Valerie Strauss writes here about a growing exodus from the Zoom platform, which benefits Microsoft’s Teams.
She writes:
Some school districts around the country have started to ban the use of Zoom for online learning from home during the coronavirus crisis because of growing concerns about security, and others are reassessing how and whether to use the teleconferencing platform.
Days after the FBI issued a warning to the public about the “hijacking” of online classrooms and teleconferences, the New York City Department of Education, which runs the largest school district in the country, said teachers should no longer use Zoom and should instead work through Microsoft Teams.
Other school districts, too, have banned Zoom or are trying to beef up security around its use. Clark County Public Schools in Nevada said in a statement that it had decided to “disable access to Zoom out of an abundance of caution due to instances of hacking that created unsafe environments for teachers and students,” but that it was looking at options to that might allow it to resume access.
Asked about the school districts that are banning its platform, Zoom said in a statement:
We are deeply upset to hear about the incidents involving this type of attack and we strongly condemn such behavior. Starting on March 20, we have been actively educating users on how they can protect their meetings and help prevent incidents of harassment through features like waiting rooms, passwords, muting controls and limiting screen sharing. We have also been offering trainings, tutorials, and webinars to help users understand their own account features and how to best use the platform. We are listening to our community of users to help us evolve our approach — for example, we recently changed the default settings for education users to enable waiting rooms by default and ensure teachers by default are the only ones who can share content in class. Finally, we encourage users to report any incidents of this kind directly to https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/requests/new so we can take appropriate action.”
The FBI issued a warning to the public earlier this week about the “hijacking” of online classrooms and teleconferences after it received reports of disturbances by people shouting racist and threatening language and displaying hate messages. It said saboteurs were hacking into online meetings in a phenomenon now called “Zoombombing,” because Zoom has become the most popular teleconferencing choice for K-12 schools and colleges and universities during the pandemic.
Concerns about online security have been rising as most of the nation has moved to online education, with school buildings closed to try to stem the spread of the novel coronavirus that has stopped public life around the world. Schools have rushed to put together online lessons and programs, sometimes without strict security filters. There have been numerous reports of intruders disrupting classes and school meetings, from elementary school to higher education.
For example, University of Florida President W. Kent Fuchs reported an intrusion of a student government meeting by someone who displayed racist messages, swastikas, pornography and death threats.
W. Kent Fuchs
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@PresidentFuchs
Just reported to me that this evening UF’s Student Government meeting was Zoom Bombed with racist messages, swastikas, pornography and death threats. I condemn these horrific messages of hate. I have asked UF IT and UF PD to investigate. COVID-19 and hate will be defeated.
Why would anyone engage in such unethical behavior?

Because they work for Microsoft?
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The thought crossed my mind.
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Bada-bing bada-Zoom!
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This is all so ridiculous – Zoom had done wonders. Zoom will fix what is wrong. This is not the time to vilify a company that has produced a product of great use – most especially during this time. And it is a relief to see something other than Google.
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Who is sabotaging Zoom?
A competitor?
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You asked the Essential Question. “Why would anyone engage in such unethical behavior?”
I think the answer is that the human race will always contain a sub-set of animals who lack the gene for empathy. If such people lead empty, unhappy lives, unconnected to people, to good family, to wise people — if they have no access to people who practice civil behavior, they only know how to hurt… to ”get even” for not having..
Humans through history show such nasty, cruel selfish behavior.
With a malignant narcissist as the model at the top of this nation, a mobster who needs to is take revenge, repugnant behavior is featured in a daily montage.
Moreover, the unintended consequences of of the new technology…that space where anarchy rules–cyber-space– these derelict human beings find company.and the opportunity to sow division and fear. Like the video games they play and the. movies they watch, aggression is applauded, and winning is everything.
Watch prime time cable and see how gown men play **practical ‘jokes. See on the program ‘Ridiculousness’ how the host and his guests laugh at humans who are hurt.
Watch the programs that our teens watch see how aggression is rewarded, and how absolutely nasty some of the teens on these program are to each other.
I have met many such mongrels over my lifetime.
These people who disrupt your lives which are already so chaotic, are losers!
We have lost so much, that their behavior is all the more abhorrent.
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I feel sure FBI will find out Diane – I hope so! And I hope Zoom will fix it. These platforms have been tremendously useful as the Internet itself. If this took place 10 – 20 – 30 – 40 years ago school would be out, period! The fact we all can keep on working and students can be engaged is a miracle! This experience can change public schools for the better and make them more efficient – courses can be partially on-line and class meetings can be less frequent and more valuable (MS and HS). Public schools need to transform – there are not enough forward thinkers – that is part of the reason for the dreaded privatization. Every school building needs to be sustainable – efficient – BEAUTIFUL! – clean. Computers need to be minimized in the lower grades – learn with the hands – handwriting – playing – tinkering – beautiful graceful script writing – READING BOOKS – language learning – bi -tri- lingual!! Students should have organic food – nice dining halls – be taught manners and etiquette and ETHICS. NO COMPUTERIZED TESTING!! Instead of spending countless hours on useless evaluations, we administrators need to spend countless hours in supporting, empowering, enabling our staffs – innovating with them – and I would love to go on . . . .
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David, I hope so!
But the driving force behind the privatization activity is not making schools better, but putting them into the free market. This doesn’t produce better schooling.
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key words to look into deeply: “the driving force”
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And a relief to see something other than Microsoft.
I find Microsoft Teams to be hard to navigate but Zoom was straightforward.
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It is unfortunate that given this situation there are still evil people in this world (!!!).
Ii is NOT Facebook whose owner has, time & again (& from the get-go–everyone here has had to have seen The Social Network!), proven himself to be, well, pretty scummy.
Keep calm & Zoom on!!!
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The company (zoom) is believed to share data with Facebook…..pretty scummy.
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I understand. Just like health care – schools should not be in a free market competition. And what gets me is the fact that we can have suddenly a 6 trillion dollar bail out – but could not have done that for all the poor in this country. If Camden and all the rest of these areas had this investment – providing great training – good jobs – healthcare – our students would be better set to learn. We have a profit press that will not report on the injustice of a horribly unfair economy. If a child does not have enough to eat – THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LEAD STORY!!! Here the press has failed miserably – because their drug of choice: ratings. Good will is the last thing on the minds of the profit press. When I see their promo pieces – I think they all look like undertakers. Plus – news is the star – not a high paid anchor. Those that enable the newscast make a small fraction of what the “stars” make. There should be rotating anchors – each making no more that what the video engineer makes. If I were a high paid anchor, I would be embarrassed working with the paltry paid underlings. End of RANT 2 – but I could go on . . . . .
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&–ps–sure lots of your families are having Zoom seders & Zoom Easter gatherings.
Don’t stop–enjoy!
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I do think it is a worthwhile platform for small scale use, but I don’t believe that schools should be using it due to the amount of data that is gathered.
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It was designed for videoconferencing, not for classroom teaching.
Whenever software is used for something for which it was not specifically designed, there are bound to be issues.
It’s a very poor practice but happens all too often because companies figure they can just repackage the software and sell it for another market without investing anything in modifying it.
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Explain, please. I went to site briefly to look around. Actually saw how a host can control who joins a meeting. I am interested in the privacy issue, though. It sounds like the same kind of issue you might have with Skype or Facetime. Is someone going to post your conversation on You tube? I imagine that companies might be adverse to using any kind of video conferencing if proprietory information could become public.
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If my first response appears later on, I apologize, but I just watched it disappear as I tried to correct spelling errors.
I am interested in what kind of privacy issues you are concerned about. With businesses using these social media platforms for conferencing, you would think the would be the first ones to steer clear if they had to worry about what happens to proprietary information. Nor would participants enjoy being bombarded by ads from enterprises that “bought” their information.
I did start to explore the site to understand how to use it. It struck me that the disruptions are related to not using all the controls that are available to a host. Perhaps the rapid adoption in the face of the pandemic is more the fault than the platform. Is there something I should be looking at that shows the company rolled out the platform prematurely or is in the business of collecting and selling private info?
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speduktr, I’m a low-techie, but [these days] overhear multiple conferences daily joined by engr spouse employee of a large intl engr/ constr firm. They use G Suite for Business which synchs contact groups, calendars, docs, tools, etc – & costs to use. It’s been around longer, serves both biz & govt, & perhaps most importantly, the implementation is coordinated/ guided by the co’s corp IT group. I suspect schools are attracted to Zoom’s free 40-min limit meeting app. No reason to suspect that app has any fewer security features than the higher levels reqg subscription. But most schsys probably lack supervision by a dedicated IT dept that would guide sophisticated deployment of various security features.
So yes, I’m betting issues are related to rapid & unsupervised deployment (not platform). Just like CCSS & VAM & stretching way back to whole language and the new math. Schools are not businesses 😉
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The security and privacy concerns are quite real and many are NOT simply “implementation problems” and ARE directly related to Zoom itself ( the way it was designed and/or coded)
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes
In many cases the issues can be adressed with software fixes but until they are, it’s wise for school districts to take heed.
And that there are so many “issues” really makes you wonder about Zooms development process and how many more gotchas are lying under the surface to be exploited.
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These are the same people who troll comment boards, Reddit, Twitter, whatever. The point seems to be being an ahole just for its own sake; the goal is to be an ahole. It may give them a sense of power to screw up people who are doing something useful, especially if a lot of work was put into it.
There are online platforms specifically designed for virtual classrooms.
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Diane asks, “Why would anyone engage in such unethical behavior?”
This is par for the course. The whole country is going to Hades in a handbag.
People are angry, exhausted, overworked, stressed, and have developed psyches over the years that have become diseased and decayed, thanks to that marvelously functioning contraption known as the American Propaganda Machine, the one that puts individualism as triumphant over collectivism.
And these are weakening each month for the middle, lower, and even upper middle classes: social infrastructures, social safety nets, family bonds, safety, security, wealth building, healthcare, childcare, food security, food and water purity, public schools, public transportation labor rights, consumer rights, patient rights, and just about anything with the world “public” as an adjective.
This virus is uncovering and unraveling everything. It is not only yanking the clothes and underwear off the American mindset; it is showing both X-rays and CAT scans of it, exposing so much that no one wanted to see or was able to see before.
In death and the threat over life, there is a beautiful, almost verdant opportunity for new learning, new mindsets, and new movements, all for a new life . . . . Now is the time.
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This virus will be an equalizer….a reset….a do over. So much rot is floating to the surface that it can’t be ignored. This isn’t just about poor people losing employment. This is about rich people losing employment AND every socio economic class being vulnerable to the invisible boogey man. The Grim Reaper is knocking on everyone’s door and THAT is a scary thought for everyone…..even the ultra religious right.
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My understanding is that teachers are using this platform under several conditions.
One use is under a contract that the district has with Zoom. That contract also provides a small measure of privacy protection for children and a legal basis for asking rfor remedies to god-awful problems with the platform.
There are free-lancing teachers too, some naive enough to show their whole class with each child’s name visible to any pervert and a big temptation for hackers who love to find an ideal website for a grab-and-smash-it raid.
The platform is also appealing for teachers who may or may not be authorized to use it through a district contract. Some are just eager to have some way to stay in touch with “their” students and not just one at a time…as a class. Zoom is a way to retain and prolong memories of mostly positive relationships nurtured for the better part of a school year.
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I’m using the “waiting room” feature, where I have to approve each person who enters our discussion. Isn’t this sufficient for security?
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(“waiting room” feature in Zoom)
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It should be.
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We leaped without looking into Zoom. Now we might leap without looking into Microsoft Teams, which is, what, safe? Nope. Does not being Zoom make Teams okay? No. We’re impulse shopping online, folks. That is not good. Monopolist Bill Gates’ company is involved. Very much not good.
Look before you leap. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. A fool and his money are soon parted. Be careful what you wish for. Better the devil you know than the one you don’t. Beware the Greeks bearing gifts. Don’t ever take a fence down unless you know why it was put up…
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You have it exactly right.
School districts should be FAR more careful .
They should REQUIRE that software used by schools addressed the the privacy and security concerns of schools before schools adopt it.
This necessarily means opening up software to inspection and testing by an independent third party.
There really needs to be a national standards program that tests all software and hardware being considered for use by schools to ensure that it meets minimum standards.
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Here here.
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Beware of geeks bearing gifts
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That’s a keeper.
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Of Greeks and Geeks
Greeks
And geeks
And Trojan horses
Schools
And fools
And online courses
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Zooms
And rooms
And evil forces
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Attacked
And hacked
With no recourses
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That’s a good one: Beware of geeks bearing gifts.
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I’m a teacher. I’ve used the computer so much over the last weeks that my eyes are hurting and I’ve had headaches. I will be severely reducing my time on the computer, tv, phone, etc. even if that means some things don’t get done.
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Hello Mamie and Diane –
Yes this is a great concern. I have always seen computers use as inappropriate in the lowest grades. I would encourage all teachers at this level to assign hand written work. This gets students eyes off the screen (blue light is also a health risk) and keyboard and offers more tactile work – fine motor skills and precision. Teachers might consider printing out the work as a relief to their own eyes. Scanners, printers and paper can be shipped to the homes. I am also very concerned about the cell phone use of children. They are pushing out radiation and I have read of an increase in problems – I even suspect it may effect thyroid function which in itself is an epidemic. Unfortunately the teachers unions, and I fault them here, say nothing about that and even less about providing healthy environments for children and teachers.
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A good way for students to send teachers handwritten work is through Gradescope. Students scan their handwritten work into a PDF and upload it. Teachers grade the work and the software writes the grades to your LMS. The students then get a link to the graded work along with the grading rubric used on the assignment. The student submission process is covered here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMPoby5g_nE
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