Bob Shepherd writes here about E.D. Hirsch Jr.’s work, and how it was wrongly appropriated by conservatives in their fight for the canon of “great white men.”
I first met Don Hirsch in 1983 at a conference where we both spoke. We became good friends. We even served on the Koret Task Force together at the Hoover Institution, which we both quit, perhaps for different reasons or maybe for the same reason. While there, we had a public debate with Paul Peterson and Caroline Hoxby. The topic was: Curriculum and instruction are more important than markets and choice. We argued for the proposition, and they argued against. Given that we were at the Hoover Institution, the audience favored the negative. Of course.
Bob Shepherd writes:
There was a lot of willful (e.g., intentional) misreading of Hirsch’s work, which wasn’t helped by the fact that his work was embraced by far-right conservatives who thought that he was all about defending the canon of work by dead white men against multiculturalism. And, unfortunately, his Core Knowledge Foundation had a brief flirtation with Common [sic] Core [sic] advocates, which Hirsch later renounced as a mistake.
So, here, a brief tutorial on his major ideas:
Hirsch first made his name as a proponent of a particular approach to literary interpretation, or hermeneutics. He was a champion of the traditional notion that the meaning of a literary work lies in the intention of the author and that the practice of interpretation is about recovering that intention, which requires not only close reading but also familiarity with the author’s life, the social and historical context of the work, and the literary genres and tropes employed in the work. Well, this poem was written by a courtier, sick of court intrigue, who longed for a simpler, more noble, more real, more honest life and adopted the pastoral mode as an expression of these longings.
In other words, his was a defense of a traditional view of interpretation that required considerable knowledge of the text in context.
Then, Hirsch became interested in freshman composition (which is interesting because, by that time, he was a well-placed public intellectual, and those freshman comp classes are usually foisted off on people low on the academic totem pole). He soon realized that people who don’t read well can’t write well, and this led him to think carefully about the problems he was seeing in his comp students’ ability to read. He soon realized that a major problem, overlooked by “reading specialists,” was that poor readers didn’t have the background knowledge that the writer had assumed they would have.
This important insight led him to formulate a theory that a culture is bound together by inherited, shared, common knowledge. The members of this Amazonian tribe have a shared knowledge of the uses, medicinal and otherwise, of hundreds and hundreds of indigenous plants. People in the English-speaking West are bound together by shared knowledge of things like Mother Goose Rhymes (“Simple Simon said to the pieman”), the Bible, a few plays by Shakespeare, and so on. So (and again, this is rare among English professors) Hirsch set out to conduct studies of what educated people in the United States know. He chose as his representative group lawyers because they were an easily identifiable group of educated professionals. On the basis of those studies, he came up with a list of stuff that educated people in the U.S. know. This list became the core of his best-selling book Cultural Literacy.
Unfortunately, this book hit at the very time that multiculturalism was making great headway in U.S. education, and Hirsch was perceived by many to be a reactionary figure in opposition to that movement. This bothered him a lot because politically, Hirsch was always a liberal.
Here’s what Hirsch was definitely right about: knowledge is an essential component of reading ability. Any approach to ELA that discounts knowledge, that considers the field to be all about the teaching of abstract skills, is doomed to failure because writing and reading and public speaking are extremely dependent upon both descriptive knowledge (knowledge of what) and concrete procedural knowledge (knowledge of how).
It’s possible, of course, both to embrace multiculturalism AND Hirsch’s core ideas. You want to understand Emerson and the Transcendentalists? Well, then, you better understand the Hindu Upanishads, that great spring from which Emerson drank.
I guess I haven’t paid enough attention to Hirsch. Like him, I have moved back to a focus on First Year Composition, much to the shock of people I know (many of whom say I am not using my skills appropriately by doing this–which i think is ridiculous). I’m also bringing reading more strongly into my FYC courses. I have created a reader with a huge margin for student notes and questions, and ask them to look up anything they are not familiar with and jot down what they learned. The short book consists of three “Why I Write” essays (Orwell, Weisel and Didion) followed by Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language,” which they take apart as a group for their final in-class project, replacing his examples with more contemporary ones. One year, I used O. Henry’s “The Four Million,” asking my New Yorker students to compare current context with that of the time of composition. They learned to write more competently while also learning how to read within the dual context of our time and that of composition. I am shocked to learn that I am following Hirsch in all of this, but will look more carefully at his work.
Great reading list! I love those two Orwell essays, “Why I Write” and “Politics. . . .” Annie Dillard’s The Writing Life would work well in this unit, as would Stephen King’s On Writing. Honest writing about the quotidian activity of struggling to put something readable on a page. I can’t get enough of this stuff! Yes, I know, King can be sloppy. But he knows how to tell a gripping story. And he’s honest, which is perhaps the most essential attribute of good writing. Contrast Poe’s “The Philosophy of Composition,” which is purest charlatanism. And, of course, you know Vonnegut on story arcs. He’s in heaven now.
That Vonnegut: pure gold
Thanks. I kept it short this summer for I only had five weeks. When I get back from sabbatical, I want to expand the booklet. Dillard and King would both be useful so, thanks one more time!
And I freaking love your “replacing his examples with more contemporary ones.” YES!!!
That’s something I’ve been wanting to do for years.
Well, it’s freaking perfect. Especially now.
“Here’s what Hirsch was definitely right about: knowledge is an essential component of reading ability.”
I grew up in a poor family that didn’t speak to me…well except for ‘go clean your room’. There were no books, magazines and only occasionally the Idaho Daily Statesman that would come on Sundays. When I was young, my father often would read me the comic section.
My knowledge was extremely limited by what I was taught/shown in school. It wasn’t until I graduated from college and went overseas that I began reading for fun. My knowledge grew because I then read and had traveled extensively to different countries and cultures.
I hate to think of the damage that would have been done to me if I had been tested without any real knowledge of much of anything.
I just read that Idaho now has a new test for K-3 children and the officials hope it will help teachers bridge the gap in learning for those who don’t do well on reading tests. Those who tested low included American Indian, economically disadvantaged and students with limited English proficiency.
What a pile of CR*P to expect improvements based on tests. Thank God that I never had to ‘learn’ in these times that constantly grades children, teachers and schools. Failure to me would have been disastrous mentally.
Why does anyone really think that having a school rated D or F is going to make teachers become better teachers and have students who receive a failing grade thereby gain a desire to work harder to achieve?
A deeply moving piece, Carol! Damn these people who aren’t willing to start with kids where they are, who don’t recognize the differences in backgrounds and readiness, who aren’t interested, who treat kids like freaking widgets who aren’t on different developmental schedules, who want only to standardize and stack rank them and label them as failures from the start. $@@$&$@^@&$@U*$@!!!!! What I think of these Deformers isn’t fit for expression in Diane’s living room. The testing reminds me of the adage, “The floggings will continue until morale improves.”
As usual, Bob is spot on here. I read a great deal of Hirsch’s work at the beginning of my teaching career. Over time, I’ve found his work, and the case he’s made for it, sufficiently compelling to develop several hundred short exercises deriving from entries in The Dictionary of Cultural Literacy. I found in particular the entries on American idioms, of which there are a great many in The Dictionary, particularly useful for assisting kids with low levels of literacy, as well as English language learners, who in my experience struggle mightily with idiomatic speech.
And I agree wholeheartedly that Professor Hirsch came along at exactly the wrong moment in the discourse on public education in the United States. Because of the zeitgeist he inadvertently entered, he was tarred with the same brush as ideologically motivated scholars like Allan Bloom (in Bloom’s book “The Closing of the American Mind,” Saul Bellow, editorializing on multiculturalism, infamously asked in the introduction he wrote for it, “Who is the Tolstoy of the Zulus? Who is the Proust of the Papuans? I’d be happy to read them”) and Roger Kimball.
I think every teacher ought to read Professor Hirsch’s book “The Knowledge Gap: Closing the Shocking Education Gap for American Children.” It’s first rate, elegantly written, and remains a clear exposition of his ideas. Coincidentally, last week I was just looking at the definition of the term “essentialism” in “EdSpeak,” by one of our favorite authors, and found in the Wikipedia page on Professor Hirsch that he is considered an essentialist. While I think he argues that some knowledge is essential–and that’s hard to dispute–I don’t think, as an educational theorist, he is on the same scholarly turf as William C. Bagley.
Thanks Bob. And by the way? If you’re reading this, I changed, at Mark’s Text Terminal, my “skills development” tag to “procedural knowledge.” You’re absolutely right about the importance of the specificity of this term of art, and I am much obliged for your counsel on it.
The title you were thinking of is The Knowledge Deficit. And yes, it’s a good read.
I appreciate this reinterpretation of E.D Hirsch. I was never his fan. I met him once at a small party at my college and he was a very kind and intelligent man. But I think you ignore Hirsch’s attack on schools of education and his claims that his children learned nothing in elementary school since teachers were teaching multiple units on dinosaurs. He really caught hell for that and he deserved some it. When he published a series of books, “What Every First Grader Should Know,” etc., he was definitely not arguing from a multicultural perspective! He was arguing against it. Take a good look at the list of names and facts that everyone is supposed to know. You’ll be hard pressed to find people of color and women. No place in the canon for them! Yes,I agree that he made a good argument for content and process…please….but he exalted the content over process, in my estimation, and that was his mistake.
Actually Hirsch was taken aback by the attacks on him for being monocultural. He added prominent people of color to his review panels to counter that impression. He did attack colleges of education for exalting skills over content.
Well, you knew him personally and I’m sure he was surprised to be attacked at all. I’m not doubting that. Adding people of color to review panels is a nice idea but how he and Joe Kett in the history department put together the list of culturally literate information in the index of Cultural Literacy indicates (to me) that the preservation of the canon was of utmost importance to him. I don’t think he ever modified that list to include people of color and prominent women authors.
James,
Of course he cared about preserving the Western canon. So did I. But he, like me, came to understand that the actual Western canon was much larger than simply the ideas and works of white men. The Western canon is multicultural, multiracial.
OK, I opened, at random, from among the What Your ____ Grader Needs to Know series the book for Grade 5. Here are the titles of sections in that book dealing with essential topics in multicultural studies:
Language arts
Coyote Goes to the Land of the Dead
Chief Joseph’s “I will fight no more forever”
Ballad of John Henry
I, Too
Narcissa
Incident
History
Indian Civilizations in the Americas
The Maya
Mayan Life and Learning
Where Did They Go?
A Fierce Religion
Two Worlds Meet
The Incas
A Small-Lived Wonder
Cahokia, a Mound City
Pueblo-Builders: The Anasazi
European Exploration and the Clash of Cultures
The Muslim Control of Trade
Zheng He
Sugar, Plantations, and Slavery
The Translatlantic Slave Trade
East Africa: The Rise of the Swahili City-States
Islamic Civilization: A Long Tradition of Learning
Japan’s Many Religions
The Land of the Rising Sun
Uncle Tom’s Cabin
How Some Slaves Resisted
The Dread Scott Decision
The Emancipation Proclamation
African-American Troops in the Civil War
A Black Regiment
Johnson’s Plan for Reconstruction
Black Codes
The Freedmen’s Bureau
Three Important Amendments: Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth
The End of Reconstruction
Westeward Expansion: At What Price?
Indians o the Southwest
Indians of the Pacific Northwest
Indians of the Great Basin and the Plateau
The great Plains Indians
American Indians Are Removed to Reservations
The Indian Wars
The Buffalo Disappear
‘The Sioux w=War of 1875-76: Little Big Horn
The Ghost Dance
Attempts to Assimilate the Indians
Splitting Up the Reservations
More Immigrants Arrive in the Land of Opportunity
“How the Other Half Lives:
Reform for African-Americans: Washington and Du Bois
Ida B. Wells Fights Lynching
Women Struggle for Equal Rights
The Cuban War for Independence and the Spanish-American War
Fine Arts
Scott Joplin
Moorish Architecture in Europe
The Taj Mahal
Why, then, was his list in Cultural Literacy never updated to reflect his response to the criticism that he encountered at the beginning? The index looks quite good but I wonder how this knowledge base was/is taught. It’s not just content. The process is just as important and I’m not referring to a skills-based curriculum. That’s like teaching critical thinking skills independent of content.
He had turned to other projects–to creating a knowledge-based curriculum materials and his outline of knowledge that might be taught at each grade level–The Core Knowledge Sequence, which contains quite a lot of material from many cultures, though not enough, I think. I’ve been in Core Knowledge schools. They are very exciting places. He resolutely opposed trying to convert charters to Core Knowledge (though that would have been easier because of their exemptions from state curriculum mandates) because he was/is committed to public education. And bear in mind that the list in that first book was a DESCRIPTIVE one, based on a study of the knowledge that an educated group of professionals in the U.S. knew. My take is that it should have been more PRESCRIPTIVE and a lot more diverse. So we are not in disagreement there.
Many years ago I did a review of research articles about the implementation of Core Knowledge. The overwhelming result was that CK schools were using progressive pedagogy (projects, building things, making things) to learn about content. This discovery squashed the claim that there was an inherent conflict between content and skills.
But you have to give him a break. He was doing some truly original, game-changing thinking, and when people are doing that, when they are headed off into uncharted territory, they learn along the way and, yes, they make some mistakes. I have long been really impressed by the originality and usefulness of his ideas, as well as by the breadth and depth of his scholarship. I left out, in the account above, that he first made his name as a great scholar of the Romantic poets, and particularly, of Wordsworth and Blake. It was his tussles with other Blake scholars (in particular, with Harold Bloom) that led him to his work in hermeneutics, which in turn led him to his work on the key role of knowledge in reading and composition. He could have had quite a comfortable life in the ivory tower, but he felt the responsibility of the public intellectual to do good in the world.
For all those who hate Western Civilization and think it’s the root of all evil, and furthermore believe that insuring complete ignorance of Western Civilization is the best way to protect kids and create a better American society (very dubious beliefs, IMHO), I think Hirsch would say, OK, don’t teach Western Civ but by all means teach something concrete. Put something in kids’ brains. I think that is Hirsch’s most important insight: that content is the foundation of intellect. The more one knows, the more one can read, write, analyze and be creative. Solid liberal arts knowledge fueled The Simpsons writers’ creativity (all those allusions), but knowledge of car engines, hip hop and snow boarding is better than no knowledge at all, and teaching this limited range of knowledge would be more fruitful than all the nebulous skills-and-abstract-concept curricula we’re inflicting on kids today. Bonus: we teachers actually know how to teach knowledge; we don’t really know how to teach skills –we merely order kids to utilize skills they already have and then take credit for “teaching” them these things. No teacher directly imparts the ability to analyze, etc.
Extra bonus: kids like learning facts. Most kids I talk to hate the vaporous Common Core/NGSS skills regimen. I make a point of asking kids I meet what they think of school. I find a national epidemic of school-hating. I think the skills regimen is to blame. I encourage other readers of this blog to ask kids about their schooling. When was the last time you did this? Ask what they like and dislike about school. Ask what they actually do each day in school. Ask if they feel like they’re actually learning.
Of course, instead of having kids “practice their analyzing skills” and other such utterly useless activity, one can concrete procedures (procedural knowledge) that students can then apply. OK, here is a list of character attributes. Apply these to do a character analysis of Scout or Bo Ridley. OK, an essential characteristic is one that something has to have in order to be a thing of a particular kind. “By the Waters of Babylon” is a science fiction story. What characteristics of the story are essential to all science fiction? Find two of these. What characteristics of the story are not essential to science fiction stories (are found in some but not in others)? Find four of these. Finally, what characteristics of the story are often or typically found in science fiction stories but are not essential to them? Find two of these. By making the teaching this specific–by treating it as procedural knowledge, you can actually teach TECHNIQUES of analysis. But what one finds in curricula these days, typically, instead, is vague crap of the kind you are talking about, Ponderosa, in which the student walks away with no news he or she can use to create a character or to develop a sci fi story of his or her own.
A friend of mine who teaches fifth grade told me a story about how she was teaching a story that had frogs in it, and the kids were really interested in frogs and wanted to know what different kinds there were and what they do in the wintertime and whether they were poisonous and if people really eat frogs so on, and they were having a great time on this tangent about frogs and she was telling them about Galvani and how he used frogs to discover that nerves carry electrical signals when an administrator walked in, and she immediately stopped and went to the next skills exercise in the book. After the administrator left, the kids said, “Can we go back to learning about frogs now?”
It really is astonishing, Ponderosa, how many lessons one sees these days in which the kids leave English class knowing nothing of substance that they didn’t know before. But they practiced their skills! ROFLMAO. I’ve cursed silently through many a “training” (Roll over. Up. Sit. Good boy.) that presented such “exemplary lessons.” Aie yie yie.
Love the frogs anecdote.
Not sure I understand/agree with your examples about teaching skills. Are you saying that teaching kids knowledge of the attributes of the science fiction genre enables them to analyze whether a given work is wholly or partly science fiction? If so, I understand and agree, but is this really teaching a technique? It just seems like straightforward fact-teaching to me: science fiction has x, y and z attributes. Is there still some “procedural knowledge” you must give them above and beyond these facts so that they’ll be able to use this factual knowledge to analyze a given story? It seems to me that the ability to analyze is a built-in capacity of our brains.
Suppose that I am sitting down to write a story. I have a character in mind, but he or she is as yet nebulous. One way to approach my task is to make a list of attributes
appearance
dress
childhood memories
pocket/purse contents
physical habits
habits of speech
relationships
interests
peeves
secrets
fears
hopes
worries
motivations
So, I’m following a procedure to do a character analysis.
Suppose I’m writing an essay about x. I might want to start by defining some of my key terms. One way to approach this is by genus and differentia. What class or classes does the thing I’m writing about belong to? What are the essential, defining characteristics of this class or these classes? What are the differences between this class members and other class members? That’s the standard method for most dictionary style definition, and it is a method, a procedure. And knowing the procedure is an example of procedural knowledge. And as I have described it, it’s a LOT more concrete than “word defining skill.” LOL.
I agree, Ponderosa, generally with you about this. Example: our textbooks are full of exercises on supposed “inferencing skills.” But these are pretty useless, generally, because they don’t teach any new procedure to the kid, and the kid already has astonishing abilities to make inferences. Almost everything we know of the world is a result of unconscious, automatic inductive and abductive inference!!! However, that said, people have thought long and hard over many centuries about how to draw different kinds of inferences, and whole sciences/arts have grown up around these, and one can teach the methods of those sciences/arts–of probability theory; thought experiments; various kinds of logic–propositional, predicate, modal, deontic, etc.; heuristics; the hypothetico-deductive method; sampling; polling; and so on.
Bob,
I’m marginally interested in the fancy-pants, advanced level understanding of inferences you frequently bring up, but my hunch is that stuff has no place in a teacher training course, much less a seventh grade classroom. Too rarefied. Don’t you think it’s enough for teachers to know that inferring is a fancy way of saying reading between the lines, and that it depends on two things: 1. a functioning, healthy brain organ; and 2. background knowledge? And, ergo to improve a kids’ ability to infer, we teachers must ply them with core knowledge?
Yeah. I agree, to a large extent. But I’m very much interested in finding ways for kids to do fancy pants stuff if, that is, they are developmentally ready for it. I find, for example, that teaching my high-school kids about classes and defining attributes is very, very useful. One thing I do sometimes: I bring in a lot of random junk from my home, in a big box. Then I make a grand gesture of sweeping everything off my desk onto the floor and dumping the stuff on the desk. Then, I have them gather around, and we sort the stuff into piles. This is the x pile. This is the y pile. OK. Mix the stuff up again. Let’s organize it in a different way. It’s a deep, deep lesson, applicable to a LOT of what we’ll do in class. Are they already capable of doing this? Yes. But they do it automatically. Sometimes, showing them what they do automatically so that they can consciously apply it is really worth doing.
But the rule is always this: give them a procedure. Some steps they can carry out. news they can use. Procedural knowledge.
As an undergraduate French major, I was taught to analyze literature from the framework of something called “explication de texte,” which is most definitely in the style of “hermeneutics.” We were asked to interpret literature using the text to defend our interpretation.
What is considered “educated” is culturally defined. A hundred years ago being educated included intensive study in the classics including Latin and Greek. Today the humanities are considered less important, and they exist in the shadow of STEM subjects. There is still a need for people to have an understanding of the influences that constitute Western culture while most of us have a limited exposure to any Eastern influences. Our knowledge is determined by how the dominant culture defines it.
Hirsch is correct in valuing knowledge as it is the linchpin to thought. With the advent of deform, writing is worse than ever as too much time is devoted to performance on bubble tests. Reading is a receptive skill, but writing is an expressive skill. In order to become a fluent writer, students must spend a good deal of time honing the craft. Unless we reclaim our curricula in public education, our students will be deficient writers with limited knowledge of the arts and social sciences. They will be well prepared to work at Walmart, but most of those jobs will be done by robots.
It’s fascinating, isn’t it, that this close reading was already a standard part of French curricula before the American New Critics decided to invent it. LOL.
“Curriculum and instruction are more important than markets and choice.”
Gee, Dr. Ravitch. Haven’t you heard? The invisible hand of the market fixes everything and ensures that we would live in the best of all possible worlds if it weren’t for all those Socialists getting in the way of the operation of its mystical powers.
BTW, a Socialist is, in the Repugnican dialect of English known as Anguish, anyone who advocates for a public good–something that doesn’t primarily benefit the 0.1 percent. So, spending six trillion dollars on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan isn’t Socialist because that benefits the CEOs of defense contracting companies, but ensuring that poor kids have eyeglasses or that old people have dental care IS Socialist because corporations are persons and persons aren’t. And, a free market, btw, is one that rich people and corporations (those persons that matter) can afford to play in. If you have any further questions about this,see the breathless, purple prose comic book novels of Ayn Rand.
Choice was way oversold. People were drawn to it by the false hope of self empowerment. What they got were monetized schools that line the pockets of the already wealthy, and they lost all their rights. Most of these private charter schools have failed to deliver, and students in both public and private charter school are shortchanged. We sacrifice quality when we spread the money among too many recipients. Corporations are the big winners. They are laughing all the way to the bank in the Cayman Islands.
yup. Very lucrative scams. And, ofc, nonprofit charter school is, typically, an oxymoron.
Nice work by Bob here.
Thanks for this. I always thought it was reductionist to claim Hirsch was against varying the canon and adding newer texts. Read them all! I was reminded of a professor who assigned a stack of supplementary reading—and without it I would not have understood Milton at all—and one of my horrified classmates gasped, “Are we supposed to read all of this?” (This was at the top public university in the country; how mortifying.) The professor replied, “You’re a student, aren’t you?”
When I taught high school, as the years rolled on, I found my students’ general knowledge diminishing. This was in spite of online access to great libraries, museums, and so forth. It is difficult to comprehend literature without some background knowledge of the setting and the author. Whether it’s “Paradise Lost” or “Beloved,” the student reader may be lost if s/he is just flung into the text.
I always had a copy of “Cultural Literacy” propped up in front of the class (along with piles of other books) and every so often a student would flip through it, and then say, “Mrs. W, I know a lot of this stuff!” I would grin and say, “I know you do.” We talked/read/wrote about everything in English class. We had to. Without a deep background, a great deal of allusion and metaphor and tone in good writing is inaccessible.
Anyway, thanks for standing up for E.D. Hirsch.
Cindy,
I’ve been reading Yehuda Amichai, the Israeli poet, lately. How I wish I knew the Bible better! So many allusions. Common Core ELA exercises would do nothing to improve this situation. I need the relevant knowledge. I am not religious at all, but I think we’d be giving all kids a real gift if we did teach the Bible well –as literature. So much in the West depends on it. Oh, but Bible reading will just replicate the oppressive, Eurocentric status quo! Not so fast. There’s a fascinating piece by Marilynn Robinson in the latest issue of the New York Review of Books that blows up the stereotypes about the Puritans, and shows how their serious, close reading of Scripture led them to many quasi-socialist beliefs. Think too about how Martin Luther King’s radicalism was powered by deep knowledge of the Bible (as well as Socrates and Martin Luther, two more luminaries of Western Civ).
Teaching about the Bible as literature would do far more for our kids literacy than the lame ELA curricula we’re using now.
Ponderosa, I was spent a lot of my childhood in my grandmother’s fundamentalist church. I grew adept at daydreaming through hellfire and damnation sermons. But there was one really wonderful takeaway: I had to read a LOT of the Bible. And so, when I got to college and started taking classes on English and American literature, I found, to my surprise, that I understood allusions that my classmates just didn’t get, and there were literally thousands of them in the canonical works we were supposed to read. In a similar vein, try making heads or tales of much of the canon of pre-nineteenth-century literature in the West without knowing Greek and Roman myth. To get a taste of just how dependent these Western traditions are on that source, one need but have a glance through Douglas Bush’s Mythology and the Renaissance Tradition in English Literature or his Mythology and the Romantic Tradition in English Literature.
One of the reasons why Hirsch’s original list was skewed was that it was descriptive rather than prescriptive. Remember that Hirsch set out to answer the question, What do educated Americans know? He published his book Cultural Literacy in 1987, so, the work he did in preparation for this book took place in the mid-1980s. I don’t know what percentage of lawyers (Hirsch’s sample of educated Americans) in the U.S. in 1985 were African American. But according to the American Bar Association’s National Lawyer Population Survey, in 2007, only approximately 4 percent of U.S. lawyers were African American, and in 2017, only 5 percent were. The legacy of racism and economic disparity in the U.S. continues to be reflected in educational attainment at the college level. According to the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, only 9.7 percent of bachelor’s degrees awarded in the 2015-16 school year went to African Americans. So, if you set out to describe what educated Americans know, you run up, immediately, against this disparity in educational attainment. But here’s the deal: Americans without high levels of formal education know things, too, and what they know is also part of cultural literacy (shared knowledge definitive of a culture). According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the percentage of all Americans 25 and older who hold a bachelor’s degree or higher was, in 2016, only 33.4, and that was a historic high. In other words, two thirds of American adults do not have a B.A. or higher. The questions What do Americans in general know? and What do they think they know but don’t? remain to be answered scientifically. Enterprising graduate students–there are a couple significant questions for you to answer.
Bob Shepherd: “The questions What do Americans in general know? and What do they think they know but don’t?”
Trump: “I love the poorly educated.”
Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton, resulting in a 39-point advantage for Trump among this group.
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We are not educated well enough to perform the necessary act of intelligently selecting our leaders.
– Walter Cronkite
America believes in education: the average professor earns more money in a year than a professional athlete earns in a whole week.
– Evan Esar
A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding.
– Marshall McLuhan
It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.
– Mark Twain
We must become the change we wish to see in the world.
– Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi
Great stuff!!!
Thanks, Bob, for summarizing elegantly EDH and these imp issues. EDH was funded initially by Exxon and had deep access to publishing and to media, so I wonder if he can be discussed as “overlooked” or “coming at the wrong moment” or “misunderstood.” Yes, multiculturalism was on the rise in the 80s but also under blistering attack in the culture wars of that time, so any long list of “essential knowledge” embedded in White male Western sources was an appropriate target for critique, IMO. In the 80s, as well, the critique of ‘student ignorance’ and ‘school failure’ were well underway, highlighting how little students know and how derelict public schools had become, emanating from Mortimer Adler’s Paideia group as well as the most-read education report from Reagan’s White House, ‘A Nation at Risk,’ which saw the high school curriculum as a permissive smorgasbord of pointless disconnected classes inviting students to study whatever they want. In this moment, EDH entered as another corrective authority to discipline learning through a singular lens, the long list of appended items. As an authoritative corrective, seems to me EDH was not misread or dismissed or came at the wrong time, but received remarkable backing and support, able to p publish and market a series of primers for each grade level as well as an adult and a children’s dictionary of cultural literacy. (Pls forgive me for special pleading here if I mention that all my books on critical pedagogy were rejected by American publishers at that time.) Moreover, the field EDH joined, composition-rhetoric, my own field, was then in the second decade of a remarkable “rhetoric revival” which indeed focused on “context” as a factor in learning and literacy, but for many in c/r then who led a “social turn,” context fit into “the rhetorical setting” of classroom discourse, that is, context meant inclusion of the student culture and conditions into literate practice–“context and content” were the material conditions of the students to whom we offered language instruction. The students’ extant knowledge, ways of knowing, ways of speaking, orientations and preferences, social class, genders, race, etc. were the starting points for developing critical and academic understandings. This social turn and its critical orientation did not bring official knowledge to class but began from the unofficial texts and knowledge students expressed and moved from there to increasingly complex texts and questions. EDH, on the other hand, already knew what the students did not know and needed to know and made that pre-existing knowledge the syllabus, instead of co-constructing the syllabus as a fusion of teacherly knowledge and student knowledge. In too many and too few words at the same time, this is how I see the fundamental problem in EDH and other traditional pedagogies which some of us criticized back then.
“co-constructing the syllabus as a fusion of teacherly knowledge and student knowledge”
One of the best units I ever taught, Ira, was to a class of 11th-grade remedial boys–all close to dropping out. They were all fascinated by cars. So, I threw out the textbook, and together we wrote a manual on doing simple auto maintenance and repair. It was a great joy to watch these kids–whom no one in my school thought teachable–arguing, intently, over their work, editing one another, working so hard to get it right. They learned a hell of a lot about writing in that class, and I learned something about cars, of which I was profoundly ignorant.
Wow, co-authoring a text with the class, terrific.
Yes. There is much, much to be said, Ira, for your approach–that co-creation that you champion!!!
There is much, much to be learned from Hirsch. I also have a couple issues with (or respectful suggestions for additions to) his program:
First, while I applaud Hirsch’s experimental approach to English studies (Eric Schwitzgebel is doing great work of a similar kind that he and others refer to as Experimental Philosophy), I don’t think that lawyers are perfectly representative of what it means to be educated (there’s a troublesome sample bias there), and indeed, being educated has to be, I think, MUCH more broadly understood. Ask the Hindus among us, and they will be shocked that the Ramayana and the Mahabharata aren’t on that list of things everyone knows about that are essential cultural knowledge. If cultural knowledge is a tie that binds us together, we need an expansive definition of it that unites us in celebration of the riches to be found in the diversity of American (and world) experience.
Second, recovering the author’s intent is but half of hermeneutics (the art of interpretation). The other half is significance to the reader, which varies enormously. So, there are a couple different meanings of “meaning”–intent and significance–that are both important. Why do we read? Well, one reason is to find out what the founders or the Greeks or Robert Hayden or whoever thought. But another is in order to enter into the world of a work and have an experience there that is significant to us. These are not mutually exclusive–a well-wrought work shapes the experiences that differing people have in particular ways. But they aren’t the same, either. So, the question of Validity in Interpretation (the title of Hirsch’s great work on this subject) is complex.
And one of many reasons why a standardized, multiple-choice test isn’t an appropriate vehicle for judging ability to respond to a literary work and why the questions on our high-stakes ELA tests TYPICALLY don’t have the single correct answer that the test makers, in their ignorance and blindness, imagined them to have.
Your response here makes great sense to me.
Thank you, James.
The profound takeaway from Hirsch is, I think, this: writers assume a lot of background knowledge. A lot of bad ELA pedagogy says that teachers should start by “activating students’ background knowledge.” Such utter nonsense. If they have it, it doesn’t need to be “activated.” If they don’t, it has to be taught. Otherwise, the text will make little sense.
Amen, Bob.
Sure, you can enjoy Mingus’s “Fables of Faubus” without knowing who Faubus was, but if you don’t, you’re going to miss the joke. Whoosh. Over your head.
You hit me hard with that example and conjured a memory I had forgotten. In my first year of teaching, my students knew I was really into music and one asked me to write an article for the school newspaper. I don’t have a copy of it any more, but I recall asking students to listen more closely to the music they liked and find out the meanings and inspirations behind them. I recalled how listening to Van Morrison in college led me to read the poetry of William Blake; how Peter Gabriel’s Biko was a perfect introduction to learn about the evil of apartheid; how they should study to understand the verse “they passed a law in ’64 to give those who ain’t got a little more” from Bruce Hornsby’s The Way It Is. Can’t remember the other examples. But I know I often linked Fables of Faubus to Randy Newman’s verses about Lester Maddox in his song Rednecks. So I hope many of you will forgive me with my many references to music here.
It also strikes me that Hirsch would have found an intellectual soulmate in Isaiah Berlin, the father of the field of history of ideas and unflinching champion of pluralism.
Might interest you: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1115447137
Should Berlin interest you—I know you have so much time and are starved for reading ideas!!!—his classic is Four Essays on Liberty which is now available in an expanded edition called Liberty: Incorporating Four Essays on Liberty.
Thank you, Greg! I have spent considerable time, since your post, reading things by and about Berlin. A fascinating fellow!
When I read Hirsch’s, I immediately tuned into the notion that language gained a sort of economy through shared knowledge. He pointed out, if my over 30 years ago memory serves me correctly, that it was much more efficient to call someone a Hitler than it was to say that a person cared very little for certain ethnic groups or due process of law. Shared images are indeed powerful.
I did, however, wonder if the argument was just a futile observation relating to the onset of natural change. How you go about the process of analysis is one thing, what to analyze is still another. Who gets into the pantheon? As a historian, I am constantly amazed at the stories that I run into that seem vital for understanding some political, economic, or social conflict that motivates history. For example, yesterday in an art museum, I learned that Rodin was commissioned to design a monument for Calais to honor heroes of the Hundred Years’ War. I never heard of the incident. Does that make me culturally deprived? What is shared culture except an evolving set of shared bits that morph in the next generation to a new shared set?
Or what is the significance of learning that many of Rodin’s sculptures were actually done by a woman, Camille Claudel, who served as his apprentice? The list of culturally relevant facts that leaves that out is missing something quite important. Yes, masters often, at the time, signed their apprentices’ work. But it’s also the case that men commonly took credit for the work of women of genius. Sartre took many of his most important ideas from Simone de Beauvoir.
A lot of the contributions of women and minorities are overlooked while we are taught to pay homage to the “white guy.”
I’ve been busy outdoors trying to take advantage of the beautiful weather (finally!) while catching up on all the home repairs that get left by the wayside during the school year. (Lots of scraping of peeling paint.)
So, reading this piece is a nice break, here inside on a day that threatens rain.
Well said, Bob. And, very interesting comments, too.
I’m always fascinated by where people pick up the facts, skills, attitudes etc… that they have rolling around inside their heads.
Many years ago I went to a conference about teaching AP Government. I didn’t like the College Board then and nothing since has changed my mind one iota. But, many of the teachers I met at the conference were great.
I remember one teacher talking about how she used the TV show The Simpsons sometimes to illustrate concepts in government. I’d never watched the show and we don’t have cable or satellite or whatever to watch it. (This was pre-YouTube.) So, I bought a season on disk that looked applicable to what I was doing in class.
My own kids here at home got into it. And, now I can’t count how many times my daughter, for example, has mentioned some historical fact or literary reference and I’m like,where did you learn that? And, she’ll say The Simpsons. (We’ve watched LOTS of Simpsons since then.)
I prefer that my kids read (and write) as well as turn off their machines and talk to people face to face. But this is the world we’re living in now, at least most of us.
Content does matter. How we are getting it, well, I’m a bit out to lunch on that question these days.
BTW New York State came out with the new Global History and Geography Regents exam. Students in our high school took the new format test, first offered in June.
I don’t know…the new exam seems like more skills (can you read) versus specific subject content than the old version test. I see it as a fossilized remnant of the now much despised (and renamed) Common Core disaster in New York State. I guess it’s an exam that was set in motion back in the bad ole days of Dr. John B. King (?)
But, maybe other social studies teachers see it differently?
I don’t teach the global course now though I did for almost half my career. Basically I love the content but have always hated the exam -from day one. (The exam = an asinine way to ruin a cool subject.)
To borrow a slogan from the 1960s, “Suppose They Gave a Test and No One Came”
Answer: life and learning would go on, and our children would benefit.
Thanks Bob and Company, for getting me thinking.
I want to see students, nationwide, sit for these tests and write on them,
“My mind is not standardized enough to formulate the requested responses. Please ask one of Mr. Gates’s computers to do that.”
John,
The skill-ification of history has begun. It’s already beset English and science. Here in CA, the new history frameworks redefine history education as the acquisition of a set of skills, including “literacy skills”. This lays the groundwork for new tests that will mostly test these skills, not content. Once the tests come out, there will be much pressure for content-focused teachers like me to give up our cherished (and superior) ways. One of the culprits in this sad situation is the National Council for the Social Studies’ “C3” framework, which deemphasizes content and seems to be the new gospel for history programs everywhere. We must push back.
Thanks for the perspective, Ponderosa
My take, simply, is this: out of a melding of these supposed antitheses–Hirsch’s insistence upon essential, culture-defining and creating knowledge and an embrace of the astonishing diversity of American and world culture, something quite beautiful could be born
but not until we throw off the puerile, innovation-killing Gates/Coleman ELA bullet list.
cx: but not until we throw off the puerile, innovation-killing Gates/Coleman ELA bullet list of vague, abstract, poorly defined “skills.”
Lots of people, whether for or against Gates and his edu-meddling, claim he had good intentions; I disagree. I don’t think the wealthy, conservative drive for standardized tests and curricula, even before Gates became a major player, ever existed with the intent of providing better education. They wanted money. They always just want more money. They wanted data, aggregate data at first in the twenty-aughts and now in this decade, personalized data. If the students gain knowledge, that’s good for the students. But the online tests and online teaching programs touch only on “skills” because, like personality surveys, answers to skill questions provide more data points. Better predictive advertising algorithms are good for the tech and investment banking worlds, not for education.
Long before Gates started his Coring of U.S. schools, I read a speech by him in which he said that the costs of schooling were all in facilities and faculty and that these could be replaced by computers. So, he’s had depersonalized education on the brain for a long, long time. And ofc it just happens to be that he is in the computer biz.
Based on my reading on education, E.D. Hirsch is the wheat; most of the rest are chaff. Teach content memorably and skills follow. Skills depend on content embedded in long-term memory. Thanks for keeping the Hirsch flame alive, Bob and Diane. Someday everyone will see the light.
I used to argue with you about this subject, but now I “see the light.”
Good to hear!
Well, I believe this is the site for hearty debates and open minds. Diane sets the standard, no pun intended.
James Madison on knowledge:
“A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance. And a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the Power that knowledge gives.”
Notice that Madison says nothing about skills. Arming kids with knowledge used to be the function of school. No more. Teaching knowledge is passe. Ignorance is OK because Google. And because skills are more important than knowledge. Few people seem to realize that modern American schools have made a radical break from this traditional conception. Apparently Teachers College professors know better than James Madison. But if Madison is right, their mutant conception of education imperils our democracy.
Great quotation, Ponderosa!
Content is king at every grade level. When I read Hirsch, early on, he inspired me to start a file of folktales, which now fill two files, and one file of ryhmes and chants. Primary students love folktales and easily learn the traditional rhymes and chants. There is lots you can do with a folktale in relation to early literacy. So even though the curriculum may only include a couple folktales, I go through quite a few. Hey, at least when they see Shrek, they will know all the characters!
OML, yes! What a great project! Folk tales are gold. They give us what stories do in these pithy forms that have been condensed down in the caldron of the oral tradition. Familiarity with them gives people an intuitive feel for character types, story arcs and structures, rhetorical techniques, archetypes, ways to begin and end a narrative, and more. I am a big fan of the work of Stith Thompson who prepared the first version of the great compendium of folk tale motifs, which now goes by the name of the Arne-Thompson index. Also fascinating is his book on that work, The Folktale, as are such books as the Russian formalist Vladimir Propp’s Morphology of the Folk Tale (about folk tale structure) and Bruno Bettleheim’s The Uses of Enchantment (about the human uses of folktales–how they helped their makers cope).
Look in vain for reflections of these things in the puerile Gates/Coleman “standards.”
The beauty of fairy tales is that they are universal.
And the fact that they are universal means that they have a lot to reveal about who we are and how we put the world together–about how we think and feel and react. Some of that is downright scary, and some of it really beautiful.
Every culture has its folk tales, and many folk tales occur across cultures.
Many, many. They truly are universal. One finds, in every culture, stories about dragons, three wishes, the magic ring, the drinking vessel that cannot be emptied, talking animals, the child who sets out to find his or her fortune, the grateful dead, the instrument that plays itself, the cruel sister or mother, and on and on. And that’s what the Arne-Thompson Index of Motifs of the Folktale is all about it. It traces these hundreds and hundreds of these motifs in folktales all around the globe. And just as cognates in languages show that they share a precursor language, these cognate motifs reveal a precursor culture, before the great human dispersion around the globe.
“He chose as his representative group lawyers”
That was his problem.
OK. Cue the lawyer jokes.
The best lawyer is. . .
. . . the one on your side.
Yes, the lawyer jokes come hot and heavy, until people need one. Which in our culture is every other second, unless, that is, you are rich enough to own your own stable of them, along with their attendant accountants, in which case, they can take care of themselves.
Here are some ‘great’ facts about Bezos.
Jeff Bezos makes $8,961,187 per hour and Amazon paid no taxes after making $11 billion in profits in 2018. His net worth as of Feb. 2019 is $131 billion. His warehouse workers make $15. an hour. Amazon’s electronics manufacturing is highly toxic to workers. Apple has restricted over 2 dozen toxic chemicals in final assembly factories.
Hi carolmalaysia:
How are you? The truth is painstakingly to admit that it is very sorry for him, Bezos, to be able to have a real enlightenment with that kind of wealth on the sacrifice or the sickness of his hundreds of thousands families of uneducated workers.
Just imagine that if he provides his workers’ families with sufficient healthcare and sufficient wages to have a better living conditions, then he will set the best example relationship between an owner and a subordinate in USA particularly, and in the world generally. Hopefully, he will have a chance to have few seconds of enlightenment which is worth it much more than what he dreams of.
I have read what you wrote in the past and your post to answer to Bob Shepherd. IMHO, we cannot EMPATHIZE the true in theory, EXCEPT JUST FEEL or imagine IT, or exaggerate it in our own different experiences.
We must live in it, or we must experience it in a way to understand or to endure the challenge in order to awaken our pure humanity. I have been in a shipwreck twice, and have endured TIA twice (transient ischemic attack). I can say that these unfortunate circumstances have awaken my pure humanity. Now I can positively know what I really live for the rest of this life on Earth – detachment all material desires on Earth. Love you. May. XOXOXO
Hi May,
“have endured TIA twice (transient ischemic attack). I can say that these unfortunate circumstances have awaken my pure humanity. ”
Sorry that you have had to suffer BUT the fact that you have had your love of humanity awakened means that you are on the right track. Imagine what would happen on earth if everyone cared about each other. Most of the problems on earth would dissolve. Love and beauty exist on earth and both are stronger than hatred and fear.
Unfortunately, there is still too much greed and it shows up regularly in the news. Too many politicians spout hatred and fear and people fall for that line.
There is absolutely no reason that Bezos, with his extreme wealth, cannot care for his workers. Enlightenment for him probably is as distant as the furtherest star is away from the planet earth. Imagine the good that one could do with that wealth. Nobody needs to earn that amount and not do some giving act to make life better. I can’t imagine what goes on inside his mind.
I am doing fine. Thanks for asking. You are a beautiful person.
A number of years ago I made acquaintance with a fellow who had made billions selling property with oil on it to one of the big oil companies. I asked him, once, what he did just after the big wire transfer came through. He said, “Well, I went out and bought stuff. I always wanted a Ferrari. So I bought a Ferrari. And see this watch? This watch cost 450K. I bought that. And you know what this fancy watch does? It tells the time. I drove that Ferrari a week or two, but I was always worried that something would happen to it, so I ended up parking it in the garage and went back to driving my truck.”
After fundamental needs are met, money does not (except during the initial rush) change people’s ability to be happy. Sure, they can travel and stay in nice places, but they have to lug themselves along, and there’s the rub. So, why are the obscenely rich so hell-bent on being obscenely richer? Well, it does buy power–the ability to make things happen, and it buys sycophancy, and it’s a scorecard, and unless they are exceptionally self-aware, they become addicted to those things, which can make them grotesque. This seems, to me, a real danger. In my time, I’ve been poor, and I’ve been fairly well-to-do, and I’ve been everywhere in between. Being really poor is awful. It comes with a lot of attendant worries and worse. But in those times when my primary needs were met in a predictable, stable way, it made little difference, to my state of mind or to my flourishing, how much money I had. All of which reminds me of the possibly apocryphal interchange between Fitzgerald and Hemingway in which Fitzgerald said, “The rich are different,” and Hemingway answered, “Yes. They have more money.”
Bob Shepherd: “…they become addicted to those things, which can make them grotesque.”
These overly wealthy people haven’t learned that more of everything doesn’t translate into happiness. Doing good and caring for others makes people happy.
I would bet that these people put on the best clothes and go out with friends who are probably shallow. Each is trying to impress the other.
I had a wealthy friend whose wife told me once, “If I put my address on my back, I’d have lots of friends. I don’t need those people.”
“Money can’t buy happiness but I’d love to see how it feels.” Oh well. As this article says, once external needs are met, then internal needs of the mind and soul come next. Money doesn’t buy that.
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What Does Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Matter?
posted on JANUARY 22, 2018
The reason I believe money can buy you some happiness is that money can solidly purchase you the physiological and safety layers of the hierarchy. To an extent you can kind of get into the next later or “Love/Belonging” but depending on how financially based the relationships are, they will lack meaning.
Then, as you move up, esteem and recognition that is purchased is hollow and meaningless as well as trying to purchase your purpose in life. When you think about it, the hierarchy starts out by supplying external needs, then moves up into internal needs of the mind and soul.
The higher up the hierarchy your needs are, the less money can help you…
To me, happiness is contentment. Being content with everything, or almost everything, happening in your life. Buying a new TV feels great on the first and second day, but months and years later, it’ll just be a TV. The bright, shiny, newness eventually wears off. Then you’re back to where you started. True happiness is like setting a new level in your life. It’s the standard at which you live. Sure, things will happen that cause you to dip below this new, sustained level of happiness, but eventually you’ll snap right back to it.
In short, if you don’t have food, water, shelter, clothing or the feeling of safety, then money will buy you a bit of happiness. Considering that most people reading this have those things, it’s safe to say that money won’t do much more for you. The rest is up to you and your ability to build meaningful relationships.
Video: Maslow’s Hierarchy of Human Needs:
It is our duty to create a society in which people have their basic needs met. It’s insane and unconscionable that in a country such as ours so many people deal with insecurity over food and housing and lack of access to healthcare. People are waking up to this, as we are seeing in the run-up to this election. We’re in a phase transition. A better society is coming.
Dearest Dr. Ravitch:
I must confirm that this post is very excellent for all English speakers who want to improve their language skills.
If I did not have a stroke, I will definitely read all English books that Bob Shepherd’s list is for grade 5. I have read Fables in French and in Vietnamese. I had searched and practiced all that I learned from 10 years old to 25 years old about Chinese astrology, physiology, and some martial arts techniques. I am fairy good at all hand, feet and facial reading through posture. It is always funny and helpful to have that kind of knowledge.
I always love and respect you as the figure of my parents. I cannot become your friend figure at all in this life on Earth. Yes, my knowledge and both academic and streetwise intelligence that my Mom always praised me beyond my age as compared to my older siblings. The knowledge that I had and have from learning and from my own karma is truly beyond my age. My eldest sister was very jealous about it and very irritated about that.
She is 22 years senior to me. I am sorry about that but I cannot help it to be smart beyond my age.
My true technique is ignore things that we cannot change or improve. But we have to focus on what we can make people realize that they want to be loved and be appreciated by others. Most of all, we can point out that material or wealth cannot bring them the true happiness and inner peace on Earth regardless of being smart or ignorant of literature, and stem.
Respectfully yours,
I always admire and adore your kindness, generosity, and dedication to American Public Education.
May King