The Washington Post just reported that the FBI had advance warning of the violence on January 6 from one of its offices in Norfolk, Virginia.
A day before rioters stormed Congress, an FBI office in Virginia issued an explicit internal warning that extremists were preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and “war,” according to an internal document reviewed by The Washington Post that contradicts a senior official’s declaration the bureau had no intelligence indicating anyone at last week’s pro-Trump protest planned to do harm.
A situational information report approved for release the day before the U.S. Capitol riot painted a dire portrait of dangerous plans, including individuals sharing a map of the complex’s tunnels, and possible rally points for would-be conspirators to meet up in Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and South Carolina and head in groups to Washington.
“As of 5 January 2021, FBI Norfolk received information indicating calls for violence in response to ‘unlawful lockdowns’ to begin on 6 January 2021 in Washington. D.C.,” the document says. “An online thread discussed specific calls for violence to include stating ‘Be ready to fight. Congress needs to hear glass breaking, doors being kicked in, and blood from their BLM and Pantifa slave soldiers being spilled. Get violent. Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there ready for war. We get our President or we die. NOTHING else will achieve this goal.”
BLM is likely a reference to the Black Lives Matter movement for racial justice. Pantifa is a derogatory term for antifa, a far-left anti-fascist movement whose adherents sometimes engage in violent clashes with right-wing extremists.
Yet even with that information in hand, the report’s unidentified author expressed concern that the FBI might be encroaching on free speech rights.
The warning is the starkest evidence yet of the sizable intelligence failure that preceded the mayhem, which claimed the lives of five people, although one law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid disciplinary action, said the failure was not one of intelligence but of acting on the intelligence.
An FBI official familiar with the document said that within 45 minutes of learning about the alarming online conversation, the Norfolk FBI office wrote the report and shared it with others within the bureau. It was not immediately clear how many law enforcement agencies outside the FBI were told, but the information was briefed to FBI officials at the bureau’s Washington field office the day before the attack, this official said.
Vice:
With just days to go until the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden, law enforcement agencies are issuing fresh warnings of violent threats against lawmakers following last week’s insurrection at the Capitol.
Capitol Police reportedly warned members of Congress on Monday night that a group of pro-Trump armed insurrectionists plan to form a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House, and the Supreme Court, murdering Democrats who try to breach the line, and allowing Republicans to enter so they can take control of the government.
If this report is based on Intel from these radical extremists, we need thousands of members of the National Guard to defend the government. We should not underestimate what these domestic terrorists might do.
retired teacher: I’ve said it before. I wish Biden would do the inauguration virtually. There are too many loonies out there who are viciously planning to attack and kill Biden, Harris and any Democrats.
This is SICKENING.
Pence, the lap dog-chicken-sh*t, wouldn’t invoke the 25th amendment so the Democrats are going to impeach Trump. Trump showed no remorse, blaming impeachment itself for the “tremendous anger” in America.
Carolmalaysia……It would betray Pence’s religious beliefs to invoke the 25th Amendment. He and trump had “a talk” and I’m sure that there was a “sorry-not sorry” from the Orange Menace. Pence will turn the other cheek even though trump put him (and his family) in eminent danger.
Biden should hold the inauguration in New York City, which was the nation’s first capital. NYC would be thrilled. Virtual would be great and safe. We don’t need a big display this year.
Media report members of the Secret Service must have known- at least one is under investigation for participation.
The Hill:
Prosecutors building sedition, conspiracy charges against some Capitol rioters
The Department of Justice (DOJ) is working to build sedition and conspiracy charges against some of the rioters who stormed the Capitol last week, the top federal prosecutor for Washington, D.C., said Tuesday.
Michael Sherwin, the acting U.S. Attorney for D.C., said in a press conference that he has assembled a team of national security attorneys to explore some of the harshest charges his office could pursue in the wake of the riot that overran the Capitol and left five people dead last Wednesday.
We need to purge law enforcement of bad actors and anyone affiliated with white supremacy or domestic terrorist groups at all levels of law enforcement.
The unpublished report was too little, too late and it appears to have been more concerned about free speech than stopping the rioters who had announced their intention to “Get violent. Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there ready for war. We get our President or we die. NOTHING else will achieve this goal.”
There have been plenty of online investigative reports with names of the provocateurs, the organizations they represent, and how they have used the internet to coordinate their activities. These date back to last year.
The latest trick for Trumpsters is to tap talent in exchanging encrypted messages. https://www.vox.com/recode/22226618/what-is-signal-whatsapp-telegram-download-encrypted-messaging
How could they NOT have known!!! OF COURSE THEY KNEW!! I live 25 miles outside of DC and the “flags were flying” on the roads and highways for 1-2 days before the riot. I knew what would happen and made sure that I had no place to go that would be near the DC area. This was an inside job….in that people in high places made a choice to ignore the threat to elected politicians so that they could show fealty to trump. And it’s coming out now that some of the police officers left their brother and sisters in arms hanging out to dry so that they could help in the takedown, too. We are the laughing stock of the world.
I live in Buffalo and I knew there was going to be trouble. You didn’t need to be in the FBI or CIA to have heard that the Trump followers intended to meet and make a ruckus
The question is “Who prevented the appropriate precautions?” And “What got in the way of law enforcement coming to the rescue once the Capitol was breached?” Whether it was Presidential interference or the ineptitude of those in charge – heads should roll,
On December 11, after the Supreme Court rejected the lawsuit filed by Texas calling upon it to throw out the certified votes of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Texas Republican Party Chairman Alan West released a statement saying,
“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.”
West later denied that he was calling for secession, which is, of course, treasonous, but clearly many Republicans in Texas and around the country heard what his statement seems clearly to say. I checked out the Texas Republican Party website in the days following that statement, and it was FLOODED with calls for Civil War. Yes, CIVIL WAR.
BTW, 106 traitorous Congress members signed onto that lawsuit asked the Court to nullify the voting rights of the people of four states. Sickening. This is sedition, and every one of those traitors to democracy should be expelled from Congress.
I agree those at the top should be held accountable.
And any of the underlings who aided and abetted.
But I’m willing to bet most of the Capitol Police were just trying to do the best they could in a bad situation for which they were undermanned. And if they had just started shooting, a lot more people would undoubtedly have been killed, so they actually prevented a bad situation from becoming catastrophic.
What if a few shots would have prevented anybody from entering the Capitol? Is it possible that the less than forceful defence just encourages the rogue elements of the 74 million Trump supporters, and we may have to look forward to lots of lives’ lost?
One of the most wellknown Hungarian writers gave this advise to his daughter “No doubt, you need to be good. But before your are good, be strong. If people only see that you are good, they will think you are weak and a fool,and they will lake advantage of you.”
I am not sure, the Capitol Police appeared strong, and I do not think this threat of violence will end next week with the inauguration.
And they also protected the members of Congress which was their most important function at any rate.
Well, they did get lucky there too. AOC’s story sounds really bad.
From MoveOn:
In shocking new reports, we are learning that QAnon-supporting Congresswoman Lauren Boebert live-tweeted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s location and movements during the white supremacist attack on Capitol Hill last week, in what appears to have been an effort to help the racist mob locate the speaker.
If that is true, I’m sure she’ll get her just desserts.
Hopefully,it will be “jello” and served in prison.
We have all these super dooper spy agencies: FBI, NSA, Secret Service, Pentagon, plus the Capitol Police and God knows what else and yet the Capitol was invaded with impunity. Let’s hope they do better for the Inauguration.
Side note, where was Alex Jones? I expected to see him ranting and raving on the sidelines. He wasn’t needed, there were enough lunatics there for 4 ocean liners and then some.
Where was Alex Jones?….undercover and staying safe because he knew what was going to happen. Jones is no better than trump with his lying and bloviating to the crazy masses. They (trump, Jones, Hannity etc) made these monsters and they enjoy watching the side show.
I just saw a PBS special about Alex Jones and he was in DC on Jan 6 with his megaphone inciting the crowd, or one small section of the massive mob. I guess he didn’t enter the Capitol building?
Lisa and All ICYDK, last night’s PBS FRONTLINE did a program on Alex Jones called “The United States of Conspiracy.” Excellent coverage. CBK
Tell me again why these people are advocating for 45? What did he do in the last four years that they are so enamored for him? (shaking head in disbelief)
Cheryl, I have been trying to figure it out for four years. I have never figured out anything, other than people see in him what they want to see, and he reflects back their racism, misogyny, and grievance against everyone who thinks they are better than him.
Perhaps they can’t admit they were wrong and are doubling down in their opinion, unable or unwilling to accept the truth.
Recent studies shed light, “acceptance of a dominant male hierarchy predicted a positive evaluation of trump over and above any sexist, racist or homophobic attitude a voter may have”. The two major, conservative religions in the U.S. are very invested in the continuation of a male hierarchy. And, I speculate, based on historical prejudice, a white male hierarchy. Trump’s “successes” have been their agenda.
The Christian Recorder, 1-3-2021, “Why religion and politics are at play in Georgia” informs about context.
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Our military, and our police forces at all levels, have a white supremacy problem that some leaders have acknowledged and that they need to get a grip on. It needs to be made very, very clear to every member on the line that participation in hate groups is a disqualification for service.
This is why I worry about how safe Biden and Harris will be when the inauguration occurs. Who can be trusted?
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Online Police Communities Are Rife With Conspiracies And Support For The Capitol Riot
…At least 13 law enforcement personnel from eight states reportedly attended the riot and are under investigation for their alleged roles in the unrest — including a police chief and an officer wearing a hat with the text, “Trump 2020; Fuck your Feelings.” Many former cops joined the mob, too; a retired Oakland officer who rioted told local media that the insurrectionists would accept the legal consequences of their actions if “the Democrats who committed fraud take the criminal charges of treason.” A former North Miami Beach officer even livestreamed from inside the Capitol, telling his viewers, “The people give the power. And we’re here to take it back.”
Numerous officers who were dispatched to defend the Capitol were also caught on camera shaking rioters’ hands, posing with them for selfies and passively allowing them to bypass police barriers and launch their assault, which was inspired by Trump’s relentless, evidence-free claims that the election was stolen from him through mass voter fraud. The cops’ seemingly friendly demeanor harshly contrasts the brutal force with which American police descended upon racial justice protesters nationwide following the killing of George Floyd.
Police officers’ apparent involvement in last week’s deadly and unlawful insurrection makes clear just how effective the president’s onslaught of disinformation has been at radicalizing people — even members of law enforcement — to try to keep him in power by any means necessary. Some elements of the nation’s police have closely aligned with Trump and embraced anti-democratic conspiracy theories over the rule of law, and to anyone monitoring these online groups, that’s been clear for a long time…
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As if Biden doesn’t have enough to deal with, with the plague, he’s got an incipient civil war on his hands and all kinds of armed crazies ready to apply their so called “2nd amendment rights!” This is truly scary on so many levels. The Inauguration should probably be held indoors given that these right wing goons are armed with high powered sniper rifles and home made bombs.
Absolutely. F**k tradition and whatever. Do the procedure quickly indoors, then get on with the business of fixing the country. Let’s not pretend that we are fine and we can get on with our lives as usual.
Given the credible threats, the swearing in should be done in a small ceremony and the actual inauguration postponed until later in the year when things have calmed down.
But I have a sinking feeling that some Biden advisers may be pushing full speed ahead with the regular inauguration simply to “show the world that we won’t be cowed”.
If that is indeed the case, it’s utterly foolish.
Theater is always more important than appropriate action. It takes 2-3 years into a war for leaders to start acting as generals instead of actors.
Just listen to all these speeches in Congress in the past week.
But it would not surprise me in the least.
Unbelievable. Well, it is. Still, unbelievable.
Nothing is unbelievable.. except maybe Cold Fusion.
And even then I’m not 100% sure.
And space aliens from planet X.
Or Planet Claire
In particular , I don’t believe you can drive a Plymouth Satellite faster than the speed of light, which is what would be required to get from Planet Claire to here in a reasonable amount of time.
Then again, if she drove the Plymouth Satellite fast enough , just ever ever so slightly less than the speed of light, the distance between Planet Claire and here (in direction of motion) would shrink down enough for the Claireans to make the trip in a reasonable time (in their reference frame).
So maybe it’s not impossible. But not very probable.
So maybe Im not 100% sure space aliens are unbelievable either.
This is enough material SDP to get your own talk show about unbelievable events, theories and how they can enrich our lives and thinking.
Good idea
I’ll call it “SomeDAM Talk Show where nothing is unbelievable “
I’d make it more positive and action oriented “A Damn talk show where we make the unbelievable believable”.
But I would not want to give the impression that “nothing” is actually believable.
Some physicists might believe the universe came from nothing but I don’t.
I have to have some standards. Otherwise people will think I am a crackpot.
Does it help your worldview if I remind you that the whole of mathematics is built from assuming the existence of nothing: the empty set? In other words, in math, we can say everything is built from the thing which has nothing in it. Since everything in science has a mathematical model )or it’s not scientific enough), our Universe likely came from nothing.
And I don’t wish to be known as SomeDAM crackpot
Space Alien knows, there are already plenty of those on the talk show circuit
I am getting sick of hearing “freedom” and “free speech”. After choice now free is also twisted beyond recongnition.
“Religious liberty” is code for taking away Americans’ rights under civil law.
Yes, religious liberty is treated by the current Supreme Court as more important than civil rights.
For his success in the appointment of conservative judges, Leonard Leo received an award from one of his sect’s organizations. Bill Barr
also received an award for his contribution.
Libertarian is now synonymous with anarchist.
Liberty for me, and anarchy for thee.
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I’ve come to the conclusion, not being snarky here at all, that being adherent to libertarianism is an indicator of stunted cognitive development. There is an intellectual immaturity in these beliefs that is undeniable upon deep investigation.
You could be right. Or they simply have been influenced by Western movies, where tough loners are the heroes.
Mate and GregB I think it’s cognitive, but not with basic intelligence, which many bullies have; but with their self-serving-only viewpoint and stunted moral-ethical development . . . which speak of personal horizons . . . these ARE a part of human cognitive development.
But Mate is onto something . . . the old idea of the isolated cowboy (Shane) with a temper (John Wayne) or “The Wild Bunch” for many of us as the ideal male paradigm is still pervasive. As with racism and sexism, we talk the talk but many haven’t really become integrated enough to be spontaneous about it . . . or learned how to walk the walk. CBK
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo abruptly canceled his final trip abroad as the nation’s top diplomat while some of his aides were already on the ground in Belgium for his first stop. Pompeo also reportedly planned to visit Luxembourg on Thursday, but the meeting fell through after the country’s foreign minister called Trump a “political pyromaniac” and a “criminal” for inciting the rioters.
Carol,
No EU Minister would meet with Pompeo.
Why should they?
Waste of time.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said she feared that GOP lawmakers who knew where she was would tip off rioters to her location. “I can tell you that I had a very close encounter where I thought I was going to die,” she said last night in an Instagram Live video, noting that she couldn’t get into specifics for security reasons. “I did not know if I was going to make it to the end of that day alive.”
No doubt, AOC, Bernie, Schumer, Pelosi were the prime targets.
And probably the rest of the squad as well, especially Omar and Tlaib
One of the things that confounds me is why none of their strongest enablers in Congress were not out in the crowds trying to quell the seditious activities. Where were Jordan, Biggs, Goslar, Gaetz, the Qanon idiots from Georgia, Colorado and NC who were just sworn in? You’d think they’d have been out there trying to calm people down. Could it be that they’re just like all bullies, cowards at their core?
They might have been conspirators.
Greg,
Why weren’t the enablers trying to calm the mob?
Look at the videos. A mob is a fierce beast. No one can control it. They would have either joined it or been beaten.
Lauren Boebert too. She’s the gun-toting QAnon crazy from Colorado. She tweeted the mob that Pelosi had left the House floor.
Was she arrested?
With her members still fuming that Republicans refused to wear masks while they were sheltering in place, Pelosi announced that anyone not wearing a mask on the House floor will be fined $500 for their first offense and $2,500 for their second.
Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) wrote a letter, which 66 of her colleagues signed, imploring McCarthy to require his Republican members to wear masks.
Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Ill.) tested positive on Tuesday after being stuck in the safe room for hours. Colby Itkowitz reports that he has been super careful: “His wife has a health condition that makes her high risk if she contracted the coronavirus. He drives the nearly 12 hours from his home in eastern Illinois to Washington rather than fly.”
Just being stuck in a small room for hours with Republican members of Congress would be bad enough, even if they had masks on.
But maybe if they were all under cones of silence it would be tolerable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Get_Smart-Cone-of-silence.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
Ideally, they would have portable cones of silence that Republican Senators and Reps wore wherever they went.
Yeah, how about a pocket cone of silence? You can just keep it in your vallet. I see great marketing opportunity here. Republicans will stand in long lines to get one of these to show their concerns for the health of other people. 🙂
Good idea. Kinda like the Pocket Fisherman, the Pocket Cone of Silence.
But I don’t have a vallet , so I’d have to sell them myself.
Maybe just an inflatable balloon that they could stick in their mouth would work just as well.
Of just Duck tape.
It would be great if the only words they could say were “quack”. Duct tape would also work, then they could only mumble.
I never really thought about it until now, but those things they had on Get Smart were not actually cones, but really hemispheres attached to cylinders.
Obviously, they did not consult with a mathematician for the program.
Cylinder of Silence even sounds better than Cone of Silence.
But maybe someone already had a trademark on Cylinder of Silence and they did not want to pay a licensing fee.
Sphere of Silence sounds even better.
Now that’s almost a Simon and Garfunkel song.
And an outfit for Lady Gaga.
What happens now? Is this just the beginning of the end of democracy, that we implode just as our enemies have been waiting to see happen. Putin et al may have won without firing a shot. It becomes almost impossible to win a war from the outside when the inside makes a country so very vulnerable.
But we just saw that the US was in the same position as Germany 100 years ago, but made the correct choice during the elections and, in case there were doubts, it did the correct thing in Georgia on Jan. 5th. Then it implemented a high speed impeachment which forced Adolph Trump to upload peace requesting video to Twitter.
I’d say, our hopes are not baseless.
Gordon Wilder I think that’s why we have to go at our present political situation with the intensity of a committed MD curing cancer in their mother or child. And the cure cannot kill the patient. CBK