Paul Cobaugh is a retired Army veteran who served in special operations for 19 years. He now writes about military intelligence and narratives.
In his blog, “Truth about Threats,” he discusses whether Putin is likely to carry out his threats to use nuclear weapons. He indicates that there is some knowledge about Putin’s cognitive decline, which is worrisome.
But he is reassuring in his certainty that Putin and his advisors have been directly informed that any use of nuclear weapons will unleash a “devastating” response.
He writes:
Ever since Putin launched his unprovoked and disastrous war against his innocent, neighbor, Ukraine, he’s been either hinting at or overtly threatening the use of WMD, more specifically “nukes.” The sheer insanity of such threats is staggering but a closer look, just look may defang, some of our worst fears. Let’s give it a try. I will try to also avoid the legitimately complex language, of the arms control world.
First and foremost, a full-scale nuclear contest is what has long been termed, MAD, or “mutually assured destruction.” In simple terms, the absolute end to life as we know it. Putin knows this as well as anyone and is unlikely to commit suicide. This is not as unlikely as it was when the MAD doctrine became a routine assumption in the nuclear community but still, such a use would deny Putin, all that he is seeking with, “Putin’s War…”
Let’s not kid ourselves, Putin, who is soulless, has the propensity to gamble on a limited, tactical or similar deployment of these horrific weapons. He abides by no law, treaty of commitment. AS a result, there is virtually no reason to negotiate with him. Besides the historic, Russian paranoia of the west, baked into Russian identity, Putin has his own starkly personal version too. This coupled with reporting, since 2008 at least suggesting declining, cognitive abilities is not encouraging. Since reporting has taken this likely decline of Putin’s mental health, those in the US and allied nuclear forces have wisely focused on countermeasures. This should bolster everyone’s confidence somewhat.
Finally, the White House has done an excellent job managing Putin’s threats and in conjunction with our allies. Today’s statement by the NSA, National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, is blunt and to the point. Well done, WH. This statement includes public insight or two of the primary factors in managing Putin’s threats, deterrence and communication. This simply means that the WH, has made it expressly clear, with zero ambiguity that should Putin attempt to deploy any type of WMD, especially nukes of some sort that the response for him and Russia would be devastating. This clear understanding is the “deterrence…”
Okay, the above should help everyone breath a bit easier regarding a nuclear war of sorts and I hope that this helps you enjoy your weekend more than prior. I do want to just add a related note that is slightly less optimistic but still rather unlikely to occur.
There is a long list of WMD types, not just nuclear. Putin has, with his invasion, systematically adopted a scorched earth policy that leaves Ukraine incapable of surviving post war. This includes destroying Ukraine’s ability to be the breadbasket of Europe and much of the rest of the world with their immense and excellent agriculture industry. They have occupied and threatened radiological “dirty bombs” by allegedly having accidental explosions at nuclear power stations…
Let’s hope that cooler heads continue to prevail and that along with the support of the world’s good guys,” that Ukraine becomes the victor, sooner than later. Then comes the fight to force Russia to pay for reparations. We’ll get to that as we get closer to Ukraine’s victory. Remember, much of Russia’s $630bn of foreign exchange reserves is estimated to be held in the West. How about we freeze them now so they can be part of the reparations later? Hint hint.

I know you’re not going to publish this, but it’s hilarious (in a dark comedy sort of way) that Putin is both a raving lunatic maniacal madman who invaded an “innocent” country for absolutely no reason at all, yet simultaneously sane enough not to use nuclear weapons. Surely even you can see the contradiction?
It’s also hilarious that anyone from the U.S. dares to talk about any foreign leader being in “cognitive decline”. Whatever your opinion of his character, Putin can speak off the cuff, without a teleprompter or even notes, for a solid hour or more building a logical argument block by block (even if you disagree with said argument). Our president, meanwhile, has trouble reading off a teleprompter, talks to dead people and can’t find his own way off the stage. Glass houses.
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Even a butcher like Putin avoids suicide.
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“Butcher”. Okay, fair enough. ukraine claims about 14,000 ukrainians have died so far in this war. Let’s take them at their word because I’m sure they have no reason to lie (ahem). Let’s agree that 14,000 deaths make one a “butcher”.
The U.S., led by Dubya Bush, killed 15,000 people in Iraq’s “Shock and Awe” in the first two weeks. Conservative estimates say we killed at least 300,000 total; other estimates range as high as 1 million. All for what is now universally acknowledged as a lie. So what does that make Bush? What should happen to him? Yet the party that you claim loyalty to has rehabilitated him, bestowed awards upon him, shared candy with him at the ball game, danced with him on national television. What does that make that party?
If Putin says Orange Man Bad, can he get rehabilitated too?
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“Putin can speak off the cuff, without a teleprompter or even notes, for a solid hour or more building a logical argument block by block (even if you disagree with said argument).”
Since when is “speaking off the cuff without a teleprompter” a sign that someone is cognitively stable? Herschel Walker can do this, and so can Trump. So can many completely insane people! And the definition of “logical argument” says a lot more about the person listening — we all know that Trump’s base believes he is making brilliant, logical arguments, just like Putin’s fans do. But all their fans repeat the right wing talking points that it is Biden who is in cognitive decline because he forgot that some random Republican legislator among many hundreds he barely knows died in the recent past.
I would say that the mark of cognitive decline isn’t having the kind of “senior” moments that all of us — except our resident Putin-lover apparently – experience.
The mark of cognitive decline is not recognizing reality when it is pointed out to you over and over again. The mark of cognitive decline is believing something you read on the internet over your own “lying” eyes. The mark of cognitive decline is believing a Putin-fan club propaganda source over Diane Ravitch and AOC and Bernie Sanders.
The mark of cognitive decline is being easily brainwashed into believing a murderous, lying leader is making a brilliant and cogent argument that bowls you over with its intelligence. While intelligent people who misspeak but act in normal, caring ways are in “cognitive decline” to you.
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Ending conflicts is either capitulation or a negotiated settlement which implies wins and losses for all parties, and frequently a trusted third party mediator (India??) … conflicts sometimes fade away w/o a resolution… somewhere we are discussing a response to a tactical nuclear weapon … I fear we may have not learned from Sarajavo and the Sudetenland
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Why should the Ukrainians “settle” by giving Putin any of their territory? Why should he be rewarded for yet another invasion.
The main thing Putin has accomplished is to make NATO larger (with the addition of Denmark and Finland), to unify NATO, and to demonstrate the haplessness of the Russian military.
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Short of capitulation all other settlements require some sort of compromise, and, the Western support may wane as hardships grow … also, if no settlement by 2024 an issue in the presidential election
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Peter,
If someone invaded your home and stole whatever you value most, would you get him to leave by letting him take what he stole?
What about the UN Charter? International law? If strong nations can take whatever they want, weak nations will always lose. Remember Czechoslovakia? Peace in our time? So long as the Ukrainian people want their freedom and their territorial integrity, I support them against this unprovoked aggression.
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Ukraine should not give a nanometer to Putin.
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I think he will dare to use tactical nukes. He recently said that the US used 2 nuclear weapons in WWII as a justification for his proposed use of nuclear weapons. It’s a ridiculous comparison, we were forced into WWII by the Pearl Harbor attack while Putin IS the instigator of the war in Ukraine, he is the aggressor, not a victim. The man is an amoral monster who wants to be the reincarnation of Tsar Ivan the Terrible.
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Conflicts end in capitulation, negotiation or endless low level conflicts, all sides use threats to both intimidate or position in negotations, Putin is using the nuclear options as a threat, we are replying using non specific threats, we need a trusted third party to mediate (India??), the lesson of the past: Sarajevo and Sudetenland are ominous, WW 1 and 2 might have beem averted, so far a thousand years of Russian history, the unification of all Slavic nations, is the Russian goal .. and stumbling into a catastrophic event altogether possible. Biden is well aware of the dangers …. are there people in Putin;s camp urging a settlement? We eare on the edge of doom
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OMG, and I get made fun of. It’s sad that a teacher’s blog doesn’t know basic history. The Pearl Harbor attack was in 1941. So we managed to wait all the way to 1945, but somehow then we “had to” nuke 250,000 civilians because of it???
In any case, dropping those bombs was never necessary to end the war with Japan and Eisenhower even admitted it. The U.S. knew Japan was about to surrender, but they dropped those bombs anyway as a message to … wait for it … Russia. https://www.wagingpeace.org/were-the-atomic-bombings-necessary/
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The dropping of those bombs was indefensible. The Japanese high command was already debating the terms of its surrender. We know this. Everyone knows this, almost, except a few Americans.
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I am truly pleased that we agree on something.
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No one, Dienne, justified, above, the use of nuclear weapons at the end of WWII. No one said we “had to” do this.
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It’s fun when people who purport to know history reveal themselves by writing the stupidest things. Let’s go to the videotape on the “1941…1945” and “managed to wait all the way to”. I won’t go into details because I know it is lost on this maroon. Look up: history of science and in particular physics and find timelines; Manhattan Project; unconditional surrender; Robert Oppenheimer; Werner Heisenberg; Max Planck; Neils Bohr. You might be able to fill in a little knowledge on the “1941…1945” thing. Your ignorance is breathtaking.
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BTW, Paul Cobaugh is the Vice President of this “Think-Do Tank”: https://www.narrative-strategies.com/
They specialize in “narrative warfare”. How is this anything other than blatant propaganda? Their website contains no indication of their funding, but what do you want to bet it’s either Raytheon/Northrup Grumman/Boeing/other defense contractors or even directly funded by the Pentagon or CIA? And who do you think this propaganda is aimed at? It wasn’t published in Russia….
Also, how do you explain the fact that it’s the U.S. that has unilaterally withdrawn from nuclear treaties while Putin has been pushing for new treaties?
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What a wonderful guy, that Putin. He’s been in charge of Russia for 20 years and had his term extended to 2036. Thirty-six years in office! The indispensable man! Unless the military pulls a coup.
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I assume that you are using the term “man” loosely, Diane.
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After Putin arranged for his banker in Germany to make a billion dollars’ worth of loans to his dog, Trump (who received these loans despite the fact that he was bankrupt), and after Putin expended enormous Russian intelligence resources on social media to get Trump elected president and after he had his intelligence services hack Trump’s opponent’s email AT TRUMP’S REQUEST, it was payback time, and Vladimir’s Asset Orange, Moscow’s Asset Governing America (MAGA), the traitor, Trump, delivered bigly (Trump’s mispronunciation of “big league”). Trump ignored his own intelligence services, denied Russian involvement in the election, alienated our allies around the globe, called repeatedly for the U.S. to leave NATO, unilaterally and in direct contravention of his own joint chiefs and SECDEF abandoned our allies the Kurds and left northern Syria to Assad and the Russians (an action that led Mattis to resign), AND pulled out of the INF and the Open Skies treaties at the very time when his handler, Vladimir, was fielding, in violation of the INF, a new generation of hypersonic nuclear missiles. So, Trump delivered and delivered, and ofc, Tsar Putin said one thing and did another throughout this period because that’s what the little bloody Chekist does. When these two evil men finally shuffle off the mortal coil, I suggest that they be buried together and have this engraved on their stone:
Here lie Trump and Putin,
but that’s nothing new.
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Your hero Vladimir just gave a speech in which he justified what he characterized as a holy war on a need to prevent the Satan from turning Russian kids transgender. Such a forward-thinking, progressive fellow, your hero.
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Did you read Putin’s speech? Or just the bowdlerized, sanitized version in CONsortium “News”?
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Can you find me a single time I have ever called Putin a “hero” or anything remotely approaching that? I’ll wait.
Fascinating that a man who is so knowledgeable about how humans learn to read so profoundly lacks reading comprehension himself. It’s almost like there’s something that interferes with your brain being able to understand what I actually say….
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Dienne, you have repeatedly defended everything Putin does and says. You find him far more appealing and thoughtful than Biden, who was actually elected, doesn’t murder or jail his opponents, and will not serve more than 4 or 8 years, unlike Putin with his 36-year term and a long list of dead or jailed opponents. You have, like Putin, called the Ukrainians “Nazis,” even their Jewish president. Whatever Putin says (“help, I’m encircled by NATO”), or (“I’ll never invade Ukraine,”) or “those 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border are engaged in training exercises.“)
We won’t even go back to your relentless attacks on Hillary; how did that work out?
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Okay, if I’ve said that he’s a hero or anything close to that “repeatedly” it shouldn’t be hard to find an instance or two. Still waiting.
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BTW, even mainstream media called the ukranians nazis prior to this year. I forwarded you dozens of examples. Would you like me to post them all?
And my “attacks” on Hillary have worked out just fine, thanks. I still can’t believe you forgive her for promoting Trump in the first place because she thought he’d be easy to defeat – and then losing to him! Maybe a visit to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin? Maybe not calling a third of the country “deplorables” and another third “superpredators”? Did Putin make her do those things?
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Dienne,
I see that you are delighted that Trump defeated Hillary, whom you still detest. How do you like Trump’s Supreme Court? Feel okay about the end of Roe? This coming term, the Trump Court is likely to eviscerate voting rights, gay rights, and affirmative action. But at least the dreaded Hillary lost.
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If it quacks like a duck. You continually defend everything this guy says. You write about how brilliant and articulate and reasoned he is. This, in the face of the obvious contravening facts, looks/sounds like hero-worship to me. It sounds like the slavish adherence that one finds in cultists.
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I understand, or think I do. You believe that the U.S. is the bogeyman of the world, and you point again and again to the very real horrors in our history, including our recent history, to the genocide against the native peoples of this continent to slavery to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the Shock and Awe campaign against Iraq. I agree. All horrific. Unconscionable. But we were also the ones who stopped the Fascists of Italy, Germany, and Japan. And we are among those standing up to the Fascist, imperialist Putin right now. I always shudder when you write that others are OK with the atrocities committed by the U.S. in the past. I’m not OK with these. Diane isn’t OK with these. NO ONE HERE, to my knowledge, is OK with these (though some people, bizarrely, continue to defend the mass murder of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II–that I simply cannot fathom, and I think they hold to this view from sheer ignorance).
Yes, the Second Iraq War was a violation of international law. It was a crime of aggression against another UN member state. The Bush preemption doctrine used to justify it was never codified in International law. And terrible war crimes were committed. And the same is true of what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. YOU are the one who does not see the clear and obvious parallel.
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“But we were also the ones who stopped the Fascists of Italy, Germany, and Japan….”
Um, not Germany we didn’t. That was the Soviet Union, which lost an estimated 27 million of its people to the nazis.
In any case, if you have to reach back 70 years to find something good we’ve done in the world, I’m not sure you have much of a leg to stand on considering our intervening history.
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I’m not a military person, but I doubt that the Soviet Union could have stopped Nazi Germany on its own. Its military was even more incompetent than it is now. Stalin periodically executed generals, which wasn’t great for morale. The Russian people were fighting for their own country and homeland against an invader—just as the Ukrainian people are now.
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And then there was the little matter of Operation Overlord, beginning with D-Day and culminating in the Liberation of Paris. LOL.
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And, ofc, there is a difference between the statements “The Ukrainians are Nazis” (ridiculous Russian propaganda that you REPEAT AD NAUSEAM, Dienne) and “There are a few Nazis in Ukraine” (and in the United States, as Diane as pointed out EVERY TIME you trot out this absurd Russian propaganda). And it makes no difference at all HOW OFTEN you assert an absurdity–how many articles who post from LooneyNews saying that the moon is made of green cheese and Ukrainians are Nazis. It’s still utterly ridiculous. And the whole world knows that this is ridiculous except you. Even Putin and his toadies know that this is laughable. Zelensky the Jewish Nazi. Hmmm. Do tell.
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And thank you, Diane. Brilliant, and spot on.
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And, yes, if it weren’t for the military might that we can put behind NATO, Russia under Tsar Vladimir would have long ago overrun the former Soviet bloc states, as it is overrunning Ukraine right now. Those states know this. That is WHY they joined the DEFENSIVE organization that NATO is.
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Was NATO “DEFENSIVE” when it turned Libya into a literal slave state? Seriously, no one believes that, especially not the countries that have been on the receiving end of NATO’s “defense”.
Anyway, as fun as this has been, I am needed elsewhere soon, so I don’t know that I will be able to respond further, at least until this evening. I hope to continue this party later.
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The NATO action in Libya was pursuant to a UN Resolution (Security Council Resolution 1973), so, it was under the auspices of international law. The daughter of a good friend of mine, btw, had been in Africa doing humanitarian work (she was a college kid) and was returning when she was blown up in the Pan Am terrorist bombing authorized by this other madman, Gaddafi. Tell this mother what a great guy he was.
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But no, I am not justifying everything that NATO did in Libya.
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NATO is the only reason why Putin has not rolled over the former Eastern bloc countries. Why, Dienne, do you think they joined NATO to begin with? Why have Finland and Sweden and Ukraine now applied? DEFENSE against the guy who straightforwardly proclaims his intention to create a new Greater Russia.
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The guy who doesn’t even hide his delusional imperial ambitions
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Biden and his administration are trying to stop the demonization of trans children and trans young adults.
Putin is still working to demonize trans people.
How can any parent of a trans kid defend Putin? How can they not regret their vote to prevent a Democrat from filling an open Supreme Court seat so that the Republican could appoint 3 far right Supreme Court justices who would help enshrine the trans-hating Republican party by embracing the idea that not everyone deserves to vote anymore. And billionaires should be able to buy elections if they want.
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Exactly, NYC. Putin’s is deluded atavism.
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Republicans are allied with Putin in demonizing trans kids. They are a tiny proportion of the students and adults, but the GOP has turned them into the equivalent of the Big Red Menace. Instead of dealing with genuine problems, like low teacher pay and a national teacher shortage, the GOP’s education agenda is to stop teaching about racism and to deny medical care to trans kids. Republicans have become a fake political party, with no policies other than to oppress the Other.
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It is widely known and not in dispute that the Russian counteroffensive in 1943 could not have happened or been successful without U.S. Lend-Lease policy and workers in Detroit.
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https://www.detroitnews.com/picture-gallery/news/local/michigan-history/2014/12/05/home-front-detroit-the-arsenal-of-democracy-during-world-war-ii/19867159/
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And a great big shout out and thank you to the professionals at Narrative Strategies. Yes, narrative if not necessarily mythologizing. Quite the contrary. But narrative IS a primary manner in which we make sense of the world. This is one of the many things that the clueless David Coleman, with his puerile bullet list of “standards,” did not understand.
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Narrative is not necessarily mythologizing. Quite the contrary. Narrative sometimes clarifies the truth and sometimes mythologizes.
Most mythologizing narratives begin with a fanciful origin story. You know, like the one in Putin’s essay “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians,” presented in brief form in his recent speech on the occasion of the illegal annexation of parts of another UN member state.
Oh, and by the way, I held a vote in my kitchen this morning and annexed British Columbia to Boblandia.
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Bob,
Thanks for the belly laugh about British Columbia.
Have you considered Brooklyn?
I think you might win the popular vote without invading.
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Why do you feel the need to have someone tell you what “the truth” is by molding the narrative? All I need is documented events (from different points of view, with actual evidence such as photos and named witnesses) and then I can decide for myself what truth is.
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Dienne, I don’t care what you believe.
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Unfortunately, I do care what you believe, because your beliefs have been molded by the propaganda of the defense-contractor back U.S. war machine and when people with a platform like yours spread your beliefs, it generates hysteria for war that is going to get us all nuked.
Anyway, have great nights, all.
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I’m sorry you believe that I am incapable of thinking for myself.
I’m old enough to remember what happens when the West appeases an aggressive dictator.
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Why do you feel the need to have someone tell you what “the truth” is by molding the narrative?
This is an extraordinarily important political skill. It’s what the Democratic Party in the United States is so bad at doing because of all the DINOs in the party. The party loses because it cannot put together a unified message over and against Repugnican disinformation. Again, narrative is a fundamental method by which we make sense of the world. And it is very important which narratives are advanced and become current among the people, true narratives or Fascist mythologies about return to a mythical Golden Age (Making Germany or America ore Russia Great Again).
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If Democrats learned how to present unified and clear narratives, then they would never lose. For example, if they got behind the TRUE narrative that the U.S. is the only technologically advanced democracy without national health, that we pay TWICE as much per person for healthcare as those other countries do, and we have WORSE outcomes. A clear, compelling, truthful STORY to tell the people. But there are too many DINOs who suckle at the teat of the healthcare RICOs in the U.S. And so the Democrats always go to the people with a muddled message. Well, we sort of care about health more than they do.
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We live in uncertain times. This is but one threat.
Words such as these need to be voiced in order that each and every one of us is aware there can be no hiding.
Putin and his Kremlin Court have retired to an allegorical dark corner of denial. Those who will be at the sharp end of any nuclear weaponry will be starkly aware of the consequences, not just the use but the aftermaths. Those who have made comfy lifestyles in the wake of the 1990s and early decades of the 21st century will be concerned, frightened of losing those riches. Those whose thousands of sons, fathers, husbands, brothers and friends who have not come home will be tasting bitterness.
He might well decide to use nuclear weapons.
Whether he will survive their fallout is another matter.
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The world should never be put into a position where it has to wonder whether one man is crazy enough to end it for all of us. We must establish as the reality that the world is ruled by international law by giving this rule actual teeth.
Otherwise, the kind of thing that has happened here with Russia will continue to happen. All this power has been placed in the hands of one man, and now the entire world wonders, just how crazy is he? What if he actually cares for nothing and no one except himself? He has already established, over and over and over again, that he is a cold-blooded killer. For crying out loud, he initiated his career as president of Russia via bombings he arranged of innocent Russian civilians asleep in their apartments. Does Putin now think, well, if I go down, everyone goes with me? He wouldn’t be the first to have come to such an insane conclusion. We must not have a world in which monsters like this can emerge, in which that mutual deterrence breaks down.
Putin is threatening the entire world now. The UN should respond to these nuclear threats by delivering an ultimatum. Pull your forces out of Ukraine, including out of the illegally annexed territories of this other UN member state (in other words, abide by international law), OR we send in an overwhelming UN force and drive you out. If the UN does not act, NATO should move immediately to approve Ukraine’s application for membership and send in an overwhelming NATO force. The world must unite to enforce international law and to end the nuclear blackmail.
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And before anyone starts with the whataboutism, yes, the Second Iraq War was illegal under international law, and it involved war crimes, and those who ordered it should have been tried and convicted in the International Criminal Court.
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Every time RasPutin the Terrible threatens nuclear war, this is what I think about: what’s called Hitler’s Nero Decree.
“The decree came about after Hitler studied a memorandum sent to him on March 18 by his trusted Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer. Therein, Speer reported the German economy could only hold out another four to eight weeks. That was the absolute limit for the Third Reich’s war effort. In the text, Speer went on to urge Hitler to concentrate on doing everything possible for the country’s population to ensure their survival. Unmoved, Hitler did not yield an inch. In Gitta Sereny’s biography of Speer, Hitler is quoted as responding, ‘it is not necessary to worry about their [the German people’s] needs for elemental survival.’ ”
What if RasPutin the Terrible thinks like Hitler (simply insane) did back then and doesn’t care about the Russian people or the human race or the planet?
What if he’d rather see Russians dead or suffering from nuclear fallout and a nuclear winter because they failed to achieve RasPutin the Terrible’s goal to rebuild an almighty global spanning Soviet Empire.
In short, RasPutin the Terrible may by blaming the Russian people for his failures and he wants them to suffer along with the rest of the world.
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Exactly, Lloyd. The guy is a danger to Russia and the world. Clearly, he doesn’t give a ___ about Russians, as he is sending another 300,000 to one million hapless conscripts to the slaughter.
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Okay, brief response to the trans issue while I wait for the train. Here’s the thing. I can disagree with Putin about that (and other things) while still acknowledging that he may have a valid perspective on other issues. That’s called nuance, the loss of which appears to be a side effect of TDS.
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Sorry, I fail to see Putin’s “valid perspective.” You mean like his invasion of Ukraine? They say Mussolini made the trains run on time and Hitler built the autobahn. I think Mao cut taxes. Good to have a balanced view, I suppose.
The belief I will never give up is that dictatorship is a horrible form of government.
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As you probably know, Hitler dealt with the tanked German economy by borrowing heavily to finance building the Autobahn, cars, tanks, airplanes, and munitions. He got a lot of the money from U.S. banks. But then the payments started coming due. He owed so much that the only way for him to start repaying it was to invade other countries and appropriate their resources.
Mussolini didn’t make the trains run on time. He did embroil Italy in a disastrous war in Ethiopia, followed by the disastrous war alliance with Hitler.
These Fascists, whether coming to it from the left or the right, are always disasters.
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OMG
“I can disagree with Putin about that (and other things) while still acknowledging that he may have a valid perspective on other issues. That’s called nuance..”
“I can disagree with Hitler about the Jews (and other things) while still acknowledging that he may have a valid perspective on other issues. That’s called nuance…”
That is NOT called “nuance”. Murderous authoritarians and fascists do NOT get credit for their stances on some random issue that you happen to agree with.
That’s called COMPLICITY.
Do you truly not understand the difference between disagreeing with a policy under DEMOCRACY and under the authoritarian country that Putin rules?
Even during the reprehensible Iraq War, the politicians who disagreed were not conveniently meeting with accidents or locked up.
Democracy is messy, and it results in some awful leaders that do awful thing, but it has the capacity to change IF there aren’t enough deluded or complicit folks willing to destroy democracy itself with their arrogant certainty that they alone know the “truth”.
These folks would rather defend and normalize some murderous authoritarian leader that agrees with them on whatever policy they happen to like and they insanely believe that they have the moral high ground as long as they acknowledge that they disagree with that murderous authoritarian leader on other policies, that disagreement is no big deal and NORMAL.
Honestly, this post is a good example of exactly what the people in Germany who enabled Hitler told themselves.
“I don’t agree with Hitler about the Jews, but how about his good economic policies!”
“I don’t agree with Putin about the trans, but how about his fighting Nazis in Ukraine.”
THAT is why this country is in so much trouble. I wish that person was a troll, because the fact that she is real is a sign of the danger our democracy is in.
People who believe there is no difference between the flawed democracy of our country and Putin’s, so what’s the big deal if a Putin-type takes over the country? After all, that Putin-type has a “valid perspective” on how the Democrats are the source of all evil in this country that they happen to agree with!
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That second quote you created is quite a doozy and really does point to the absurdity of all of those “arguments.”
As to freedom of choice, there was an underground joke in East Germany that was popular in the early 80s. The humor doesn’t translate well into English, but you get the idea: In the U.S. they choose between Reagan and Carter. Here we choose between doing something in the morning or afternoon.
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^^^shorter version of above:
Dismissing a belief in democracy itself as “just one issue of disagreement but I like so many other policies that politician espouses” is truly Orwellian.
One doesn’t give up democracy in favor of authoritarianism no matter HOW APPEALING THE IDEAS OF AUTHORITARIANISM MIGHT SOUND TO YOU.
I should not even have to say that. Being an authoritarian is a DEAL-BREAKER.
Authoritarians are not to be trusted on ANYTHING. Even if they tell you they support some policy that is very important to you.
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“You know what uranium is, right? It’s this thing called nuclear weapons. And other things.”
–Stable Genius Donald J. Trump, in a press conference held February 15, 2017
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Reminds me of the first draft of the Constitution. “You guys know what freedom is, right? The people!! And other things.” Thankfully, Madison was there to revise it.
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“Nobody knows technology like Donald Trump.” –Donald Trump
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“The Cyber is big.” –Donald J. Trump
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