The U.S. Supreme Court is pondering the fate of affirmative action, the policy in higher education that aims to increase the representation of African American and Hispanic students. Students of color have long been underrepresented in the nation’s top colleges. Affirmative action is a good faith effort to increase their numbers. Critics who oppose affirmative action want admissions to be based solely on objective measures, like SAT-ACT scores. The critics claim that white and Asian-American students are discriminated against by affirmative action and that the number of places available for them are diminished by affirmative action.
Iris Rotberg, professor of education policy at the graduate school of education and human development at George Washington University, contends in the Hechinger Report that the real scandal in admission to elite colleges is the large number of places set aside for white students.
She writes:
The main barrier is affirmative action for affluent white students, which uses up a significant number of admissions slots at many highly selective institutions. This preferential treatment constitutes a major obstacle for everyone else — including white students who are not in privileged categories.
Consider how affirmative action played out for Harvard’s class of 2023. More than 43 percent of admitted white students were in one of four categories that received preferential treatment: legacies, recruited athletes, applicants on the dean’s interest list and children of faculty and staff.
An analysis of this class shows that three-quarters of these students would not have been admitted if their applications had not received preferential treatment.
More important, that preferential treatment resulted in far fewer slots for other applicants.
In addition, Harvard gives preferential treatment to white students who attended elite private schools.
About one-third of Harvard’s students attended private high schools, compared with the national average of less than 10 percent….
While the Students for Fair Admissions case has prompted a unique analysis of Harvard’s admissions practices, the practices themselves are not unique and are consistent with practices at many other highly selective institutions, where a substantial number of white applicants receive preferential treatment.
At the same time, Black and Hispanic students continue to be substantially underrepresented at highly selective institutions. A 2017 New York Times analysis of elite colleges and universities, for example, found that Black students, who account for 15 percent of the college-age population, averaged only 9 percent of freshman enrollment at the eight Ivy League institutions; Hispanic students accounted for 22 percent of the student-age population, but averaged 15 percent of freshman enrollment.
In addition, Black and Hispanic enrollment rates are even lower when the list of institutions is expanded to include the top 100 elite colleges and universities. Black students comprised 6 percent of student enrollment and Hispanic students 13 percent at those schools.
As many studies have shown, the underrepresentation of Black and Hispanic students does not reflect a lack of high-achieving students, but the barriers these students face in applying to highly selective institutions — costs, insufficient counseling and the recruitment policies of the institutions themselves, for starters.
Underlying all of this controversy is the ivy pipeline to high position. Personal connection is the best predictor of success. Thus people like me who graduated from a local state institution are far less likely to get jobs in important places in government and industry than personally connected graduates of ivies.
What this sets up is the political division in the country, with those on the outside developing distrust of elites, whether the ivy graduates deserve it or not. This division also leads to ethnic underrepresentation, because some ethnic groups are not in the ivies.
The hilarious part about the fact that Ivy leaguers are largely in charge is that some of the stupidest people on the planet come out of the Ivies.
George Dumbya Bush is exhibit A. The guy has degrees from Yale and Hawvid.
That, combined with the fact that many Ivy grads are all about perpetuating their family wealth and influence is one of the primary reasons that things in the US are FUBAR.
And a lot of them are just bullshit artists, which, in addition to family ties, is how they got in to begin with.
It’s a self selection process.
Bullshit and parental bribes… I mean “donations”.
The obsession (among students, parents, and government officials) with “elite” institutions is THE core problem.
It’s certainly not warranted from a “merit” standpoint and besides that, it is just very unhealthy.
It’s actually weird that so many people focus almost exclusively on “elite” institutions.
I read all of your comments, someDamn poet, and you are correct. I agree. Thanks!
The CRT “issue” is part and parcel of this trend. Along those lines, watching Ali Velshi now on MSNBC doing an excellent segment on book banning, which is also intricately tied to CRT, ending affirmative action, school book approvals, and putting “the other” in their places.
for such a long time with Jim Crow and with following segregation actions, the “right place” for people who were not White was in the background (marginalized) or not mentioned (excluded)
Gaining access to the Ivy League is often the way young people make connections that may be helpful to them in the future. Affirmative action allows more young people of color to also get a chance at a “golden ticket” that plenty of white students like Jarrod Kushner get by being born into wealth. Considering all the injustice Black and Brown people still face in this country, it is small benefit to this group and a worthwhile endeavor IMO. SCOTUS will likely crush it using some feeble excuse.
The fundamental problem is that the system is set up to favor elite institutions for quite perverse reasons that have nothing to do with knowledge.
If an Ivy education were not so unwarrantedly and grossly overvalued, it wouldn’t be the case that people felt the need to go there and to send their children there.
When did education become all about connections, anyway?
Isn’t it supposed to be about learning?
Agreed.
Christian nationalism is on the rise. In the context of this discussion- shouldn’t its associations with anti-black, anti-Semitic and anti-woman groups and individuals and, with GOP politicos who are anti-affirmative action, lead us to review Christian and Catholic colleges separately from non-sectarian private colleges? For example, if a prestigious Catholic College has the fewest Jews among the top 25 schools and if 80% of the students’ parents identify as Catholic while only 5% of the Black population is Catholic, should it factor into this discussion about access and tax support for schools? I single out Catholic because that sect has the greatest number of schools among the top, most elite schools in the nation.
When prestigious schools like Catholic, Georgetown U. in D.C. were very late to admit Black students (1953), it made it impossible for Black students to construct the same legacy ladder of privileged Whites. When Georgetown recently hired Ilya Shapiro for a top position in its law school’s administration, should his public tweet about Black and female jurists qualified for SCOTUS be factored into public assessments about a universities’ institutional commitment to equality? Should the impact at legacy-admission Catholic colleges be examined? Detroit News reported that legacy students at Notre Dame (and, Dartmouth, Cornell and the University of Southern California) outnumbered Black students in the freshman class. Reportedly, those schools were among 8 of 30 that provided data to the AP about the topic.
A conservative Catholic majority will decide the affirmative action case before SCOTUS.
The continued omission of religion in discussions imperil(ed) democracy.
Absolutely! It’s as if affirmative action has been a tool for so called elite universities to look progressive. I’m a big college football fan and one of the things that really stands out every Saturday is, that while the participants tend to be African American, the 80 to 100 thousand in the stands are predominately white. If universities were sincere about minority admissions they would reject the hyper capitalism that has driven their growth and locked minorities out. I will hate the reasoning given by SCOTUS when it overturns affirmative action, but the actions of higher ed in regard to access shows me that they don’t really care that much. If we want our universities to be more inclusive we need to take away the concept of “most selective” as a sign for excellence and determine which colleges are being the most effective preparing young adults for life.
Iris is right about so many things but in this case she is not. The reason that African-American students are underrepresented is that they are a full standard deviation lower than whites on virtually every measure of academic achievement – sat, GRE, IQ . There is no reason to believe that this situation will change in the foreseeable future.
Elliot,
There is so much variation among all groups that it seems to me useless and stigmatizing to make such broad generalizations. Would you say that your intellect is greater than that of Henry Louis Gates, Jr. or Toni Morrison? Without knowing you, I doubt it. When you consider the number of white men and women who support the stupidest man ever elected president, I know your generalization is shallow. And racist.
It’s not useless at all. It explains why there are so few African Americans at elite institutions
In fact African Americans are probably over represented because there are lower standards at our universities for African Americans than for whites. This in no way implies that are not some very smart African Americans. I certainly don’t claim that this is due to heredity. It is more likely due to conditions of early childhood that are more likely to be present among African Americans than among whites. I don’t see this changing in the foreseeable future.
It’s people like you who give liberalism a bad name. Facts are stubborn things. I do think I’m their equal in terms of intellectual ability. Ask Iris what she thinks about this
When you throw around statistics about millions of people based solely on the color of their skin, that’s disgusting. As I look at the quality of “leadership” chosen by Trump voters in states like Florida, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, and the Midwest, I don’t see anyone who represents the intellectual superiority of the white race. If being anti-racist gives “liberalism a bad name,” I’ll wear that name with pride.
As Goethe said “There is nothing more terrible than ignorance in action”. I said nothing about the superiority of the white race and my comment has nothing to do with Trump. I stated a fact which explains why African-Americans are underrepresented at elite universities. You are not being anti-racist; you are being ignorant. I consider myself to be a liberal; I don’t know what to call you.
“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”
― Carl Sandburg
For those who care to follow the exchange, this is what Iris Rotberg wrote:
https://dianeravitch.net/2022/11/05/iris-rotberg-the-real-scandal-of-affirmative-action/
And the following replies:
Elliot Cramer
January 22, 2023 at 9:27 pm
Iris is right about so many things but in this case she is not. The reason that African-American students are underrepresented is that they are a full standard deviation lower than whites on virtually every measure of academic achievement – sat, GRE, IQ . There is no reason to believe that this situation will change in the foreseeable future.
Reply
dianeravitch
January 22, 2023 at 10:22 pm
Elliot,
There is so much variation among all groups that it seems to me useless and stigmatizing to make such broad generalizations. Would you say that your intellect is greater than that of Henry Louis Gates, Jr. or Toni Morrison? Without knowing you, I doubt it. When you consider the number of white men and women who support the stupidest man ever elected president, I know your generalization is shallow. And racist
Hello Elliot,
Higher education leaders are increasingly eliminating or reducing their reliance on test scores. They have done so because they understand that test scores are a deeply flawed measure of applicants’ academic potential. They know too that this same measure, flawed for individual applicants, is also deeply flawed when applied to comparisons among population groups. While misinterpretations of teat-score comparisons are commonplace, what surprises me is that you of all people, after many years of experience in methodological analysis in our graduate school and beyond, have fallen into that trap. For analysis of the issues, I refer you to the articles I — any many others— have written on the misinterpretation of test-score comparisons.
Iris