At a campaign rally in Conway, South Carolina, Donald Trump said that he met with “the president of a big country,” who asked him, “Well sir, if we don’t pay, and we’re attacked by Russia – will you protect us?”
Trump said he responded:.
“I said: ‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’ He said: ‘Yes, let’s say that happened.’ No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them (Russia) to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay.”
European leaders were shocked by Trump’s casual dismissal of Article 5 of NATO, which binds every member nation to defend any other nation that is attacked. Since NATO was created in 1949, in response to the Soviet threat, Article 5 has been invoked only once, in aid of the United States on September 11, 2001. NATO has kept the peace, as it was meant to do. The USSR has never invaded a NATO nation, which may explain why so many former Soviet satellites weee eager to join NATO.
Thirty-one nations now belong to NATO.
Trump doesn’t understand how it works, so The Washington Post tried to explain it, in hopes that he reads it.
NATO member nations all make payments to cover the operating expenses of the organization, which was founded in the aftermath of World War II to help Western Europe counter the Soviet Union with help from Canada and the United States. But they don’t pay membership fees to remain in the alliance, so there’s no delinquency to speak of.
Countries do, however, commit to spending at least 2 percent of their gross domestic product (GDP) on defense each year, with the goal of ensuring the alliance’s military readiness and deterring any potential attacks. The commitment is a guideline, not a requirement, that has been in place for nearly two decades.
Last year, 11 countries met or exceeded that target, according to NATO statistics. The rest spent smaller portions of their GDP on defense. (Iceland, the only member state with no armed forces, is omitted from the data set.)
The nation that spent the most on military readiness was Poland, perhaps because of the years it was subjugated by the USSR.
Second was the United States.
The other nine that met the goal of at least 2% were: Greece, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, Romania, Latvia, Hungary, the United Kingdom, Slovakia.
The nations that Trump is offering up to Putin as targets for invasion are: France, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Albania, Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Czech Republic, Portugal, Italy, Canada, Slovenia, Turkey, Spain, Belgium and Luxembourg. None of these countries met their 2% of GDP goal for military spending.
If you have been thinking of vacationing in any of the unprotected nations, like France, Germany, or Spain, it would be best to plan your trip in 2024. Should Trump be elected, those nations might be battlefields or Russian satellites.

Last night, Trump tried to blame Biden for giving away Ukraine to Putin. Mary Trump seems correct in believing her uncle is insane.
Speaking at a campaign event in North Charleston, S.C., Mr. Trump said that, under a Biden presidency, Mr. Putin is “going to be given everything he wants, including Ukraine. That’s a gift. He’s got a gift.”
Then Mr. Trump — who often positively invokes Mr. Putin as an authoritarian strongman, and who acknowledged in his speech that they got along — doubled down, saying that Mr. Biden “is going to give” Ukraine to Mr. Putin.
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Trump has long, long, long been a buffoon and a criminal. Now he is an insane buffoon and criminal.
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Christina,
That Trump claim that Biden will give Ukraine to Putin is astonishing. Trump has told his loyalists in Congress to block aid to Ukraine.
So he was either lying and relying on his followers not knowing or he is in fact insane.
I hope he now tells Speaker Mike Johnson that he can vote aid for Ukraine.
By the way most of the money for Ukraine is spent in America. We send them military stuff—like bullets, missiles, etc , made in the USA.
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War is big business in the U.S.
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Protecting the United States and the rest of the free world is big business in the United States.
AS. IT. SHOULD. BE.
AS. IT. MUST. BE.
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As people say, “Ain’t nobody else gonna carry that ball.”
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Any time Trump says ‘Sir’ it indicates that he is lying through his nose (I’m being nice here). So that so called conversation did not happen. Period.
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Ladyfair,
There are several reasons to believe that Trump’s story is fake.
He has been out of office for three years. When did he have a meeting with the leader of a European nation? Or Canada?
He said the leader “stood up.” That suggests that Trump was standing at a podium and the leader of the other country rose. When did that happen?
Why would the president or prime minister of another country treat him with deference when he is out of office? Or, when he was in office, they were equals.
This is just a fake Trump parable.
What’s frightening is not that it’s fake but that he invited Putin to attack our allies. Poland and other former Soviet satellites are not amused.
Even more frightening is that he threatens the architecture of the alliance that has kept the peace since 1949. No NATO country has been attacked since then, except for 9/11. All our NATO allies came to our defense.
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A parable has a moral or spiritual message, though, so “fiction” is a more apt description.
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Trump is not a smart man. And so his tells are really, really, really obvious.
People call me up and they say, Sir, . . .
Typical intro to an entirely fabricated Trump anecdote
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When in the last three years has he met with world leaders?
Why does he think members of NATO pay dues? They don’t. They agree to spend a % of their GDP on defense.
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the irony never fails to amaze.
Pay to play by the creep who never pays his bills
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U.S. Army General Patraeus, who also served as the Director of the CIA and knows what’s really going on in this world, points out that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is “as right versus wrong as it gets in this world. Here we have a brutal, unprovoked invasion at the orders of a kleptocratic leader who denies Ukraine’s right to exist. And keep in mind that Putin won’t stop there. [Driving Russia out of Ukraine] is in our cold, hard national interest.”
And yet, Putin’s pals in the House of Representatives would rather play politics instead of pay attention to our nation’s interest.
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We should also note that China is waiting in the wings watching what unfolds in Ukraine. A US abandonment of Ukraine would embolden them to make a move against Taiwan.
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It absolutely would. And it would embolden Putin to go after Moldova, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Finland, and lord only knows how many other places. WE MUST STOP THIS MANIAC HERE. We need to continue our support until the marauders are driven out of every square nanometer of Ukraine, including Crimea and the Donbas. If I were president, I would send U.S. bombers to take out the Kerch Bridge completely.
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Want-to-be dictator Traitor Trump is exercising his usual ignorant misleading lying BS. And his brutal, trollish MAGA mafia mob is drinking his lies like they are poison laced Kool Aid. Eager to die for their tiny, gilded toilet god wearing stinky adult diapers.
The NATO members in Europe, combined, spends more than $250 BILLION annually and has almost 2 million active duty military troops. That’s more than twice what Russia pays for its defense and a much larger military force taht’s better equipped and trained than Russia’s. Since 2016, the EU members have been talking about creating an EU joint military with one command because of the malignant narcissist twins, Putin and Trump.
The UK and EU are also nuclear powers (more than 500 nuclear warheads between the two countries — more than enough to bomb Russia out of existence if Putin uses nuclear first) with at least one Trident sub carrying missiles with nuclear weapons on patrol all the time
Most of those countries also belong to the EU military alliance. The United States spends about $700 MILLION to support the NATO military alliance and has less than 100,000 US military troops stationed in the EU and most of them are in Germany. I’ve been told but have not fact checked, that MOST of those troops are not front line grunts. They are not the troops that will be doing the fighting. If war breaks out in Europe with Russia, the United States will be airliting most of our the combat troops in from around the world since the US has about 700 military bases scattered all over the globe outside of the US. The US troops in the EU and UK, are support staff.
The first to arrive will probably be a couple of battalions of Marines already on Navy ships (smaller aircraft carriers with escorts – we have more aircraft carriers than the big ones we her about all the time in the media) in the area on patrol. They are a fast reaction force closer to the Middle East and Asia with airlift ability.
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Trump was once asked by a reporter whom he goes to for military advice. He answered that he “watches the shows.”
He’s an imbecile. He doesn’t know Ukraine from his asshole. He only knows that his handler, Putin, the guy who paid billions to get Trump elected, wants Ukraine.
By the way, what do a g-string and Trump’s hair have in common?
They both barely cover an asshole.
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Bob,
Tsk-tsk. You must be hyperpartisan.
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I love my country.
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Me too!
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This, alone, should disqualify Trump from office. He is a treasonous imbecile, and he is working for the enemy. Anyone who supports him when he says stuff like this is either totally clueless or is also a treasonous imbecile and a fellow traveler with Fascist Putin.
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A fifth of respondents on a poll I read about think that there is a Taylor Swift conspiracy to get Biden a second term. And we wonder why democracy sits on the precipice.
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BTW, the traitorous POS Elon Musk has officially come out against further US aid to Ukraine and made the preposterous claim that Putin cannot lose there.
We should kick him TF out of our country. Let him go do business in Siberia.
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Maybe Musk is feeling the possibility that the Russian weapons that violate the nuclear space treaty might be turned on his starling satellite system. This would deprive him of yet another revenue stream.
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And maybe he is just another Russian stooge like Trump and Carlson and Tupperville and McConnell.
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Musk should have been arrested by the U.S. and imprisoned for turning off his Starlink System on the occasion of a Ukrainian offensive in Crimea, thus rendering the Ukrainians blind and vastly helping the Russian war criminals. I’m quite serious about this.
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