Alfie Kohn responds here to the research study claiming that little children need academic rigor and that it’s good for them to start academic studies young. Thanks to Ann Cook of the New York Performance Standards Consortium for asking Alfie to respond.
You mentioned this new study in AERJ, which ostensibly found that teaching advanced academic content in kindergarten is beneficial in terms of academic achievement as well as “social emotional skills”: https://is.gd/FNLhjW. I’ve had a chance to read the study itself, and I am not impressed.
1. This is not a comparison of kids randomly assigned to academic vs. nonacademic conditions. In the kindergartens they looked at, virtually all teachers reported teaching academic skills that were coded as advanced (94% ELA, 99% math); the teachers’ self-reports of how often they did some teaching of those skills were correlated with the outcome variables. “How often” was measured as number of days a month the teacher said she taught those skills, with no measure of how much time was spent at each session (which the researchers conceded) and also with no attention to how the teachers taught (e.g., via direct instruction vs. embedded in play or projects).
2. That drilling kids on content can boost test scores that same year (which happened here only to a moderate extent, incidentally) is unsurprising and means very little — both because such tests are a lousy indicator of intellectual proficiency (in general, and particularly for young children) and also because a body of earlier ECE research shows that any such advantage tends to melt away after a few years.
3. The only potentially meaningful finding, then, concerns social-emotional outcomes. But…
a) The effects they primarily looked at dealt with compliance (self-control, persistence, attention, following rules), and there’s reason to wonder whether these are always beneficial to the child, even if they’re convenient for the teacher. The researchers did ask about internalizing and externalizing behaviors, too, but I’m not convinced these measures would have captured most of the potentially negative effects of developmentally inappropriate teaching, particularly if it took place for sustained periods and was done by direct instruction (which, again, we don’t know).
b) All the social skills and behavioral effects were rated by the same teachers who taught the academic content, not by independent evaluators (let alone by independent evaluators blind to the type of instruction).
c) The ratings were all made that same year. Some long-term ECE studies have found delayed negative effects of this kind of teaching.
d) Of 12 social/behavioral measures, there was a statistically significant (and quite small) effect on only three — which didn’t include internalizing or externalizing behaviors. So the most that could be claimed on the basis of this study is that, with respect to kids’ aggression, anger, sadness, anxiety, etc., there was no short-term effect, positive or negative, as a result of teaching academic skills for an unspecified length of time using unspecified methods…according to the teachers themselves. And of course no attention was paid to the opportunity costs of academic instruction in terms of what the children didn’t have a chance to do during the time they were being taught reading and math. Meaningful benefits of such instruction? Not shown here.

We need to stop equating some early academic skills as some type of marker for superiority. These types of skills generally are associated with children that have educated parents and access to materials that promote a certain type of learning. Early readers are not generally gifted. One study I read equated early reading with children that are introverted and can play alone, and as this post points out, the impact of having these early skills melts away over time.
I have worked with many ELLs that totally lacked any formal education at all. Some of them even lacked basic social skills. Yet, these same students were clever and resourceful, and they were lovely young people. By the way, if getting coconuts from trees were valued in our culture, many of my students would have been declared gifted, and most American students would qualify for “in need of academic assistance.”
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“One study I read equated early reading with children that are introverted and can play alone.” How interesting, never considered that factor. Tho I lived “downtown” briefly [lots of kids to play w/], my early-learning, & extreme bookwormishness [age 6-10] both occurred in rural settings w/very few kids w/n walking distance.
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In Finland, they start reading at age 8 and surpass American readers in 30% less time. Why? We should be asking that question. When I was at the University of Helsinki for a conference, I visited the wood shop where Kindergarten teachers getting their master’s degrees were learning to teach woodworking to kids. Academic learning must be first based on experience to build relevance.
Jerome Bruner called it “scaffolding”. More than a century earlier, the theory of educational sloyd prescribed, Start with the interests of the child, move from the known to the unknown, from the easy to the more difficult, from the simple to the complex, and from the concrete to the abstract. Greater success in academic learning is offered when sufficient scaffolding is in place.
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Emily Hanford has/had (I had to stop following it as it was getting unwieldy and I’ve got a rehearsal schedule to keep LOL) a Twitter thread going about that and when I pointed that out about Finland I got several responses about Finnish being a different kind of language so easier in the long run to decode (not an unfair point), and there was a lot of back-and-forth about decoding needing to come first vs sight words and how reading is actually learned…
Let’s just say the jury is still out – way WAAAAAY out – unless one is an expert in the field, in which case one’s own confirmation bias definitely affects which works are cited to back up one’s viewpoint (and then there are areas not yet studied sufficiently, which is another ball of wax).
But yes, relevance is EVERYTHING to children. I saw it in Montessori, I see it in public schools on a daily basis, and not just teaching Littles either.
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Yeah, so if it’s more difficult to read in English, kids should start it earlier. In general, the more difficult something is, the earlier we should start teaching it to kids.
Here are some ideas about what to start teaching to kids at age 4 or before since they are difficult, hence it takes a long time to learn them: quantum mechanics, politics, adult relationships, safe programming practices, the stock market, religion.
Come to think of it, they start with the last one early on, so only the others need to be squeezed into the preK curriculum to ensure full mastery of them by high school so that we can beat the heck out of the competition.
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The idea that Finnish is claimed by some to be an easier language overlooks the fact that there are two national languages in Finland, Finnish and Swedish, and that every child also learns English and sometimes French. Many children are not developmentally ready for success in reading until age 8, when they start reading in Finnish Schools. We put the pressure on and deter many children from being interested in reading, then we spend a huge amount on special teachers and remedial classes to attempt to fix the damage our schools have done.
I visited schools in Helsinki Finland, and Riga, Latvia in September. In the Latvian school, I apologized for not being able to speak their language. They (5th graders) said, “no worry, our English is quite good.” And we carried on from there.
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Note that it was not claimed that Finnish is an easy language. My understanding is that, similarly to its relative, Hungarian, it’s very difficult to learn. The claim was that Finnish is easy to read (similarly to Hungarian).
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To Máté Wierdl The idea that if something is hard kids should start earlier is a wierd notion. Kids should start where they are developmentally ready to start. Operating a chain saw is difficult. Should we start kids early for that? How about calculus?
My mother, as a Kindergarten teacher knew when a child was ready to begin reading by watching the child attempt to skip. Skipping illustrated the connection between the hemispheres of the brain that allowed the eyes to track words on the page.
But we’ve developed a one sized fits all system of education, a Procrustean bed, in which some are stretched in an unhealthy manner and some have their educational possibilities cut off at the knees.
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“Skipping illustrated the connection between the hemispheres of the brain that allowed the eyes to track words on the page.”
Interesting! Apparently, this connection has been “established”
Click to access Correlation%20Between%20Skipping%20Ability%20and%20Reading%20Levels.pdf
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I once had an eight year old from a very educated Danish family. She was non-English when she arrived. She had never read in Danish; yet she read quickly and easily in English. Scaffolding is the foundation for learning more.
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Let’s also make it clear that reading is also part of the scaffolding, not the real deal we are after.
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I don’t know what relevance means in this context. Are you talking about motivation to read?
In any case, reading is only a tool. As long as somebody reads for us the stuff we like or need, we don’t need to learn to read. So kids first need to find out what reading can do for them before they undergo the long pain of learning to read.
“Why do I need to learn to read teacher?”
“Because then you can read fairy tales yourself.”
“What’s a fairy tale, teacher?”
There is a (maybe more than one :)) good reason parents don’t give wrenches for their 4-year-olds for Christmas: most kids appreciate a doll or LEGO more.
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Based on this critic’s interpretation of the study which is very thorough, behind all the bluster of reform-minded rhetoric on the early benefits of academic rigor, the “rigor” in question simply implies this: complete control of the subject (‘subject’ meaning ‘child’ in this case). So clinical sounding for these students who I feel, through no fault of this critic but the original study, are being treated like what all the reforms want to transform these kids into: rats in cage–getting conditioned for the Race through the Maze with the illusory cheese at the end. Who moved it, right?
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and the way things are shaping up in a first world tech-heavy nation, the only jobs soon available may need only non-creative subservient rats trained to sit in front of computers 8-10 hours a day
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“the only jobs soon available may need only non-creative subservient rats trained to sit in front of computers 8-10 hours a day”, so that humans can go on long vacations.
When I was growing up in communist Hungary, this was always the motivation for technological development: “the better the technology, the less you will work, the longer will be your vacation.”
I liked this motivation. But 40 years later, in the most advanced country, kids get this motivation to study STEM subjects “Your job in the future will be to create more technological advances, so work hard now in Pre-K through university, work even harder after, so you won’t be left behind and die young in poverty.”
Who considers this a motivation for anything worthwhile?
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I was an elementary principal for 21 years, and retired early because I realized how we have forgotten all that we know about developmentally appropriate practices in the name of “rigor.” We have known for decades that the eye muscles, particularly in boys, are not fully developed to fluidly track print until around age 8, yet, we expect every child to be fluent readers by the end of Kindergarten. We know that children build cognitive constructs through water and sand play, painting on easels, building with blocks, etc, yet, these have all been removed from Kindergarten classrooms to “prepare for testing.” We know that children make sense of their world, are able to draw inferences, and develop a strong language foundation through imaginary play, and we have replaced that time for worksheets. This train has been derailed a very long time, and I wish I knew how to get things back to common sense about how the brain develops differently for each of us. Please find your voice and speak out! http://www.lindaslocke.com
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I have been an elementary principal for 21 years and retired early because we have forgotten what we know to be true about developmentally appropriate practices in the name of “rigor.” We know that the eye muscles, particularly in boys, do not fully develop to fluidly track print until age 8, and yet we expect every child (regardless of their physical development) to be fluent readers by the end of Kindergarten. We know that children build cognitive constructs necessary for academic expectations through sand and water play, building with blocks, painting on easels, etc, and yet all of these have been removed from Kindergarten classrooms. We know that it is through imaginary play where children develop language foundations and the ability to understand the points of view of others, and yet, we have replaced that time with worksheets. The train has been derailed, and our children — especially those from generational poverty–have suffered the greatest loss. We need to speak up and put things back in line with what we know about child development. http://www.lindaslocke.com
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sorry this is duplicated. Can’t find a way to delete one.
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There is not link to the study or information of use in retrieving it.
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In addition to the direct journal citation that Laura Chapman has given, Nancy Bailey discussed it in one of her recent posts as well.
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Sorry. You are Laura! Nancy’s blog gives a nice overview and cites other research as well.
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What is the COST of retaining kids? Answer: A LOT! Who profits? Answer: The DEFORMERS. They make more money and at the same time are “turning other people’s kids into slaves.”
I “heart” Alfie Kohn’s work. His book, “Punished by Rewards,” should be a must-read for everyone. Intrinsic motivation is FAR better than extrinsic motivation.
Our young people are not Pavlov’s dog.
Now the word, “grit,” is equated with academic rigor. How STUPID.
Love Singer’s article on GRIT: https://gadflyonthewallblog.com/2018/11/08/grit-is-sht-its-just-an-excuse-to-do-nothing-for-struggling-students/
(Diane posted this earlier.)
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Here is the title of the article under review by Alfie John.
Advanced Content Coverage at Kindergarten: Are There Trade-Offs Between Academic Achievement and Social-Emotional Skills?
Vi-Nhuan Le, Diana Schaack, Kristen Neishi, and others
First Published January 4, 2019 American Educational Research Journal Abstract at https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0002831218813913
There are a few points of possible interest not present in Alfie Kohn’s excellent review and commentary of the study.
Kindergarten teachers were presented with a list of 20 ELA skills and 25 math skills and asked how often they taught the skills in question. The skills had been identified by the teachers as “advanced” content, taught at a higher grade. The ELA topics of interest included such as basic skills (print familiarity, letter recognition, beginning and ending sounds), vocabulary knowledge, and reading comprehension.
The math topics of interest included number sense, properties and operations, measurement, geometry and spatial sense, data analysis, statistics and probability, patterns, functions, and algebra.
This is an extremely truncated view of education, even if common and common cornish. All that seems to matter is ELA and math and not the content/experiences that make for reading “comprehension” or curiosity about ordered relationships that can or cannot be expressed as numbers
The measures of social emotional learning (SEL) were keyed to conformity, compliance, getting along, and learning to do school.
This was a correlational study. Teachers supplied the SEL information. SEL and “advanced math” produced a slight correlation. SEL and ELA did not.
The gist of the study is really the problem, the authors seem to be all too eager to shove academic content from the upper grades down to Kindergarten. There is a net loss of precious time for imaginative play, constructive activities, making up rhymes, singing tunes and learning to live in reasonable harmony with others who are not kith and kin.
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What organization is article author, Diana Schaack, employed by? I am unable to find her listed at the University of Colorado.
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Which article’s author is she supposed to be?
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Schaack was a co-author of the NORC rigor study published by AERJ (linked in Laura’s post).
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Anyone ready for political leaders to start some circular logic? A study discovers that some successful teachers chose to teach some advanced skills. Thus the teachers were responsible for the advancement of the children. Ergo, all students would benefit from such an introduction. Perfect circle,used to be a brand of piston rings.
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Kevin and Arianna, Something to keep in mind as you continue to look at schools. -Joan
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:02 AM Diane Ravitch’s blog wrote:
> dianeravitch posted: ” Alfie Kohn responds here to the research study > claiming that little children need academic rigor and that it’s good for > them to start academic studies young. Thanks to Ann Cook of the New York > Performance Standards Consortium for asking Alfie t” >
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Thanks for Alfie for sorting out the garbage for us. But we did know all along that it was garbage: it looked like one, it smelled like one, while reformists wanted to sell it as food.
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A couple of comments: I don’t think anyone here mentioned the importance of reading aloud to young children (parents, library story times, teachers reading to class). Especially that wonderful experience of reading to your child at bedtime…what a loving & lovely way to tuck in a child. Later, it was always fun when our daughter started reading & read to her dad & I–at bedtime, during the day, whenever. (& I used to do accents–such at when reading “Peter Pan,” or the story of Picasso–which she picked up on &, due to that, started acting classes & professional acting as a child & teenager.) Sniff! Miss those days.
Anyway, to reiterate, knowing that not all children can grow up in this type of a home setting, there is STILL story time/being read to that absolutely MUST take place in day care, pre-K, Kindergarten & even beyond.
Paperwork & “rigor” will NEVER take the place of the aforementioned (&, in fact, probably foster a hatred of academics).
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The University of Chicago is the most well known university in the nation for proselytizing for business interests and IMO, the attitude is, the common good be damned. – Neoliberal and Milton Friedman types.
The referenced study is from NORC at the University of Chicago.
NORC’s 9 locations and its 17 experts in education and early childhood require funding. The site doesn’t list who gives them their money.
It wasn’t surprising that NORC had locations in D.C. and Silicon Valley, nor that it had a location in Wichita. (Koch’s home state)
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John Dewey and Progressive Education came from the University of Chicago, too, and the Pre-K through Grade 12 U of C Lab schools are still Progressive as well.
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Of all of the topics that NORC could study- the selection was rigor in kindergarten and the finding supported a view held by billionaires active in education design schemes….
Universities have changed. Most distressing are the colleges built on the sacrifice of citizens who had the intent to provide quality alternatives to legacy admission schools. Some of those schools allow among their departments, “professors” hired and promoted by billionaires, who work against the common good- a colossal betrayal of public trust.
Would the U of C Lab schools, if given $25,000,000 by Gates, stay steadfast to progressive values? Or, would the schools’ leaders, morph the schools into Gates’ view of progress e.g. the Center for American Progress, the “liberal voice” that he funds?
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I think the U of C Lab Schools are committed to Progressive Education and would not change. i understand their teachers are unionized, too, which is rather rare for private schools..
The Lab Schools’ commitment to quality is probably why people like Arne Duncan, who went there himself, sends his own kids there. When Obama lived in Chicago, he sent his kids there, too, as does current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel — who infamously closed 50 public schools in one day.
Politicians know very well that the schools which are REALLY good for kids are nothing like the schools they have been giving to other people’s children under the guise of education “reform.” Gates knows, too, since his kids also get Progressive Education at their school and he attended that school himself as well.
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The report came from NORC. The Senior Vice President for Education and Child Development at NORC, “provides strategic oversight and direction for the approximately 40 staff members and portfolio of $14 mil. in research projects …She also worked on a Gates Foundation funded study (education)….”.
NORC’s Senior Fellow in Econ, Justice and Society “…conducted research on behalf of the Laura and John Arnold Foundation….” Oh, the irony of having an Enron and hedge fund manager financing research on justice.
NORC’s Senior Research Methodologist was funded for 9 years by the Gates Foundation.
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