I have been thinking for a long while about writing a post describing my views about the war in the Middle East. It’s not something I could toss off easily because my views are complicated.
As a Jew, I support Israel because I am painfully aware of the many centuries of Jew-hatred. My father’s father and mother fled Poland in the mid-19th century. All the Jews in their hometown (Lomza) were subsequently murdered by the Nazis. My mother and her immediate family (parents and sister) fled Bessarabia (now Moldova) in 1914 after a pogrom. Not one member of the families they left behind survived the Holocaust. Not one. Jews know in their bones that nowhere is truly safe from anti-Semitism.
After World War II, Israel became that one place where it was safe to be Jewish. A tiny speck of a nation but besieged by its neighbors, who were determined to destroy it on the first day of its existence. Surrounded by neighbors who did not believe it had the right to exist. Egypt and Jordan have made peace, and four others established diplomatic relations in 2020 (Morocco, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Sudan), but other Muslim nations have not. Saudi Arabia was about to recognize Israel before October 7. Hamas does not accept Israel’s right to exist: that’s the literal meaning of “from the river to the sea.”
I was in Berlin on October 7. It was a horrifying day as news of the atrocities filtered out. First reports said that 70 people had been murdered, then the numbers grew, as did stories of parents murdered in front of their children, entire families slaughtered, women brutally raped and murdered, grenades thrown into bomb shelters where people were hiding, homes burned with their occupants inside, hundreds of young people murdered at a dance concert, scores of people—elderly people, even babies—taken hostage. It got worse by the minute. The killers videotaped their atrocities and their joy as they murdered.
As I watched the reports on television, I learned that one of my grandsons was in Israel, visiting friends at a dive resort in Eilat where he had worked for two years as a marine photographer. I worried about him getting out safely, and he did, a week later. He told me that he had plans to go to the SuperNova concert but the friends who offered him a ride had a quarrel and broke up, so he didn’t go. Thank God.
Hamas lured Israel into a trap. Hamas expected massive retaliation and was willing to accept mass casualties of their people. Hamas not only blocked Saudi recognition but managed to put the Palestinian cause on the front pages and make themselves the victims, not the Israelis. Days after the Hamas attack, Timothy Snyder warned that acts of mass terror are a trap and warned Israel not to fall into it.
He wrote:
Terror can be a weapon of the weak, designed to get the strong to use their strength against themselves. Terrorists know what they are going to do, and have an idea what will follow. They mean to create an emotional situation where self-destructive action seems like the urgent and only choice.
When you have been terrorized, the argument that I am making seems absurd; the terrorists can seem to you to be raving beasts who just need punishment. Yet however horrible the crime, it usually does not bespeak a lack of planning. Usually part of the plan is to enrage.
Netanyahu took the bait.
I hold Hamas responsible for the egregious atrocities that ignited the war.
I hold Netanyahu responsible for ignoring multiple warnings of an imminent attack, including those from the unarmed young women in the IDF who served as observers (“spotters”) at the border and saw Hamas militants practicing for the assault (most of the spotters were murdered in the first wave of attacks).
I hold Netanyahu responsible for imagining that Hamas had become moderates as they collected hundreds of millions from friendly Arab nations. Hamas spent the money building elaborate tunnels and stockpiling weapons, not on building a good economy and public services for the people of Gaza.
I hold Netanyahu responsible for placating Hamas to prevent the creation of a Palestinian nation, which is the only just solution to the endless subjugation of Palestinians by Israel.
I hold Netanyahu responsible for encouraging Israelis to build settlements in the West Bank on land that should be part of a Palestinian state and treating those settlers as superior to the native Palestinians.
I hold Netanyahu responsible for the indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, which is killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children and reducing cities, towns, and communities to rubble. In the meantime, this ruthless campaign is making Israel a pariah state and endangering the remaining hostages.
Since October 7, I have subscribed to Haaretz and learned a great deal about the widespread antipathy towards Netanyahu. Most Israelis agree that Netanyahu must go. Close to 80% oppose him. I want him to resign or stand for election as soon as possible. I hope he is soon replaced by a leader devoted to pursuing peace with the Palestinians and a genuine two-state solution, as the UN envisioned 75 years ago. Genuine leadership would withdraw all the settlements from the West Bank, as they were withdrawn from Gaza in 2005. Genuine leadership would plan for a future of peace and prosperity for the region, not only for Israel.
The pursuit of peace requires both sides to negotiate in good faith. Spokesmen for Hamas have vowed to attack Israel again and again in the future. Hamas cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith. They are terrorists and proud of it. No Israeli government can endure a terrorist regime on its borders. Other Arab nations will have to commit themselves to stopping Hamas terrorism. They must stop funding Hamas and collaborate to build a functional government for any new Palestinian state, a government that forswears terrorism and is committed to providing security, economic development, and public services for its people.
I stand with Israel. I oppose terrorism. I hope for a day when the Jewish state lives free of the fear of terrorism and of war, side by side with neighbors that respect its borders and that share in regional prosperity. If that day ever comes, the people of the Middle East will enjoy a new world of peace.

How can you call it a war when one side has a state of the art army (which everyone is required to join, so there are no civilians over the age of 18), navy, air force, intelligence service (that intentionally missed the intelligence) and unlimited U.S. backing with weapons and finances and the other side is mostly civilians – overwhelmingly women and children – confined to a concentration camp with a few rockets? What would you do if you were a young Palestinian man who had grown up seeing his friends and family slaughtered by Israel?
I get it, Jews have been persecuted. But so have Wiccans, Romani people and many others. How about if they take over Long Island for their safe country? You good with giving up your home for their safety? Not that there will ever be safety again after this genocide. Again, if you were Palestinian, would you forgive?
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A few rockets? Hamas has fired thousands of rockets at Israel since October 7.
You compare the Holocaust to the persecution of Wiccans? I don’t think I have anything more to say to you.
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How many Israelis have been killed by those rockets? A few dozen? These “rockets” are little more than glorified fireworks. Meanwhile, Israel has dropped thousands of tons of missiles and high explosives (including bunker busters and white phosphorus) on Gaza, killing at least 20,000, over two thirds of whom are women and children. Funny how you only care about Israeli civilians.
And, yes, witches (and accused “witches”) have been slaughtered in mass numbers throughout history since King James decided you should “not suffer a witch to live”. But I guess that’s okay too, as long as they’re not Jews, right?
I don’t really have anything to say to you either except that people like you are the reason this genocide is allowed to continue and history will judge you for it.
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A think when someone uses biased language like “few” in this case, it reveals their willing ignorance not to fact check.
Rocket and mortar attacks against Israel have been well documented all the way back to January 2001.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-rocket-and-mortar-attacks-against-israel
This is a chance for an ignorant and allegedly biased individual to erase that ignorance and never use the word “few” again when talking about rocket fired at Israel.
Click the link and read every entry, from top to bottom. It will take awhile.
How did I find that site?
I Googled the topic and searched for the most reliable source.
That’s called fact checking. In this case, it wasn’t my first visit to this site. I’ve used it before when attempting to erase willingly ignorant bias.
I didn’t take the time to add the number of rockets that have been fired from Gaza into Israel but that number is in the THOUSANDS.
To make it easy, at the top of some years, starting in 2002, there is an annual total with incidents listed in detail below that top row.
For 2023, between October 7 – November 14, more than 12,000 rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel.
2008, January – December, a total of 3,107 rockets and mortars were fired at Israel.
In 2007, that total was 2,807
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Lloyd Lofthouse
Too modest Lloyd. That number if I remember correctly is 30,000 since 2005 when Israel pulled out of Gaza “INDISCRIMINATELY” aimed at population centers. How many attempted attacks foiled would it take in this country for the B52s to be flying. Try to envision air raid sirens going off in American Cities and people heading for shelters 30,000 times.
So lets see: Ilhan Omar addressing a conference on discrimination against Muslim Americans 17 years after 9/11 , makes a simple true assertion. Because “some people did something does not mean that all Muslims are responsible”.
Simple enough , the Nation went bat sh!t crazy . 9/11 was a few poor man’s missile attacks on one day that worked beyond the wildest dreams of Bin Laden.
( Which by the way we had long known that Al-Qaeda planned to crash 20 planes into buildings around the world from the Eiffel Tower to the trade Center. We thought it was aspirational )
The other ignorant assertion from our resident Putin supporter who all but justified the deaths of 500,000 civilians in Syria was that Israel a well equipped Military is fighting a rag tag group of rebels / terrorists. True enough tell that to the French and the American soldiers 58,000 of whom lost their lives in a guerilla war.
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I have read that, following the events of October 7, many Israelis perceive that there is, for the first time in half a century, a grave threat to Israel’s existence. This perception is reasonable.
Much as I detest and deplore the actions of this and most previous Israeli governments, I do not want Israel to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
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Sadly, Hamas does not and never has accepted Israel’s existence.
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It’s Israel that has never accepted Palestine’s existence. More and more evidence is being uncovered showing that ethnic cleansing has been the goal all along.
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Yes, indeed. And although the Palestinian Authority now does accept Israel’s existence, the Israeli government does not accept the PA’s acceptance of Israel’s existence.
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dienne77
Refresh my memory. As 500 thousand civilians were killed in Syria weren’t you defending Assad and Putin.
As heart breaking as the 20,000 deaths in Gaza are when put into perspective the population of Hamburg in 1943 was 700k . 40 k were killed over 3 days of bombing .. That is what targeting Civilians looks like. On March 24th and 25th 1945 the population of Tokyo had reduced to 2.5 million about the same as Gaza. The bombing of Tokyo on those 2 days and nights killed 100k. That is what targeting civilians looks like . Not 20k over 10 weeks of urban fighting.
The Humanitarian crisis and the deaths of Woman Children and elderly men could all have been avoided had Egypt been as accepting of Palestinians as the US has been of Asylum seekers (in spite of the right ). Israel was pressing for temporary humanitarian zones with a guaranteed right of return. The whole strip is only 25 miles long . Not exactly wandering the desert for 40 years or crossing the Mediterranean in small boats. .
This was back in late October. . After Egypt rejected the request directly from Israel .
“Israel has quietly tried to build international support in recent weeks for the transfer of several hundred thousand civilians from Gaza to Egypt for the duration of its war in the territory, according to six senior foreign diplomats.
Israeli leaders and diplomats have privately proposed the idea to several foreign governments, framing it as a humanitarian initiative that would allow civilians to temporarily escape the perils of Gaza for refugee camps in the Sinai Desert, just across the border in neighboring Egypt.”
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Joel,
Thanks for calling out dienne77’s hypocrisy, antisemitism, and her approval of the deaths of 100x as many people as long as it is Putin and Assad who are responsible for those deaths.
I have yet to hear her condemn Hamas. Just like she won’t condemn Putin.
But she does somehow seem to believe that she lives in the US because she deserves to live here, even though she is only here because others were displaced and murdered so brutally and sickeningly that very few of them survived.
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Rockets equivalent to fireworks
Just admit you don’t like Jews.
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Pturetired,
I agree with you.
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If you can’t distinguish the barbarous ethnostate of Israel from the Jewish people, you are the antisemitic ones. Many of the pro-Palestinian protests have been led by Jewish groups appalled at what’s happening in their name.
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If Israel (whose population is 20% non-Jewish) is an “ethnostate,” what do you call the Muslim nations? The ones where everyone is Muslim and Jews were expelled years ago? Are they ethnostates too?
You just don’t like Jews.
You can be Jewish and criticize Israel. It happens often. But most Jews don’t want the Jewish state to be eliminated, as Hamas does.
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The “comments” section has been unavailable to me. Don’t know why. Here’s my comment:
Thank you Diane. Pretty much what I think, too. Here is my take on N’ war aims:
Paul Lauter Allan K. & Gwendolyn Miles Smith Professor of Literature (Emeritus) Trinity College (Hartford) web page: Paul-Lauter.com e-mail: paul.lauter@trincoll.edu Mobile: 1-646-824-8538 (prefer)
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Thank you, Diane. Pretty much what I think. Here is my take on N’s war aims:
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Like Trump, Netanyahu is using the war (in Trump’s case, the election) to delay his trials for corruption. I.e. to stay out of jail.
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Omg the election was stolen, trumo won 2016 . Clinton did not want to appeal and all you guys said trump lost trump cheated trump russian agent, lol losers.
Why didnt you want the states to review? So many discrepencies, mail in fruad, mules, ballots being harvested, ruby stuffing georgia. Truth is coming.
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Thank you, Diane. Rarely do I agree wholeheadedly with everything in 10 or more consecutive words anyone says or writes, including myself. Your post is such a rarity. Your bill of particulars against Netanyahoo! should be published in every news source and posted on every telephone pole next to the KIDNAPPED posters.
One more loverly tidbit: Netanyahoo! is desperate to retain power in order to slow down or prevent his being convicted and shipped off to the hoosegow. Sound familiar, my fellow Americans?
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May I reblog this?
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Nan, yes.
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Bravo, Diane….I’m sending this to everyone I know
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Re “I hold Hamas responsible for the egregious atrocities that ignited the war.” So this is the starting point? Gaza seems to have been subject to myriad actions that I would refer to as acts of war prior to that point, so, this is just one incident in a long string of atrocities.
And as to “innocents” slaughtered on Oct. 7, the Israeli government posted the names of those killed and almost half had military ratings, so hardly “innocent citizens.” Israel later bragged that they were keeping the numbers of civilians killed down close to 2X the number of “soldiers” killed (a suspect statistic in itself), well Hamas was close to 1:1 soldiers and civilians on Oct 7. That is hardly “not targeted.”
Plus, both sides lie so prolifically it is hard to accept anything at face value. Just as Osama Bin Laden wanted to draw the U.S. into a war in the Middle East that would drain our coffers and lives of our soldiers, Hamas is doing the same, leading Israel’s conservatives to actions that will destroy their standing in the international community.
A pox on both their houses.
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Thanks for sharing, strongly agree with you
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Netanyahu and his senior Cabinet members bear official responsibility for the appalling lapses in intelligence and security that allowed the October 7 attacks to succeed far beyond what Hamas leaders anticipated. Netanyahu is also responsible for allowing the West Bank settlements that are an insuperable obstacle to any eventual peace deal.
But Netanyahu may survive the post-war era depending on what the upcoming official investigation concludes about who was responsible for the debacle on October 7. Netanyahu believed that Hamas could be pacified, that they weren’t a serious threat to Israel at that time; so did many Israeli officials outside the Netanyahu government. Senior level IDF and Shin Bet officials agreed with that assessment of Hamas. The government that preceded the current Netanyahu administration pretty much had the same approach to the Hamas threat.
So although the Netanyahu government had official responsibility – they were in power – most of the opposition may have, and probably did have, the same ideas about Hamas, now proven to be disastrously mistaken. And Israel is now a strongly united country, with all segments of the population other than Israeli Arabs and far Left Jews supporting the military campaign in Gaza. A recent poll revealed that Israeli voters have moved strongly to the Right on security issues, while also favoring a generous welfare state.
The fundamental problem is that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians do not want a two state solution; they want a one-state solution with Israeli Jews either being driven out, killed, or subject to an Islamic theocracy. No matter how dovish any future Israeli government is, there will be no peace until the Palestinians recognize the right of Israeli Jews to live within secure borders, with a democratic – not theocratic – government.
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Please see below for a comment on your reply. Apologies for not placing it with the reply itself.
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On what evidence do you base the assertion, “[T]he fundamental problem is that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians do not want a two state solution; they want a one-state solution with Israeli Jews either being driven out, killed, or subject to an Islamic theocracy”?
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Recent polling in Palestinian areas has confirmed what I wrote. At least 72% of them support the October 7 attack by Hams; Hamas vows to destroy Israel. I link to one news source among many others that are readily available.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%2C%20Dec%2013%20(Reuters),respected%20Palestinian%20polling%20institute%20found.
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Thank you. I notice, away from the headline, a statement calling into question the claim that the “fundamental problem” is the collective will of the Palestinian people. To wit:
“The PCPSR found that, compared to pre-war polling, support for Hamas had risen in Gaza and more than tripled in the West Bank.”
Might the Israeli response to the October 7 atrocities, including the killing of 1% of the Gaza population, the displacement of some three fourths of them from their homes, the destruction of some 50% or so of Gaza’s infrastructure, and the Israeli prime minister’s steadfast refusal to consider a Palestinian state, have something to do with the spike in support for Hamas?
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Diane, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I support your effort to provide a space for people to express their views. Jack Hassard
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Thank you, Jack.
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Thank you, Diane. As always, you lead with wisdom and courage.
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Dear Diane, I’m very glad you’ve laid out your feelings and your reasoning about this horrific situation.
I was born in Europe and also lost many relatives in death camps during the Holocaust. I have cousins in Israel. I grew up in an anti-Semitic neighborhood in New York and know that anti-Semitism lives on.
But I think you’ve left out one big aspect of the situation: Every person has equal rights and Israel is not recognizing that.
When I was a teenager, I belonged for a while to a Zionist youth movement called Hashomer Hatzair, which believed in a binational state in which all people would have equal rights. Jews would not have priority. That dream was probably not realistic.
If Mexican immigrants to Texas or any other state announced they were going to create a Mexican nation there, they would probably not be welcomed. Okay, Mexicans do have their own country. But what if Roma were to decide that a piece of India, where they come from, would be their country? The current residents would not appreciate it. So I think the original mistake was the idea of “a land without people for a people without land”: That land had people. And those people — mostly Arabs, some Jews, and some people of other groups — all had the same rights as human beings everywhere.
When Arab countries invaded Israel in 1948, Palestinians were living there. I’ve heard the claim that most of the refugees left on their own. I don’t know whether there’s any truth to that — I doubt it. But whether they left of their own accord or were expelled by Jewish militias is irrelevant. If I leave home for any reason, I don’t give up my right to my house, and the Palestinians didn’t sign over their rights to their homes and their land.
If Israel feels they are too much of a security threat and can’t be let back in, they could at least offer compensation. In some situations, my government could take my house and my land by eminent domain, but I would be entitled to compensation.
If the many billions of dollars that the United States has given Israel for weapons were instead offered to Palestinians as compensation for losing their homes, that would do a lot more to bring security to Israel. And that’s without the Jewish families that moved into those Arab homes even paying a penny for them.
With all the deaths since then, maybe it’s too late for that to work. But as you point out, killing isn’t helping.
I’ve heard the counterargument that many Jews were expelled from Arab countries in the wake of the 1948 war and the Jews were not compensated. That’s true, but individual Palestinians didn’t benefit from that.
If Iraqi Jews had responded to their expulsion by launching terrorist attacks on Iraqi Arabs, they would not have been justified. But I think most people would see their expulsion as relevant, and would say those Jews had a right to return and at the very least deserved compensation.
Israel needs to recognize that all human beings have equal rights. Any solution, if one is still possible, has to start from that universal principle.
Alain Jehlen
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Alain,
I don’t know how to rewrite history, and not many people in any country are willing to do so.
I certainly agree with you that all human beings have equal rights.
What I also believe is that the only way forward is to stop terrorism and to have good-faith negotiations among the concerned parties. Arguing about who has a stronger claim on the land is a dead end. Does the clock start in 800 BC or 200 AD or 1935 or 1948?
Negotiations begin by the parties engaging in good faith.
The starting point should be a goal of establishing two independent states in which all citizens have equal rights.
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Thank you, Diane!
We’re not far apart and maybe not apart at all.
I think individuals have a right to their land and to their homes. That clock, for the Palestinian Arabs, starts in 1948, or later in the West Bank. Those are the rights I believe have to recognized.
As to which nationality can set the tone of the country, that depends on who lives there. But each individual still has rights, regardless of their nationality.
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Alain, neither you nor anyone else can turn the clock back to 1948. Israel exists and will continue to exist. There will be no “right of return” for the descendants of Palestinians who lost their homes, just as there is no “right of return” for native Americans who lost their homes to European setlers. The native Americans who owned the island of Manhattan allegedly sold it for the equivalent of $24. They were cheated. And they no longer own the land.
The world changes. There are historical injustices that are ignored. The US paid modest reparations to Japanese-Americans who were arrested and sent to internment camps during World War II. It was nowhere near what they lost. Descendants of slaves have sought reparations, because they were surely injured by the harms inflicted on their ancestors. We will see how that goes. Surely it’s easier to pay reparations than to hand the area from 14th Street to 59th street in Manhattan to the descendants of Native tribes who were cheated.
I’m not sure where the argument over who was there first takes you.
I do think there must be a good plan moving forward that is just and fair and creates the conditions for a lasting peace.
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Alain, you’re in fantasy land. It’s not going to happen. Even if Israel were so inclined, there is no negotiator on behalf of “Palestine” who is willing to make that happen or able to make the deal stick.
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A question that is perhaps tangential: Is it not now enshrined in Israeli law that Israeli citizens of Palestinian origin no longer have rights equal to those of Israeli Jews?
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FLERP,
I’m afraid the fantasy is believing that the Palestinians will accept dispossession with no serious consequences for the dispossessors. So, far, that’s not working out too well.
But I admit, it’s probably also a fantasy to think a majority of Israelis will finally take responsibility for the dispossession — “facing history and ourselves,” as an excellent Jewish educational organization might put it.
If they’re both fantasies, the future just holds more death. The country that was supposed to be the safe refuge for us Jews turns out to be not so safe.
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I say make Nebraska the new Jewish homeland!
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I didn’t say the current path is going to work out well. Sadly I’m pretty convinced nothing is going to work out well in that region.
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I want to point out that at least one country that isn’t Israel has had a positive view of the Jewish people going back millennia.
During WWII, Jewish refugees who knew this headed to China from all over Europe. I’m not talking about everyone in China, but as a rule, there is a shared perception of a Jewish Chinese identity.
China.
https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1027&context=student_research
https://thechinaproject.com/2020/05/07/why-does-china-admire-the-jews-2/
What Jews and the Chinese have in common — BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26067154
This history doesn’t mean bias and racism doesn’t exist in China. It does and sometimes Jews are targets of that ignorant hate.
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Lloyd,
A significant number of European Jews fled to Shanghai, where they spent the war.
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Wow, Lloyd. Fascinating. I had no idea.
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That essay by the student is fascinating, Lloyd!!!!
A story:
Years ago, when I was a baby editor, I was working for an educational publishing house and writing a “thematic exercise set” for a grammar lesson. I chose as my theme for this exercise set, Great Thinkers of the 20th Century. To prepare for writing it, I listed a bunch of fields of endeavor. And next to each I wrote the name of the person whom I thought most revolutionized that field in the twentieth century.
Music: Arnold Schoenberg
Physics: Albert Einstein
Painting: Pablo Picasso
Anthropology: Claude Lévi-Strauss
Philosophy: Ludwig Wittgenstein
. . .
Linguistics: Noam Chomsky
Popular Song: Irving Berlin
Political Theorist: Karl Marx
Jazz Composer: George Gershwin OR Miles Davis
Medical Doctor: Jonas Salk
Conductor: Leonard Bernstein
Feminist Leader: Betty Friedan
Mathematician: John van Neumann
Literary Scholar: tie between Harold Bloom and George Steiner
And so on. When I finished (I was not trying to make an exhaustive list; I only needed 10-15 names), I looked back over my list and ONLY ONE, or one and a half, lol, of the names on it was not Jewish (my choice for most influential/revolutionary painter). This was so even though Jews make up only about 0.2 percent of the world population.
Admittedly, this is not a scientific study, but I was flabbergasted. What was going on here? So, I started thinking about this. Here’s what I came up with: All during what we used to call the Dark Ages, most of Christian Europe was illiterate, but every Jewish boy learned to read and write at least a little. Scholarship and scholarly debate have always been prized among Jews (an outgrowth of Talmudic study). Jews, due to the diaspora, have long been outcasts, foreigners, in the lands they lived in, which perhaps encouraged them not to think like everyone else but to have original ideas.
What a people!!! Wow.
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Good morning Diane and everyone,
This is a quote from Paul Knitter’s book WIthout Buddha I Could Not Be a Christian. I think about it a lot.
“This Buddhist ability to transcend incredibly and, for Christians, to transcend scandalously the past and the demands of justice and to focus all their mindfulness and responsiveness on the present moment was illustrated stunningly at a meeting of the Interreligious Peace Council in Israel/Palestine in 2000. We had spent more than a week listening to the grievances, the fears, the angers of both Palestinians and Israelis. We were gathered with students and teachers at Hebrew Union College in Jerusalem, on Holocaust Memorial Day, after an emotionally wrenching ceremony remembering the victims of Nazi terror. In our subsequent discussions we heard the Jewish participants talk of the “need to remember,” never to forget, so that “never again” will such horrors occur. As the conversation flowed easily back and forth, Geshe Sopa, TIbetan monk and scholar, raised his hand and then quietly but forthrightly asked the Dean of the College “But why do you have to remember?”
After an awkward, almost horrified moment of silence, Geshe continued, “What would happen if you let go of such memories of suffering?” He went on to speak about the sufferings the TIbetan people are enduring from the Chinese, adding that what is important now, in the moment, is not to cling to memories of the past but to understand that the Chinese are acting out of the ignorance that results from bad karma. The reaction that follows such understanding is compassion. “The main thing is to have compassion for mistakes made from an egocentric viewpoint, from ignorance…The Chinese are now earning terrible karma for what they are doing to us. We must feel compassion for all who are suffering, on both sides.We don’t look at the Chinese as evil, but try to find a peaceful solution and make them happy and peaceful.
Unfortunately, but also understandably, there was no further discussion of Geshe’s question and suggestion. It was so different, so unimagined , that it was, probably, not understood. A similar silence was the response a few days later when Geshe made a similar statement to the director of the Deheishe Camp for Palestinian refugees. To let go of angers from the past and fears for the future in order to be free of them and so fully present is something very different for us Christians and Westerners to understand. Or perhaps we’re afraid to understand.”
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There is a big difference between keeping enough of yourself in reserve to be content in the present moment and forgetting the past. The past is there to teach and inform us. We must not forget it. Consider, for example, Donald Trump. He is ignorant of everything that ever happened. Is that state of empty mindedness something to value and emulate? I do not think so.
THE lesson of the 20th century is that something like the Holocaust can happen, that in the right circumstances, people, even educated, cultured people, can behave like this.
Never forget that.
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Bob– but note that the monk in Mamie’s cite does not say “forget the past.” He says “let go of memories of suffering,” and “let go of angers from the past and fears for the future in order to be free from them and so fully present.” It’s like psychotherapy: only in understanding and bringing compassion to the suffering of all involved can we let go of the anger and fear that causes us to continually reproduce those circumstances. The process itself is a study of past events, and the evils humans are capable of.
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We tend to think that by changing the world around – building walls, making laws, making borders, etc that that will create peace. But peace will not come until the individual finds it in himself or herself first. That is possible and the only way . We cannot find anything in the outer world that we don’t find in ourselves first.
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Then he and I are of one mind on this.
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Manie– I can relate to the book’s title. In college I learned the rudiments of Buddhism while studying Asian Art History. Also had a couple of close friends who did residential training at a Zen center. Aware that my sense of Christianity was unconventional, I sought out other philosophies and religions that “fit” with my spiritual beliefs. Buddhism is a pretty good fit with such passages as “Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord,” “Forgive them for they know not what they do,” and many more.
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Trump’s sound bite for his followers, contrasted with media’s photo op of Jared and Ivanka Kushner for his campaign donors-
Trump uses Hitler’s language about poisoning of blood. Then, Jared and Ivanka show up in Israel sympathizing with Israelis – damage control for the self-serving wealthy, Republican political donors, in a religious minority, who want to believe the majority GOP won’t turn against Jews.
Just my opinion.
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omg Linda you are long gone, keep listening to the cia liberal media turned your brain into mush. Trump has jewish grandkids and assholes keep calling him a nazi, when the nazis are obama, bushs , clintons.
Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and last time I checked no wars, wow what a dictator. retribution is coming to all the traitors and llopyd brain might finally explode and he wll go bye bye!
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omg Linda you are long gone, keep listening to the cia liberal media turned your brain into mush. Trump has jewish grandkids and assholes keep calling him a nazi, when the nazis are obama, bushs , clintons.
Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and last time I checked no wars, wow what a dictator. retribution is coming to all the traitors and llopyd brain might finally explode and he wll go bye bye!
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When you use words like “retribution is coming”, you sound like a terrorist making threats similar to what the right wing gun nuts do before they mow down innocent people – including children. “Retribution is coming” is the language that you NEVER hear on this blog except by the right wing Trump and Putin supporters. They have made it clear that if Trump is elected, he will do to us the same thing Putin does to anyone who crosses him. Sorry, “Ants” but your ugly language speaks for itself.
Ant PROMISES us that if we join him in voting for Trump, people like Obama and his followers will experience RETRIBUTION. We can help Ants by empowering Trump and his folloowers to get RETRIBUTION on so-called “traitors” like Obama.
Trump did say that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his followers would be good with it.
“Ants” just proved it was true. Ants says they are “traitors” and “retribution” is what Trump and Ants promises if we all join Ants and support Trump and Putin.
Ants, why don’t you move to Russia if you like it when people you don’t like get RETRIBUTION? Why do you want America to be like Putin’s Russia?
I hope “Ants” is investigated and their identity revealed, for their ugly threats against Obama and others.
I have never heard a Trump critic threatening “retribution”, but the Trump supporters make those ugly threats all the time. They promote this ugly vision of “retribution” against their perceived enemies (like Obama) and promise us if Trump wins, we can be sure that anyone who didn’t support Trump or dared to criticize him will be severely punished or perhaps “disappeared”.
Ants tells Trump supporters that not even their children or relatives are safe from that “retribution” if they dare to criticize Trump.
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What’s with the pathology of Obama hatred among the Putin-loving, Tucker Carlson crowd?
Sane people let go of hostility towards past presidents and vice-presidents.
Maybe the sane should trot out vile comments about the Bush duo and Cheney in order to show GOP commenters how a demonstration of a lack of mental health erodes credibility.
The admonition to “try to focus” comes to mind as wise advice for Ants and his shadow, big Mike.
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The troll is posting today with four different names: Big Mike, Ants, Judges corrupt, and MAGA.
Wearisome. Boring. Stupid.
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