In this post, experienced teacher Mark Weber (aka Jersey Jazzman) explains “How Schools Work” and the practical problems that will arise if and when schools open during a pandemic.
Even if schools get all the money they need (which is far from certain), there will still be the issues he raises.
Even if schools get all of the money they need, and staff show remarkable ingenuity and creativity, there are some basic, inconvenient truths we need to face about how schools work before we claim we can reopen safely this fall. So, in no particular order:
– Children, especially young children, cannot be expected to stay six feet away from everyone else during an entire school day. Sorry, even if a school has the room, it’s just not going to happen. One adult can’t keep eyes on a couple/few dozen children every second of every hour of every day to ensure they don’t drift into each others’ spaces. You certainly can’t do that and teach. And you can’t expect children to self-police. Young children are simply not developmentally able to remind themselves over seven hours not to get near each other.
– Children cannot be expected to wear masks of any kind for the duration of a school day. At some point, the mask has to come off; even adult medical professionals take breaks. And anyone who’s worked with young children knows they will play with their masks and not even realize they’re doing it. It’s simply unrealistic to expect otherwise.
– The typical American school cannot accommodate social distancing of their student population for the duration of the school day. Schools were designed for efficiency, which means crowded hallways and tight classrooms. Schools are expected to foster student and teacher interactions, which means close quarters. Expecting every students and staff member to maintain a 3 foot bubble* around themselves is not realistic given the way most school buildings are laid out.
– School staff do not generally have isolated spaces in their workplaces where they can stay when not working with children. I don’t have an office; I have a classroom. I’m only by myself when the kids leave… but everything they breathed on and touched and coughed on stays. I’m not an epidemiologist so I don’t know exactly what the consequences of this are, but I suspect it matters.
– School buses cannot easily accommodate social distancing, nor can they easily adjust to accommodate staggered school sessions. School buses aren’t as big as you remember (when’s the last time you were on one?). Social distancing is the last thing school bus engineers had in mind when designing the things. In addition: school districts often stagger the times of bus routes, usually by grade level, to get all the kids to school (this is why high school often starts much earlier than elementary school). If you go to split shifts, you are conceivably expanding a bus’s routes from, say, 6 to 12.** Unless you greatly expand the school day and pay a lot more for busing staff, it’s not going to work.
– Like every other workforce, school staff have many people who have preconditions that make them susceptible to becoming critically ill when exposed to Covid-19. The big worry I keep reading about is age — but that’s just the start. Three-fourths of the school workforce are women, and many are in their childbearing years; are we prepared to have pregnant teachers working? What about teachers who think they might be pregnant? And then all the pre-existing conditions…
– Schools are only one part of the childcare system in this country. The big worry seems to be that if we don’t get kids to school, parents can’t get back to work. But for many (most?) parents, the school day only covers part of the work day. Before- and after-school programs are a big part of the childcare system. Are we going to be able to enforce all the same restrictions on children during these hours that we will during the school day?
– Unsupervised adolescents cannot be expected to socially distance outside of the school day if schools are reopened. If we’ve got adults showing up at bars without masks in the middle of a frightening peak in Covid-19 cases, what do you think teenagers are going to do when school’s done for the day? Especially if we leave them at home, unsupervised, learning remotely while their parents work?
– Teachers are trained and experienced within an area of certification; moving them out of that area will lead to less effective instruction. When you become a teacher, you get a certification — maybe even two or three — in a particular area. Each certification requires coursework, and often a placement as a student teacher, in that area. A secondary math teacher, for example, has to study math at a certain level, and then learn how to teach it. You can’t expect a kindergartner teacher who’s been trained in early childhood education to do that job — and vice versa.***
– Even within an area of certification, moving teachers on short notice to a new subject or grade will lead to less effective instruction. How hard can it be to move from teaching 4th Grade to 3rd? More than you’d think. Every grade has its own curriculum, materials, assessments, etc. Teachers spend years developing lessons that often can’t be transferred to another grade level or subject; a choir teacher, for example, can’t just take her lessons over to the school band, even if she is a great music teacher. Expecting teachers to move quickly between grades or within areas and not face a learning curve defies common sense.
There is more. Open the link and keep reading.
“If we’ve got adults showing up at bars without masks in the middle of a frightening peak in Covid-19 cases, what do you think teenagers are going to do when school’s done for the day? Especially if we leave them at home, unsupervised, learning remotely while their parents work?”
Isn’t that a problem whether we open schools in person or not?
But if schools aren’t reopened for in-person instruction, we won’t have then doing this and then congregating in large groups at school to pass infections around more efficiently.
Keeping schools safe during a pandemic is not possible given the present circumstances and school funding. Before the kids even get to school, how do you maintain social distancing on a school bus. The bus driver has enough to contend with and is supposed to also keep the kids 6 feet or whatever feet apart (which is not possible on a bus in any case). There are no funds for extra buses.
this is always what’s missing whenever the powers-that-be pontificate on how schools can now re-open: the money for more buses, more teachers, more classrooms….
It is impossible to keep everyone safe in a elementary school, even with smaller numbers in each class. The youngest students are not socially aware enough to wear a mask or stay a safe distance from others including the teacher. They tend to get very close to others. They spontaneously hug and touch each other. Online instruction is totally inappropriate for this group as well. There are no magic bullet solutions for preschool and early elementary schools.
So what should we do?
We have to develop the capacity to test everyone. Only then can we responsibly reopen schools.
I think teachers are going to have a very difficult time explaining this to the public when the vast majority of the public have gone back to work and are not “safe” either, including everyone who works at a daycare.
I just went thru a fast food drive thru. They’re masked but no one is 6 feet apart. I don’t think people are 6 feet apart in the vast majority of workplaces.
I just think insisting you can’t open up for the foreseeable future and offering people no solutions to that at all is going to harm public schools.
Maybe the first solution is to stop the LIES. Like the lie that a public school can do everything we are being asked to do.
Here’s my analogy: if we got to the end of the summer and I told you I had painted my house and went to the beach, you’d say, okay. Nice. Good for you.
If we got to Labor Day and I told you I’d built my own house and taught myself Mandarin and competed in a 1000 mile tuk-tuk race across India and earned a doctorate in physics and, oh, by the way, spent lots of quality time with a toddler you’d be right to say, yeah, you are making this stuff up. No one can do all that in 10 weeks. (And, if I believed my own lies it would be even worse.)
There is no way on Earth under so-called “normal” conditions that a public school could deliver what society wanted from us, pre-COVID-19. So why would anyone think we can do it now?
All cultures have lies. And everyone dissembles at some point.
But we are talking about HUGE lies and people who are willing to live with them. Like let’s start with the 38% of our fellow citizens who still approve of the stupendously horrible job that Liar-in-Chief Donald Trump is doing. https://news.gallup.com/poll/313454/trump-job-approval-rating-steady-lower-level.aspx
38% ??? And, this president is running our country into the ground.
So….schools need to PRIORITIZE. What can we actually do? And, of course, first up is the health and safety of everyone involved. But what next?
Can schools even do this? Prioritize? Can our nation do it? Or is it just decision by default, like the budget sequester?
I’d say let’s start with reading and go from there. Focus on reading -and NOT teaching reading to get kids prepped for some lunatic standardized test. What if we made it a goal to get as many students as we can excited about reading? And, if they are already into reading, help them find even greater books to discover.
We will NOT have school the way it was. But could a 12th grade student come into my classroom, one-on-one and talk to me? Talk about books and projects and how they are feeling living in this crazy pandemic. Behind a plexiglass shield for, say, 20 minutes once a week? Maybe….maybe not.
I was at the local supermarket in Callicoon, NY on Saturday and I ran into a wonderful senior who just graduated. She was working as a cashier behind a plexiglass shield. I knew her immediately and she knew it was me despite the fact we both looked like masked apparitions. It was great to talk to her. We talked at a six foot distance for at least 10 minutes….and I learned something from her.
I didn’t flee…I didn’t refuse to talk to this student.
And, I’ve run into groups of students on the street and I didn’t cower and jump in my car and burn out leaving them in my dust.
Can we make something work in a school? In a classroom? I don’t know. Perhaps not. But I want to try.
BTW let me make a big jump here, folks. I see some parallels between what public school educators are going through right now and what dentists and hygienists are facing.
Our society needs dentistry. We also need public schools.
(Actually, I really need my dentist. I like my dentist a lot and I love my hygienist -plus I have soft teeth so I try to take care of my ‘choppers’. But my dentist was closed down for 3+ months. And, would you blame them? Working in people’s mouths all day long.)
Somehow dentists and schools should have been dealing with these working conditions long before this pandemic hit. COVID-19 isn’t the only pathogen out there. Maybe at some future point workplaces will eventually be as safe as they should’ve been a long time ago -for everyone involved. (If we hadn’t been giving trillion dollar tax cuts to the very wealthiest.)
So Jersey Jazzman, good list and well written, as usual. You are spot on. But what now?
Or should I just go float down the river in a tube like I did yesterday?
Thank God at least it’s warm out there and not -20 degrees.
Take care!
BTW that is why I didn’t get to comment on the posts yesterday about this back-to-school dilemma. I was floating down a river with some young kids on a beautiful afternoon.
And, about the only thing better than that would be floating down a river with Diane Ravitch and some of you along for the ride, too.
John O, wish I were there!
This is going to be a massive race to the bottom. If schools don’t open and offer only “online learning”, in-person learning will then be portrayed as a luxury we can’t afford and only the wealthiest will get it.
You’re effectively ending public education for tens of millions of children. They’ll never open schools again if they learn that people will accept 2 hours on a Chromebook as a replacement for public schools.
Floating down a river. While you are dripping with water, I will drip with envy and continue re-modeling the bathroom.
RT if you saw my old farmhouse (vintage 1853) you might think this guy has no time to float down any river, ha, ha. The bathroom looks like 1970…because there was no indoor plumbing before 1970. But that’s the nice thing about a river….you leave things behind for a while at least.
Your latest argument seems to be that everyone else is working unsafely, so school workers will just have to bite the bullet and work unsafely, too.
“when the vast majority of the public have gone back to work and are not “safe” either, including everyone who works at a daycare… They’re [fast-food drive thru workers]
masked but no one is 6 feet apart.”
Has the vast majority of the public “gone back” to work? Fast-food drive thru workers never left work as far as I know, along with countless others in food supply/ prep/ service – essential workers. Daycare for essential workers, ditto. Where’s your evidence their workplaces are unsafe? Working closer than 6-ft spacing is (per CDC) where mask-wearing is most critical (not ” = unsafe”). Not to mention all the other safety measures being taken in those places. Do we have reports of large #s of foodworkers – or daycare workers – testing positive? The only incidence I know of has been at meat-packing plants, which were not even providing masks to employees. That has changed, & much more testing going on but status still murky. (We can’t extrapolate from meat-packing industry anyway due to concentration of illegals/ labor abuses.)
“I don’t think people are 6 feet apart in the vast majority of workplaces.” Says who? They certainly are at my husband’s office. 70% or more of it can be conducted at home, so space is plentiful. It qualifies as essential engrg work, so even during stay-at-home order you could get in there w/permission & ID – not reqd since reopening, but CDC measures are being followed. Probably typical of office work in general.
My sons work at a school of music. They are still doing a lot of lessons online, but are now also working onsite. Much of the work requires lowering masks, but everyone is spaced at 6ft, in clear “cubicles” using plexiglass and/ or clear polyethylene barriers suspended from ceiling.
Schools are, first and foremost, workplaces. They will have to be run safely like any other workplace. Concerns about the future effects on viability of public schools are irrelevant.
Very much on target!
Arthur Shapiro, Professor Education,
U. of South Florida
I forgot about after school. That’s a huge, new can of worms. Adolescents don’t just go home after school. There would have to be a police enforced afternoon curfew and more social unrest.
Just out of curiosity, where are all these children supposed to go when their parents are all back at work?
To daycares? In groups? So replicate the same conditions as a school except with no additional funding or planning?
Who is supposed to be monitoring their online classes? Their parents are all back at work.
TAGO, Chiara…spot-on. Kids are already hanging out all over the place, w/o masks & no social distancing. (Their parents have already gone back to work.)
That having been said, I have to agree w/Senor Swacker’s comments on yesterday’s posts. Generally, those who run the schools screw things up, pandemic or no pandemic, & this is but a part of there being
no preparedness plan on the national level, let alone state BoEs (who continue to waste taxpayers’ money–meant for real education–on elementary school testing. (Check out Savvus, new owner of Pear$on, & a **hugomongous educational (?) tech conglomerate, owned by–what else?–a private equity firm.)
John, I empathize w/your feelings for being in school: I’ve missed the kids for 10 years now.
Aaand… I want to join you in that tube!!!
You are always welcome if you are in this neck of the woods.
Both you and retiredbutmissthekids speak of all parents “back at work.” Is this actually what you see where you live now? Certainly not true in my town. There continues to be a huge number of adults in evidence– not massed together, but out walking dogs, jogging, taking walks, biking at various hours – never saw that pre-covid. Since mostly both parents work in this area, & many commute (making a long day away), I have to assume a lot more are now working from home. My guess is, if that was working for their employers OK for mid-March to early-June, it will continue, perhaps w/employees just coming in to office periodically.
Thanks, John!
It seems the consistent drumbeat of the Idiot’s Republicans to scapegoat and punish will now go into hyperdrive in education and Covid-19 policy. First the Florida Education Commissioner is requiring teachers to start school in August and now foreign students in the U.S. will be singled out–attend classes in person or their visas will be revoked. The bottomless pit of indecency and gets bottomlesser and bottomlesser by the hour.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/foreign-students-coronavirus-deportation_n_5f041906c5b61c37e0551466
My wife sent me this item in the middle of the night. Yes.
How do you make a diabolical health crisis even worse? By some humans acting diabolical.
Terrible heaped upon terrible. When will the whole, horrible edifice tumble over?
I hope it doesn’t.