, it will be another time where the right winged theocrats will feel betrayed and they could respond with violence. The evangelicals embraced by Trump have been somewhat left out of the conversation due to the infusion of billionaires in Trump’s orbit. I suspect there is some resentment stirring that could climax if SCOTUS actually ruled constitutionally.
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It’s Steve Bannon vs Curtis Yarvin for the soul fight of the century. Unfortunately, it’s a lose-lose for everyone no matter who “wins” in that dog fight.
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There were significant numbers who participated in January 6 who come from this “Dominionist” mindset. Pardoning them will provide agency for some to actually assault those people and institutions that put limits on their religious fervor. Once the violence starts and the government takes sides, who will protect whom? It’s going to get ugly and MAGA will turn on itself in the process.
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How does anyone that purportedly prays to Jesus justify attacking The Capitol and the police officers that are defending the building? Some of the attackers were public servants themselves. Some were in the military and law enforcement.
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There is so much wrong with this whole idea . . . and I am sad and, as a Catholic, ashamed of the people in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Oklahoma City for their attempt to corrupt a major pillar of democracy in a country that has paved the way for Catholics to enjoy their own freedom of religion. They are like bad seeds–having lived in a democratic/republican political arena that they apparently take great advantage of while, in the meantime, trying to destroy it at its very foundations. SHAME ON THEM.
The only thing good about it is that their arguments hold no legal water and aren’t even logical. If that’s all they have, their only hope is that the courts are similarly corrupt.
First, as a general idea, it’s been a concerted conspiracy against the State (of democracy) on the right for decades: the public/private collective was the camel’s-nose-under-the-edge of the tent for an assault on all things public, “For decades, the hybrid nature of charter schools — sharing features of both public schools and private institutions — has made it difficult for courts to determine how different education issues should apply to them, according to Preston Green, a professor at the University of Connecticut who studies educational law.“
Second, I cannot even begin to untwist the below narrative as just a logical much less a legal argument: “Supporters of St. Isidore argue that blocking a religious charter school from receiving funding violates the First Amendment’s protection of religious freedom. Jim Campbell, the chief legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, a legal group representing the Oklahoma state charter board, praised the court’s decision to hear the case.
“’Oklahoma parents and children are better off with more educational choices, not fewer’,” Mr. Campbell said in a statement. “There’s great irony in state officials who claim to be in favor of religious liberty discriminating against St. Isidore because of its Catholic beliefs.’”
On the contrary, they are using the agency of parents as a ploy to try to erase the boundaries between religion (in this case, as Catholicism) and (1) other religions and (2) between religious and political institutions, which again is and has been a pillar of democracy and THIS democracy for centuries.
These distinct institutions can and should have a tenuous relationship (family, education, polity, and religious) in a democracy, especially as related to the other institution of education; but they cannot collapse together to be one and the same institution without destroying that relational order, which is what it would be if EDUCATION as an institution, which is already linked to freedom of religion, were collapsed into a religious institution.
The distinct institution of education is linked to democracy by NOT being connected in any substantial way, including by financial support of the state, with religious doctrine or with one religion.
But they are trying to absorb the distinct institution of education into the similarly distinct institution of the church and, in this case, into one religion. Let Caesar be Caesar, and God be God. Again, SHAME ON THEM. CBK
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When my parents married (long ago), they agreed that their kids would never attend a Catholic school.
They kept that promise.
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jsrtheta: I don’t mean to imply that the Catholic schools cannot or do not provide what I understand as a good education. They can and I personally know of some who do.
The problem I am addressing is their more recent (right-wing and Leonard Leo inspired, etc.) incursions into public/secular education, their leaders joining up with other religious and oligarchical affiliations to performatively weaken public education, and the mostly-GOP political leadership who have no interest in anything that really does serve the public. Their interest in gaining more money (some of which goes to the larger church) is especially galling.
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Let me put it this way: My father graduated from Boston College. He told me when I was young that he would pay my tuition to any college I wanted, as long as it wasn’t B.C.
But no, I don’t think the Catholic Church is the primary player in the “school choice” scam. I do know that they see an opportunity when they see one, and they’ll cheerfully hop on the money train.
I should also add that I went to a Jesuit law school, and it was one of the smartest choices I ever made. But religion was irrelevant there. And it was a great school.
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Jsrtheta: Most people that I know have no idea about the depth and excellence of the educational work that goes by “Catholic education” in this country. And my own work and research for years has been about the philosopher, Bernard Lonergan, who was a Jesuit but also a brilliant philosopher who lectured at Boston and had residence there for a while. Boston College has programs devoted to his work and a yearly conference that I attended each summer for years when I lived on the East Coast, and here at LA Loyola after that.
The Catholic tradition, such as it is, and as you probably know, has a long and checkered history, however, and even though its intellectual thread is as rich as any that the world has ever seen.
On the other hand, I am seriously dismayed at the part many of its leaders have played in the wounds inflicted on this democracy and on where it seems to be going in that regard. Leo and The Federalist Society is a case in point.
I am not so sanguine about its interest in the money train as they (I suspect and have some evidence for) have lots of hidden wealth and seem to also be blind to how it has joined in “infecting” the health of public education in this country, especially in the last few decades. If they want to provide private education that is private and harbors their doctrine, like all the others, they need to stay away from the public trough of tax dollars.
There are many on many levels of the Church who are so biased and blind (witness the child abuse debacle) that they are nothing less than a cancer on it and deserve the utter contempt that many feel for it. So, it continues to be one of those things that has excellent ideals (mostly in my view) but that falls way short of them in way too many cases. On the other hand, more of us would have had a much better time of it if we had been advised about their education as you were by your father. CBK
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I am also no doubt affected by past experience.
I got an excellent education at Loyola Law in Chicago. Great teachers/professors.
But I also recall from my Boston boyhood days Catholic Memorial High School, which was largely acknowledged as the last stop before juvenile prison. The students were too busy getting the crap kicked out of them to bother with an education. And every other school knew that you never went to a high school dance at Catholic Memorial, because the next stop would be a hospital.
I learned all this from going to another school, Roxbury Latin, which was old enough that one of the patriots assisting Paul Revere on his famous “ride” was an RL alum.
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jsrtheta: Good grief, what a story . . . also points to the difference in history between k-12 and higher education, but that’s just my probably narrow experience of both.
I subbed at a Catholic high school in Virginia for awhile; and, having taught in public school for some time on my way to University, it was quite clear to me that the Catholic students were much better behaved and actually treated me (as a sub!) as a real person. Whereas, for the public school, especially for those subs who braved the field, you were lucky if the students didn’t break up the furniture. My hope is that both stories are more anomalous than common.
In all my criticism of charter/private schools, however, I would never say that public education needs no serious reform–the institution has been infected with the same range of philosophical and social vagaries that have saturated common culture, and especially where “core” and “stem” curricula are concerned. That’s why I joined Diane’s blog-arena in the first place. CBK
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A lot of this is due to changes in what’s accepted.
In my public school days (’50s, ’60s) they were better behaved. Then again, my experience was in the Boston suburbs.
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to jsrtheta: IN MODERATION.
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Where is this place called moderation? 😉
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Duane: Hell if I know (where ‘moderation’ is). CBK
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My other note is in moderation. But another point is that there is a tacit State endorsement of the Catholic religion when that religion collects and manages funds from that state that go through that one institutional order, even if there is no direct corruption involved, as in absconding with funds like charter manager/CEOs do.
In this way, the Catholic Church is dismantling democracy from the bottom up, so to speak, one diocese at a time (ironically using democratic principles) and by using the false idea of parent agency (freedom of choice), and in a thinly veiled version of George Orwell’s double speak–because, once children are accepted, they are really being limited to one religion–exactly the opposite of what occurs in public schools. It’s a scam plain and simple.
Also, instead of the institution teaching ABOUT religions and how they have been a part of the history of the world, they come at it (probably slowly at first) from the view of Catholic doctrine only, knowing full well how young people’s feelings and attitudes are early formed around their early education and difficult to change once set so early. They are using an innocuous-sounding smokescreen to purview huge movements of thought with many doctrinal overtones.
And so, the Church is setting the stage (in children’s deep-set education) for a later version of tribal warfare where (my religion, not yours) religious doctrines clash at the very basic level of political existence and where, at its worst, genocide becomes a personal method of protecting the good of God’s world. Think Gaza and Israel . . . there’s so much wrong with what they are doing. CBK
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BTW, doesn’t the money(ies) that flow into a diocese from the State have an institutional way of being funneled to the international version of the Church, e.g., Rome? The Church (ANY church) is not owned and operated by the State (on the same principle of freedom of religion, btw); and whatever regulations the church must follow are at the service of the common good and “the people.” If they have a problem with the specifics of that situation, then go at the specifics, and not at the whole institutional order of a democratic state.
It’s nothing less than insidious, and right up the Project 25 alley, though I wonder if they really know what the hell they are doing. But if it’s deliberate, then they can all go to hell. CBK
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From tax b breaks for religious institutions to coins reading in God We Trust, our government has been ignoring the First Amendment in significant ways for decades. This will be the ultimate test for a US Constitution that is being discredited by a white theocratic movement that really just wants all of the spoils.
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pabonner: I hear what you are saying; however, while the institutions (four of them) remain distinct by their purposes and functions, there is the further field of how best to relate those institutions in a moving history and in different developmental states of the persons involved. (Family, education, polity, religion as historically evident.)
From how I understand it, institutional separations are concretely established and are living elements of any culture–and so working out their relationships “on the ground” needs to be more fluid than wall-like, while maintaining the distinct integrity of each institution.
In this way, for instance, you have a place for religious elements and times even in the military that are not controlled by, but are still wholly connected with the political order . . . and the military is not controlled by the church. It’s an allowance and not a requirement, for peace–fluid–to account for persons and our own fluid developmental patterns.
With that as an intellectual and systematic backdrop, one could say the points that you make are (besides being centuries old as “In God We Trust”) allow room for those who do (trust God). As an actual working and intelligent order in history, that fluidity between distinct institutions has been the anti-thesis of the extreme and its built-in nature of purveying political genocide. CBK
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Speak plainly. I read this three times and I’m still wondering exactly what you’re saying.
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pabonner: Look at any culture–there are four distinct elements there, each in their own patterns of development AS distinct institutions and as each relates to the other.
In a secular democracy (like ours), all four have reached a mature level of clear differentiation from one another — this is an historical fact. You don’t go to your church to get a driver’s license, for instance, or to the church for a legal judgment (the courts are an element of the political not the religious institution). (Many blend-overs, but the structure is the same.)
That’s US. But look at some other cultures, like in the Middle East, and you can see that they are still struggling to distinguish the religious from the political–(the Mullahs try to maintain a theocracy–a lack of distinction to-down order, between religious and political powers–and the entire social order and education goes “under” that power structure.
No so for us. It’s an unfolding movement in history, however, where different cultures are at different stages of differentiation and then trying to find the right relationship. A mature democracy maintains a clear distinction, but also a moving relationship between institutions (what I meant by “fluid.”)
And that’s what’s going on in Oklahoma as we speak–a slow but ongoing dis-integration of (non-arbitrary) foundational institution aimed at a collapse of the hard-won distinction (secular) between the religious and political institutional order. (There are relevant citations if you want.)
The authoritarian government idea is the same thing, only where the political person or institution is at the top instead of the religious, like with a kingship–and everything else falls underneath. King Henry VIII is the best example of that break and reorganization in history, but then so was Hitler, and so is Putin. With Trump, in my view, religion is either amenable to Trump or thrown under the bus, or out a window in a high-rise building. CBK
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A CORRECTION: “top down” as in
” . . . a theocracy–a lack of distinction . . . and a top-down order, between religious and political powers–and the entire social order and education goes “under” that power structure.
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Any justice who okays this funding should be impeached. Even if funding is found unconstitutional by a majority.
I’m looking at you, Sam. And you too, Clarence.
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How can the common citizen have a say in that?
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1 – Speaking out
2 – Organizing
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jsrtheta: My response to pabonner was really to your note asking for clarification–my error. CBK
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Parents may not know it, but they are being sold a bill of goods–trade your free choice of an educational establishment for a thinly veiled restriction to one-religion both FOR that religion’s singular religious doctrines and AGAINST all other religious views, doctrines, and institutions. It’s Orwellian to its core.
In the mix, public education is slowly squeezed out of existence to where there will be NO CHOICE whatsoever. CBK
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For the right-wing doctrinal Catholic (or other) religious thinker, ANY secular-type education that occurs in their schools, like math, etc., becomes rather than an educational end for the student, but the educational content as well as the student become the means to the perpetration of a totalitarian result.
Make America Great Again, to where the religious institutions and their leaders understood their normative relationship to the basic structure of a secular democracy. CBK
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Will Elon Musk become pope?
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Musk will be fuhrer first, then pope.
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Given precedent in history, is it time again for competing popes? The Catholic faith seems to be torn between factions, easy feeling or at least claiming to represent God. Is Avignon all spruced up?
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It’s a fake school – an online, religious, charter, school cannot meet the commonly understood definition of a school.
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While this school may be a shibboleth, if the Supreme Court supports the Christian Nationalists’ claim , it would allow religious schools to shake down public school budgets with the potential of endangering public school systems across the country.
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Christine,
Online schools are VERY profitable
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The most astonishing part of this is the fact that this movement is being fueled by the twice impeached, convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, racist, insurrection inciter and quite possibly the LEAST religious person in government has once again returned to power. It’s horrible to witness the crumbling of our democracy.
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The last time Trump had a Bible in his hands he held it upside down. Except for the Bible he was selling.
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FWIW Amy Coney Barrett has recused from this case, so there are only 8 justices. If anyone of the 5 remaining Republican appointed justices votes with the 3 Democratic appointed justices, the 4-4 result will leave the lower court decision in place.
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Thanks, Ken.
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I don’t see that happening.
But Barrett continues to interest.
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