Trump spent four years cultivating his friendship with Putin. No matter what Vlad did to violate human rights, Trump was silent. Now Secretary of State Mike Pompeo acknowledges what reports reported for days: the Russian government hacked into the “secure” networks of every federal agency, where they roamed at will for several months. No word yet from Trump. He has abandoned his day job and spends all his time tweeting about the election and scheming to overturn it. His friend Michael Flynn suggested sending the military into key states and forcing them to hold new elections.
Meanwhile, back in the real world…
Russian agents hacked into major U.S. government agencies, and their presence went undetected for months. The extent of the damage to American security is not yet known.
Craig Timberg and Ellen Takashima wrote in the Washington Post:
Federal investigators reported Thursday on evidence of previously unknown tactics for penetrating government computer networks, a development that underscores the disastrous reach of Russia’s recent intrusions and the logistical nightmare facing federal officials trying to purge intruders from key systems.
For days, it has been clear that compromised software patches distributed by a Texas-based company, SolarWinds, were central to Russian efforts to gain access to U.S. government computer systems. But Thursday’s alert from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency at the Department of Homeland Security said evidence suggested there was other malware used to initiate what the alert described as “a grave risk to the Federal Government and state, local, tribal, and territorial governments as well as critical infrastructure entities and other private sector organizations.”
While many details remained unclear, the revelation about new modes of attack raises fresh questions about the access that Russian hackers were able to gain in government and corporate systems worldwide.
“This adversary has demonstrated an ability to exploit software supply chains and shown significant knowledge of Windows networks,” the alert said. “It is likely that the adversary has additional initial access vectors and tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) that have not yet been discovered.”
The U.S. government has not publicly blamed Russia for the hacks [they have now, with Pompeo’s admission Friday night], but U.S. officials speaking privately say that Russian government hackers were behind the operation. Moscow has denied involvement. [Lying as usual]
The alert cited a blog post this week from Volexity, a Reston, Va.-based cybersecurity company, about repeated intrusions into an unnamed think tank that, according to the company, took place over several years without being detected. The attackers, who are described using a pseudonym in the Volexity post, gained access to the think tank’s networks using “multiple tools, backdoors, and malware implants” and exploited a vulnerability in Microsoft’s Exchange Control Panel software, which is central to the company’s email services.
In a statement, Microsoft said, “This is an ongoing investigation into an advanced and sophisticated threat actor that has several techniques in their toolkit. We have not identified any Microsoft product or cloud service vulnerabilities in the recent attacks.”
Only the last of three separate intrusions against the think tank, in June and July, involved a corrupted patch from SolarWinds, suggesting an aggressive, persistent hacking team with sophisticated tactics at its disposal.
The Department of Energy and the National Nuclear Security Administration, which manages the country’s nuclear weapons stockpile, were also breached, officials said Thursday, joining a growing list of agencies reported in recent days to have been hacked by the Russians and that are central to U.S. national security and other core government functions. They include the State, Treasury, Commerce and Homeland Security departments, as well as the National Institutes of Health.
Politico first reported the breaches at the Energy Department and NNSA.
An Energy Department spokeswoman, Shaylyn Hynes, said that at this point, the investigation has found that the malware has been isolated to business networks and has not affected the department’s “mission essential national security functions,” including at the NNSA. Thousands of private companies worldwide also were potentially affected, many in sensitive industries, after they uploaded software patches that were infused with malware, reportedly by Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the SVR.
Purging the intruders and restoring security to affected networks could take months, some experts say, because the hackers moved rapidly from the initial intrusions through the corrupted software patches to collect and deploy authentic system credentials, making discovery and remediation far more difficult. Closing the digital back doors initially created by the Russians will not suffice because they appear to have stolen keys to an unknown number of official doorways into federal and private corporate systems, according to investigators at FireEye, a cybersecurity firm that also was hacked.
On Monday, Microsoft and FireEye diverted the channel the Russians used to send commands to systems that download the corrupted patch, causing the malware to shut down. But that does not help those organizations whose networks the Russians have deeply penetrated.
The intruders into the U.S.-based think tank in each case were searching for email from particular targets, according to Steven Adair, president of Volexity. Only the Exchange vulnerability was Microsoft-related, but through it, the hackers were able to act as system administrators for the think tank’s network.
“If you can exploit it, it’s a pretty direct way into somebody’s infrastructure, with pretty high-level access,” Adair said.
Meanwhile, the SolarWinds issue continues to vex federal officials. The agency that runs the Department of Defense’s sprawling communications network downloaded a poisoned SolarWinds update that potentially exposed the agency’s network to the Russian hackers, according to U.S. officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.
It is unclear whether the hackers used their access to the Defense Information Systems Agency to steal any data from the department’s networks, the officials said. So far, there is no evidence they have, but the investigation is in its early stages, they said.
“We’re just at the front end of figuring out the points of contact and what might have been left behind,” said one U.S. official. “We’re taking it very seriously. We don’t know as much as we’d like to know. We’ll keep going till we do.”
DISA is the department’s information technology nerve center. Besides running its own network, which houses billions of dollars of contracts and computer network designs, it runs the Defense Department’s unclassified intranet, which serves 4 million to 5 million personnel around the globe, including contractors and troops in combat zones.
A defense official acknowledged Thursday that “our software supply chain experienced a cyber attack to their systems…”
Experts were skeptical of the notion that the Russians would gain access to a Defense Department network — especially one as sensitive as DISA — and not exploit it over many months of presumed access.
“DOD is one of the top priority targets for Russian intelligence,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, a cybersecurity expert and executive chairman of the Silverado Policy Accelerator think tank. “I can’t imagine a situation where, given an opportunity like this, they would not take advantage of it to get inside, roam around and try to steal as much sensitive data as they could related to force structure and readiness, weapons systems, and other issues of strategic concern to them.”
On Monday, the National Security Council convened an emergency meeting of agencies under a 2016 presidential order to address coordination on a “significant cyber event,” according to an official. Key agencies present were the FBI, Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
President-elect Joe Biden said in a statement Thursday that he is seeking to learn as much as he can about the breaches. As president, he said, he will work with allies to impose costs on those responsible for such actions. “I will not stand idly by in the face of cyber assaults on our nation,” he said.
trump and putin are “into” each other.
Vlad’s investment in Agent Orange paid off handsomely, huh?
Trump tweeted today that China was behind the hack, and it wasn’t serious anyway. “Russia,Russia, Russia,” he tweeted. Did he speak to Pompeo?
Neurologists hack into Trump’s brain. Find nothing there but a hoarder’s trailer full of old resentments and insecurities.
Like, Bob! (I don’t really know how to set like so you’d get an email, so I’ll just say it here!)
This is a serious breach of national intelligence. Agent Orange seems to not understand or care about the potential extent of the damage. What is worse Trump took some of the cyber security budget in order to fund his useless wall.
In a recent interview John Bolton said that the NSA finally discovered the breach months after it happened. He said he disagreed with the process of farming out some of the cyber security work to private contractors. As we have seen privatization often makes everything worse, more costly, and in this case, less secure. There is something to be said for government services remaining in the purview of the federal government when national security is at stake.
BTW. my nephew is a software engineer that used to work for a company that subcontracted to the NSA. The owner of the company was former NSA employee. Workers actually were part owners of the company. When the boss retired, the company was sold to Boeing. Employees had to option to work for Boeing’s salaried position or cash in the stock and leave. My nephew opted to leave. It was only after he left that I found out that he had worked for an NSA subcontractor in Washington, D.C.
What bothered me about the post was that the incursion occurred in the “software supply chain.” Sometimes privatization is not the best solution to a problem. If the NSA had done the security work in house, there would a lot less mystery about the “software supply chain.” My mother used say, “Too many cooks spoil the broth.” Maybe this old adage applies to our national cyber security.
retired teacher The below link is about China, but it concerns your note also: CBK
https://www.noemamag.com/the-u-s-and-china-can-stop-ai-warfare-before-it-starts/
My husband, an engineer, retired (27 yrs) from NSA 5 yrs ago and now works for an NSA contractor because he has high security clearance. This privatization has been going on for a long while. It ramped up during the Obama Admin when the Tea Party shut down the government. The reopening conditions (sequestration) were that the Fed Gov’t needed to restructure (drown the Fed Gov’t)….this has NOT been good as many Fed employees are now working in positions/posts that don’t align with their qualifications. The Fed Gov’t Security sector and Cyber Command are a disaster as knowledgable employees “retire” to other jobs/careers and the rest keep moving from dept. to dept. trying to find a fit for their skill base until retirement. This is the reason we have Russia entering through the “back door”….the GOP with their demands have given the Russians the keys to the door. The worst part is that the Military is in grave danger because of this.
According to MSNBC, a company in California called FireEye is the alleged source of the Russian hackers’ incursion. https://www.fireeye.com/partners.html
“What bothered me about the post was that the incursion occurred in the “software supply chain.” Sometimes privatization is not the best solution to a problem. If the NSA had done the security work in house, there would a lot less mystery about the “software supply chain.”
Outsourcing government enabled by deficit hysterics and busnesslike efficiency dogma has undermined & weakened our capacity to build robust govt agencies. Couple that with 30 years of hiring freezes and Trump’s disastrous budget cuts to agencies and this is what we get.
Richard Clarke predicted in 2006 that the US was unprepared for cyber breaches and our agencies were vulnerable to attacks from hostile governments. Rather than rebuilding in-house capacity and institutional memory we followed the same failed neoliberal ideology.
Another big problem is that, despite their reputation for being tech gurus, some of the people who work in “IT security” (sic) are actually incompetent nitwits.
I once worked as a software engineer for a tech company doing government contracts where the fellow hired to be head of network “security” unwittingly opened up the company’s internal network to the world wide web!
He installed a new router and by doing so removed the firewall that I had previously painstakingly put in place.
“Sometimes privatization is not the best solution to a problem”
Sometimes?
I’d say it rarely is.
What it means is substandard product for bloated prices.
I used to just laugh whenever the fellow “Charles” used to post here about the wonders of private defense contracting.
The system is designed to make the maximum profits. That’s all.
trump knew.
ON WITH THE CON this just in from the Washington Post:
“Trump, contradicting Pompeo, attempts to downplay gravity of massive hack of U.S. government, as well as Russia’s role
“’I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control,’ President Trump tweeted, also suggesting without evidence that China ‘may be’ responsible. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Friday that Russia was behind the ongoing attacks.”
For Trump’s Gravestone: “I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control.”
Maybe. CBK
When the day comes and Trump shuffles off the mortal coil, I think his tombstone should read:
Here lies Donald Trump. But that’s nothing new.
Vlad’s Agent Orange. Moscow’s Asset Governing America (MAGA). And, ofc, Trump’s last-minute major grift–diverting half his campaign funds to consulting fees for his children.
Bob Shepherd “Here’ lies” . . . .I like it. Another friend added another suggestion:
“Urinate here.” <–did I write that? CBK
Another good one! Thanks for the laugh on a chilly, gray & generally depressing day.
My “thanks” comment landed under CBK’s, but was meant for your tombstone comment, Bob.
You are on a roll today, Bob! (of course, you always have great comments 🙂
All this at a time when Russia has developed hypersonic nuclear missiles and is testing missiles that can eliminate satellites.
Begin Quote.
On March 23, 1983, President Reagan proposed the creation of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), an ambitious project that would construct a space-based anti-missile system. This program was immediately dubbed “Star Wars.”
The SDI was intended to defend the United States from attack from Soviet ICBMs by intercepting the missiles at various phases of their flight. For the interception, the SDI would require extremely advanced technological systems, yet to be researched and developed. Among the potential components of the defense system were both space- and earth-based laser battle stations, which, by a combination of methods, would direct their killing beams toward moving Soviet targets.
Air-based missile platforms and ground-based missiles using other non-nuclear killing mechanisms would constitute the rear echelon of defense and would be concentrated around such major targets as U.S. ICBM silos. The sensors to detect attacks would be based on the ground, in the air, and in space, and would use radar, optical, and infrared threat-detection systems.
This system would tip the nuclear balance toward the United States. The Soviets feared that SDI would enable the United States to launch a first-strike against them. Critics (my late nephew among them) pointed to the vast technological uncertainties of the system, in addition to its enormous cost.
Although work was begun on the program, the technology proved to be too complex and much of the research was cancelled by later administrations. The idea of missile defense system would resurface later as the National Missile Defense. Source https://www.atomicarchive.com/history/cold-war/page-20.html
Here is more about the current program. Trump has often confused the terms Hydrosonic a brand of toothbrush) with Hypersonic, a weapon system. More at https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/pentagon-hypersonic-missile/index.html
In other words Bob “this time” has been with us for a very long time. Trump has no grasp of the destructive force we are both talking about.
Another family story: My late brother who worked as an engineer on missile and satellite technologies under federal contracts said he encountered more security at the toy-making company Mattel than in his workplaces working on US military contracts.
Wow. Have you read Command and Control, by Eric Schlosser? Highly recommended. Yeah, we live in a country in which the Air Force just might accidentally drop a hydrogen bomb in one’s backyard.
Lots of “defense” contractors and prostitute scientists at Universities made lots of money on Star Wars.
No scientist worth his or her salt would have taken money for that boondoggle.
I heard they had developed hyperphotonic (faster than light) missiles and are testing missiles get can eliminate the sun.
They apparently rely on alien technology hacked from the servers at Area 51.
lol
Hilarious, as usual SDP! Makes me want to watch the Ed Wood film
Plan 9 From Outer Space, which I have yet to see.
Anyone here see it?
Saw it. It is so trashy that it is hilarious.
By the way.
All ballistic missiles with intercontinental trajectories (ICBMs of Russians US) are hypersonic (which is generally meant to describe speeds greater than about 5 x the speed of sound (Mach 5) and have been since day one because they have to have a certain velocity to travel the distance they do.
They reach max speeds round 15000 mph, which is about Mach 20.
Understood re: standard ballistic missiles going faster than sound. But this is the name that is being used for the Mach 5-7 missiles now being developed and recently fielded by Russia, ofc. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R45811.pdf
There has always been some supposed “gap” between what the Russia possesses and what we possess in the military arena.
Usually it is used as a ploy for more dollars for weapons contractors and often it has turned out to be fictional.
The best example is the supposed (ballistic) missile gap when it was variously claimed that Russia had hundreds of even thousands of ballistic missiles aimed at the US when they actually had 4!
A lot of this type of stuff is just hype: hypersonic sounds very impressive to most people who don’t realize that hypersonic missiles and even aircraft have been around for a long time.
Oh my god, they have hypersonic missiles!! Throw $50 billion more onto the already bloated defense budget!!
If Russia has developed “hypersonic missiles”, I suspect they are intended as part of an ABM (anti ballistic missile) defense, after the US unilaterally pulled out of the ABM Treaty.
And if Russia is wasting money on an ABM system, that’s all it is , a waste because an ABM system would never be effective against the thousands of missiles we have aimed at them.
But as we have seen with so many other things of this sort, ABM systems tend to lead to an arms race so they actually destabilize an already tenuous situation.
Thousands of missiles, including cruise missiles, which are extremely difficult to find and destroy.
Daniel Ellsberg has had a lot to say about these supposed “gaps” and the hype(ersonic claims) that goes along with them.
The lesson is to maintain a healthy dose of skepticism about all of this stuff.
Calling this a “hack” might be propaganda itself.
That presupposes that no one in Trump’s close orbit was complicit.
Very good point.
I wonder just how much Moscow’s Asset Governing America (MAGA) has compromised our national security. Now there’s an untold story!
Our scientists and engineers have done a bang up job compromising security for decades.
Trump just added icing to the cake.
We should really hire Russian and Chinese hackers to protect us because our own people are idiots.
I hope, in fact, that we are doing this.
The primary interest of our own “defense” companies is making money, which necessarily means cutting corners and producing substandard stuff that’s full of bugs and security holes and sometimes does not even work.
Anyone who doubts this should do a search of “Ted Postol”
Wow. The stories about Postol’s work are disturbing!
We used to have the best scientists and engineers but that has not been the case for a long time.
If it’s not the pandemic, it’s cyber (in)security.
Stick a fork in us. We’re done scientifically speaking.
Really worried about this, here. Could be a great nightmare–attacks on the financial and energy infrastructure systems. Do you remember, SomeDAM, a film from the 1960s called The Forbin Project?
The Boeing crashes are another good example of how far science and engineering have fallen in recent decades.
It was not just that the engineers and scientists were overruled by managers bent on maximizing profit.
The engineering systems like MCAS that were put in place were also just garbage, designed by engineering morons.
The MCAS system relied completely on just a single sensor and the default setting was to overrule the pilot.
That’s just an idiotic design.
No one who has any clue at all about engineering (or even about common sense) would ever make a safety critical system whose success and failure relied on just a single sensor.
The engineers who designed and worked on that should never work on any safety critical engineering again.
But they probably all got promotions because that’s how things work in the American “meritocracy”.
The GAGA folks (as Duane Swacker calls them) get the promotions and the whistleblowers get fired.
Richard Feynman had it exactly right when he said that
For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled”.
He said that after the Challenger explosion, over 30 years ago.
We have learned precisely nothing as a country since.
If anything, things have gotten worse.
Bob,
What was just as — if not more — disturbing was the way he was treated for his whistleblowing. MIT and the government tried to silence him.
But as we have seen in recent years, things have since just gotten worse for whistleblowers.
Truth telling has become a crime.
Incidentally MIT treated a woman whistleblower on the Epstein affair (Signe Swensen) in a similar manner, trying to get her to keep the Epstein secret.
She eventually reigned and went to the media because no one at MIT was listening to her.
MIT subsequently effectively whitewashed the whole thing.
MIT puts funding above everything else.
Yes, I read a truly disturbing story about Epstein and the Media Lab. Happy to take his money, give him an office, sweep any troubling stuff under the rug.
$100 to the first person who can provide me actual proof that the hack actually happened and that the Russians were to blame. No, telling me that some alphabet soup agency said so is not proof. Evidence, please.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/12/18/secret-invisible-evidence-of-russian-hacking-is-not-actually-evidence/
The Trump years broke y’all’s brains. It used to be liberals that were skeptical of anonymous, evidence free claims from the agencies that exist to lie to and propagandize us. Now you buy it hook, line and sinker because … Trump.
dienne77 Twisted again. CBK
It is especially twisted when you recall that all the sworn testimony during the impeachment hearings (and the refusal of Trump White House to testify under oath) was mischaracterized by the same people as simply not enough proof of any wrongdoing by the always innocent Trump!
Neither was the Mueller Report enough proof!
But Trump’s word is always proof! They don’t even care if he or any of his close associates testify under oath!
Of course, the hypocrisy is that they don’t need any stinkin’ proof to condemn a democrat!
NYC public school parent I respond with such brevity to Dienne77 because it’s always the same twisted dogma. It’s all surface sxxt. When we go where she is, we have already lost what sense of openness and genuine discussion we otherwise might have had and DO have elsewhere on this site. CBK
CBK,
You are right, but she also posts some of the most direct insults at all of us which I feel need to be addressed.
“The Trump years broke y’all’s brains.”
That isn’t even twisted dogma. It is an ugly attack to imply we are all brainless and we owe it to much smarter people like herself to shut up.
When people resort to those kinds of insults, you wonder if they know deep down that they are wrong.
NYC I feel the insult and recognize such posts as severe hypocrisy too; which is why I respond at all. But in fact it’s all controversialist garbage aimed at pushing all of our buttons.
At worst, and because of its consistency, I think it’s probably planned and paid for red herrings to detract from the more serious stuff that’s presently going on? “Watch what they do?” But it certainly doesn’t fly anywhere near reasonable discourse. CBK
CBK, you are right. I will do better with responding to this. Thank you for your kind and polite reminder!
NYC . . . and the double-standard is so obvious. CBK
Wouldn’t it be more correct to say that you don’t buy it hook, line and sinker because … Trump said it didn’t happen?
Some people always assume Trump is telling the truth and everyone else is lying. That’s their prerogative In fact, those are exactly the people demanding Trump get the military to make sure he stays in office.
We are also buying “hook, line and sinker” that Biden won the election, but many people do not because …. Trump.
Why do you bring Trump into this? I said nothing about him. Just the other day you “apologized” for putting words in my mouth, but here you are doing it again. So how sorry were you, really? I don’t want to hear any more BS apologies from you. I want to see you reflect on your behavior, which is consistently abusive to anyone you disagree with.
Trump says the Chinese hacked the government, not Russia. So he admits there was hacking. Is he lying too?
“Trump, contradicting Pompeo, attempts to downplay gravity of massive hack of U.S. government, as well as Russia’s role
“’I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control,’ President Trump tweeted, also suggesting without evidence that China ‘may be’ responsible.”
You linked to Caitlin Johnston during the impeachment hearings and Mueller Report release and now, always (coincidentally) promoting exactly the point of view that Trump is promoting. Trump’s view is always right, and critics of Trump are always wrong about Trump having any connections with Russia.
If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck….
dienne77 says: “The Trump years broke y’all’s brains.”
You might recall I promised to be as thoughtful and kind as you are when you post.
“The Trump years broke y’all’s brains.”
So that’s your idea of acceptable discourse? But I “put words in your mouth” because you linked to professional Trump defender Caitlin Johnstone and I called it out?
Still waiting for actual evidence. Insult me all you want, but until I see evidence, you’re the ones who are believing propaganda.
Incidentally, WaPo is owned by the world’s richest man who also happens to be a CIA contractor. Hmmmm…….
You might be more successful in arguing if you didn’t keep linking to Caitlin Johnstone, the person who dismisses sworn testimony and evidence gathered, in favor of (just coincidentally, I’m sure) what Trump said when he refused to allow his family or staff to testify under oath.
Still waiting for actual evidence that the Washington Post prints CIA propaganda. But lol at your innuendo that one of the richest men in the world is a CIA contractor so that makes him guilty by association, but Trump being in debt to Russian oligarchs and taking actions that favor Putin over US interests is perfectly innocent.
The New York Times and every media outlet reported the same story.
This is a silly challenge since no reader here is a CIA agent, to my knowledge. I’m not.
Since I can’t give you “evidence” that Russian agents hacked into our government networks, why don’t you provide evidence that Mike Pompeo is lying.
Dienne77….Do you think it’s just a coincidence that Edward Snowden has found asylum in Russia? Yeah, poor baby wants to come home because he misses his family and freedom. Can’t be proven, but I bet there was a little “tit for tat” when he made that deal to stay in Russia away from prosecution in the US? I hear rumors that he wants a pardon from Trump?
Anyone waiting for an apology for the nasty remark directed to Diane Ravitch and some of the rest of us:
“The Trump years broke y’all’s brains.”
I didn’t put those words in her mouth. She came up with them all by herself.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for an apology. But it would be a good thing if this kind of attack was not condoned. I make a point of not calling those whom I vehemently disagree with “idiots” or people with “broken brains” or some other slur or insult and I notice that the majority of people who post on here don’t insult other people’s brains even if they disagree.
My brains not broken, but it’s definitely sick of Trump and everyone around him.
Drain that swamp!
You take things way too personally. And don’t get into one of your 35,000 paragraph hissy fits. Forget the Dienne thing. Dienne is a valuable intellect like many of us here, and she has a different take on things, which is more than fine. You do also. Style? That’s a different story, but let’s put that aside.
I am going to rely on your intellect, which you clearly have, to focus to what I have to say in the following: More importantly, I want to know why we are SO dependent on technology to run our country’s government and businesses . . . . Have we overused and underdeveloped it? . . . “Underdeveloped” meaning not having created robust systems that protect it and not creating ethics, effective laws, and digital citizenship that moderate its use?
NPR is one big paid advertisement for the glories of technology, and it’s no wonder because this “liberal” station is, in a part, funded by Bill and Melinda. But I really don’t care about labels like “liberal” or “conservative”. I don’t believe in labels as much as I do substance and orientation in politics.
And what kinds of manual backups do we have that are at least not cloud based that can be relied on if such hacking were to take place?
What do you think, and keep it condensed, please?
Robert Rendo,
I want to know why you consistently have a knee jerk need to defend dienne77 (no matter how insulting she is) and attack me.
Is that concise enough?
Re: “valuable intellect.” Provide a couple of examples. Evidence, please.
I wanted to have a discussion abbot technology, not play games about personality differences. Nice Jeopardy theme, but not relevant. Can anyone stick to a topic centering around technology?
Robert Rendo,
Did something break your brain? You take things way too personally. And don’t get into one of your hissy fits replying to me. I’m using those phrases so you know that I’m not trying to play games, just like you.
(Actually, I apologize in advance for writing such nasty things, but you don’t seem to think those statements are nasty at all since you defend them and use them yourself. And then profess to be confused as to why anyone notices the hypocrisy when you chide others for not responding in a way that you approve of.)
NYCPSP,
That was dramatic, but not very theatrical. So much for answering my question. But the “concise” requirement was knocked out of the ballpark.
A+ . . .
Robert Rendo,
When someone calls me out for “putting words in their mouth”, and I realize I was in error, I apologize. I don’t use the kind of insulting slurs that you and your pal do when I write replies, but if I did what you did and someone called me out, I’d apologize. I have no interest in being dramatic, theatrical or playing games. I’m just tired of your insults. I’m not your enemy. I don’t like it when people post things that are misleading and insulting and sometimes my replies are too long. Your outrage about that no longer interests me.
NYCPSP:
“When someone calls me out for “putting words in their mouth”, and I realize I was in error, I apologize. I don’t use the kind of insulting slurs that you and your pal do when I write replies, but if I did what you did and someone called me out, I’d apologize.”
Okay. I absolutely apologize for words like “dramatic” and “theatrical”.
“I have no interest in being dramatic, theatrical or playing games. I’m just tired of your insults.”
Have I insulted you that many times where you’ve grown tired? I generally have something completely objective to say to you or I don’t reply to you or about you. I don’t think you and I have an ongoing record of me insulting you (or vice versa) to the point where you’d be rendered “tired of being insulted”.
“I’m not your enemy.”
I never said or implied you were. And I don’t perceive myself at all to be yours. I have no idea why you would choose that word or even think it, no less. Because I don’t mirror image your sensibility about the Democrats or another (maybe unpopular) commenter on this blog, all of a sudden I’m an enemy? Really? Okay. Once again, I will refrain from the word ‘dramatic’.
“I don’t like it when people post things that are misleading and insulting and sometimes my replies are too long. Your outrage about that no longer interests me.”
I’m not at all outraged abut the length of your replies. I’m vexed sometimes, I’m amused, and I’m even interested; but I am not outraged. I’m outraged about the GOP and the Democrats, but that does not mean I don’t remain a robust civic participant. This week, I have put in numerous voluntary hours on causes I believe in. Many of us do.
NYCPSP, please consider in your writing a toning down of your adjectives. You might want to go from scotch bonnet peppers to moderate chili peppers in the amount of picante you put into your words and reactions when you don’t agree. Its not as if you’ve never shown that ability. It’s just a consideration or a gentle suggestion, and not an attack against you.
As far as Dienne and the Democrats, I will objectively agree to disagree with you. And it’s okay. The sky won’t fall. The earth will not descend into a nuclear holocaust. And it’s healthy that we challenge each other, we who are in the same tent, Dienne included. I don’t defend her and I don’t not defend her, but I do defend some diversity of intellectualism on this blog. If the host tells me that refraining from doing so becomes another bullet on her living room list of etiquette rules, then I will have the option of following that rule or simply not entering the living room, out of respect. I would still support NPE, but I might not participate as a commenter on the blog.
Which is why, in a not-so-condensed way this time, I tried to not become fixated on the Dienne thing and focus on technology issues. I see no one so far is so interested, but that’s fine. That’s life. That’s why I posed those questions.
Issues first . . . personality difference last or never . . . That’s how we get things done.
Greg-
Thanks for the Jeopardy laugh.
Off topic, Loeffler’s photo with a former Ku Klux Klan “Grand Khaliff” was posted on a Russian social media site over the weekend. (Intercept)
Dienne 77 provides a window or a glance into the perceptions of Trump voters.
Will she weigh in on Rendo’s question about technology?
Linda, Dienne may give – intentionally or not – a glimpse into the POV of Trump supporters, but Dienne is not at all a Trump supporter. She loathes Trump, as virtually all of us do on this blog. Maybe she stands to state her position about candidates and why if she chooses.
Again, people are making this a Dienne thing. Is there an assumption that I am a Trump supporter because I don’t oppose most of Dienne’s
non-symmetrical thinking? For the record, I am not. I supported Bernie. I support Porter and AOC, people like that. I support The Squad, for better or for worse. I am not happy with the DNC, but there are things I am actively engaged in in addressing that. I’m no spectator.
I recently strongly disagreed with Dienne on a politician who I really value and believe in and support. And yet, isn’t it funny that I remain friends with her and recognize her critical thinking and questioning lens.
There is once again a re-channeling of the flow back to Dienne, when I posed what I think are critical questions about technology (does not the hacking involve technology or am I mistaken?”)
I didn’t think this was the “Dienne Blog” . . . . More like the “Diane Blog” . . . A site to discuss . . . .
Dienne is entitled to her views. And to state them here.
Robert Rendo so get off of that subject and move on. CBK
Robert Rendo says “Have I insulted you that many times where you’ve grown tired? ”
I quote you: “You take things way too personally. And don’t get into one of your 35,000 paragraph hissy fits.”
Robert, you wrote another 12 long paragraphs without apologizing for those nasty words. No matter to me, I just find it incomprehensible that you have annointed yourself the “reply police” and gratuitously insult me whenever I reply to comments like where dienne77 insults us as having broken brains. You seem to condone nasty words from people you like, but when you take a personally dislike to someone, as you have to me, you will use any occasion to insult and criticize and bully.
I have a thick skin so I don’t care. But I am posting to call out your hypocrisy.
This has informed me in more ways than was intended.
“non-symmetrical thinking” Now that’s a good one! Orwell would be impressed. As limber as being able to stick one’s right big toe into one’s left ear.
As for technology, that cat’s out of the bag. It seems to me that regulation might be the only reasonable answer. The more reasonable answer is civic education to create discerning citizens who understand the concept of civic virtue without having to resort to the absurdity of “non-symmetrical thinking” sophistry. Is that the correct answer on the standardized test?
That’s very interesting. I had no idea . . .
Trump says there was a hack, but he blames it on China.
Why are you asking the readers of this blog to give you evidence that US government agencies were hacked?
I don’t have evidence. Do you have evidence that Mike Pompeo, Trump loyalist, is lying?
Not possible that anything so nefarious could be done by Saint Vlad the Munificent!
Oh, sure, Dienne. The most obvious explanation is that all these officials from all these agencies and departments are simply colluding in a vast conspiracy to make this up because they are bored or something.
Aie yie yie
And what does this mean for the banks? Be wary of where you type those passwords, folks. Also time to change them. I think if chase gave me the option to switch to two factor i would take it
I’ve wondered when the day would come when all Americans would go to their ATM machines to see their accounts register zero balances.
What is the hold that Putin has on Trump?
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Trump, contradicting Pompeo, downplays gravity of massive cyberattack against U.S. government, as well as Russia’s role
Dec. 19, 2020 at 11:05 a.m. CST
Russia is behind the massive, ongoing cyber spy campaign against the federal government and private sector, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Friday — the first Trump administration official to publicly blame Moscow for the computer hacks.
“This was a very significant effort, and I think it’s the case that now we can say pretty clearly that it was the Russians that engaged in this activity,” said Pompeo in an interview with “The Mark Levin Show.”
President Trump on Saturday morning appeared to contradict his top diplomat, tweeting that he has been “fully briefed” and suggesting that “it may be China” that’s responsible for the breaches.
“The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality,” Trump tweeted, tagging Pompeo. “I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control.”…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-is-behind-the-broad-ongoing-cyber-spy-campaign-against-the-us-government-and-private-sector-pompeo-says/2020/12/19/8c850cf0-41b3-11eb-8bc0-ae155bee4aff_story.html
Trump hasn’t worked as President since he was sworn in almost four years ago.
On a typical day, he had nothing planned but lunch with Pence.
He spent four years watching FOX, tweeting, and golfing.
& spent these last 5 days hiding, after states’ vaccine supply #s had been reduced, & guvs asking “Why?” have gotten no answers.
Again w/the politicizing of the coronavirus while more people needlessly get sick & more die.
& while Dense gets his shot & the, reportedly, is leaving the country for a little vacay (why? & are we taxpayers paying for Dense & Mother’s trip–timed just in time to make it an “official” visit, so that WE are stuck w/the tab?).
Plus: I read in the news today that the U.K. is going into lockdown & closing its borders because, reportedly, there has been a new strain of the virus spreading there.
“Meanwhile, back in the real world…”
That’s a good one.
I am waiting not-so-patiently for the days to pass quickly and reach January 20, 2021. Until Biden is President Biden and in the White House we have no idea what Trump will say, tweet, or do next or what his deplorable, racist, often violent base will do.
It seems that Trump is now doing everything possible to set up the United States for total failure and collapse as a nation-state if he doesn’t get what he wants, and what he wants is to OWN the United States and control all of our lives with him being the law maker in Chief instead of the U.S. Constitution.
Trump will not stop even after January 20th, but that date will take the wind out of his sails and he will have to row hard against the current to keep moving toward his goal stated in the previous paragraph.
Lloyd This is what we get . . . from when the Senate didn’t follow through with the impeachment. CBK
Exactly, CBK!
Axios this afternoon, “Officials Increasingly Alarmed about Trump’s Power Grab”.
Why don’t GOP voters care about American sovereignty and principles?
An hour ago, I responded to a prediction on Twitter that Trump would be sworn in again on Inauguration Day. These People are delusional.
Who will do the swearing in?
The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court swears in the president. The outgoing president is always on the platform as a sign of respect and a symbol of the peaceful transition of power, which has been a hallmark of our democracy since George Washington.
Most people expect that Trump will not show up for Biden’s Inauguration. He will probably fly to Mar-a-Lago, then stage a MAGA rally in Florida coinciding with Biden’s swearing in, as a sign of his disrespect for Biden, for the election, and for the Constitution.
Trump’s foreseeable antics at the Biden inauguration might prove to be worse for the country than his avoidance of the event.
Trump might use the opportunity for theatrics related to a new Apprentice show starring the Donald or, use the platform to extoll the virtues of Putin and the Proud Boys.
I think these people will just be swearing!!!
Time for a Christmas break. How great this country would be if Trump had never been president. Oh well, that’s a Christmas wish that won’t be fulfilled.
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It’s a Wonderful Trump Cold Open – SNL
Saturday Night Live
Dec 15, 2018
Donald Trump (Alec Baldwin) gets his wish to have never been president granted and sees how the lives of Michael Cohen (Ben Stiller), Brett Kavanaugh (Matt Damon), Robert Mueller (Robert De Niro) and more have changed in an alternate reality.
Thank you, carol–I do like this one! The writing on SNL has been pretty disappointing this season.
When they return in January, Jim Carrey will no longer be portraying Joe Biden. I’m betting Kate McKinnon will be Jill.
I usually like Jim Carrey but his portrayal of Biden was terrible.
This is off topic, but one that really bothers me. We have billions for the military and snuck through in the wee hours of the morning a huge for tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy but now there is next to nothing to help ordinary people.
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The Republican’s Pathetic Stimulus Bill Is a Moral Outrage
By Robert Reich,
Robert Reich’s Facebook Page
19 December 20
Congress is getting close to passing a woefully insufficient Covid disaster relief bill. Here’s a brief breakdown of its highlights (or lowlights):—The bill will only be $900 billion, a far cry from the $2.2 trillion CARES Act passed at the start of the crisis — even though the pandemic is far worse now
—People below a certain income threshold will likely receive a one-time $600 or $700 check
—Unemployed Americans will receive an extra $300 a week in federal unemployment benefits, which will expire at the end of March 2021
—Republicans are seeking to prevent people receiving the expanded unemployment benefits from also receiving the paltry stimulus check, decrying it as a “double benefit”
—The bill will not include desperately needed aid to state and local governments, which Mitch McConnell has previously dismissed as a “blue state bailout”
There aren’t words to encapsulate what a disgrace the Republican Party is. A $600 check or $300 a week in unemployment benefits? Really? No money to keep nurses, firefighters, teachers, and state government employees employed during a national crisis?
Republicans didn’t blink when they gave corporations a $500 billion blank check in March — but now that it’s time to help struggling Americans, suddenly it’s time to tighten the belt. Republicans have outright abandoned their constituents. This pathetic stimulus bill is a moral outrage, and it should be treated as such.
carolmalaysia . . . but the Republicans support the fear, of those who have little, of those who have less or are of a different color. CBK.
I really wonder when the American general public will ever snap out of Russian obsession since 2016 election. I wouldn’t say “they don’t do it, they didn’t do it, they will never do it.” But we need evidence–so solid that anyone who doesn’t know much about cybersecurity can get it. We have encountered the word “Russia” thousands of time in both TV and media, from Democrats and Republicans, and national intelligence. It’s getting tedious because CIA/FBI/NSA and left media like CNN/ABC/MSNBC kept spinning it for almost 3 years until they got busted by Robert Mueller’s report that suggested no clear evidence for their conspiracy with Trump. Mueller’s report couldn’t even find the evidence that Russian hackers GRU did hack into both Podesta’s and DNC’s email accounts and dumped them into the WikiLeaks. Adding Edward Snowden and Julian Assange just makes it worse, as it makes the whole story into a low-brow conspiracy theory.
Another flashpoint is this late October when NY Post published the article about Hunter Biden(the oldest son of President-elect Joe Biden)’s email from Ukraine energy company Burisma. Instead of engaging in full investigation, most media chose Japanese-style self restraint. But what’s worse is that former national intelligence leaders and many Democrats called it “Russian Conspiracy”–which is plain ridiculous. It has absolutely nothing to do with Russia–no evidence of hacking, no intervention of GRU in the story, even Trump weasel (Rudy Giuliani) couldn’t declare it Russian asset.
The point is that the national intelligence cannot get this issue right. They screw it when the attacks are real but do nothing but let hackers steal numerous information and data from both government and private corporations. NSA & CIA are generally responsible for allowing hackers to steal the stockpiles of their hacking tools for years. They cannot even identify ‘Shadow Broker’– anonymous hackers responsible for disrupting network systems in Atlanta and Baltimore with Ransonware(occurred twice)– yet. And they screw it so bad when they reach out to the mainstream media and spin their own propaganda to make it look like a real story, knowing that there is no evidence of cyberattacks.
I really don’t care what Trump/Giuliani/Pompeo says or what Democrats or their allies say.
It’s just appalling to see top leaders of national security appearing in the mainstream media to control national narrative for the their best interests.
Ken,
I fail to understand why Trump and Biden would conspire to invent this story. I also don’t recall the Mueller Teport clearing Trump of Russian connections, and I do recall the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee confirming Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Dr. Ravitch,
I don’t deny Russian interference in 2016 election, since there is concerted effort by their national TV(RT) and operatives to disrupt the voters by spreading misinformation on the social media. There’s no doubt about that. But what I saw is that US media tried to seek something more than what Russian hackers and operatives actually did–by bringing top national security advisors or some key politicians and pundits in the evening news. It was escalated into exaggeration of foreign intervention–or re-emergence of Cold War/Red Scare moment, and they just spent time after time spinning the Trump/Russia story in connection to election intervention.
What Mueller denies is the Trump/Russia connection in very limited scope–election conspiracy. So there’s still room left for other aspects of Trump/Russia ties–i.e., connection to Russian oligarchs regarding his business. I can’t find anything new beyond Miss America Universe (cohosted by Trump and NBC in 2005) at this point. though.
But it’s really an eye-opening moment for us, since the mainstream news media were apparently seeking something much bigger than outside interference that would account for the legitimacy of Trump’s winning the election.
What I disagree is the argument that Russian interference is one of the key reasons Hillary Clinton lost in the election. There are several important factors that accounted for her loss, and the onus was on Democrats. I have to say they should have made a complete self-reflection on why they had lost in previous election–rather than huddling together with national intelligence leaders and pundits for smearing anyone critical of them as a “Russian asset/secret Trump fan.” It was like re-watching US Iraq war propaganda created by national intelligence and Republican leaders.
Part of the Mueller report was that Russian agents hacked the DNC and JOhn Podesta’s emails, turned them over to Julian Assange, who then released them drip-by-drip to hurt Hillary and help Trump.
From the BBC summary of the Mueller Report:
“Ex-adviser Roger Stone has been charged with lying to Congress about his contacts with Wikileaks, which released emails belonging to Democratic officials that had allegedly been hacked by Russians.”
Trump pardoned Flynn and Stone, both of whom were jailed because of the Mueller investigation.
I’m not sure what your point is.
Ken Watanabe,
Your reply cherry picks so much and ignores copious evidence that contradicts your exaggerated perception of reality.
The Mueller Report alone didn’t “prove” (i.e. there was no full confession by Trump or his campaign associates) that the Trump campaign directly conspired with Russia to get their help, but it clearly presented copious evidence of contacts and unusual favors being done by both sides. Furthermore, the Mueller Report did “prove” the cover-up. It happened in plain sight.
So a right wing Nixon supporter in 1973 could complain that no one “proved” that Nixon broke into the Dem’s Watergate office himself or that Nixon directly ordered burglars to break into the Dem’s Watergate office, but when Nixon supporters used that fact to pretend that all the rest of the evidence of a criminal conspiracy did not exist, they are being intentionally misleading in order to distort and hide the truth.
Mueller indicted 13 Russian intelligence officers in absenting for their involvement in the 2016 election.
What Ken is referring to is not the mueller Report but Bill Barr’s spinning of the Report a month before it was released.
Diane,
Thank you, that makes sense, since Bill Barr definitely spun the report. But why does Ken believe that Bill Barr’s spinning of the report is the entirety of the report and why does he ignore the rest?
Ken also presents a false picture in which all the hand wringing by democrats about how to reach Trump voters never happened and Ken also presents a false reality in which Stacey Abrams and her movement to re-enfranchise all the voters who were disenfranchised did not exist and got no support from anyone because – in Ken’s false reality – the democrats did nothing but sit around talking about Russia!
It’s as if people believe it is impossible to look at more than one issue at a time, and the Democrats should have ignored the Russian corruption to allow it to happen again, because people like Ken wanted them to spend even more time than they did flagellating and debasing themselves for failing to win in 2016.
I wish Bernie Sanders had won the primary – I’d be happy to see him as president-elect. But for the record, I do NOT think the progressive movement needs to spend all of its time now flagellating and asking themselves what they did wrong and why they failed to get Bernie elected. It’s just nonsense.
I love Bernie bit looking back, I think Trump was fully prepared to red-bait him daily and would have won re-election.
It’s easy for anyone to identify contacts and links as trace of evidence for the intervention, but does it necessarily mean that Trump and/or his staff had actually communicated with these sources secretly, whether in the White House or Trump Tower, to discuss how to sabotage his opponent? I don’t think Mueller’s full report suggests so, as far as I know. His report is straight forward, so it could catch anyone’s eyes easily if that’s what the team Trump actually did in their ‘alleged’ meetings. How can one get that? Maybe, something like video-camera or recorded conversation that actually played out in nailing the Watergate scandal. Or someone who just happened to be there came out and spoke on condition of anonymity?(not sure if it’s effective, though)
Unless we have any further updates, there’s no way I can find the truth behind it.
All I know so far is that the soon-to-be-gone clown has numerous ties that could personally and politically benefit himself and/or his administration. So far, I think Trump has more chance to be indicted as a private citizen in his state than as a public official by the federal government.
Mueller had 13 Russians and three Russian entities indicted in 2018 for interfering in the election to help Trump.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html
“A federal grand jury has indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for alleged illegal interference in the 2016 presidential elections, during which they strongly supported the candidacy of Donald Trump, special counsel Robert Mueller’s office said Friday.”
Bill Barr spun Mueller’s findings and withheld the report, also redacting it.
Mueller later said that the report did not exonerate Trump.
This is the BBC summary:
In summary
US intelligence agencies believe Russia tried to sway the election in favour of Mr Trump. A special counsel looked into whether anyone from his campaign colluded in the effort.
What did he find?
After two years, we have a 448-page report in which the special counsel finds no evidence the campaign conspired with Russia.
Is that all?
No, Robert Mueller also looked at 10 instances where the president obstructed justice. But he was unable to decide whether they amounted to a crime. His report also found that the Russian government did interfere in the election.
So a good day for the president?
Not really. We found out he tried to fire Mr Mueller. He had called it a witch hunt from the start.
Was it?
No. It was conducted by the hugely respected Mr Mueller, a Republican who used to run the FBI.
There were several meetings between senior members of Mr Trump’s team with Russian officials. Several meetings were not initially disclosed.
What meetings?
Ex-National Security Adviser Michael Flynn lied to the FBI about meeting the Russian ambassador to the US before Mr Trump took office.
The president’s son, Donald Jr, met a Russian lawyer who said she had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton during the campaign.
What else did Mr Mueller look at?
He brought charges against several of Mr Trump’s inner circle.
Ex-adviser Roger Stone has been charged with lying to Congress about his contacts with Wikileaks, which released emails belonging to Democratic officials that had allegedly been hacked by Russians.
Mr Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen admitted lying to Congress, campaign finance violations and tax evasion and received a 36-month prison sentence.
And former campaign chairman Paul Manafort lied to the FBI about his work in Ukraine, according to special counsel Robert Mueller, with whom he had been co-operating. Manafort has been jailed for bank fraud.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Trump has spent four years trying to destroy the federal government, deregulating environmental protections, trashing civil rights enforcement, politicizing the CDC, resigning from the Paris Climate Accord, withdrawing from the World Health Organization, withdrawing from the Iran nuclear agreement, threatening our allies, destabilizing NATO, cozying up to dictators, ignoring the pandemic.
What’s your point?
I’m counting the minutes until this Idiot is gone and under investigation by legal authorities in New York.
NYC Public School Parent
You are assuming that no conspiracy equals no evidence of any contact. Where did I ever say that?
Having your friend’s email address or phone number is one indicator of creating a connection, but it doesn’t necessarily constitute communication until you actually attempt to contact him/her.
I agree that Trump and his aides likely had secret meetings with some (or most) of those alleged contacts during the campaign. But we just don’t know what kind of talks they had behind the closed door unless someone put a bug under the table. Now at the end of 2020, I’m not even sure how/if this concerns many people since the clown will be out of office next month.
Also, I don’t understand why you brought up Bill Barr. He did a lot of disservice to American people except for the very small thing he did right in the last minute before his departure — denying Trump’s continuous allegation of election fraud.
Dr. Ravitch,
Yes, Mueller indicted 13 Russians for deliberate disinformation. I still don’t know why there weren’t any Americans(except for Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos) indicted on the same ground.
Anyway, my point is just plain simple: “watch out for exaggeration.”
National intelligence is of a kind. I don’t have an issue with their position on Trump. I distaste the clown myself. But they sometimes make a bombastic statement that seems a bit/way too far that turns me off. That’s what I felt really scary and something that needs to be cautious about.
That’s pretty much it. Thank you.
Speaking of how one’s assumption unfolds. Critiquing Democrats means denial of everything they do–including reality people are seeing something good happening in Georgia or Arizona?
I prefer Stacy Abrams, AOC, and Bernie Sanders to Nanci Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. What they are doing make much more sense to me than lame ducks.
Christopher Ruddy, Trump’s friend, is making money while distorting the facts. It is rubbish like this and OAN that is destroying our democracy. Where is Trump now getting his “intelligence briefings”?
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GOP lawmakers are showing up more frequently on Newsmax
BY SCOTT WONG AND JONATHAN EASLEY – 12/20/20 06:00 AM EST
Watch the conservative cable television outlet Newsmax on a given night and you’ll see a parade of GOP lawmakers and other influential conservatives.
As President Trump openly feuds with Fox News, conservative lawmakers and loyal Trump officials have increasingly added Newsmax to their rotation of media stops, giving a sheen of credibility to the fledgling network as it seeks to compete for conservative viewers…
But GOP lawmakers say Trump’s criticism of Fox, coupled with reports from their home districts about how some conservatives are adding Newsmax to their media diet, has them eager to appear on the network.
Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) said he’s been doing more appearances on Newsmax and its smaller rival, One America News (OAN), in recent weeks.
Asked whether Trump’s criticism of Fox News is a factor for the small segment of Republicans considering the alternative networks, Harris replied: “It is for me.”
Newsmax, which was founded by Trump friend Christopher Ruddy, has been unapologetic about its pro-Trump content, although it began referring to Joe Biden as the “president-elect” following the Electoral College vote.
Fox News has been using that term since election night, while OAN has still refused to recognize Biden’s victory.
Still, Republican strategists say that when they’re trying to get their clients’ message out, there is no better network to place a lawmaker or official than Fox News…
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/530894-gop-lawmakers-are-showing-up-more-frequently-on-newsmax
Too bad for FOX!
I’ve started to read Fox online and it seems they’re trying to wean the base off the crazy. I’m rooting for them!
I listened to his interview in BBC hard talk radio last week. The guy’s pretty much defensive in all respects, and behaving like a typical right-wing media mogul. Although he reluctantly recognized Joe Biden as the next president in the interview, the man showed his pretense as a neutral, impartial umpire.
I hope Trump’s future is prison. The SDNY is investigating and they won’t stop. I thought money from Trump’s name on buildings was drying up because now the world knows that he is not someone to be respected.
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The Memo: Trump’s future includes several paths
…“The president understands that he needs to still engage his base, and the best way to do that is with a media platform,” said Brad Blakeman, a former member of President George W. Bush’s White House and a strong Trump supporter. “So I suspect the short-term plan is to get a home, a platform for him to have regular contact with his base.”…
The right kind of media platform would also be lucrative — always a consideration of Trump’s, and likely to remain so given that he faces potentially worrisome debts. The New York Times revealed in October that Trump had personally guaranteed more than $400 million of his companies’ debts, and that about three-quarters of those debts come due within the next four years.
Trump referred to his debts as “a peanut” during a televised town hall shortly before the election.
One of the key questions — unanswerable for now — is the extent to which Trump’s presidential controversies have harmed his business brand…
In the political arena, no one doubts that Trump’s influence over the GOP will remain profound.
Despite his defeat — and his divisiveness in the nation at large — he is the most popular Republican in the country. Even if he does not run again, any 2024 contender will not want to wind up in his cross-hairs.
If he runs again, said GOP strategist Ford O’Connell “he is without question the favorite” to become the nominee.
For now, O’Connell added, “he is essentially freezing the 2024 field because they are all wondering what he is doing,..
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/530533-the-memo-trumps-future-includes-several-paths
The 2024 contenders are hoping he drops dead.
As many of us do. But I, for one, hope it is long, drawn out, excruciatingly painful…I want him to feel the pain, misery, and tragedy his selfish actions have imposed on billions of people.
This doozie comes from Mad Patriot News. [Yes, they are all crazy. Mad ‘out of their minds’ crazy.]
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China had a motive and the influence to steal the 2020 U.S. presidential elections, a pro-democracy Chinese-American media group asserts.
(Article by Dorothy Cummings McLean republished from LifeSiteNews.com)
The Epoch Times has released a six-part, 1.5-hour-long investigative documentary called Who’s Stealing America? In the fast-paced, jaw-dropping report, journalist Joshua Philipp investigates allegations of election fraud, media bias, election machine hacking, and the relationship of Dominion Voting Systems to a China-controlled securities firm. He then looks into claims made by leading Chinese professor that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has been infiltrating the American elite for almost thirty years, delves into the Biden family’s business affairs in China, and highlights the role of pro-CCP operators in November’s elections.
The Epoch Times is one of China’s few and fiercest critics among the American media. It makes no secret of its mistrust of the country’s communist regime; in the first few minutes of the documentary, reporter Philipp refers to COVID-19 as “the CCP virus.” However, he (and scriptwriters Katherine Hu and Jingyang Tang) put aside China for the first half of the report to concentrate on what happened late in the night of November 3 and early in the morning of November 4.
Part 1, “Who’s Stealing America?,” carefully lays out the strange events of Election Night. By midnight, Trump and Biden had won their “expected strongholds,” Philipp narrates. But then Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia — all swing states with Trump leads — suspended their vote counts, “almost simultaneously,” the Epoch Times reported.
At 12:49, the president tweeted that “they are trying to steal the election.” Between 4 A.M. and 6 A.M., counting resumed in Wisconsin and Michigan, and there was a “spike in votes” for both states, numbering over 100 thousand, mostly for Biden. Philipp examines both these “abnormalities” in detail. He also highlights other election anomalies, including how Biden votes in swing states bizarrely outstripped the number of votes for their Democrat senatorial candidates. In Michigan, for example, Biden got 69,093 more votes than senatorial candidate Gary Peters.
In Part 2, Philipp interviews witnesses to Election Night ballot fraud, contrasting their testimony with false or biased reportage from the mainstream media. He also interviews data analyst Matt Braynard, who looked at electoral anomalies in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada. Braynard says he has discovered anomalies in at least 1.2 million votes. Some “voters” had listed a postage facility as their address, disguising a P.O. box as an apartment number. There were also false requests for absentee ballots. Philipp reported that 138,221 people had moved out of Georgia by Election Day but still voted (whether they knew it or not) as Georgia residents by mail-in ballots. This happened in a lesser scale in Wisconsin and Arizona, Philipp reported.
Based on the data, Braynard thinks the election could be flipped in Georgia, Wisconsin, and Arizona.
Part 3 investigates the role Dominion Voting Systems, used in 28 U.S. states and Puerto Rico, may have played in voter fraud. Here the Epoch Times underscores the MSM’s skepticism about the security of Dominion’s machines before the election. Philipp cites and interviews cyber-security experts who are confident that voting machines can be hacked. He then examines the strange half-minute on Election Night when a livestreamed vote-ticker suddenly took exactly 19,958 votes from Trump’s tally and gave them to Biden.
“Who had access to that [Dominion] equipment?” Philipp asks. “What changes could they have made right before the election?”
The story about Dominion Voting Systems gets even darker in Part 4, when the Epoch Times presents its investigation into the firm’s parent company, Stable Street Capital.
“A month before the 2020 election, the parent company of Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million in funding,” Philipp reports.
Stable Street Capital, which bought Dominion in July 2018, received the funding from UBS Securities, LLC, a company with strong links to China. UBS had already given Stable Street Capital $200 million in December 2014. And after the November 3 election, both Dominion and UBS Beijing made abrupt changes: Dominion deleted information about its board, its CEO canceled his appearance before a PA House of Representatives hearing, its security director went missing, and its Toronto HQ closed down. On November 30, UBS Beijing’s board of directors replaced 11 of its 14 members.
The Epoch Times does not believe this was a coincidence.
The report digs deep into the relationship between the securities firms UBS New York and UBS Beijing, stating that three of the former’s four board members are Chinese nationals who have had leadership roles at the latter. UBS Beijing was founded under the “personal supervision” of Wang Qishan, now the vice president of the People’s Republic of China. UBS is still controlled by the CCP and Chinese nationals today, Philipp reports.
Part 5, entitled “The Subversion of America”, begins with Tucker Carlson’s December 7, 2020 story exposing a Chinese professor’s smug lecture about the CCP’s infiltration of the American elite. In the video, Di Dongsheng brags that China has “people high above” in the USA, and that between 1992 and 2016, China “manipulated the core power circle in the U.S.” Trump’s election made things difficult for China, but “now we see Biden come to power,” the lecturer enthused.
The video footage serves as a springboard for the Epoch Times to make its central argument that China is engaging in “unrestricted warfare against the USA”: biological (“the CPP virus”), drug (the fentanyl crisis), public opinion, digital, and political. The media group describes Joe Biden as a “CCP proxy.” Interviewee Rick Fisher, senior fellow of the International Assessment and Strategy Center, tells Philipp that China “ultimately wants to become the global hegemon” and the globe’s “center of political, strategic and economic decision-making.” Ultimately, the CCP wants a world in which it can never be challenged in China, Fisher said.
“Cyber warfare assists all of these goals,” he added, “and the manipulation of elections, if possible, is certainly an option that the Chinese Communist Party would want to exercise … to make the world safe for its dictatorship.”
The Epoch Times also suggests that China is behind BLM and Antifa violence, as well as social media bias and censoring of election fraud allegations. It alleges that the anti-Trump “Seed the Vote” organization is a front for the pro-CPP Chinese Progressive Association before examining the Biden family’s business dealings in China during and after the Obama administration.
Part 6 serves as the Epoch Times’ trumpet call to the American voters to take a stand against the election fraud they allege Biden and the CCP have perpetrated against America.** The Epoch Times’ Trevor Loudon says on camera that the USA is living through a communist revolution and warns that the goal of socialists in the USA is “complete tyranny.” The report concludes that the USA is now in a “battle between traditional values and communism” and “between good and evil.”**
“We are not fighting for Trump,” Philipp says. “We are fighting for our future and the future of America’s freedom.”
China expert Steven Mosher told LifeSiteNews that Dominion Voting Systems did indeed switch votes and that the Epoch Times is “one of the few news agencies” reporting fairly on the election.
“On the night of November 3rd, Donald Trump was watching in real time as the Dominion Voting Systems were switching votes. That’s why he came out at 2 a.m. that night and denounced voter fraud, and announced that he would be taking his case to the Supreme Court,” Mosher said by email today.
“The Epoch Times is one of the few news agencies, aside from LifeSite News, that has been honestly covering the 2020 presidential election, which marks a watershed in American history. If we do not reverse the cheating, and put in place measures to prevent it from ever happening again, our republic may well be lost,” he continued.
“As their new documentary shows, Dominion Voting Systems played a key role in manipulating the vote. A forensic audit of Dominions machines and software in Michigan showed that ‘the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.’”
Mosher also stated that “foreign actors, chiefly China” helped to undermine the election.
“More will come out about this in the coming days,” he promised.
Read more at: LifeSiteNews.com
**I think it’s amazing what political funding will buy. CBK
I’m glad you read this crazy stuff so I don’t have to.
Up to your Jim Carrey/Biden comment, Diane. Yes, I love Carrey, but he was playing Carrey, not Biden. (I would have LOVED to have seen Sacha Baron Cohen play Freddy Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody, because he CAN play outside himself–he’s such a good actor & does so many characters–please watch his “This is America” S1e1 w/Bernie–it’s on YouTube,& it is HILARIOUS!!) &, IMO, he most resembles Freddy.* )
They already had Alex Moffat, from the current cast, play him yesterday. Good for him, as he’s going to be out of his role as Eric Trump!
A good joke was made about Biden looking “different,” & then talking about well, so many people were Col. Sanders (even Reba McIntyre!).
Rami Malek–who did play Freddy in *B.H.–was outstanding, deserving every single award (& I think he did receive every Best Actor Award that year) he won. He may be playing one of the Bee Gees in the upcoming biopic–yeah, I could see him as Robin Gibb.
I highly recommend the HBO Bee Gees doc that just came out. It was so well done & had all the great songs in it.
I highly recommend Henry Louis Gates “Reconstruction” on PBS. Fascinating.
My grandfather came from Sweden. Sweden has proven to be a disappointment concerning COVID-19 and the “herd immunity” thinking that obviously doesn’t work.
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In Sweden, there have been 66 new daily cases per 100,000 people over the past seven days, a rate nearly identical to that of the U.S., while Lithuania has the world’s highest current rate of spread, with a daily average of 98.6 new cases per 100,000 residents over the past week.
The lame-brained Orange one doesn’t get the message. HE LOST THE ELECTION. What is the purpose of doing this when the justices won’t even meet until after the electoral votes are counted AND it wouldn’t change the outcome? Giuliani should be disbarred for incompetence.
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Trump Campaign Files New Petition With Supreme Court To Overturn Pa. Election Results
The new case is at least the fourth involving Pennsylvania that Trump’s campaign or Republican allies have taken to the Supreme Court.
JILL COLVIN and MARC LEVY
WASHINGTON (AP) — Undeterred by dismissals and admonitions from judges, President Donald Trump’s campaign continued with its unprecedented efforts to overturn the results of the Nov 3. election Sunday, saying it had filed a new petition with the Supreme Court.
The petition seeks to reverse a trio of Pennsylvania Supreme Court cases having to do with mail-in ballots and asks the court to reject voters’ will and allow the Pennsylvania General Assembly to pick its own slate of electors.
While the prospect of the highest court in the land throwing out the results of a democratic election based on unfounded charges of voter fraud is extraordinary unlikely, it wouldn’t change the outcome. President-elect Joe Biden would still be the winner even without Pennsylvania because of his wide margin of victory in the Electoral College.
“The petition seeks all appropriate remedies, including vacating the appointment of electors committed to Joseph Biden and allowing the Pennsylvania General Assembly to select their replacements,” Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said in a statement.
He is asking the court to move swiftly so it can rule before Congress meets on Jan. 6 to tally the vote of the Electoral College, which decisively confirmed Biden’s win with 306 electoral votes to Trump’s 232. But the justices are not scheduled to meet again, even privately, until Jan 8, two days after Congress counts votes…
Article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-supreme-court-petition-to-overturn-pa-election-results_n_5fe06bc1c5b607e6348c1bd8?ncid=engmodushpmg00000006