John Thompson used to be a friend of Robert Pondiscio, who is now a vice-president at the rightwing Thomas B. Fordham Institute. A decade ago, Robert was a good friend of mine; he was one of the early readers of Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education. At the time (2010), Robert and I agreed on the importance of public schools and the irrelevance of charters. I recall the publication party at the home of then-NYC Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum, where I told Robert how much I appreciated his help and his ideas, which were consonant with mine. I saw him as a professional ally. But since then, Robert has changed his views (as I changed mine in 2008-2010). I never criticize anyone for changing their views, even when I disagree with them.
John Thompson often posts here about what is happening in Oklahoma, where he was a teacher for many years. He also has useful insights on national topics, and I welcome his contributions to our discussion about providing “better education for all,” not just for the strivers or the gifted. The discussion below bears on an extended exchange that I had recently with a Wall Street guy, who has given six-figure donations to Success Academy. He insists that Eva Moskowitz has “cracked the code” and knows how to educate all children, if only the powers-that-be would copy her model. He insists that “every child” would have high scores if they all attended Success Academy charters. Pondiscio helpfully debunks that idea, although nothing I was able to say could change the belief of this donor. John makes the point below that many educators were offended by the claim that Success Academy was for all children; Robert explains that the chain cherry-picks the parents, not the students. I doubt many people would object to Eva or her chain if they openly admitted what Robert demonstrates in his book. Eva’s charters are not for all kids.
John Thompson writes:
This isn’t a review of Robert Pondiscio’s How the Other Half Learns but a review of our edu-political culture using the book review process to understand why we still have to fight education “Disruptors.” A decade ago, Robert and I were long-distance friends, continually sharing thoughts on how we should resist corporate reformers like Michelle Rhee and test-driven accountability, while improving schools like Robert’s in the South Bronx and my mid-high, which was the lowest performing secondary school in Oklahoma.
Now I’m trying to make sense of the aftershocks from the reformers’ previous political victories and the education debacles they prompted.
Being a former elementary teacher, Robert focused much more on reading instruction and curriculum. We agreed on the need to bring history, science, arts, and music back into the classroom, while opposing high stakes testing. Robert was more confrontational. He characterized Rhee’s value-added teacher evaluation system, IMPACT, as “pure lunacy,” and coined the phrase, “Erase To The Top.”
http://www.livingindialogue.com/5801-2/
http://larryferlazzo.edublogs.org/2011/03/30/the-best-posts-articles-about-erase-to-the-top/
Even after we grew apart, Robert wrote, “It’s long past time to acknowledge that reading tests—especially tests with stakes for individual teachers attached to them—do more harm than good.” Moreover, he said, “if your goal is to boost test scores now, you’re incentivizing bad teaching by encouraging a vacuous skills-and-strategies approach to reading, conspiring against patient investment in knowledge and vocabulary, and sacrificing vast amounts of class time for test prep.”
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/knowledge-bank/2015/10/26/obamas-school-testing-talk-is-meaningless
https://www.the74million.org/article/pondiscio-its-time-to-end-the-testing-culture-in-americas-schools-and-start-playing-the-long-game-to-produce-better-life-outcomes-for-at-risk-kids/
Conversely, I took an embarrassingly long time before realizing that the Billionaires Boys Club wasn’t going to listen to classroom teachers.
I’ve been intrigued by Pondiscio’s recent writings, especially his critiques of the reforms that failed in the ways that we and so many others predicted. “Ed reform circa 2010 was riding a cresting wave, but in retrospect it was the high-water mark,” Pondiscio explained. And, ten years later, most of the reform victory has been “reversed or is in retreat. Big reform is dead.”
Pondiscio’s own review of his book foreshadowed ambivalence, at least in terms of what it would take to improve the highest challenge schools, “Regardless of where you stand on charter schools, choice, ed reform or education at large, you’re going to be disappointed: My book does not support your preferred views or narrative.” He concluded:
We have become overdependent on pleasing or expedient narratives that we know aren’t quite right, and we have become tribal in our devotions to them. It’s going to be painful and unpleasant, but it’s time to let them go.
So that’s my new book [wrote Pondiscio]. I hope you hate it
Fortunately, Gary Rubinstein has already written a definitive review of How the Other Half Learns. His title, “How the Other 1/300 Learn” spoofs the claim, which once was presented with a straight face, that Eva Moskowitz and company show what could have been accomplished had teachers and unions embraced “No Excuses!,” accountability, and competition.
Rubinstein focuses on the narratives that “will be devastating to the reputation of Success Academy,” concluding “if it is true that reformers do really like this book and are not just pretending to then Pondiscio has really accomplished quite a feat.”
Rubinstein stresses Pondiscio’s statements, such as the following, which implicitly explain why Success Academy isn’t scalable. Pondiscio wrote:
“• The common criticism leveled at Moskowitz and her schools is that they cherry pick students, … This misses the mark entirely. Success Academy is cherry-picking parents.”
“• Is Success Academy a proof point that the reform playbook works and that professionally run schools with high standards and even higher expectations can set any child on a path out of poverty? Or does the rarity of Moskowitz’s accomplishment suggest that however nobly intended it might have been, the reform impulse was doomed from the start?
“• It would be dishonest to pretend that Success Academy is not a self-selection engine that allows engaged families who happen to be poor or of modest means to get the best available education for their children.”
And that third paragraph brings me back to my review of the process of reviewing How the Other Half Learns. The second half of Pondiscio’s paragraph illustrates the two most salient features of his narrative.
Pondiscio then writes:
“It is equally dishonest and close to cruel to deny such families the ability to self-select in the name of “equity.” Indeed, it is nearly perverse to deny low-income families of color — and only those families — the ability to choose schools that allow their children to thrive, advance, and enjoy the full measure of their abilities.”
First, Pondiscio repeatedly pretends that the issue is how to educate the relatively small number of students who have benefited from Moskowitz et al’s charters. This would be valid if her enemies were elite schools that don’t properly serve poor children. But if that was her obsession, as opposed to a scorched earth crusade against traditional public schools, would educators and patrons have felt the need to resist her agenda?
Second, and most importantly for his book, it created another opportunity for Pondiscio to attack the integrity of his opponents as “dishonest and close to cruel,” and “nearly perverse.”
The following are illustrations of the pattern which reoccurs when Pondiscio is citing journalists’ criticisms of Success Academies:
• Page 259 is a part of perhaps the best reporting in How the Other Half Learns where Pondiscio digs deeper into the exclusionary nature of Success Academy’s admissions lottery. As Rubinstein explains, the truth is even more upsetting than the story Pondiscio recounts. His narrative, however, creates the opportunity for attacking the New York Times’ Kate Taylor for her “armor-piercing articles” that “have frightened prospective parents away.”
• On page 53, Pondiscio characterized “no-excuses” as “an optimistic belief that the root cause of educational failure and black-white achievement gaps was adult failures – not poverty …” Two pages later, rather than acknowledge he had just made the argument against the scalability of the reformers’ solutions, Pondiscio shifts gears and blames educators for “no excuses” going from a “rallying cry to a curse,” after a “sustained attack from political progressives, teachers’ unions, and anti-reform activists,” led by Diane Ravitch, their “Joan of Arc figure.”
• On page 88, closing the chapter on the hugely important New York Times report on a first grade teacher ripping up a student’s work and “exiling her from the classroom rug,” Pondiscio cites the problem caused by teacher turnover. But, he then explains, but doesn’t analyze, how Moskowitz suddenly realizes that the problem isn’t overworked and overstressed, inexperienced teachers, but “leadership via BFF.” The problem is that young teacher leaders want to be liked, so they aren’t tough enough!
• On page 152, Moskowitz acknowledges to charter management organization leaders that she has no idea how to turn around high schools. This previews Success’ failure to run a high school, as well as the admission that “no-excuses” schools haven’t shown much of an ability to produce longterm, life-changing gains. This was an opportunity for Pondiscio to ask for evidence that their behaviorist methods are sustainable, as well as scalable. Instead, he quotes Moskowitz’ description of Success Academy as a “Catholic school on the outside, Bank Street [progressive school] on the inside.” That opens another door to Pondiscio’s attacks on opponents who have “promiscuously used, impressionistically defined” and “fetishized” progressivism.
• On page 159, just after reporting on the beginning of the high school, Pondiscio seems to inexplicably change the subject to the unsupported claim that “students faced an intense scrutiny from critics.” This weird assertion made sense only after he identified the supposed lead critic – Diane Ravitch, “the longtime ed reform critic and fierce Moskowitz critic.”
• On 179, Pondiscio addresses the New York Times description of “students in the third grade and above wetting themselves during practice tests.” Pondiscio’s reply is that it is “inaccurate” to blame “’drop everything and test-prep’” because there is “an overtone of test prep” throughout the year!?!?
• He then changes the subject to the “opt out” movement which is “particularly strident.” And on page 180 Pondiscio seems to defend Success Academy’s test-prep as a part of a new normal which isn’t going away, “”No person in the room … likely ever spent a day in school, as an administrator, a teacher, or even a student, that was not dominated by the imperatives of standardized testing.”
And that, of course, is the real reason why educators across the nation fought back against Moskowitz. As another review of the Other Half by reform-sympathizer Natalie Wexler says, the book’s title is misleading because, “we’re not talking about the other ‘half,’ we’re talking about the other 1%—or less.” Teachers wouldn’t have had to counter-attack if the issue was merely “How the Other One Percent Learns – to Take Tests.”
As Pondiscio used to know, the problem wasn’t just tests; it was the high stakes they were tied to. The problem we fought wasn’t just tests; it’s the teach-to-the-test culture that reform imposed on everyone, whether they chose it or not. We didn’t resist charters just because we opposed competition; it was the resulting toxic culture of competition. The damage was then multiplied as test scores became the ammunition for this battle for the survival of public schools. The biggest problem wasn’t just the false statements claiming that “no-excuses” charters served the same poor students who attended the highest-poverty schools. It was the well-funded and vicious propaganda campaign using such falsehoods to demonize teachers.
After a decade of failure, corporate reformers have backed off from the “bad teacher” meme. But Pondiscio now exemplifies the quieter ways their anger is revealed. Yes, reformers, we have a problem, he says. Then Pondiscio repeatedly spins and blames the problem on those of us who resisted their failed agenda. His theme is, yes, Success Academy failed its student, Adama. But you defenders of the status quo failed my student, Tiffany, and she might have benefited by being in the 1 percent.
I’m afraid this pattern in his (and his colleagues’) writing shows that Pondiscio is just one of many defeated Disruptors who admit that something went wrong but who habitually change the subject by responding to evidence-based criticism with the children’s defensive meme, “I know you are, but what am I?”
Finally, here’s why I approach Pondiscio’s book as an opportunity for contemplation, not just an education case study. I admit to mistakes rooted in my congenital optimism. I’d thought, however, I’d learned my lesson when realizing why corporate reformers were not about to listen to people who saw the world differently. I belatedly acknowledged that the movement was about more than accountability-driven, competition-driven policy; it was a part of a larger privatization movement. I’m finally understanding how corporate reformers, who couldn’t face facts, became Disruptors.
In contrast to Pondiscio, who also sought more pragmatism among traditional school system leaders, as well as a serious effort to build safe and orderly school cultures, I continued to work within the system. Today, after defeating so many of the worst data-driven experiments, its frustrating when traditional public schools remain terrified that a new Goliath will emerge, again attacking the professional autonomy of educators.
The Disruptors’ politics of destruction may have been beaten back. But Pondiscio illustrates the politics of resentment which remains threatening. How the Other Half Learns provides more evidence how and why their experiment failed. It also personifies their anger, and how they still blame teachers (and Diane Ravitch) for their theories’ defeat.
Robert is a bright guy. Some years ago we had a series of exchanges in response to various anti-reform pieces I published.
In most instances I stopped the exchanges when they got to be unpleasant. Unfortunately, he seems as aggressive and confrontational as he is bright.
I always had the feeling that the positions he took were more for the sake of attack than for the purpose of enlightenment.
I think the positions he takes are more for the sake of financial reward than for the purpose of enlightenment.
I would not be surprised if Pondiscio tells himself that “saving” some poor kids by giving them highly funded schools justifies the false narrative he pushes. It’s a neat justification of personal greed — he likely tells himself he is just taking this position “for the poor kids”, and the fact that it is very lucrative to him personally is just icing on the cake. And perhaps he tells himself that all the children harmed by the false narrative deserve it. Or perhaps he tells himself that the ends (some kids getting a benefit) more than justifies the means (pushing lies that harm far more children who rich people who fund him don’t care about so why should he?)
In that way, Pondiscio and many members of the ed reform movement reflect the same ethical and moral compass of many people in the White House who convince themselves that taking kids away from their parents and putting them into cages will discourage illegal immigration and that result is worth all the harm done to the children.
I have no doubt White House officials can find a child torn from his parent and put into a detention center who had an abusive parent. I have no doubt White House officials can find a child torn from his parents who got good medical treatment in their detention center.
But the bottom line is that you can ALWAYS provide the exact same benefits to those children without harming other kids. You do that by telling the truth. Teaching children should not be a zero sum game. There should not be “winners” who get rewards because the only children they are willing to teach do well. But Pondiscio obviously doesn’t agree with that or he would readily acknowledge the truth instead of pushing a false narrative.
It isn’t the students in charter networks who would suffer if Robert Pondiscio admitted that Success Academy cherry picks only kids who are reasonably strong academically and dumps the rest if they cannot be taught by inexperienced teachers doing it the one way they are taught to teach. I repeat, it isn’t the children in charter networks who would suffer if that truth was acknowledged. It is the ADULTS who make their living by promoting the lie that right wing billionaires want them to push who would suffer. And Pondiscio clearly puts the interests of those adults over the interests of children. If he didn’t, why wouldn’t he just admit what is clear — some charter schools have absolutely no interest in teaching students whose academic performance will not allow them to brag about their miracle charter and thus enrich the adults who run it.
And it doesn’t matter how “motivated” their parents are if their child is not helping the adults in the charter achieve their goal — to be able to brag about running a miracle school and get the financial rewards those adults supposedly deserve.
The father of Disruptive Innovation died last Thursday at age 67 from cancer. With justice, his passing will be treated with as much humanity as he showed in his work.
“The Other Half…”s reviewers may be unintentionally creating complexity which feeds a distracting narrative.
In articles, Fordham praises Catholic schools as does, the Koch-linked Manhattan Institute.
Does the book criticize the social Darwinism of the Koch network? The Theocracy Watch site describes parallel schools as a strategy to eliminate public schools. The founder of the Koch’s Heritage Foundation, the religious right and of ALEC was a conservative Catholic.
Does the book align with the state Catholic Conferences and USCCB’s parental school choice mantra? For examples of statements, check out the sites of the Oklahoma, Tennessee and Massachusetts Catholic Conferences.
Is there a Pondicio call for schools to maintain civic order, a feature that bishops tout as a strength of Catholic schools?
A commenter at this blog, who opposed Diane’s support of public schools, left the thread without answering when asked if he thought the Manhattan Declaration (a document signed by 16 bishops and by evangelical leaders) was a step in the right direction. IMO, agreement with the Declaration is a litmus test for the self-appointed privatizers who don’t fit the hedge fund model. Fordham’s financing, does it combine the two?
This: “the [reform] movement was about more than accountability-driven, competition-driven policy; it was a part of a larger privatization movement.”
Theocracy’s coupling with the Koch agenda?
Evangelicals have been excoriated by media, providing shade from exposure, for the USCCB and Catholic Conferences.
I think Robert Pondiscio is blatantly and knowingly lying when he claims that Success Academy is “cherry picking parents, not students”. And he is lying for only one reason — because he knows if he acknowledged that Eva Moskowitz’ charter chains uses practices designed to cherry pick parents AND students, his lucrative position that enriches him personally would be in danger. I think that deep down Pondiscio’s number one concern is himself. Because cherry picking parents is somewhat acceptable but cherry picking students would get Success Academy immediately shut down for illegal practices that go against everything the NY State Charter law was about.
If Success Academy was ONLY cherry picking parents, Success Academy would have the lowest attrition rate of any charter network. Remember that as many as half the desperate parents who WIN the lottery end up not enrolling their kids in Success Academy schools! So the ones that do enroll their kids are very very motivated. So why would Success Academy have any need to suspend many 5 year olds or put lots of kids on “got to go” lists or do what was done by one of their most celebrated Harlem principals and simply refuse to send renewal forms home with kids who they don’t want. But Pondiscio insists that the principal who got caught with the “got to go” list made it all up himself — I have a bridge to sell ya, Robert.
So iet’s do what lousy reporters like Eliza Shapiro fail to do and follow the logical outcome of Pondiscio’s claim that Success Academy ONLY cherry picks parents. The parents cherry picked by Success Academy who actually enroll their children because they are the MOST motivated would be the LEAST likely to pull them out. But instead, Success Academy has one of the very highest attrition rates of any NYC charter network in the single study of attrition. (Real attrition studies are not allowed of charters – sort of like how Trump won’t allow anyone to testify but we should believe charter CEOs and Trump that if they wanted they could prove that they aren’t lying, they just don’t want to and because rich people enable them they don’t have to.)
Robert Pondiscio spent a year supposedly taking a close look at Success Academy and ignored attrition rates. Because attrition rates are what happens AFTER those cherry picked very motivated parents find out that Success Academy didn’t want to teach their kids.
Pondiscio acts like many white ed reformers and many white ed reporters like Eliza Shapiro in embracing an incredibly racist view. And that racist view is that the very same parents cherry picked by Success Academy because they are the MOST motivated to jump through any hoops to get their kids into the best charter in the state would then turn around and pull their kid from that very same charter school at a much higher rate than parents in other charter schools. The unspoken assumption in all of Pondiscio and Shapiro’s reporting — the reason they insist that there is nothing worth questioning as they report on this “miracle” charter school and refuse to look at real attrition rates — is that they believe parents of African-American kids – even the most highly motivated cherry picked because they are so highly motivated – just don’t appreciate good schools like white parents do. So if a charter CEO insists all those kids left because their “cherry picked parents” decided they preferred lousy schools more, Robert Pondiscio thinks “that rings absolutely true to me!” Eliza Shapiro accepts it as not worth questioning since apparently, that racist notion rings true to to her as well. It always shocks me that reporters like Eliza Shapiro do not constantly question the absurd and racist claim — that African-American parents cherry picked for their motivation in getting their kid a great education would “change their mind” and decide they really preferred that their kid attend a far inferior school instead. That would happen ONLY in the very rarest instances. Questions would have been asked long ago if those were all white parents supposedly pulling their kids from a top performing school and the school claimed all those white parents preferred an inferior school for their kids.
But Pondiscio (and reporters like Eliza Shapiro) do clearly believe that about the “cherry picked parents” at Success Academy. I have no doubt that the color of the skin of the families whose kids disappear is part of the reason Pondiscio is not interested in why in the world a charter network that Pondiscio knows cherry picks PARENTS would have “got to go” lists and extraordinary high out of school suspension rates in their Kindergarten and first grade classes. No doubt Pondiscio would claim that those parents are just not motivated ENOUGH and it’s all their fault their kid wasn’t deemed worth teaching. It shocks me that Pondiscio doesn’t understand how racist his embrace of the lie that he presents — that African-American parents who are the most motivated would leave the top charter school in the state simply because they “changed their minds” about wanting a good education for their kids and not because of any action by the charters that made it clear their child was not wanted.
Success Academy Flatbush opened in 2016, with their group of cherry picked parents that Robert Pondiscio claims is the ONLY “cherry picking” that happens. And in the fall of 2019 the first 3rd grade class got their remarkable results — 100% of the students in 3rd grade passed their state math and ELA exams. But not a single education reporter in their haste to report on this “miracle” included in their report the number of 3rd graders that was. (Is that because that number wasn’t in the Success Academy press release crowing about results?)
So I did what education reporters failed to do and looked it up on the NYSED data website — 47 3rd graders and 100% of them passed both state tests.
And that would be truly remarkable if I hadn’t taken the extra minute it took to see how many 2nd graders there were in that school the previous year. There were 74. The second grade class had 74 students. But when that cohort took the state tests the next year in 3rd grade, there were only 47 of them.
So only 47 of the 74 2nd graders stuck around for 3rd grade testing, which means nearly 37% of the 2nd graders went MIA before 3rd grade testing.
I wondered if there was a gender difference. There were 39 boys in that 2nd grade class of 74. But only 22 3rd grade boys took the state exams the next year. So 44% of the 2nd grade boys were MIA by 3rd grade exam time but only 29% of the 2nd grade girls were MIA.
I can’t help wondering how Robert Poniscio explains it. No doubt blaming their parents for not being “motivated” enough. And are parents of girls “more motivated” than parents of boys?
A sign of the laziness of NYC education reporters is that a whopping 44% of the 2nd grade boys at Success Academy Flatbush did not take the 3rd grade state tests the next year. And instead of asking the school about that shocking fact, reporters dutifully tell the public that “100% of the 3rd graders passed state tests”, which just happens to push the false narrative that charter supporters want pushed.
A superb, spot-on take down. Game, set, match NYC PSP!
“its frustrating when traditional public schools remain terrified that a new Goliath will emerge, again attacking the professional autonomy of educators.”
It already has emerged in stealth form: Personalized (computerized) learning.
Once it takes hold, this new and improved Goliath can’t be defeated because he does not live “out there”. Ironically, the thing that makes him immune to defeat is his utter lack of ” personality”. He exists only in millions of computers and takes on different forms for different students.
Opting out will not work against Personalized leaning after it becomes the only game in town.
There will be no other option .
So called “Personalized” learning has all the attributes that the deformers have been striving for (standardization, testing out the yin yang data gathering) built into one software deliverable package but lacks the wholly mammoth nature of current deform, which, like Goliath makes it vulnerable to defeat.
Goliath mutation-
Government employees carrying the freight for Gates through SETDA’s promotion of digital learning and public-private partnerships. All 50 states have SETDA public employees. A former director described SETDA as lobbying. Are they lobbying for their funder, Gates, for their private partners or, for themselves? Citizen democracy be damned?
Google’s Chromebook invasion of the public schools was enabled by adults who should have known better. Over 20 million of these silicon babysitters litter our educational landscape, lulling students across the country into catatonic stupors on a daily basis. Google docs are now the new chatrooms, and real teaching has largely been replaced by students staring at screens (for a change).
Mental health experts recommend less time at screens.
Americans have allowed tech profit takers to abuse their children, in part by electing ALEC’s politicians (Koch).