Bob Shepherd, our blog polymath, reviews the current status and likely future of The Former Guy.
So, there are two kinds of Trump voters.
First, there are the Trumpanzees, true disciples of the Trump cult, some of whom show up on this blog from time to time to espouse some utterly lunatic notions from the Qanon-o-sphere: Trump won the 2020 election, Joe Biden sits atop a vast criminal empire, Hilary Clinton leads an international pedophile ring, Ukraine is run by Nazis, George Soros funds caravans of rapists and murderers who are overwhelming our borders, and so on. That’s about 60 percent of the Trump base. I say “notions” above, btw, because when a Trumpanzee talks or writes in imitation of the toddler English of the cult’s Glorious Leader, it all comes out in a geyser of crazy conspiracy theories, one after another in rapid succession, sounding very much like some bizarre political catechism from a low-budget Exorcist remake. These Trumpanzee ‘merkins think that Trump stands between them and black and brown people who hate EVERYTHING GOOD–America, Jesus, apple pie, guns. They think that Trump actually is a self-made billionaire and a Christian nationalist and that he gives a damn about them. He doesn’t.
Second, there are the Repugnican doctrinaire pragmatists who have been holding their noses since the escalator ride down to new lows in American politics. These are evangelicals, Libertarians, and other supporters of Reich-wing policies like outlawing abortion, eliminating social services for the poor, regressive taxation, building a wall to keep out immigrants, giving companies the freedom to pollute at will, enabling the assertion of a right to religious bigotry in public fora, banning books from libraries, withdrawal from international treaties and obligations, and so on, who know Trump for what he is–an amoral career criminal and conman, a seditious, dishonest, irreligious, murderous, traitorous, profoundly ignorant and stupid RICO boss who can nonetheless be counted on to sign ANY piece of Reich-wing legislation put in front of him. So, while Trump might not actually be against abortion (he vociferously supported it in the past when he was trying and failing at being a playboy), he will do whatever the Reich-wing wants because he doesn’t care about anything except adulation from his base and, of course, extracting money from Trumpanzees. So, that’s the Hold-Your-Nose-ers, the Trumpeteers, the other 40 percent of the Trumplings.
So, because of the size of the Trumpanzee cult, it appears at present (that is, ever since Ron DeSantis basically threw away his opportunity of a lifetime because he evidently has the political instincts and charm of a rabid coyotes or parasitic wasp larvae) that no one has any chance of winning the 2024 Repugnican Presidential nomination EXCEPT Trump, so most of the Nose-holder Trumplings now have two choices: they can hope against hope that The Loser will pull off another 2016 victory-by-a-hair-on-the-end-of-an-Adderall-covered-orange-schnoz OR that he will be convicted and sent to prison before the election so that someone else can run in his stead.
Meanwhile, the Orange One has been using increasingly martial rhetoric (against judges and prosecutors, no less!). Having lost the defamation case brought against him by E. Jean Carroll and having been determined in that case by a jury and judge to have committed rape, he now has been indicted on 78 felony charges, with many more in the pipeline. His choices are limited. Trump can liquidate his assets and board the Trump plane to Russia to stay under the wing of his dying handler, the kleptocratic state Mafia boss, defenestrater of dissidents, and now indicted international war criminal Tsar Vladimir Putin, or he can whip up his base to carry out an actual Civil War. We know, now, that Trump was furious that he was not allowed by his own Secret Service to go with the mob to the Capitol and fulfill his fantasy of being an actual martial leader. And we’ve known for a long, long time that he is a delusional madman. Perhaps, in extremis, he is actually starting to believe that there can be a coup, an insurrection, that can bring him to power. For even he, crazy as he is, knows that HE CANNOT WIN IN 2024. He has lost and lost and lost in the past, and he has even less support now. He wishes he could win. Then he could pardon himself and crawl back under the protection of presidential immunity. But he can’t.
So, how does this play out?
I suspect that the more moderate right-wingers, KNOWING that he will lose in 2024, are working behind the scenes right now to make sure that he is convicted of high crimes and misdemeanors before the election and thus made ineligible for the presidency. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some wealthy Repugnican donors are, even as you read this, calling up disaffected members of the former Trump team (which would be almost all of them, lol) and saying, “Let’s get this guy out of the way so we can win; cooperate with the investigations.”
Meanwhile, ex-cadet Bone Spurs is at Mar-a-lago or Bedminster fantasizing about leading a Civil War against Jack and Tanya and Alvin and Fani and the Marxists and about millions of members of the Trumpanzee Citizens’ Militia turning out to make him Glorious Leader for Life–January 6th having been a dress rehearsal, his Beer Hall Putsch, prior to the main event.
Here’s the thing: It ain’t gonna happen. The Trumpanzees have seen what happens when they actually put themselves on the line for him: he doesn’t join them, and he doesn’t save them. They go down. He goes to lunch and golf.
“I’ll call it a day,” the con man did say,
“I’m still president anyway.”
Then he farted and stood
and called it all good,
and went to his golf course to play.
What if he gave a coup and it didn’t happen?
I guess we would then have people debating whether he should be charged and prosected and sent to prison for THAT.

I object to the metaphor. I happen to consider parasitic wasp larvae quite charming, while finding myself unable to stomach the mere thought of Ron DeSantis.
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To be perfectly accurate , the comparison of Trump to parasitic wasp larvae is a MAGAphor.
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Great analysis, Bob! I especially like “Trumpanzee!” “Repugnican” is good, too, though you might want to consider my own term I use for Trump and the other hoods who seem to dominate his party: “Rethuglican.”
I’m praying to God–er, earnestly hoping (I’m agnostic)–you’re right that the Trumpers will fade away. Some good evidence for that is here in Ohio, where former governor Taft (still a big name in Ohio) and the anti-union, right-winger posing as a “moderate” on Fox, John Kasich, both actively opposed the Rethuglican attempt to ensnare Ohio voters in a regressive supermajority rule for changing the state constitution.
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“I guess we would then have people debating whether he should be charged and prosected and sent to prison for THAT.
If Trump were “prosected” would it even be necessary to send him to prison?
I could be wrong (have been before — once), but I am assuming “prosected” is something like dissected (dissected by a professional?) or drawn and quartered.
Just to be clear, I don’t endorse such a punishment for even the worst of offenses. I find the whole idea barbaric.
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I thought of “prosected” as an amalgam of “protected” and “prosecuted”, and hope he won’t be protected from prosecution (prosected).
My guess is in the brilliant, frantic flow of ideas there was an understandable typo.
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A typo. But it turns out that “prosected” meaning “dissected beforehand.” And thanks, Catherine!
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cx: means
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OK, but what happens from now through the 2024 election is not entirely dependent on what Republican leaders and their followers do. It is also contingent on what Democrats running for office say to potential voters–not just appealing anti-Trumpism but actually addressing the daily struggles and insecurity of working people. Most important it will be determined by how well the rest of organize a multi-racial movement to pressure Democrats to stand for renters and would-be home owners, not landlords and developers; to stand for public schools, not the privatizers; to stand for people’s health, not the insurance and drug industry; etc., etc.
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This, although I’d say what they do is more important than what they say.
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I agree with you that Democrats should always appeal to working class voters. Sadly no one informed much of the(white) working class that they are working class.
Or as Jay Gould said : “I could pay half the working class to kill the other half ” Hasn’t changed since.
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Claas identification aside, people know when they are struggling to make ends meet and when their wellbeing is ignored. Resentment is the Republican answer. Dems need a better alternative.
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Arthur Camins
One of the first pieces of Legislation Biden passed was a bailout of the Multi Employer Pension system. Doing so as a part of the American Rescue Plan. The vast majority of those Funds are in Union Construction. That killed Republican legislation that would have forced cuts in all these plans solvent or not . After 4 years of Infrastructure weeks the next major piece of legislation Biden passes is the Infrastructure Bill. Federal Infrastructure for the most part is Prevailing Wage work which makes the work more likely to be Union. After passing he mandates Union Project Labor agreements on all projects over $35 million. Another bonus for Union construction workers. That is followed by the Chips act more work building Chip Factories and again mostly Union. Lastly we have the Inflation Reduction Act that incentivized Green Energy ,onshore, offshore wind and solar projects. Again more work in construction and again it will be mainly Union.
Now I should say Biden and a Democratic Congress passed all this work. In 2016 95% of the Construction Union leadership came out for Clinton. Yet 70% of the membership voted for Donald “I love Right to Work” Trump” In 2020 I don’t believe that changed much even after Trump refused to endorse Davis Bacon in his infrastructure proposals and failed at over 200 weeks of infrastructure weeks.
In 2022 the most heavily Unionized borough in NYC. Mostly Public Workers and Construction workers votes for a Republican Congresswoman first elected in 2020 who did not vote for the Pro Act (only 5 Republicans in the house did). This after Trump appointed Judges assault Public Sector Unions in the Janus Decision. They Voted for her over Max Rose a moderately progressive Democrat.
Nor did she vote for any other of the pieces of Legislation I mentioned.
None of this legislation has moved the needle
The working class is its own worst enemy.
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So, why is this, Joel? Why are the U.S. and Great Britain the only advanced industrialized democracies in which workers TYPICALLY vote against themselves? And what can be done to change this? It kills me to see blue-collar folks voting against their own interests. It’s so F’d up.
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Bob Shepherd
I wish I knew. Personal observation, it is about race. “Tell the poorest White Man that he is better than the best(est) Black man and he will empty his pockets for you”. LBJ
Boy did Obama screw that up . Thus he could not possibly have been born here (been legitimate).
In 1968 internal polls in October at the UAW showed 28 % voting for Wallace until Curtis LeMay told America Radiation was good for their Children (or close enough). They all deny it is about race. But you can see which posts and memes they react to on FB.
Its not all of the White Working Class by any means but far too much. They have been played like a fiddle forever.
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That will be the day
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“even he, crazy as he is, knows that HE CANNOT WIN IN 2024”
Many of the polls show Trump and Biden in a virtual dead heat.
I don’t take much stock in polls (especially this far out), but I also would not be certain Trump can not win. He seems to get more support with each additional indictment, which is also why DeSantis can’t compete.
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I reflect that 80 million voters did not vote for DJT in ‘20. There will be four more years’ worth of 18-year olds newly registered; I hope a majority will vote for Biden. Some of those who voted for DJT in ‘20 may have a different opinion after Jan 6.
Also, I just learned from a Sunday show that 27,000 Georgia voters skipped voting for Prez on their ‘20 ballots.
But 3rd party candidates concern me.
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I’ve always been a fan of the sticky two-party system considering a third party can always be swayed to go with one or the other of the two major parties thus giving a super-majority to one party, but our winner takes all system is making me rethink this stance. Thom Hartmann had fantastic article just the other day on third party voting and how it can do harm in such a divisive era as we are in now. He proposed proportional representation which is a smashing idea. Everyone gets a voice.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/why-cant-i-vote-for-cornell-west-665?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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Multiple Guess
Meaningful Change follows:
A) STRONGER Adjectives
B) Name Calling
C) Spotlighting
D) NoBunny Nose Dance
E) Word Clouds
F) Scolding Blog Posters
G) Divining Minds
H) Predicting the Future
If the “reaction” to all
this “action”, brings about
meaningful change, then
Bob’s your uncle…
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Oh yes, Nobrick. Utter silence is so much more effective politically. ROFLMAO.
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They send him money. They buy his stuff. And, like Bob said, they think he gives a damn about them. This defendant just keeps the BS coming. He is a “history buff”, huh, for the fake.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/history/trumps-golf-course-plaque-honors-fake-civil-war-battle And, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/01/donald-trump-golf-tournament-strength-and-stamina
But wait there’s more…
https://golf.com/lifestyle/celebrities/president-trump-club-championship-did-not-enter/
And if you order now, you could be rich!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/trump-bucks-fake-currency-websites-taken-down
The trumpanzees are living in the Upside Down World.
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Rick Charvet, you are so right.
The ultimate Trump con is persuading regular people that he cares about them.
He doesn’t like to touch them; he’s a germophobe.
He would never invite them inside the gates of Mar-a-Lago.
He’s a world-class snob.
He uses them and does nothing for them.
His singular achievement as president was a big tax cut for the richest.
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His singular achievement was convincing white working class voters they were better than minorities
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Did he actually have to convince them of that?
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@ Diane — First and foremost, I appreciate you listening to what I have to say. We have a new superintendent who just outlined her new goals for the year: Make school a safe space (develop relationships or they will not attend), expand CTE opportunities (like culinary and biomedical) — I helped to make these offerings earn students college credit on their merits, and some other “duh” goals. That’s good. But… I guess when one is not in the upper echelon, their words fall on deaf ears. Oh, well. But more importantly, for nearly 20 years I have been watching, bit by bit, how the proverbial frog is boiling itself. Which begged the question, “What happened to the Roman Empire?” I noticed distinct parallels between America and the Great Roman Empire. And as I dug deeper, the caste systems. I watched television commercials that state, “We cannot send students to school hungry; kids do not have school supplies; kids do not get the same advantages because of their zip code; an Arkansas governor who thinks it’s okay for 13-year-olds to work without their parents’ permission (Are we going back to Great Expectations?), and AP African American studies being banned along with a host of other programs because, well, “The Moms of Liberty” don’t like it. Teachers walk on egg shells because if they taught students to think and the truth, their livelihoods are at stake. Students were sent to school as the great “equalizer” with a plethora of activities to expand their minds and bodies to provide for generations to come — not to blast us back to past. So, once again, to check if my brain was working, I found this article that supports the fall of once a great country, that is, if we all don’t get out of the boiling pot.
The constant cheating, lying, and stealing troubles my soul. Thank you so much for making me feel my words/thoughts are of value. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/american-empire-decline/
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Rick, I read every comment. Yours are always valuable.
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@ diane — Lo and behold, to make my point, Dan Rather wrote this: https://steady.substack.com/p/the-battle-to-save-public-education?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=247881&post_id=136179904&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
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Always appreciate your wise posts, Rick!
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Dear Bob.
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Great piece.
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Thanks, Yvonne!
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So astute and always on point, Bob. I would posit that the second group outside of the Q-Anon crowd is actually two-pronged, itself: White Nationalists and the Morbidly Rich who don’t give have a whit about social issues.
(Posting this comment here as well as your blog, Bob.)
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Well observed, LG!
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“January 6th having been a dress rehearsal, his Beer Hall Putsch, prior to the main event.”
Come on, most of us outside of MAGA know that the traitor doesn’t drink beer. That was a dress rehearsal for Trump’s Diet Pepsi Putsch.
The traitor is probably having nightmares, waking up seat drenched, fearing that if he goes to prison, he won’t get to drink anymore Diet Pepsi or eat his favorite fast food. Being a Diet Pepsi addict, he’ll do anything for his next fix, even destroy the world.
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Trump will never go to jail.
He’s a member of The Club and the other members would never allow it.
Imagine the president it would set.
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I predict he will flee to Moscow first.
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He’d probably flee to Mexico but he’d never make it over his wall.
Especially not in a golf cart.
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Until recently, he could have asked for sanctuary in the Banana Republic of Florida, but now that he has called their two bit dictator DeSsntis a “loser” that option is no longer tenable.
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Shepherd’s language and conspiracy mongering is just as twisted and nasty as anything that emanates from the Republicans. We liberals need to maintain higher standards, not stoop to the Trumpists’ levels.
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How has that worked for 40 years?.
“Pillows are not a match for head shots ever”
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LOL
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Any specific statements made in this piece, John, that you consider to be “conspiracy mongering”? Inquiring minds want to know. My two major contentions,
a. that there are moronic Trump followers who believe all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories and
b. less moronic Trump followers who don’t like the guy but support him in order to get their agendas enacted
seem to me indisputable. So, that’s not “conspiracy mongering”; it’s reporting. And the prediction that Trump isn’t likely to win in 2024, that has warrant. The other contention, that Trump is fantasizing about another coup, well, read his recent “truths,” lol. He has been on a jag lately of calling for violence. So, again, a warranted claim.
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Oh for a muse of fire to equal the depravity and ignorance, the predatory, criminal, seditious vileness of Trump! A challenge, that! Some more choice “language”:
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I left out “rapacious”! Which, given his long history of stealing from working people and the recent court decisions in the E. Jean Carroll case, seems particularly appropriate.
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Haha! This is among my favorite:
“He was all over me like a fly on pence.”
One of the most annoying uses of “Trump” is by MAGAs themselves when they smugly are trying to insult us critical thinkers by saying we suffer from “Trump Derangement Syndrome.” I always thought they were talking about their own deranged minds, but I would not expect them to actually understand the nuance of their own language even if it hit them like a wall north of Mexico.
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Trump and his cult share a manner of seeing the world: they project whatever they do onto those they criticize. Trump warned in 2016 that the election would be “rigged.” That was to protect his ego in case he lost. He did the same in 2020. Since then he has accused his critics of all sorts of things that he does. He is deranged in his constant lying, so of course he calls anyone who calls out his criminal behavior “deranged.” He claims the 2020 election was “stolen” because he tried so hard to steal it. Projection.
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Spot on, Diane. I remember him talking about voter fraud well before his first election causing me to shake my head wondering what in the world he was going on about. Later, as he was doing it again, it absolutely became apparent that he was going to use it as an excuse in case he lost. However, all this time, I thought he was actually going to attempt to rig the election in his favor because he was saying that if he lost, he knew it would be because of voter fraud—not because he didn’t get enough votes. Odd thing for someone to say unless they were fixing it.
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Yeah. He knew he was going to lose.
But this is Trump in a nutshell. He is a walking, breathing, bloviating absurdity–the guy who claims that the election is being stolen from him as he is attempting, by several means, to steal the election.
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LG, exactly.
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Still waiting to hear what conspiracies I have mongered.
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What about the conspiracy to keep Trump out of office that you have been plotting with Diane and Jack Smith?
Admit it, Bob.
You are just a conspiring mongrel.
A plotting pug.
A treacherous terrier.
A mutinous mutt.
A scheming shepherd.
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Let me remind you, SomeDAM, that the First Noel was to certain poor Shepherds.
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I forgot conspiring collie (which is also a shepherd)
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SomeDAM, are you insinuating that Bob is sending dog whistles? I prefer his commentary unleashed, myself.
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@Bob “Bubba” Shepherd, ya all StLl gotta thet MaRketin’ pazchun opAn at “CONspuRacey Genel?” I got ya all some deas bout some thens. We got to do sodden bout those spce lazuurs makin’ heriCanz her on the Wes Coste.
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The Wes Coste is the wurst fer Marxists and other evil doers!
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Bob, that was an analysis with which I agree and a thoroughly entertaining writing style. My two cents: Polls are often wrong in August of the year before an election for president. In August of 2011, the Republican front runner was Herman Cain. August, 2007, Clinton had twice as much support in all the polls than did Obama, and the Republican atop the polls was Rude Giuliani. Howard Dean led in 2003… Jerry Brown, 1991. Jesse Jackson, 1987. Hubert Humphrey…
Trump’s win in 2016 was a fluke. No way he’s still in the lead a year from now. The polls are wrong again.
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I agree about the polls being inaccurate, especially this far out.
But lots of people were sure Trump would lose bigly in 2016.
Unfortunately, being sure was their biggest mistake.
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The polls were in Hillary’s favor in 2016 until James Comey announced before the election that the FBI was reopening an investigation of her emails. When he closed the investigation a week later, having found nothing, the damage was done. And we got a gigantic narcissist who knew nothing about governing in the White House, four years of chaos, and a hard-right Supreme Court that overturned women’s right to control their body.
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The polls were in Clinton’s favor right up until the election.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/
And polls actually underestimated Trump’s support.
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SDP, Diane Ravitch is correct. Your reference that you linked to is a Pew Research article written a day after the election instead of the comprehensive Pew Research article that came out in May 2017 after the complete results came in and there was real data instead of speculation.
And this later article that I mentioned above confirms exactly the points that Diane Ravitch made:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/05/04/qa-political-polls-and-the-2016-election/
“The report notes that, while the national polls generally came pretty close to the actual nationwide popular vote (which Clinton won by 2.1 percentage points over Trump), the performance of polls at the state level – where presidential elections actually are decided – was a lot spottier. What reasons did you find for that?
We found evidence for multiple potential causes. One factor that I think affected everybody who was polling in the battleground states, is the legitimate late change in voter preference in the last week before Election Day. The data on this has its limitations, but the best source is the National Election Pool’s exit poll, which has a question about when voters made up their minds about who to vote for in the presidential race. That showed several roughly 20-point swings in favor of Trump among voters making their mind up in the final week. You didn’t really see that nationally, but in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and even Florida, you saw what looks like dramatic movement.
That’s sort of a good news/bad news finding for pollsters. The good news is, if you interviewed people at a certain point in time and they changed their mind several days later, the poll wouldn’t have detected that. That’s not a flaw in the poll, other than perhaps with the field period in which the pollster decided to do the data collection. But there’s fundamentally nothing that was necessarily off if what was generating most of the error was just honest-to-goodness changes of opinion.”
Changes of opinion because James Comey was forced by the rabidly pro-Trump FBI leaks to smear the Democrat, while at the very same time the NYT was reporting that the FBI/Justice Department had completely exonerated Trump of all wrongdoing after a thorough and comprehensive investigation. The Democrat is falsely smeared, the Republican is falsely exonerated all in the so-called “liberal” media. And that late breaking news tipped voters in just enough swing states to swing the election. Along with targeted voter repression tactics in those very same swing states.
But note that the national poll accuracy means that the polls OVERestimated Trump’s support in other states where he lost by even bigger margins than expected. Mainly states with more educated voters that didn’t practice voter repression tactics. States where many thousands of traditional Democratic voters weren’t struck from the rolls.
Diane Ravitch’s view is correct because I assume she kept herself informed with updated stories and checked her sources. One of the reasons I am a great admirer of Dr. Ravitch is that she would never cite an article written right after an election as a source for her opinion – although she would certainly read the article written the day after the election and take note of this sentence: “Pollsters don’t have a clear diagnosis yet for the misfires, and it will likely be some time before we know for sure what happened.”
And if the year is 2023 and she was looking at an article written the day after the election, she would look to see if there was a follow-up article when pollsters DID have a lot more information to make a better diagnosis for what happened.
The lesson that I hope is learned is that if the media falsely smears a Democrat and falsely exonerates a Republican the week before a presidential election, the Republican has a good chance of winning regardless of the polls. And that will happen whether the Democrat is the most progressive candidate in history or a boring moderate.
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Thanks for sharing this, Diane! Here’s the slightly revised version:
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10231464349899093&set=a.1200477179262v
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