A federal judge ruled that Mississippi must allow religious exemptions for vaccines now required for entry to public or private schools. It turns out that most states allow religious exemptions. Public health must take a back seat in this new age of vaccine hysteria.
Ashton Pittman of the Mississippi Free Press reports:
Anti-vaccine activists are celebrating in Mississippi after a federal judge struck down the State’s long-standing childhood vaccine requirements for public or private school attendance, saying the State must allow religious exemptions like most others already do. Mississippi is one of just six states that only permits childhood vaccines for medical reasons, with no religious exemptions.
The Texas-based Informed Consent Action Network funded the lawsuit, filed in September 2022, arguing that the lack of religious exemptions for vaccines violates the First Amendment’s guarantees of the free exercise of religion. On Tuesday, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi Judge Sul Ozerden agreed with ICAN’s argument.
The George W. Bush-appointed judge’s order says that starting on July 15, the Mississippi State Department of Health “will be enjoined from enforcing (Mississippi’s compulsory vaccination law) unless they provide an option for individuals to request a religious exemption from the vaccine requirement.” The State could still appeal the ruling, however.
Mississippi’s compulsory childhood immunization requirements include a vaccine for diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis; for polio; for hepatitis B; for measles, mumps and rubella; and for chickenpox. The State does not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Mississippi has the highest childhood vaccination rate in the nation, a fact that MSDH has attributed to strict vaccine laws. While other states with more permissive vaccine laws have reported measles outbreaks in recent years, Mississippi has not reported a case originating in the state in decades.
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Why are these people not having to show proof that their religion so forbids such activities. As it is now, all they have to do is state that they have “religious reasons” for their position, without having to articulate those. Since Jesus purportedly performed miracles, cannot we call these vaccines “miracle drugs” and thus make them allowed by all Christians?
Religious belief trumps the right to be healthy. Insanity.
NYS has an active anti-vaxer group, actually “invaded” a Regents Meeting pre COVID, haranguing everyone they could find, of course the State Education Department has nothing to do with vaccines, the Department of Health issues the rules, eventually it will reach SCOTUS, we need some agnostics on the Supreme Court, or God forbid, atheists.
You don’t have to be an atheist or agnostic to realize that someone’s religious beliefs shouldn’t enable someone to infect others- just not a religious fanatic.
Religious groups should not be able to endanger the health and wellbeing of others in the name of religion. There is a legitimate public heath reason public schools have a vaccination requirement. If religious zealots prevail, the state should be prepared to see diseases emerge they haven’t seen in ages including measles and perhaps even small pox.
Many US citizens have left COVID behind. Still, COVID is not forgetting them/us.
“Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, means an individual was infected, recovered, and then later became infected again. An individual can be reinfected multiple times. Reinfections are most often mild, but severe illness can occur.”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/reinfection.html#:~:text=Reinfection%20with%20SARS%2DCoV%2D2,but%20severe%20illness%20can%20occur.
“Nearly One in Five American Adults Who Have Had COVID-19 Still Have Long COVID”
The CDC estimates that a total of 124 million Americans have been infected with the virus. Does that mean almost 25 million are now living with Long COVID?
So, the more time one is reinfected with the virus, the odds go up that they may end up living with Long Covid.”
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220622.htm
Next time you are out and about and you are surrounded by maskless people, how do you know if they are infected or not?
The medieval absurdity of this ruling demonstrates the illegitimacy of supposedly legitimate courts. We are nearing a constitutional crisis that may well break with the accepted notion of any reliance on any sort of precedent anymore. When conservative claim this tactic, it is with the “justifications” of nullification and states rights. What will liberals who want to save the Constitution do when “legitimate” courts make logically illegitimate decisions like this the name of preserving the Constitution?
Plus it’s from Mississippi. Nothing good has ever come from Mississippi since Robert Johnson sold his soul at the Crossroads. And that wasn’t such a great deal for Robert.
Most States regulate their insurance industry. As long as insurance companies are free to not cover care for those with religious objections to vaccines. And doctors are free for religious reasons of course, to not treat the sub human creatures with no concern for other peoples health. I am okay with their religious exemption. The fact that children are impacted is on the parents. Of course it is child abuse but good luck in the courts.
“It turns out that most states allow religious exemptions.”
And what does the data look like in most states? Is it scary?
If kids are vaccinated aren’t they protected against the disease?
@ Lloyd – what does Covid have to do with this?
“Low vaccination rate in Amish children linked to hospitalizations” (8-2-2017 American Academy of Pediatrics)
We could speculate that the impact of spread of infection would be less in communities that have smaller spheres of interaction outside of the community. Few Amish are in densely populated areas where they would come into contact with many outside of their communities unlike citizens of a city like NYC.
Clarity, your medical insurance premiums increase when there are more hospitalizations.
And next door Alabama Governor Kay Ivey. Just Forced Resignation FIRED Dr. Barbara Cooper.
The Alabama Department of Early Childhood Education Director.
For using a NAEYC manual encouraging preschool teachers to remember that Families Are Different. Children come to us wrapped in many colors & cultures. Schools should be places of AFFIRMATION. And other such nonsense.
The infection keeps mutating & spreading.
https://birminghamwatch.org/ivey-forces-early-childhood-education-secretary-to-resign-over-teacher-training-book/
The deep south has always been a problem so getting traction there will be difficult. Georgia has made some inroads. The concern should be a state like Ohio that has an anti-woke bill introduced by a conservative Catholic GOP state Senator who is board chair of a Right to Life of Cleveland. Ohio is the 7th largest state. Pennsylvania which is also in the top 7 in population appears to be shifting to the left- not gerrymandered Ohio.
Not loving your neighbor enough to take simple measures to keep each other safe is heretical.
This issue places two opposing freedoms in collision with each other. We should have freedom of conscience, but our conscience should not reach out to harm others. The government should not have a right to require things of our person, but we should not use this freedom to harm others. The French recognized this, and one of the articles of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen states explicitly that a right exists only until it infringes on the right of another.
These are the places where democracy gets contentious. This democracy depends on the people choosing the correct balance. There are many behaviors we consider innocuous, but in certain context might be harmful to society. Opponents of democracy know that it depends on good information for people to make good decisions. So they sow bad information to weaken democracy. The more superstitious the society, the easier it is to bend their will to the good of the few. Fear motivates the crowd.
There is no freedom to put others in harm’s way.
And the Darwin Award goes to the parents of these children. Poor children. They will suffer for their parents’ idiocy.
Does it, Bob?
I don’t know what the difference in physical or chemical make up is between people in the UK and those in the USA, but there’s actuarial evidence in the UK government data that SOMETHING increased the mortality rates of people ages 20-44 in 2022 by 7.8%!
“2:46 – 3:11 The mortality of ages 20-44 is 7.8% vs. 2.5% increase for the elderly (75 to 84)… John says “this is just a HUGE difference” because young people aren’t supposed to die and it’s unusual when the increase in their deaths is 3X higher than the increase for the elderly. Then he says, “the government MUST give an explanation for this; it’s just incredible.” That’s right! But they are silent. And that’s the problem.
3:50 – 4:45 There were 31,000 excess deaths in 2022. The distribution was very very odd. The majority of these deaths were not from COVID. The distribution was 4,700 in the first half and 26,300 in the second half. So deaths were 5.7X higher in the second half. That’s huge and MUST be caused by something. What is it? The authorities are SILENT.”
Access to these government data found here:
Vaccinating children does not cause increases in death rates. This is a CRAZY conspiracy theory on right-wing media, akin to the stuff about the vaccines being used to implant chips in people.
I read somewhere that conspiracy theorists believe that the vaccine causes men to go impotent and women to go sterile. Cuckoo.
and the Protocols of the Elders is Zion is akin to the Bible
It’s cuckoo conspiracy stuff, like the British Hebrews thing or Jewish Space Lasers.
It would be lovely if anyone commenting in this subtext were willing to speak directly to the UK Gov’s documentation on excess deaths.
@Bob
Children are still generally someone’s children – even at ages 20-44
” mortality of ages 20-44 is 7.8% ”
Does $4 Billion sound like a lot of money to you, Bob? It’s an extraordinary amount of money to me. And by 2018, 6,276 were awarded a total of $4 Billion as a result of their kids vaccine induced deaths. I don’t know if 6,276 deaths of children change the death rates in children, but if you are trying to write off these deaths as incidental, shame on you. The rates of applications for wrongful deaths is much higher, btw.
The U.S. government has already begun issuing payouts to the covid 19 vaccine injured and/or their families who lost their loved one from this experimental drug.
Disgusting postings that degrade women’s and men’s sex organs can logically explain a hatred toward women and gays, perhaps in favor of elimination, Martine Rothblatt’s trans humanism style whose response to sexuality is essentially elimination.
“With the continuum of sexual possibilities, gay, straight and even bisexual will lose all meaning.”
Martin’s book quote here: https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2022/08/29/transgender-to-transhuman-martine-rothblatt-foreward/
And as usual, the targets are the most vulnerable.
https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2021/09/07/foster-care-final/
And this, Bob, is my counter your absurd gas lighting!
Human History has never come down in the favor of censuring free speech – this action has 100% been a result of the BAD guys.
ROFLMAO!!! Don’t Look Up!!!
The recognition that sexual orientation and gender (as opposed to sex–gender and sex are two different things) are ASSUMED and exist on a continuum has meant A GREAT BIRTH OF HUMAN FREEDOM, but some people are so backward that the great and beautiful cultural change there is totally escaping them. Well, too bad. Those folks are on the wrong side of history. They belong to an ugly past and not to the future. Thanks be to all the gods, even those that don’t exist yet. LOL.
This is exactly why our Founding Fathers, despite any religious beliefs they may have had individually, wanted their new-founded country to remain SECULAR! Religion should have no place in government or we will fall into the same problems as all of the other religious dominated countries, past & present, have experienced.
Our Founding Fathers would be appalled to see how Christofascism has taken root in this country.
Why don’t lefty politicians & organizations, or even free-thinking righties, constantly remind the masses of the fact that our Founders wanted a secular government? They surely fear that they would be labeled as anti-religious, but they could avoid that notion by stating their own religious beliefs, but admitting that despite those
beliefs, they agree with the Founders that religion should be completely separated from politics. Keep pounding that into the consciousness of of people & eventually it will stick.
Why can’t anyone provide evidence of harm? Isn’t this a group dedicated to education?
Got data?
Vaccines are supposed to protect the people who get them.
Again, what is the problem?
Speaking politics or religion doesn’t mean anything to me.
Speaking factual does.
Got facts?
@ Linda. Thanks for the isolated report. I don’t believe the hospitalizations of a some Amish kids pushed anyone’s insurance rates up. I don’t know if the Amish are even enrolled in any insurance program, do you? I’d bet they pay in cash. What do you think?
And you know what will drive our insurance rates up? The legalization of pot….because smoking anything is bad for the lungs and could lead to cancer…
Clarity – I agree it is not the Amish who push up insurance premiums. The Amish example established a precedent for the conclusion that hospitalizations increase when children aren’t vaccinated. The NYC extrapolation suggests what happens when children don’t receive vaccinations on a large scale.
As a parallel recent, contained situation for analysis, there is likely data that shows the cost of hospitalizations for those who did not receive Covid vaccines vs. those who did.
To the extent that smoking is paid for by Medicare or Medicaid, medical costs are mitigated because by smokers dying younger.
Linda,
Nothing is conclusive when one finds the needle in the haystack after searching for it.
In NYC, there was “a four fold increase” in hospitalization of kids, meaning it went from 2 a day to 8 a day and some had been fully vaccinated. Many were admitted and released same day, and in total kids accounted for less than 2% if the increases NYC saw in hospitalized WITH Covid rates not necessarily because of the disease.
(https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2021/2021-12-24_health_advisory.htm)
If you can share the “likely data” that you believe exists, that would indeed be something.
And what about second hand smoke?
Clarity
The spread of a disease is seldom isolated to one age group. Kids spread disease to others as do all age groups.
I surmise that you want to believe, big picture, that immunizations have no impact on hospitalizations nor do they have any benefits. I remember the polio epidemic (iron lungs, paralysis) and how grateful parents were when the vaccines were introduced. Based on what I’ve read (I try not to limit myself to viewpoints that confirm a bias I may have) vaccines in most cases have positive effect on quality of life in all age groups, generally.
One feature somewhat unique to Covid was that it disproportionately affected the health-compromised and elderly. Their early deaths may have produced a cost saving for some institutions. Their deaths also had an emotional cost to their families.
When all the data shakes out about number of deaths, and healthcare costs, including long Covid, and, we add in, the political upheavals and economic strain (short and long term) resulting from Covid prevention, the picture may indicate Covid should have been left to run its course without intervention. It would be tough from an ethical standpoint to make that final assessment. At the time the decisions were being made there were big gaps in knowledge.
Deaths at a younger age, whatever the cause, reduce the number of years that a person will require medical care. A person who is chronically ill over a long period is costly. As a nation, the decision was made to cover, for example, the costs of people who don’t wear helmets while riding motorcycles. A case could be made to not cover the costs of any behavior that results in medical issues or, as an alternative, prohibitions can be enacted. The experience with alcohol prohibition didn’t work. The associated underground economy created criminals.
Linda,
This is not accurate, “The spread of a disease is seldom isolated to one age group.” There are diseases titled, “childhood diseases” and older folks diseases.
That said, I’ve offered no opinion on vaccinations regardless of how you may choose to construe from my words. According to all literature I’ve read, vaccines are supposed to protect the user and the manufacturer is also legally obligated to provide informed consent. The “informed” part, according to the law, is an insert that comes with the medicine. In this case, drugs for Covid, those inserts said,
” ___________”
Can you read that blank space? Me neither. And they remain blank.
Unlike you, I don’t believe there were “big gaps in knowledge” because after just a few months there was evidence of early treatment and there was a history of evidence about when to treat an epidemic…but the information was censured, professionals were silenced and means of communication were altogether suppressed….and at the point we all knew deep down would arrive…when the numbers of the fully vaccinated began to show higher per capita hospitalization and death rates compared to their unvaccinated or undervaccinated counterparts…the publishing of these data ceased.
The precautionary approach, depending on your viewpoint, may or may not be society’s demigod.
The decision for me about vaccinations was/is easy. If most doctors take them and have their kids vaccinated, that’s my bellwether.
I know that my opinion about medical issues, no matter how much I learn about the subject, can’t equal that of a well- trained physician. The likelihood of me being accepted into med school and to graduate were slim to none.
The most common infectious diseases (2022) –
colds, flu, Covid-19, gastroenteritis, hepatitis and RSV,
To a large extent, through vaccination, there are few outbreaks of “childhood diseases”. The chicken pox and shingles virus gives us an example of the many unforeseen directions viruses can take.
“Why can’t anyone provide evidence of harm?”
Are you claiming that there is no evidence of harm caused by childhood poverty and hunger? Surely you are not.
Bob, your narratives are childish.
Got tangents?
The question, once again, refers to the same one earlier up in this thread and seeks to uncover demonstrable fact based data to show that children who reside in the 44 states that do offer exemptions for religious and/or other reasons, have effectuated harm to other children who, presumable, are vaccinated and therefore well protected against diseases.
NYC had a large outbreak of measles among Hasidic children who were not vaccinated. I can get documentation if you wish.
children who have not gotten vaccinations because of religious exemptions have harmed vaccinated children? Is that what you are saying? I’m having a difficult time parsing this. Not sure what you mean.
There is a certain lack of clarity in your posts. LOL.
@ Diane
Thank you for the information about the measles outbreak.
How many fell ill?
Ultimately, what was the outcome in terms of hospitalizations and deaths?
Data is really important.
Who is harmed, you ask? Well, kids, including teenagers, are harmed (and sometimes died) when their idiotic parents, for idiotic religious reasons based on something they heard from some televangelist huckster, refused to treat them or treated them with some “recommended by random people on the internet” drug like heartworm medicine or horse tranquilizer (or the Reverend what’s his names “Silver Solution” covid cure, which he was sued about by the federal government). So, there are those people. And then there are the folks who caught Covid from the morons who didn’t get vaccinated and, in large numbers, got ill. Must that’s a totally STUPID question? Who is harmed? Are YOU FREAKING KIDDING? This is a COMMUNICABLE DISEASE. People who get it because they are not vaccinated TRANSMIT IT TO OTHERS.
Duh
A lucid explanation
Thanks. A few typos, but I was a bit worked up. I am furious about the calamity brought about by these Denialists and misinformation purveyors. Hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths. Hundreds of thousands unnecessarily dealing with the neurological and cardiovascular effects of Long Covid. All because people spew this extraordinarily dangerous nonsense.
One of the greatest virtues that a teacher can have is patience. I have lost all patience with Denialists. Such people are responsible for the deaths and maiming of so many of our loved ones and fellow citizens.
I remember the polio epidemic in the late 1940s. Parents were afraid to let their children go to public places, not knowing how it spread. We saw pictures of children our age in an iron lung. When a vaccine was discovered, there was widespread exhilaration. Everyone clamored for the shot. I don’t recall anyone denying the validity of the vaccine or refusing it.
Yes. Back when sanity prevailed on this topic.
In Jacobson v Massachusetts (1905) SCOTUS affirmed the right of a city to require a smallpox vaccination in the midst of an epidemic, the penalty was a fine. The Court supported the City of Cambridge decision, affirming
“To invest such a body [Board of Health] with authority over such matters [vaccinations] was not an unusual nor an unreasonable or arbitrary requirement. Upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members. … if we are to attach any value whatever to the knowledge which, it is safe to affirm, is common to all civilized peoples touching smallpox and the methods most usually employed to eradicate that disease, it cannot be adjudged that the present regulation of the Board of Health was not necessary in order to protect the public health and secure the public safety.”
Jacobson v Massachusetts has been mentioned in over 60 SCOTUS decisions since 1905. The “police powers” of the government to protect the health and safety of the nation has been firmly embedded for over 100 years.
The Supreme Court, ignored a century of case law and overturned Governor Cuomo’s restrictions on the number of attendees at religious services citing the First Amendment,
“Members of this Court are not public health experts, and we should respect the judgment of those with special expertise and responsibility in this area. But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten. The restrictions at issue here, by effectively barring many from attending religious services, strike at the very heart of the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty”.
Justice Sotomayor dissented,
“Epidemiologists and physicians generally agree that religious services are among the riskiest activities”). Justices of this Court play a deadly game in second guessing the expert judgment of health officials about the environments in which a contagious virus, now infecting a million Americans each week, spreads most easily”
Thanks for this background, Ed! Sotomayor, as usual, is the voice of reason.
In some cases, one unvaccinated person gave an entire church freaking Covid and several of the parishioners then DIED. And all because their idiot preacher decided that he knew better than medical science does and got his information from random idiots on the Internet.
Well, I don’t know what the CDC says, but Joe Palooka on YouTube says that the horse tranquilizer is the way to go and that Gates is putting microchips in the vaccines the way Obama put chemicals in the drinking water to turn high-school kids transgender and Soros put those Space Lasers in the sky to cause wildfires in California..
Don’t look up, “Clarity.”
And mostly it was old folks who died. Granny, Grandpa got Covid from some idiot who decided because of junk pseudoscience and flimflam on the Internet that he or she should not get vaccinated. Or Granny and Grandpa got it from the idiot’s teenage kids who got Covid.
AND THEN THEY DIED.
That’s how epidemics and pandemics of communicable diseases work.
Duh again.
And people who contribute to the misinformation and disinformation are complicit.
Sorry, but I have less than no patience for this nonsense. People died, thousands and thousands and thousands of them because people spread such nonsense and because we had morons in “leadership” positions, in churches and in politics, led by the Orange Moron himself, who also misled and confused people into not protecting themselves and their loved ones and everyone else.
AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DID THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE.
We haven’t seen the worst pandemic YET. And all this anti-vax, anti-science nonsense confuses people further so that when the next really bad one comes, there will already be lots and lots of people who don’t trust science but do trust some preacher who uses too much hairspray and tan in a can.
I would love to see people start arresting those who purposefully spread misinformation and disinformation about matters of public health and thereby cause such horrific damage. This is worse than stupid. It’s dangerous and evil.
Public health is not a children’s game of “let’s pretend” in which it’s OK for random morons–preachers, politicians, guys in their basements with an internet connection–to pretend that they are microbiologists, immunologists, medical statisticians, and so on. When people do that, when idiots put forward nonsense as “data” in this area, other people suffer. They get sick. They die. Sometimes, as during the Covid pandemic, they get sick and die by the hundreds of thousands, unnecessarily, because of the parallel pandemic of misinformation and disinformation from people who don’t have a freaking clue what they are talking about.
Well, if everybody had just taken the dog’s heartworm medicine or horse tranquilizer, they would all have been just peachy.
$@ &% $*(@$**@$&&^*!*^&^*!!!!!!!
It’s interesting the extent to which during the pandemic random folks on the internet decided that they were data scientists. Any bs some person strings together doesn’t become “data” because he or she calls it that. If a cat has kittens in the oven in an abandoned house, that doesn’t make them biscuits.
We battled TWO simultaneous pandemics that reinforced one another: the Covid Pandemic and the Pandemic of Denialism and Misinformation about Covid and Its Treatment, led by the Denialist in Chief, that renowned epidemiologist Jabba the Trump (In a month or so, we’ll be down to five or so cases. And then, like magic, it will disappear? Right?)
Uh, no. Not right. And not OK. Over a million American deaths later, . . .
And now the Denialist in Chief who led so many people to became anti-vaxers and so caused hundreds of thousands to die unnecessarily–the person who has ALL THAT BLOOD on his tiny, little hands–is running for president again because, evidently, he hasn’t done enough damage yet.
I love it! Unable to deal in facts so you all shift the narrative to horse and buggy days. Charming.
lol
Stifling a laugh here.
I encourage you all to go to Josie SpaceFlower’s Facebook page, where she posts all the DATA and FACTS about how Obama used chemtrails and chemicals in the water to turn high-school kids transgender and then the DEEP STATE repressed the use of horse tranquilizer and canine heartworm medicine to cure Covid because they are Socialists who want to bring down America.
ROFLMAO
Facts and data are so hard for one with my limited intellectual capacity to understand. Sorry. LMAO.
The venomous hatred directed at parents is not lost overlooked by children. Unlike so many boomers here, I don’t vilify parents for doing what they believe is best for their children. And I don’t vilify people for their religious choices either.
Believe it or not, I’ve met Christians. They are good people who love their children.
Believe it or not, I’ve met Catholics. They are good people who love their children.
Believe it or not, I’ve met Amish folk. They are good people who love their children.
Believe it or not, I’m wondering if most in this group find it thrilling to target and attempt to shut down any opinion or belief that does not comport with your own. Whose next? Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists?
Or will it take a nationalist format, targeting ???
Clarity,
That’s an unfair comment. No religious believer is vilified on this blog. I respect the rights of all people to worship or not as they choose.
When it comes to public health, however, religion is not a good excuse to put the lives of others at risk. Respecting science does not abridge anyone’s freedom to worship the god of their choice.
More likely, these days, religious rights are being used to justify discrimination. Those who are opposed to abortion on religious grounds are forcing others—of different religions—to accept their beliefs.
Okay, Diane.
I’m still waiting for someone here to explain public health in terms of vaccination status since we are told that our vaccines are protecting us, the users. Whose lives are put at risk by those who don’t take them? Very unclear.
Drugs of all kinds have become political footballs, particularly off-label drugs. For instance, Ivermectin went from Nobel Prize Fame to horse manure for no other reason than profit once politicians and their funders learned that it held the potential to save thousands or even hundreds of thousands of lives by prescribing it off label. Yet, it is used off label for Lupus and used by millions to prevent River Blindness – safely and effectively.
On the other hand, there are seriously dangerous off label drugs handed out to minors, drugs that explicitly state on the inserts, DO NOT PRESCRIBE TO FEMALES, leading to all kinds of debilitating ailments and lifelong dependency
…meanwhile, politicians nod their heads in affirmation, shaking hands with Easter Bunnies and signaling followers to do the same – remain silent, ignore and/or mute those sounding the alarms about toxic and unstudied drugs doled out to minors.
No. No one should be forced to take any drug without informed consent and proper clinical trials – WITHOUT SHORTCUTS…like what happened with the Covid drugs…that, by all accounts, do not function as vaccines due to the very short effective life per dose…
I have ivermectin. It’s the main ingredient in my dog’s heart worm medicine. It’s easy to get. But when I googled, it didn’t look like a miracle drug.
“Symptoms of neurotoxicity include lethargy, drooling, tremors/seizures, inability to stand, disorientation, and coma. Serious neurological events in humans, such as encephalopathy, confusion, stupor, or coma, after ivermectin were initially observed in campaigns to treat O.”
You should read more about it before you take it.
I will stick with the COVID vaccine. I have had several jabs. When I eventually got COVID, it was a mild case. I was sick at home for a day, then had a low fever for a week. I have compromised lungs, so my uncomplicated recovery was an accomplishment.
There’s plenty of data from respectable medical journals about the efficacy of the COVID vaccine and the risks of not getting vaccinated.
But if you prefer animal deworming medicine, buy ivermectin (Heartgard). It’s sold over the counter or online (Amazon or Chewy). Good luck.
Clarity,
This is what the FDA says about ivermectin, which is used to kill worms in animals:
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/faq-covid-19-and-ivermectin-intended-animals#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20side%2Deffects,requiring%20hospitalization%20and%20liver%20injury%20(
Q: What is ivermectin approved for in the U.S.?
A: Ivermectin tablets are approved for use in humans for the treatment of some parasitic worms (intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis) and ivermectin topical formulations are approved for human use by prescription only for the treatment of external parasites such as headlice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.
Ivermectin is FDA-approved for use in animals for prevention of heartworm disease in some small animal species, and for treatment of certain internal and external parasites in various animal species. People should never take animal drugs, as the FDA has only evaluated their safety and effectiveness in the particular species for which they are labeled. Using these products in humans could cause serious harm.
Q: Is there any danger to humans taking ivermectin?
A: There are approved uses for ivermectin in people and animals but it is not approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. You should not take any medicine to treat or prevent COVID-19 unless it has been prescribed to you by your health care provider and acquired from a legitimate source.
Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests. Any use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 should be avoided as its benefits and safety for these purposes have not been established. Data from clinical trials are necessary for us to determine whether ivermectin is safe and effective in treating or preventing COVID-19.
Thanks for putting this stuff about the dog dewormer in proper perspective, Diane. It’s obscene how often there isn’t someone bright and knowlegeable like you to debunk this dangerous misinformation–misinformation that GETS PEOPLE SICK AND SOMETIMES CAUSES THEM TO DIE.
Google is a wonderful way to vet almost anything. Check the source, however.
I don’t understand why Clarity thinks a veterinary dewormer is Nobel worthy.
We’ve come a long way from the Library of Alexandria, huh?!?!!!??!!!
yikes. knowledgeable, ofc.
“Clarity.”
OMG. That’s a hoot.
When interviewed, Mary Jo McConahay said that her new book, “Playing God..,” is not about faith, it is about politics.
(She herself is religious.) Whether she can convince people of that point depends on who her audience is.
Jefferson warned us, in every country, in every age, the priest aligns with the despot.
Linda,
“Priests” of a million faces…and backed by “god” of the billion$.
Yes, I hate (that’s not too strong a word) science-denying, book-burning parents. They are in precisely the same category as were scientifically ignorant, eugenics-myth-believing, book-burning Nazis back in the 1930s and ’40s. Sometimes bad ideas are just bad ideas. They are DANGEROUS. They hurt people.
And that’s deserving of our disgust and our loathing.