Governor Ron DeSantis took the unusual step of convening a grand jury to investigate COVID vaccines. His opposition to the vaccines has been a hallmark of his administration. He wants to be the leading anti-vaxxer in the nation. He even found a public health official to serve as his Surgeon General who also opposes the vaccines. DeSantis relies on “experts” who oppose the vaccines, such as those who signed the so-called Great Barrington Resolution.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Tuesday that he plans to petition the state’s Supreme Court to convene a grand jury to investigate “any and all wrongdoing” with respect to the COVID-19 vaccines.
The Republican governor, who is often mentioned as a possible presidential candidate in 2024, gave no specifics on what wrongdoing the panel would investigate, but suggested it would be in part aimed to jog loose more information from pharmaceutical companies about the vaccines and potential side effects.
He made the announcement following a roundtable with Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo and a panel of scientists and physicians.
“We’ll be able to get the data whether they want to give it or not,” DeSantis said. “In Florida, it is illegal to mislead and misrepresent, especially when you are talking about the efficacy of a drug.”
Vaccine studies funded by pharmaceutical companies that developed COVID-19 vaccines have been published in peer-reviewed journals like the New England Journal of Medicine, and government panels reviewed data on the safety and effectiveness of the shots before approving them for use.
Statewide grand juries, usually comprised of 18 people, can investigate criminal activity and issue indictments but also examine systemic problems in Florida and make recommendations. Recent such panels have tackled immigration issues and school safety.
DeSantis noted that Florida recently “got $3.2 billion through legal action against those responsible for the opioid crisis. So, it’s not like this is something that’s unprecedented.” That money came largely through lawsuits, and settlements with drug makers, retailers and distributors.
DeSantis said he expects to get approval from the Supreme Court for the statewide grand jury to be empaneled, likely in the Tampa Bay area.
“That will come with legal processes that will be able to get more information and to bring legal accountability to those who committed misconduct,” DeSantis said.
DeSantis also announced that he is creating an entity called the “Public Health Integrity Committee,” which will include many of the physicians and scientists who participated in the roundtable on Tuesday. The group includes prominent opponents of lockdowns, federal vaccine mandates, and child vaccinations.
He said that over the course of the pandemic some people have lost faith in public health institutions, including the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The governor has frequently spoken out against CDC directives, including mask and vaccine mandates, and filed lawsuits to stop many from taking effect in Florida.
Additionally, the governor announced that Ladapo will conduct research through the University of Florida to ”assess sudden deaths of individuals in good health who received a COVID-19 vaccine.” In addition, he said that the Florida Department of Health will utilize disease surveillance and vital statistics to assess such deaths.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/article269950162.html#storylink=cpy
Fascist! That is DeSantis. Gestapo are his minions that support him in this craziness and his desire to be president of the United States. If DeSantis actually becomes the president then the US will step back into the dark ages.
DeSanitizing Florida Since 2019
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=desanitize
To make unsanitary in grand fashion. Especially in cases when cleaning and sanitation has just occurred.
I just bleached the entire bathroom and then unexpected explosive diarrhea struck standing up, causing me to desanitize the entire room.
Good one, Jon.
DeSantisizing:
Diminishing the size of a man (someone else or oneself).
DeSantis is only 5’9″ tall but called Fauci and elf.
Ha ha ha.
He was undoubtedly looking in the mirror when he said it.
This kind of disparaging language works for the short ron.
Resatanizing?
“He said that over the course of the pandemic some people have lost faith in public health institutions, …”
Of course he said this. It is the Republican gamut: the world has been broken by our opponent. Vote for me and I will fix it. In this case, it was the likes of DeSantis himself that broke public trust in scientific approaches to public health problems.
This approach hurts much deeper than anyone imagines. It not only puts distrust of science in general into the heart of the public, it also discredits real scientific questions about the exact course of whatever method is employed with regard to public health.
One of the scariest and most dangerous REPUBLICANS in the presidential pipeline & sewer! The DOJ and courts are incredibly busy and overloaded with the never ending REPUBLICAN CRIMEWAVES, Trump, GOP, Jan6, and DeSantis on down. Choking the systems, taking up months & years to create and maintain chaos.
Who the Hell raised these people?
Like viruses they mutate and continue.
We need vaccinations against the Republicans.
Frightening guy, this DeSantis and the REP party.
DeSantis is posturing to appease the religious right in Florida. It has also been reported that DeSantis was vaccinated quietly behind closed doors in Tallahassee. DeSantis knows who his donors and supporters are, and attacking vaccines is a way to keep his “strong man” image in donors’ minds and money flowing into his war chest. He will, of course, use tax dollars to underwrite this latest political stunt. Meanwhile, it was reported that Covid mortality rates are 37% higher in red states, and Florida leads the nation in senior Covid death rates.https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/opinion/2022/11/09/free-state-florida-no-1-covid-deaths-among-elderly/10658295002/
I just tweeted this link about COVID deaths in Florida along with “Thanks @govdesantis”
“it was reported that Covid mortality rates are 37% higher in red states, and Florida leads the nation in senior Covid death rates ”
2022 US election:
AGES 65+
44% voted for Democrats
48% voted for Republicans
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/23/midterm-election-preferences-voter-engagement-views-of-campaign-issues/
And the unvaccinated are dying at a much higher rate than the vaccinated.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~50%2B
Since people are still dying from COVID, in the next two years, this will result in fewer votes for Deranged DeSantis when he runs for president.
War should be waged on DeSantis . 40,000 more Floridians have died of Covid under his watch than NY residents. Not only were a large number of the deaths in NY early in the pandemic before there were any effective treatments or a vaccine . Many were infected before New Yorker’s had a clue the virus was spreading . Which makes the comparison even worse for Florida . No Demographic characteristics explain this . That is almost twice the deaths with a population only 10% greater . With a Household density among the elderly especially, far greater in NY than FL. Since vaccinations became readily available the Florida numbers are even worse compared to most Blue states .
Now I was never a big fan of Cuomo, not since he sided with the most anti union money in the country to attack NY teachers and Public unions. But I have to give him some slack on the handling of the pandemic . Hindsight is 20/20, his decision to send recovering Covid patients back may or may not have caused excess deaths in those Nursing facilities . There is a pretty good epidemiological argument that 10s of thousands of low wage healthcare workers living in crowded multi family housing bringing infections in, was far more causative than the few hundred patients returned, well into their recovery.
That said the Republican attack on Cuomo’s policy decision was masterful.
With 40,000 more deaths in Florida why are the Democratic Governors of the States of NY , California , Massachusetts not calling for him to be charged with negligent homicide or manslaughter for the total (intentional) miss handling of the Pandemic . Why are talking head medical experts not calling for the same.
As soon as Obama won the election in 08 the Republicans went to town with their assault . As soon as Biden took office the same . They spent 2 years in the suburbs of NY pushing a crime narrative that was not only not very real in NYC where the vast majority voted for Democrats 82% in Manhattan (where most commuters encounter New York City ) ,78% in the Bronx ,73% in Brooklyn ,67% Queens . But the great part Crime actually dropped from 2019 pre pandemic levels in almost every category in those 5 counties surrounding NYC . Those counties where Republicans took 4-5 seats giving them control of the House . No surprise crime stories on Fox News have dropped 30% since election day. .
Ron DeSantis is a murderer, I said it. Democrats should be saying it everyday till it sticks . Or we will be replacing a Fascist without a brain with a 1/2 brained fascist.
In Florida unlike NY there is very little active, organized resistance to DeSantis other than a few brave individuals like Andrew Warren or Rebekah Jones that dare to stand up to this bully. The Dems are fairly feckless in the state, and GOP legislature are in DeSantis’ pocket. DeSantis is the de facto dictator of the state.
Which is why the criticism has to come from leaders.of other States and Nationally . Trump himself led the attack on Cuomo. Calling for Justice Department investigations. You would think that Public Policy which caused 10s of thousands more deaths in Fl. than other states warrants a Justice Deportment investigation.
Curiously I wonder how much higher the excess mortality figure is in Fl since the start of the Pandemic. I do not trust any agencies that DeSantis heads to give honest Covid death numbers. But moralities get reported to CDC.
Replacing a Fascist without a brain with a half-brained Fascist
That nails it.
If I Only Had a Brain, or, Orange Is the New Slack
I just while away the hours
A-tweetin’ in my bower,
Consulting with TV.
I don’t care for cogitating,
I just sit here agitating
While I’m watching Hannity.
Think I’ll order some hamburders
And tweet out some diverters
From the latest breaking news
’bout the crimes I’ve perpetrated
And the folks I terminated
For developing a clue.
Oh, I-I-I can’t tell you why
Burning fossil fuels warms the Earth,
I care only for increasing my net worth.
A man is measured . . . by his girth.
I would not be just a nothin’,
My head all full of stuffin’
And neediness and pain.
I wouldn’t be insane, erratic;
I might be quite democratic
If I only had a brain.
Replacing a hair-brained fascist with a half-brained fascist
When the next hurricane hits will he stand on the seashore and deny it is happening?
Instead, he’ll likely sit down with the insurance bigwigs to ensure that they make mega-profits from the disaster while they give him a gigantic donation for his war chest. He’ll be sure to send the suffering people a truck load of water while the cameras are rolling.
Ah, now I understand. It’s MAGA II.
Make Acquisitiveness Great Always.
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Like him or not –
When the hurricanes hit the New Jersey shores and the surfers and vactioners refused to go, Chris Christie grabbed the mic and said for all news to record “Get off the damned beaches, now!”
Can’t argue with that advice….
Well some folk would, but as it is said these days:
‘That’s a Darwinian Moment’
While wearing the white go-go boots?
Of course. doing this song and dance:
As a wise person once said, “The road to Ron is paved with bad intentions”
And “DeSantis will lead to Ron nation.”
Ron: the Gauntlet
confRONtational
He can be wRONg 20 times before breakfast!
He’s an anachRONism
Ron of the mill
He has the brains of a philodendRON.
Hit and Ron
Ron: out of ideas
You can Ron, but you can’t hyde. Can’t Jeckle, Can’t heckle
We are on a Rondesvous with disaster.
haaaa!
He’s fine with ronning right over people.
We’re getting used to the ronning off at the mouth.
Ron in the other direction.
Just look at this ron down state.
Are we talking Covid, or does he include mumps, polio, shingles… ?
You’re either and antivaxxer or not
He can’t deny the existence of covid or like the ExPres call it a bad flu – –
so how does he distiguish it?
OR will Florida now tell schools “Don’t Say Gay” and “Don’t VaccinAte”
DeSantis is a Rondumb vote generator.
haaaa
The WaRon Covid
The WaRon Gays
The WaRon Immigrants
The WaRon Vaccines
The WaRon Science
DeSantis terrifies me. And I’m 3000 miles away from Florida.
With Mike Lee! What vile human beings they both are.
Desantis,,,A blame and spend Republican?
The bottom line is that anti-vaxx quackery, including the spreading of extraordinarily exaggerated concerns about vaccine consequences and doubts about vaccine effectives, KILLS PEOPLE. People die because they listen to people who spread this nonsense and don’t get themselves and their families vaccinated.
EVIL. Spreading this nonsense is evil.
cx: vaccine effectiveness
LOLOLOL. I needed that. Love me some Lewis Black,
The 1st Q that entered my mind was, well obviously, since they have so many elderly. While it’s true 1 in 5 Floridians are over 65– and more than 1 in 3 FL covid deaths were in that group– covid kills more elderly, proportionally, so you need the comparative rate [not the number] of over-65 covid mortality.
I found a chart by The Bioinformatics CRO that does the job. They rank states [+ DC & PR] by age-adjusted covid mortality rate, i.e., adjusted for the state population’s proportion of all age groups, weighted to take into consideration the higher mortality of older groups. The data is updated through 12/7/22. They show you the total mortality rate for comparison. While FL is on the high side for total mortality [357/100k]—ranking up there with NYS [391] and NJ [381], their age-adjusted rate is middling at #31/52 [299/100k], whereas NYS is #17 [370] and NJ #19 [367]. So FL didn’t do so badly.
Bioinformatics’ chart reflects the same oddity we see on other covid mortality formulations: FL had opposite covid approach re: closings, masking et al to CA, yet results similar: age-adjusted, CA ranks #38 [275/100k].
For context, MS is absolute worst: total 476/100k, age-adjusted 486/100k, and OK #2 [total 438, age-adjusted 447]. Next-to-lowest was VT [total 130, age-adjusted 114], and lowest HI [total 120, age-adjusted 106].
Don’t get me wrong folks. I experienced extreme cognitive dissonance while writing that post. Dispute the figures, please [Henny Youngman intonation]. There was an equation accompanying the analysis, but it’s all Greek to me. https://www.bioinformaticscro.com/blog/states-ranked-by-age-adjusted-covid-deaths/
Chris Hayes reported on Wednesday that Republican deaths from covid have doubled deaths of Democrats. Interesting way to get out your base…