Trump says he will deport 11 million illegal immigrants. He says his deportation program will be unlike anything the nation has ever seen. He is right.
Trump says that Franklin D. Roosevelt deported over one million Mexican immigrants. Not literally true. His aide Stephen Miller must have told him that; Miller will probably be put in charge of the program if Trump wins the election. He hates immigrants.
Actually, the deportations were started in 1930 and reached a peak in 1931, before FDR was elected. Estimates for the numbers of those deported ranged from 300,000-2 million, about half of whom were American citizens. President Herbert Hoover approved the deportation program on the belief that Mexicans were taking jobs from white people. Most of the deportation was implemented by local and state governments.
What would it look like to deport 11 million people?
First, they would have to be rounded up in massive raids. Imagine the terror as federal agents arrived at the homes of immigrants and raided them, carrying away families–men, women and children.
Where to put 11 million people?
Then, the federal government would have to build thousands, tens of thousands of detention camps. Every state would have detention centers. This would be a massive undertaking, because the camps would need to be constructed and supplied with beds, food, personnel, doctors and nurses.
Trump has suggested that the deportees would each have a serial number. Would it be tattooed on their arms?
Inevitably, families would be torn apart, people would die, women would give birth in the camps.
The images sent around the world of detention camps for millions of people would humiliate our country as a cruel, heartless place.
Someone should drape a hood over the Statue of Liberty, so that she does not see what is happening as she lifts her lamp “beside the golden door.”
On the base of the Statue of Liberty, “The New Collosus,” by Emma Lazarus.
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
No more. Stay home. We are full. No more room. Not at this inn.
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Biden has deported more people than Trump did in his term. Harris told immigrants “Do not come. Do not come.” Biden is building the wall that liberals screamed in horror about when it was Trump’s wall, and children are still in cages. Biden also made amnesty nearly impossible to obtain. I’d be more inclined to believe your crocodile tears for immigrants if you would address the administration currently abusing them.
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Tell that to Trump voters, who firmly believe that Biden and Harris support “open borders.”
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So the fact that Trump voters are raging idiots changes anything? The fact is that the Biden administration has been worse for immigrants than Trump was. Will Trump be worse in a second term? Probably, but only because each succeeding presidential term has been worse than the last.
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So you think that stopping immigrants at the border and sending them back is worse than sending out the National Guard to round up 11 million immigrants and their families? These are people who have American children, people who work and pay taxes, people who have been here for years. But you don’t see the difference.
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/28/trump-biden-immigration-deportation-00167914
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I repeat, Dienne: refusing to admit immigrants who tried to enter illegally is far different from rounding up, detaining and expelling 11 million people currently living in the U.S.
I suppose when a detention camp for 5,000 is erected in your own neighborhood you might notice.
Probably not.
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You didn’t even read the article. Biden has **actually deported** more people than Trump. Not just blocked entry.
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They entered the U.S. and were returned to Mexico.
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Maybe I’m an awful person but I actually support stopping immigrants at the border and sending them back if they haven’t satisfied the requirements for a valid asylum claim. Biden has been good on this.
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Biden is required to continue building the border wall due to the appropriations for the wall in 2019. According to law, he cannot substitute his policy preferences.
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/bidens-border-wall-explained/
The Biden administration has also been trying (and sometimes succeeding) in reuniting families. Yes, thr ar still children in detention but that’s ben the way the system has worked for a long time. Also, courts have forced th Biden administration to enforce the Remain in Mexico policy.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-detention-child-migrants
Dienne, you are correct that these things are still happening but you may be assigning responsibility for these things incorrectly, or somewhat incorrectly.
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So, Democrats are helpless. That doesn’t seem a convincing reason for me to vote for them.
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Dienne, no one cares who you vote for.
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Yeah, you do because you’ve spent the last 8 years blaming the left for Hillary’s loss.
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Nonsense. I blame James Comey for Hillary’s loss. If he had not reopened his investigation of her emails–in direct contravention of Justice Department rules and practice–she would have won. Before Comey stepped up, she had a large lead. He closed the investigation a few days later, having found nothing, but the damage was done.
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“The fact is that the Biden administration has been worse for immigrants than Trump was.”
Please cite your source for this “fact”.
It is from some right wing Putin-funded news?
Is it from the people who have devoted their lives helping immigrants who are saying this?
Or is it from people who have devoted their lives scapegoating Dems for everything evil and also giving Dems no credit for anything good they have done?
It is beyond sick that this person blows off the racist incitement when the two Republican LEADERS accuse Haitians of kidnapping and eating their neighbors’ pets. The ignorance of those Putin-defenders who think it is a joke to libel a group of people and incite people to hate them.
Why don’t you go to Springfield and lecture the Haitians there about how putting Trump and Vance in power is no big deal to YOU?
Sometimes you sound like JD Vance. You think it’s okay to spew lies because it brings attention to some issue that you profess to care about. But it’s really just about spreading more hate.
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Dienne, I responded to your initial post with supporting sources. Your response was to say that “Democrats were helpless.”
You could have reviewed the sources and seen that there are limitations to making policy. We have rule of law in the US. (For now.)
To hold one person responsible when they have attempted and expressed policy preferences and have been shot down is unreasonable.
You want to be right more than you want to listen.
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We are a nation of immigrants. Despite all the misinformation surrounding them, they are a benefit to our economy and culture. In fact, after a long career of working with immigrants, it is my opinion that immigrants are often more appreciative of what this country has to offer than many of our citizens. Many of the immigrants that come here are aspirational strivers that seek to work for a better future for their families. Immigrants often come from countries with widespread violence and repressive governments. They appreciate the individual freedoms and opportunities we have in this country even more because they have fled oppression. We must not allow our great country to fall into the hands of those that would impose an autocratic dictatorship on our people and send immigrants to dehumanizing camps where they would likely be exploited and monetized by right wing extremists and force the American taxpayer to fund this injustice. It is estimated that Trump’s “children in cages” policy cost the taxpayers $4.5 million dollars a day.
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beautifully said, RT!
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Merci, Bob.
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Imagine the terror.
There are people who are still arguing that Trump is not a racist and a Fascist.
Those people are morons OR are racist and Fascist themselves but don’t like being called out.
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I agree.
There are also people who are willing to acknowledge that Trump might be a racist and a fascist, but they explain that means that Trump is no different than the Democrats, because the Democrats are definitely racist and fascist, too.
I would use your last sentence to describe those people, too.
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the first large-scale action of Hitler’s SS, by the way, was deporting immigrants
–Timothy Snyder
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Another thing that will ensue is that people working with the immigrants who are being rounded up will be very busy trying to get their friends out of lockup so they can get back to work.
let’s say I have been working with a guy named Juan for 25 years. I watched his kids grow up. They came over and brought taco lingua in the fall when the cool weather made us all want to sit by a bonfire and laugh over a Modello. I rejoiced when the daughter got a scholarship to play soccer at BASU. Juan has a son. He was born when we started working together and I went to the baptism. Only time I ever was in the Catholic Church. Then one day agents came into the neighborhood and took Juan along with fifty other men that looked like him. I go over to the local camp to try to explain that he is my work partner, and I cannot get work without him. My begging does not good. Juan did not fill out the papers correctly.
If Trump-Miller do what he said he would, the economic catastrophe would be the worst ever seen. On the ground it would be personal.
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Imagine the restaurants, hotels, farms, vineyards, orchards, and construction projects that would lose their workers when Trump’s Gestapo grabs them.
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One needs to asked how much will Trump’s deportation plan cost the taxpayer. Not just the economic impact to this county of sending all the so called illegals back to their countries. That in its self would be enormous. The cost of rounding up the people, building detention centers, transportation, feeding, medical, etc., etc.
What programs will the federal and state government have to dip into to cover the above mentioned costs? Will Trump again dip into the defense budget as he did for his failed wall? What is the impact to funding for education at the elementary and higher education levels?
Where will the money come from for this debacle? From all the taxpayers’ pockets. But Trump will not tell his cult followers the hard truth of how it will impact them financially.
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The cost to taxpayers: Zero.
According to Trump, tariffs, big, beautiful tariffs, will pay for everything.
Trump has proposed cutting taxes for Social Security recipients, overtime pay (unless the Trump Labor Department again reclassifies who can get unemployment), parents (I think a child tax credit is in there somewhere), lifting the cap on SALT taxes (which thee 2017 law capped, so a reversal), tipped personnel (though language matters on this because his previous proposal made it possible for people who don’t receive tips to somehow claim they do and receive a tax break).
China pays for it in tariffs. Apparently. Not the consumers.
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I wonder what weed Trump’s Cult subhumans are smoking or powder they are snorting these days to believe this BS. But they will believe anything that flows like crap out of orange face’s pie hole.
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RIGHT!!!!
The sun comes up in the west. But if Orange Face Trump said it comes up in the west then his feeble minded Cult members would believe.
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Trump and Miller. Pure evil, both of them.
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If every immigrant and descendant of immigrants, who were born here (that would include me), were rounded up and deported (along with Traitor Trump and his entire family), there may be one segment of the US population that might celebrate.
The almost 7-million estimated Native Americans in the United States, whose ancestors arrived 10 to 15 thousands years before the other immigrants invaded a few centuries ago.
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i have worked with the Japanese American National Museum. What these slimeballs are proposing is dangerous in so many ways and it is (and will become) an unremovable stain on this country if this horrible plan goes through. I do NOT this in my name. Never.
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The pain and suffering that this plan would cause is inestimable. It would be a human tragedy of catastrophic proportions. These people, Trump and Miller, are EVIL. They should already have been arrested and tried in U.S. and international court for the mass kidnapping of the children of asylum seekers. IF THERE WERE ANY FREAKING JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.
Our justice system is a really bad joke. A Just Us system for the demented and powerful.
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Evil. These people are pure evil.
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