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Emanuele Corso, PhD says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:05 pm

Can these people even fed themselves? They are dangerous!

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- Linda says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 1:44 pm
  
  Check out the religion shared by the big names on Fox.
  
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  - Rob S. says:
    
    July 9, 2020 at 4:04 pm
    
    Not sure when God abdicated to these folks to manage communications. (I never got the memo.)
  - Linda says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:50 am
    
    Rob- clever retort, thanks for the chuckle.
    
    “Memos” to support Trump are delivered from the pulpits as reported by Pew polling research. (Exceptions to the generalizations exist.)
    
    Jefferson- In all ages, in all countries, the priest is in alliance with the despot.
    
    Last month, Fr. Daly wrote at NCRon-line, “I’m done with the Knights of Columbus”. The article relates to a Catholic shrine’s welcome mat for a Trump photo op. Fr. Daly’s complaint about a K of C headed by a former legislative aide to Jesse Helms, while appreciated, is a bit of a glass house problem given his church’s discrimination against women.
GregB says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:07 pm

I saw this when it came out and it caused me to reconsider my views of internment camps somewhat. These people need to be isolated from the general public. They are hazardous in so many ways.

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- Joel Herman (@jwherman11) says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 5:05 pm
  
  Sadly you are right. And even more dangerous their oligarchical puppet masters.
  
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  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 9, 2020 at 8:11 pm
    
    This is the latest Lincoln Project ad.
    It is brilliant and guaranteed to get under Donnie’s skin:
    
    https://t.co/BcuBMCptUP
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 12:11 am
    
    I agree with the thesis of the article posted below. I think the so-called Lincoln Project’s (I believe Lincoln would have cringed of his name being imposed on this cynical folly) is effective in the sense that their messages are changing anyone’s minds, these are sugar highs intended for people why have long since decided what they think of the Idiot. These ads change no one’s minds. They are job security (translation: cushy, unaccountable chat show contracts) for their “leadership.” Nothing more, nothing less. If anyone thinks these ads will change the mind of just one member of his cult, let me sell you some Amway crap. I could use the easy money.
  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 8:04 am
    
    I disagree, Greg. The Lincoln Project ads target mainstream Republicans (the Rockefeller, Eisenhower, Prescott Bush types) who are not enthralled with Trump and independents. Why fight or belittle dissident Republicans opposed to Trump? Dems would not dare produce the bold ads produced by the Lincoln Project. I salute them. Show me one Dem ad that has gone viral on social media like LP ads. I can’t think of any.
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 12:12 am
    
    Whoops, here’s the article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-lincoln-project-trolling-trump-beating-him_n_5f06ac20c5b6480493cb4967
  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 7:58 am
    
    Sorry, but I don’t understand the criticism of the Lincoln Project by Democrats.
    
    Its ads are hard-hitting, more so than anodyne Dem ads.
    
    Why not be grateful that thoughtful Republicans are fighting to recover their party from Trump’s control, fighting to prevent Trump from making GOP synonymous with racism, anti-immigration, anti-free trade, xenophobia. Trump has successfully bullied every Republican Senator but Romney. I salute the Lincoln Project and the people who created it. We need a healthy two-party system, and a Trump has gained near-total control of a major political party.
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 10:55 am
    
    Diane Besides that, one of the points of the Lincoln ads is that they reach a demographic of TV watchers who pay little or no attention to politics, the way some of us do. This blog alone is a kind of “bubble” (not in the bad sense) that is peopled by politics-interested people.
    
    But we “sit” in a huge other-demographic field; and I know many people who have no clue about what’s going on in politics, local, state or national. Some vote anyway, but many don’t. I’m glad to see anything hard-hitting and anti-Trump hit that demographic.
    
    I think one of the reasons Rush Limbaugh built such a following is that he was consistently on the radio–where those who have VERY busy work/family lives listened to him on their daily commute to work and back. It was a one-horse audience of Americans who were exposed to little or NO other “news” sources that might introduce a different or more nuanced view.
    
    It’s messy, I am sure, but by being on TV, these ads find their way into that “lost in political space” demographic. CBK
  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:08 am
    
    Thanks, CBK. The reality is that a hard-hitting video can “say” more in 30-60 seconds than thousands of articles and essays. I admire the boldness of the Lincoln Project. It’s not true that everyone has already decided how to vote. That’s why we watch the polls. They are not static.
  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:48 am
    
    GregB, the Republicans behind The Lincoln Project are the enemies of our enemy and that enemy is Donald Trump. He is everyone’s enemy even the ignorant fools that voted for and still support him.
    
    “The Enemy of My Enemy. … The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as quoted by Sun Tzu, may very well be the most accurate summation of today’s terrorist philosophy. As many readers know, Sun Tzu was a Chinese general who according to various sources was a continual strategist.Feb 22, 2011”
    
    https://www.officer.com/tactical/article/10232157/the-enemy-of-my-enemy
    
    “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu (born 544 BC) is studied at West Point and is taught at colleges to business majors (maybe not all colleges but many).
    
    Until we vanquish Trump back to the swamp that pit viper came from, the Republicans funding THe Lincoln Project are our allies, our friends. Once Trump is gone, you can treat them like our enemies again if that is what you want to do.
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 12:15 am
    
    …who have long decided…
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 10:12 am
    
    We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I’ve previously outlined why I think the individuals associated with the Lincoln Project are not to be trusted or praised; they are all in some small or large measure responsible for poisoning American politics and governing, to which they will return very soon. As the article I posted made clear, it is debatable if these ads are changing any minds. They are largely being shared on social media by people already opposed to the Idiot. It’s a political sugar high for frustrated opponents of this regime, it’s trolling, not a political strategy. It is, however, a big money maker for the individuals involved, with 90% of contributions going straight into their pockets, not publicity. Are, for example, these ads having any effect on the people cited above? I would argue no. People’s minds are made up. The idea of undecided independents is a mirage. They are, in my view, much like the David Duke effect I witnessed in the early 90s in Louisiana, too embarrassed or intentionally lying about their support. If 12% of the electorate is “undecided,” I count them as voters for the status quo. What needs to be done is get people out to vote. Every one of the people who protested in the streets MUST vote. People need to be motivated and enabled to get out and vote. If the shills behind the Lincoln Project were serious about fundamental change, they would roll up their sleeves and help do the hard work of getting out the vote for Democrats, not nipping at the heels of the Idiot and other Republicans. What they want to see, in my view, is for Democrats to have narrow victories this fall so that they can get back to what they do best, blame Democrats for failures of Republican administrations.
  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:31 am
    
    Greg,
    
    I don’t often disagree with you, but I disagree about the Lincoln Project. It has run its ads in the DC area on Fox & Friends, and Trump sees them. So do other Republicans who watch Fox. I haven’t seen them on MSNBC or CNN. It has a small budget as an ad campaign goes, less than $3 million. Why criticize those who are on your side? If Biden wins, as I hope and pray he does, the folks in the Lincoln Project will have plenty work trying to cleanse their party of every trace of Trump’s malevolence. And we will have plenty work trying to overcome the Democratic neoliberals who are still promoting failed “third way” strategies.
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:33 am
    
    GregB Even if we can accept the premise that Lincoln Project people are “not to be trusted or praised” (and I don’t think that’s a given), the ads stand alone regardless, and can be judged by their quality and effectiveness alone, regardless of who puts them out or why. And ultimately, it’s their time, effort, and money.
    
    On a different level of communications, however, and as your note suggests, Trumpism is forcing us into taking political extremes in every event in our lives . . . and because Trump is President, we have to respond to those extremes from the other extreme corner we are forced into.
    
    The effect is pervasive (and it’s the way fascism works also). . . we are all being slowly wedged into tribal thinking where, for instance, I don’t want to give Trump or the R’s even one attaboy, regardless of what it is or does. If Trump does it or wants it, I hate it–precisely because (1) I just want him gone so we can pick up the pieces; and because (2) I KNOW that his motivations are poisonous to everyone concerned (by his history of corrupt patterns).
    
    The succinct point is that from the tribal view, the Lincoln people cannot do the intelligent and good on principle because of WHO they are. WHAT they do, beneficial or not, doesn’t matter. That’s what I see going on in your note. CBK
  - Linda says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 11:13 am
    
    Two-party system- party of Biden and party of OAC.
    Republicans chose re-election over country. Meghan McCain is the duplicitous face of the GOP, rich colonialists, some of whom talk a good game, while their party’s actions reflect moral bankruptcy.
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 1:48 pm
    
    Disagreement isn’t a bad thing. We should check back on this discussion in a year and see which comments do or don’t age well. I do think the Idiot and his cult have so poisoned public discourse–or what passes for it these days–that people jump onboard anything that makes them feel better. Andrew Ferguson incorporates many of the points I’ve made here and I obviously agree with most of what he writes: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/tactics-lincoln-project/613636/ It will be interesting to see if they influence any voters. If I had something to bet, I think the answer is no. Their advocacy is the equivalent of a matador’s cape.
    
    As for Romney, he has voted with the Idiot 81%. A few outliers and superficial acts shouldn’t obscure that. Like the Lincoln Project, his objections are largely about style, not the substance of policy. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/mitt-romney/ Those of us who oppose the Idiot’s regime are just a little too desperate to see silver linings in clouds of feces. We’ll see, let’s check back with each other next summer. I hope I will be proven very wrong, but should Biden win, I think I know who will be leading the charge to undermine every part of his presidency and congressional action.
  - dianeravitch says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 2:45 pm
    
    I don’t expect supporters of The Lincoln Project to become Democrats.
    
    I hope they will try to salvage the Republican party and rediscover its principles.
  - GregB says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 1:51 pm
    
    For my friend Linda, how about the revelation that the Catholic Church got at least $1.4 billion and possibly as much as $3.5 billion from PPP? https://thehill.com/policy/finance/506737-catholic-church-received-at-least-14-billion-covid-19-relief If we are outraged by the charter industry’s criminality with respect to PPP, shouldn’t we be consistent with outrage for this? How much of that money will help relieve the monetary costs incurred from sexual abuse settlements?
  - carolmalaysia says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 1:57 pm
    
    How about this goodie? I’m not a subscriber to the Chicago Tribune but the amount of information given contributes to the fact that there is something rotten happening. Should we be surprised?
    ……………………………………………
    Chicago Tribune
    JULY 10, 2020
    
    PPP loans were meant to help small businesses save jobs amid the pandemic. So why does official data show thousands of recipients retained zero jobs?
    
    More than 550,000 recipients of PPP loans, including more than 9,500 in Illinois, were listed in official government data as having zero jobs retained. But many of those recipients say that information is wrong, raising questions about the reliability of data showing how billions in taxpayer dollars are being used.
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 2:46 pm
    
    GregB Note that it’s a one-off related to the pandemic. Also here’s an interesting quote from the end of the article:
    
    “‘These loans are an essential lifeline to help faith-based organizations to stay afloat and continue serving those in need during this crisis,’ Noguchi said in a statement.
    
    “The church and its affiliated organizations were able to provide paychecks for more than 400,000 employees because of the loans, the AP found.” (my emphases)
    
    For balance, I do hope that NONE of those monies go to help pay for pedophilia-related lawsuits.
    
    Also, anyone interested can check out the raft of websites related to the mission statements and to the actual ongoing good works of any religious organization, local, national, or international, including the Catholic Church, <–and the high percentage of THEIR donations that go directly to those good works. CBK
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 2:54 pm
    
    ADDENDUM to my note to GregB: I like many of GregB’s posts. However, when it comes to posts that concern the Catholic Church, the are so biased, someone needs to run behind them with a pooper-scooper. CBK
  - carolmalaysia says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 3:06 pm
    
    Here is the scoop from Breaking Christian News. I am against this. There are struggling businesses, mom and pop stores, that should be saved.
    ……………………….
    Paycheck Protection Program Fund Saved over 665,000 Ministry Jobs
    ChristianHeadlines.com Contributor |
    Thursday, July 9, 2020
    
    A new report released last week showed that the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) rescued over 665,000 jobs for churches and ministries across the country.
    
    The PPP was part of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act passed in March in order to help struggling businesses make payroll as the country reels from the effects of COVID-19. According to Christianity Today, it also marked the first time the US government sought financial protection for clergy and ministry workers as part of a stimulus package.
    
    The Small Business Administration (SBA) released the list, which revealed that at least 11,500 Christian organizations received loans of $150,000 or more. Willow Creek Church in Chicago received one of the highest loans of over $5 million that kept 353 jobs while Life.Church in Edmond, Oklahoma received the same amount and preserved 451 jobs.
    
    The program allowed companies with 500 employees or less to request up to two and half months of payroll costs. The average amount churches took were between $150,000 to $300,00 and kept around 60 jobs.
    
    The SBA compiled the list with a keyword search of church, Christian, Catholic, and diocese. More than 7,000 recipients who received $150,000 or more included the word church in their name. For those churches who included denominations in their names, Catholic and Baptist congregations received the most funds. More than 2,000 Catholic churches were beneficiaries while more than 1,000 Baptist churches were as well…
    
    https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/mikaela-matthews/paycheck-protection-program-fund-saved-over-665000-ministry-jobs.html
    
    ChristianHeadlines.com
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 3:19 pm
    
    carolmalaysia Did you read the last part of my earlier note where it said: ““The church and its affiliated organizations were able to provide paychecks for more than 400,000 employees because of the loans, the AP found.” (my emphases) Also, it looks like a one-off to me, not the rule, though I’ll stand corrected if that proves not to be so.
    
    Also, though there are some similarities, churches are not the same as big corporations, for instance, Walmart. They share some similarity to public entities like the Post Office, more so than with Wall Street Corporations.
    
    Though I do think if Churches are going to expand their business-like participation, they the need to expand their balance sheet to include paying some sort of incremental taxes. CBK
  - carolmalaysia says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 3:50 pm
    
    Catherine King; “…they the need to expand their balance sheet to include paying some sort of incremental taxes.”
    
    This bothers me. They don’t pay taxes but our tax money is supporting them? How many churches say who to vote for? We can’t have any pro-abortion candidates. Trump is the ‘Chosen One’ by God. If they are going to be politically active, pay taxes.
    
    I still say there are more small businesses that should be receiving stimulus money but didn’t and will most likely go bankrupt. This bothers me in the same way as religious schools getting taxpayer money. Separation of church and state should mean no bailouts for religious schools OR churches.
    
    I hesitatingly admit that I’d rather have churches get money that corporations who don’t need it. Neither tastes right.
  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 3:57 pm
    
    “Trump is the ‘Chosen One’ by God.” according to most of the Christians that voted for him.
    
    And, according to Pew Research, a lot of Christians voted for Hillary Clinton. Trump did not get them all. For instance, 67% of Hispanic Catholics voted for Hillary, and she also got 37% of the White Catholics.
    
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
  - carolmalaysia says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 4:06 pm
    
    Lloyd Lofthouse; Do you think churches should receive stimulus money?
  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 4:15 pm
    
    Do I think churches should receive stimulus money? NO!!!
    
    Churches/religions should receive NO public money, not one cent.
    
    To be clear, I was baptized as a Catholic soon after my birth and when I was five, I started attending a local Catholic school, and back then the teachers were all nuns wearing their uniform.
    
    A few years later, due to a labor strike and my dad being out of work, my parents could no longer afford to keep me in that parochial school where every moment and even the weekends are steeped in programing children to become good. obedient Catholics when they are adults.
    
    During those early years, I learned that sinning was okay as long as you went to confession every week and took communion every Sunday in addition to dropping cash in the basket at the end of the long pole that was passed in front of us in each aisle during services. This was the late 1940s and early 1950s. If I told you the sins my godparents were guilty of and forgiven weekly, that might curl your hair if it is straight and if was curled, straighten your hair or turn you bald.
    
    When I was 12, I made the decision to leave the Church and never trust an organized religion again.
  - carolmalaysia says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 4:19 pm
    
    Lloyd Lofthouse: I left the Catholic church when my daughter was no longer living with me. That is many years ago since she’s 41 years old.
    I tried for years to accept the teachings but they never felt right to me. Now I understand more of why it was not for me.
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm
    
    Lloyd “During those early years, I learned that sinning was okay as long as you went to confession every week and took communion every Sunday in addition to dropping cash in the basket . . . ”
    
    I think I understand what you mean, and that, at the time, you were thinking . . . well . . . at the time. But I never heard or even thought that the Church thought that “sinning was okay as long as . . . ” That we can end up thinking it’s okay is a problem with us and not with the Church. As you say later, however, sinning can be forgiven; and for most Christian churches that I know of, forgiveness is an essential part of Christian doctrine. But again, I think I “get” what you are saying. . . Big club. CBK
  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 7:58 pm
    
    I was young. My godfather was cheating on his wife. His wife was cheating on her. My dad was cheating on my mother. My brother was cheating on his wife and she was cheating on him. In their minds, all they had to do was go to confession every week to be forgiven and then repeat the next week and the week after that. The only one that I think did not cheat was my mother and she was the only one that studied the Bible on her own for decades.
  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm
    
    carolmalaysia “I hesitatingly admit that I’d rather have churches get money that corporations who don’t need it. Neither tastes right.”
    
    That’s the best recommendation for staying with PUBLIC institutions that I’ve heard in a long time. CBK
  - Linda says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 8:01 pm
    
    The Catholic church openly discriminates against women- not allowing them to hold leadership positions.
    The Catholic church is unaccountable. A for-profit business theoretically has marketplace accountability. Government has multiple sources of measurement.
    
    The Catholic church has massive liabilities related to lawsuits. Of course, the taxpayers’ money will provide payoffs to the church’s victims. Meanwhile, from the pulpits and state Catholic Conferences (funded by the taxpayers) Catholic leaders will undermine democracy.
    
    “Sexism and Misogyny in the Christian Tradition…How the Christian symbols have been read as a system of domination- derives from a social system in which Christianity was born- patriarchal slaveocracy.”
GregB says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:10 pm

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- Linda says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 1:37 pm
  
  thanks for the laugh.
  
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- dianeravitch says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 1:57 pm
  
  Greg,
  
  That’s great!
  
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Mary Bardmess says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:22 pm

This would be funny if it weren’t true. These people are just like my City Council in Camas WA.

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- Linda says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 1:43 pm
  
  The final speaker in the video listens to Limbaugh. The tell is her cluelessness that the U.S. is a representative democracy.
  Irony- Limbaugh reflects one of the demographic groups most likely to die from Covid.
  
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Catherine King says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:22 pm

They won’t believe it until they get sick and have to go to the hospital. It sounds exactly like a “wing” of my family. At first, they were sending ME articles on how to be careful of the virus. Then, once Fox News and Trump got a hold of them, that’s all gone and there’s no talking to them.

Also, I have to ask: what kind of formal K-12 education did they come from? Do we need any more proof of the importance of civics, history, and the humanities? CBK

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- Catherine King says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 1:25 pm
  
  . . . and (wincing again) these are people who give the thoughtful religious a bad name. CBK
  
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- Lloyd Lofthouse says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 3:40 pm
  
  Hospitals should have sings outside the emergency doors that say if you voted for Trump, we will not treat you. Go home and pray to your faux god to save you.
  
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Jon Awbrey says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:36 pm

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retired teacher says:

July 9, 2020 at 1:56 pm

At the time this video was shot Florida had only 100,217 cases of Covid-19. As of this morning it has 232,718 cases. Magical thinking and politicizing a public health crisis is not going to save people. Reckless behavior often leads to harmful consequences. Only actions based on science can turn this fiasco around. Wake up, red states!

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- retired teacher says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 2:22 pm
  
  cx: are not going to save people.
  
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Thales nemo says:

July 9, 2020 at 2:03 pm

Wow all those winners of the Dunning-Kruger prize! They are still playing with their shiny Paleolithic fables and expect everyone else to do so too!

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Floriduh says:

July 9, 2020 at 2:14 pm

That’s not the only video from PBC either.

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Carla says:

July 9, 2020 at 2:15 pm

Go over to Mar a Logo and have a visit they feel the same way I’m sure!

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Laura H. Chapman says:

July 9, 2020 at 2:36 pm

Do they have the same mindset when driving? I get to choose when I drive, how fast, which side of the road, whether to ware seatbelts, or just hop in my car and go like a bat out of hell because it is my GOD GIVEN right….Honey.
I like Carla’s idea.

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Yvonne says:

July 9, 2020 at 2:48 pm

Omg. These ???? shouldn’t be walking around.

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- Burnzee says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 3:06 pm
  
  Yvonne,
  Worse…they’re procreating!
  
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SteveB says:

July 9, 2020 at 3:25 pm

I have an aunt that lives in Florida, she is in her 70’s. We were never close, but sent a friend request about 15 years ago, and that was fine.

She frequently posts pro-Trump sentiments, and mocked the necessity for social distancing and wearing masks. Recently, she began to feel symptoms of an illness she never felt before, and posted everything she has been experiencing. Her political views still remain as they were, and I don’t believe she will ever see the world through in an open-minded sense.I hope that she recovers soon, and can feel better.

Unfortunately though, these are the attitudes of many Americans in parts of the country that are seeing a resurgence of the virus. Many hold political philosophies that simply run against sound knowledge and common sense, and only see the world in terms of red and blue, and are self-blinded between right and wrong.

Our political affiliations should not guide our morals and beliefs, but vise versa… proper human attitudes and sound judgement should come first and foremost…foundations on which to build upon.

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- GregB says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 9:58 pm
  
  This describes my most of my in-laws as well (not all, thankfully). I can’t disown, sadly, but I do ignore whenever the opportunity is imposed upon me. I get a lot of good reading done whenever I’m subjected to be in the same space.
  
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Lloyd Lofthouse says:

July 9, 2020 at 3:38 pm

More proof that there is no way to talk to STUPID (think Trump and anyone that supports him). That’s why I will only shop at stores that enforce face masks like Trader Joes, Whole Foods and Costco until they top enforcing those rules.

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- carolmalaysia says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 5:07 pm
  
  Lloyd Lofthouse : Costco in my area doesn’t require masks. Whole Foods does and if you don’t have a mask, they will give you one.
  Trader Joes is too far away for my normal grocery shopping.
  
  This video proves that wealth doesn’t translate into having intelligence or common sense. God’s wonderful breathing system doesn’t work well in a ventilator either.
  
  We are going to get punished by God for wearing a mask? Communist dictatorships demand wearing a mask?
  
  This lunacy is partially why wanting children to wear masks in school isn’t going to work. Imagine these crazy parents coming in to the school screaming at everyone. Kids are influenced by what occurs in their home. Some know they don’t have to wear a mask. It might not be God telling them that but their crazy parents are.
  
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  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 9, 2020 at 5:21 pm
    
    Near the end of my thirty years in the classroom, I got sick everyday minutes after entering my classroom. Headaches and wheezing. I wasn’t alone. Found out about 20 percent of the staff was having the same problems. When we left for the day to go home, it cleared up. Soon after we were inside our classrooms in the morning we were sick again.
    
    That’s why I started wearing one of these masks when was alone in my classroom, and I took the school district to court. After years of litigation, the district settled. After my lawyer took his cut of the settlement, I ended up with about $10k.
    
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Pro-Medium-Multi-Purpose-Respirator-with-Quick-Latch-Case-of-4-65023QLHA1-C/206410930
    
    The settlement offer came soon after the morning two district admins surprised me in my room about an hour before my first class. They had keys and let themselves in only to be stopped cold in their tracks when they saw me sitting there at my desk correction papers with that mask on (click the link). With the mask on, I was fine. No headaches. No wheezing and breathing problems.
RT says:

July 9, 2020 at 8:34 pm

If God had meant for man to fly, he would have given them wings like birds. Logic like this has been ubiquitous since anyone’s memory. Rationalizing using religion justified slavery, misogyny, and monarchy just to name a few human fabrications that have existed. If you really want to do something, you can convince yourself that the deity supports you in your desires.

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- dianeravitch says:
  
  July 9, 2020 at 9:51 pm
  
  If God had wanted us to do X, he would have said so in the Bible.
  
  X is anything you want it to be.
  
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  - GregB says:
    
    July 9, 2020 at 10:04 pm
    
    Speaking of X (lyrics fit like a glove with this thread):
SomeDAM Poet says:

July 9, 2020 at 9:28 pm

Future Darwin Award winners for sure.

“The mask is killing people!”

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Callisto says:

July 10, 2020 at 6:09 am

Another satisfied Chick-fil-A – Hobby Lobby customer ….

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- Linda says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 11:15 am
  
  Home Depot and Papa John’s
  
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Máté Wierdl says:

July 10, 2020 at 8:17 am

As I started playing this video, my daughter told me “Dad, just stop playing this, because this enrages me so much.”

Yeah, stupidity combined with blind religious and patriotic convictions have been the driving force behind much of the evil acts through history.

This would be the time for religious leaders to step up. At least Catholics take the right point of view. “For Catholics, wearing masks can be an act of charity for neighbor”

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- dianeravitch says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 8:23 am
  
  Wearing a mask is not an infringement on your personal liberty. It’s a consideration for others and a necessity to stop the spread of a deadly disease. It’s patriotic to protect the lives of others.
  
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- Linda says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 11:17 am
  
  If the people dying from Covid were limited to gays, black people and women?
  
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Jon says:

July 10, 2020 at 12:14 pm

Every time I hear some idiot say that “this is not a democracy it’s a republic”, listening to them repeat this abjectly stupid idea gives me brain damage. They are intellectual serfs who have no understanding of their own government and are incapable of acting in their own best interests as a result. Putting aside for the moment the fact that America is currently much more of an oligarchy than a democracy, these insufferable dolts can’t grasp the basic truth that ‘republic’ is the structure of our government and that ‘democracy’ is the operating system for that structure. I wonder where the idea that America isn’t a democracy came from.

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- Catherine King says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 12:32 pm
  
  Jon “I wonder where the idea that America isn’t a democracy came from.”
  
  Tongue-in-cheek aside, probably because the roots of both terms democracy and republic are read by the Ignorant Expanse as purely political: “democratic” and “republican.” CBK
  
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- Lloyd Lofthouse says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 12:53 pm
  
  Jon wrote, “I wonder where the idea that America isn’t a democracy came from”
  
  Jon, because the United States is not a pure democracy when you know the accurate facts.
  
  A more accurate description is that the United States is a Constitutional Republic with elements of a democracy, but it is not a pure democracy.
  
  Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States exemplifies the varied nature of a constitutional republic—a country where some decisions (often local) are made by direct democratic processes, while others (often federal) are made by democratically elected representatives
  
  “Key Takeaways: Republic vs. Democracy
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"Republics and democracies both provide a political system in which citizens are represented by elected officials who are sworn to protect their interests.

"In a pure democracy, laws are made directly by the voting majority leaving the rights of the minority largely unprotected.

"In a republic, laws are made by representatives chosen by the people and must comply with a constitution that specifically protects the rights of the minority from the will of the majority.

"The United States, while basically a republic, is best described as a 'representative democracy.'”  
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  https://www.thoughtco.com/republic-vs-democracy-4169936
  
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  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 1:30 pm
    
    Lloyd I doubt any of the willfully stupid people in that video would be interested in hearing or reading a thoughtful understanding of such things. CBK
  - Lloyd Lofthouse says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 2:13 pm
    
    True. As I have learned the hard way, it is impossible to reason with STUPID. A cement, block wall would be easier to talk to, at least it doesn’t spew back BS based on more BS.
- dianeravitch says:
  
  July 10, 2020 at 12:56 pm
  
  That’s an old rightwing talking point: “This is a republic, not a democracy.” Implying that popular rule is mob rule. Let William Buckley decide.
  
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  - Catherine King says:
    
    July 10, 2020 at 1:32 pm
    
    Diane “That’s an old rightwing talking point: ‘This is a republic, not a democracy.’ Implying that popular rule is mob rule. Let William Buckley decide.”
    
    Enter: the need for public education for everyone. CBK