Bob Wise is a former Governor of West Virginia and currently president of the Gates-funded Alliance for Excellent Education. He co-authored a report in 2010 with Jeb Bush called Digital Learning NOW, which attempted to promote a vast expansion of technology in the school and classroom with minimal oversight.(I wrote about the report in my book “Reign of Error.”) The purpose of the Wise-Bush report was to urge states to spend more on hardware and software, lest they fail to prepare for the future and/or fall behind other states. The report was financed by the EDTech industry. Each year, the Digital Learning Council issues a “report card” and grades the state by whether they have spent enough on technology. Here is the 2014 report. Such reports rely on the instincts of state officials to want to be #1, even if the goal is wrong. Who would want to be #1, for instance, in infant mortality. Behind the report card is a marketing strategy.
Maine, under its current Governor Paul LePage, jumped aboard Wise and Bush’s digital learning train. A seasoned reporter, Colin Woodard, followed the money and produced this scathing critique, which won the prestigious Grorge Polk Award in 2012 for Education Reporting.
In this article, Wise continues to push technology, but does so on the assumption that there is a “diminishing supply of teachers” and “static state budgets.” Teachers in states like his own West Virginia are fighting those assumptions, on the belief that teachers can and must be paid more and that corporations should pay higher taxes. The possibilities of paying teachers a professional salary and expanding the tax rolls are not on Wise’s agenda.
Funny, I wrote an article in the same publication about the risks of misuse of technology. I mentioned the risk to student privacy; the failure of cybercharters; the lack of evidence for “blended learning” or “personalized learning”; the money spent by tech companies to place obsolete or ineffective products.
Wise mentions none of these risks. He is a cheerleader for EdTech.
Here is an axiom: Learning happens most and best when children interact with human teachers who are in the same room.
Buyer beware. Caveat emptor.

“Wise-Bush” report?!
Ha ha ha!
Is that even possible in theory?
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At least we are “Bushwise” thanks to our teacher Diane.
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Some of us wear Bushwise long before we heard of Diane, looong before.
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At least Wise and Barbara Bush are wise enough to rightly recognize that members of the Bush family are illiterate and need help in that regard:
From a 2014 announcement by Barbara Bush:
“Former Governor Bob Wise named to the Board of directors for the Barbara Bush Foundation for Family Literacy”
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This is why my district is $12.5 million in the red. They took the “deep dive” into tech, to prepare the children for “college and career” and instill “21st century skills.” O brave new world.
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Isn’t Brave New World the book which also had the government handing out SOMA with Friday’s paychecks? Modern Day Big Pharma ready to keep the populace happily drugged while Big Tech steals their creativity and turns them into drones.
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Please don’t be shy, name the district.
The more these districts are left unknown when they mind-bogglingly screw things up the more that they will screw up even worse.
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Those two articles are a wonderful point-counterpoint. One is clear with persuasive examples and points out how easily we can conflate the benefits technology can have and draw wrong conclusions about applying them to the education of children. The other is a blithering list of faddish statements masquerading as an argument. (As an aside, calling an education initiative Digital Promise is a masterful application of doublespeak.)
Wise was the chair of a now-defunct organization of which I was a member. I recall speaking to him immediately after I read Reign of Error and becoming somewhat aggressive as he described what his organization was about. He steered clear of me for the few meetings we had after that. He comes across as a happy, smiling guy, but there’s little there there. He joyfully dances to his master’s melody.
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The best preparation for children who will be adults living in a society with technologies that we cannot yet imagine it teaching them to be creative, critical thinkers, and caring human beings. Every other strategy is preparing them to live in a world that will be gone. Of course, they need to use today’s technologies to learn, but the greatest impediment to that is inequitable funding. That will only occur when we end our dependence on local property tax to fund schools and give up on the current craze to divert funds to charter schools, vouchers and consequential testing.
Maybe I am biased as a science educator, but good science education represents some of those qualities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/12/whats-the-purpose-of-education-in-the-21st-century/?utm_term=.ceb368113a8f
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You so eloquently said in one sentence, your first above, what usually takes me 15 minutes to blubber incoherently. It should be the first sentence of a book you should write.
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I’m not as lured by the shining metal of the hook that is technology. Homo Supposedly Sapiens is no different now than 10,000 years ago in the need of the young of the species to have gentle, loving contact, both physically and mentally, with the elder members of said species. Technology has done nothing to change that basic need.
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Duane,
The technologies that we develop are ultimately a product of our values, as is how we use them. Not to be glib, but we don’t know one another, yet we are using social media to communicate. Don’t think it has to be and either or proposition. The problem is who makes the decisions and based on what goals and values.
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Can’t disagree with your response, Arthur. Your last sentence hits the nail on the head. The problem being that those who do make the decisions have made the usage of technology mandatory, even when that usage takes away valuable time in the classroom and provides no, yes no, benefit to the teaching and learning process.
Being a foreign language teacher, in contrast to you being a science teacher, perhaps it is due to the interactive nature of second language learning versus the need to learn science, the facts of science, its methods, etc. . . that has me more in favor of less technology the better.
And that’s my beef mentioned that the teachers are not any input into whether or not a certain technology will be used, if it needs to be used and/or the reasons for using it. Guaranteed failed implementation at that point.
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Nothing new under the sun! I remember in the 70s a neighboring district to where I taught implemented a computer-like educational system called PLAN, Programmed Learning According to Needs. It touted the idea that each child would learn at his or her pace. As today, it sounds sweet to the ear, but the PLAN lasted for only a very few years. Theory didn’t mesh with reality, creating a cold, sterile learning environment without the human interaction other than checking off the child’s so-called progress sheets before returning to the machine. So many wonderful educational ideas are languishing in the classrooms of America, because the teachers are not seen as respected and revered for their wisdom and experience to be sought and counseled.
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Programmed learning, tried and failed since the 50s.
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I am an IT professional. I believe sincerely, that there is a place for high-tech and telecommunications, and computer-based learning, in the education “equation”. Our current system is based on a Prussian model.
Q The Information Age has facilitated a reinvention of nearly every industry except for education. It’s time to unhinge ourselves from many of the assumptions that undergird how we deliver instruction and begin to design new models that are better able to leverage talent, time, and technology to best meet the unique needs of each student. END Q (from an article in the Atlantic)
see
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/how-to-break-free-of-our-19th-century-factory-model-education-system/256881/
Long distance learning, can be employed to bring a whole variety of educational experiences into rural schools. Not every school can afford a Latin teacher, why not have Latin taught by one teacher, with video classrooms in outlying schools?
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Charles, you have no experience as a teacher. You think only of cutting costs.
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I have never been a classroom teacher. But I have been a video engineer, at a college that uses long-distance learning. The professor is 31 miles from the classroom. See
Click to access ugcatalog13.pdf
I set up the equipment at Bowling Green, and the students were in Glasgow.
Since when is trimming overhead and administrative costs a bad thing? In virtually every industry, technology has reduced costs. It can work in education, too. With an increase in productivity, teachers can be paid more.
Technology works at the university level. It can work at the K-12 level as well.
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Sorry, Charles.
There is zero research to support your belief that teachers should be replaced by machines to cut costs. It produces bad education. What is the point of cutting costs if the endeavor fails?
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As an engineer, would you recommend cutting costs even if it destroys the goal?
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I am NOT saying that teachers should be replaced by machines. That is ridiculous. I am saying, that technology can be employed in education, just like it is employed in other endeavors. On-line instruction has been employed at the university level for decades, it is a proven method of instruction. Long-distance learning, has been used since television was invented.
Information technology can be used at the K-12 level, to reduce administrative and logistical costs, and extend educational opportunities to students, in a cost-effective way.
With two-way video, students in rural locations, at schools that could never afford a Latin teacher in residence, could have real-time instruction in Latin, and other specialty subjects.
SKYPE and video tele-conferencing are proven technologies. The educational establishment should be embracing high-tech, and moving to get this proven technology adopted nationally.
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Charles,
Stop wasting my time with your uninformed comments. Where the schools can afford technology, teachers are way ahead of your wildest dreams. Why don’t you inform yourself before you come to my blog and post whatever pops in your head? Go visit schools. Please
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Q As an engineer, would you recommend cutting costs even if it destroys the goal? END Q
That is ridiculous. There is only so much money in this economy that is going to be spent on education. Would it not be appropriate to reduce overhead and administrative costs, through technology and other means, so that more of our education dollars can be spent in the classroom, to pay teachers a decent, living wage?
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I thought the Russians were behind all our current problems.
But you are saying it’s Prussians too?
Yikes.
How about the Etruscans? Were they also somehow involved in our demise?
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See this video:
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Yes, Charles, Horace Mann was impressed by the Prussian system because it was a public school system. He wanted the state to set requirements for teachers and buildings. He was accustomed to haphazard schooling, where some communities provided schools, others didn’t, rich kids had tutors, poor kids were street urchins.
Anyone who claims that American education hasn’t changed in 200 years is ignorant.
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The Prussian system was not my experience as a student or teacher (before 2000) but it DOES sound just like the ” test and punish” regime of the last decade, with Common Core, VAM and all the rest of the “modern” ideas dreamed up by techy guru Bill Gates.
So I guess we really SHOULD be concerned about Prussians like Gates, Zuckerberg and others, especially given their vastly enhanced powers to monitor students and enforce unwavering obedience through technology mediated testing and rote computerized learning.
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“The Prussian Threat”
The drilling
And testing
And tech-driven hype
Are Prussian
Opression
By Gates and his type
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I prefer a Hessian without no aggression.
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Our district cut the Chinese language program to 1 teacher with 2 schools video conferencing in. The students in the remote schools missed the first 10-15 minutes of instruction every day because they had to go to the library (unstaffed) to log in for the class. Technology issues coupled with the fact that Chinese language is also an art form did not bode well for the 2 outlying schools. The students in the classroom did fine, but the students using the technology often had to remotely connect with the teacher after school to get extra help or make up what was missed in the first part of class. Extra work for everyone involved….students, teachers, parents and admin! It doesn’t work. No one was happy and no one saved any money either.
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Charles, I’ll let Diane argue the economic piece with you.
In regards to the learning part, however, I am a teacher and can share with you that we are using technology in a way that promotes old school learning. The system has not changed at all. It can’t when it’s standards based. So your whole comment is flawed. And the ONLY way Gates and his friends want it to be used is to promote skills based learning, which is old school.
When I started teaching in the 90s we were much more process based and children were learning in a way that Alfie Kohn describes here.
“Show me something that helps kids create, design, produce, construct — and I’m on board. Show me something that helps them make things collaboratively (rather than just on their own), and I’m even more interested — although it’s important to keep in mind that meaningful learning never requires technology, so even here we should object whenever we’re told that software (or a device with a screen) is essential.”
The technology Bob Wise and the current system is all about Kohn’s description here.
“more common, in any case, are examples of technology that take for granted, and ultimately help to perpetuate, traditional teacher-centered instruction that consists mostly of memorizing facts and practicing skills. Tarting up a lecture with a SmartBoard, loading a textbook on an iPad, looking up facts online, rehearsing skills with an “adaptive learning system,” writing answers to the teacher’s (or workbook’s) questions and uploading them to Google Docs — these are examples of how technology may make the process a bit more efficient or less dreary but does nothing to challenge the outdated pedagogy. To the contrary: These are shiny things that distract us from rethinking our approach to learning and reassure us that we’re already being innovative.”
https://www.alfiekohn.org/blogs/ed-tech/
The outdated pedagogy was being changed within the system by teachers who read research by actual educational researchers and implemented best practices by actual educational researchers. Then along came NCLB, Gates and others who had no interest in what was best for kids but what was best for them.
Technology isn’t and won’t fix an outdated education system. Qualified teachers and democratically driven schools will.
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One way to secure the funds to pay more teachers a realistic wage, is to bring more technology and computer-based learning into the classroom. Public schools, must seek ways to spend their education dollars “smartly”.
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Charles,
Technology is a very poor substitute for a human teacher. Have you skipped all the posts here about the stupidity of replacing teachers with machines?
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I am not saying that technology can replace human teachers. That is ridiculous. I am saying that technology has transformed nearly every industry, except education. I have read the posts about replacing teachers with machines.
“Things don’t teach. Teachers teach” – Marva Collins. (Offered the post of secretary of education, she refused, she would rather teach).
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I remember Marva Collins. She ran a little back-to-basics school that conservatives slathered over. A precursor to today’s no-excuses schools. She knew her limits. She was not qualified to be Secretary of Education
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Check out this section in the Atlantic article I posted:
Q Others might teach a foreign language through the combination of in-class dialogue, web-based software, and online activities with students in other countries. END Q
What a terrific concept. (I speak French, German, and Russian). A high-school student who wishes to learn a language, could have traditional instruction in a classroom from a live teacher. Then the student(s) can engage in dialogue in the target language. Then the students can supplement the classroom instruction, with web-based software, to re-inforce the classroom instruction. Then the students could get on a SKYPE session, and have a conversation with high-school students in other countries. This is a terrific way to learn a foreign language!
Why can’t education traditionalists, see that technology complements the classroom instruction, and gives the student experiences that could never be obtained with one teacher standing in front of a lecture hall with a piece of chalk and a pointer?
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Charles,
Teachers don’t stand in front of their classes with chalkboard and a pointer. When was the last time you were in a school?
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The last time I was a student was this morning. I am taking an on-line class in military procurement policy from the Defense Acquisition University. (See https://www.dau.mil/ )
I graduated college in 1983.
I attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California in 1974. The instructors used chalk and pointer sticks.
I was just using a hyperbolic example, to make the point. I know that dry-erase boards have replaced chalk. I know that teachers use laser-pointers now.
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Charles, you comment here 12-15 times daily with advice to parents and teachers yet you have not set foot in a public school in 40 years?
You live in affluent Fairfax County. Visit schools. Educate yourself. That’s your assignment.
I will delete all your future comments until you have spent a day in a Fairfax County public school.
After you do, report back on what—if anything—you learned.
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I will arrange a tour of the middle school, just up the street. How can I confirm to you, that I have completed the assignment?
BTW- You have people commenting on technology, that are not IT professionals.
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Charles,
Report back after you have visited a public school. It looks nothing like a Prussian” school. Being that you are in Fairfax, you should see some good teaching.
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Charles,
Report back after you have visited a public school. It looks nothing like a Prussian” school. Being that you are in Fairfax, you should see some good teaching.
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Charles,
Report back after you have visited a public school. It looks nothing like a Prussian” school. Being that you are in Fairfax, you should see some good teaching.
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Charles,
When you post your report, I will see it.
The teachers who post about technology use it in their classrooms. To do that, you need to be a teacher, not an IT professional.
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Charles sats “BTW- You have people commenting on technology, that are not IT professionals.”
There is a huge difference between a surgeon commenting on the best choice of technology for the operating room and the IT engineer commenting on the best way to do surgery. The same goes for teaching.
Professionals of all types use technology all the time as a tool (the way it is supposed to be used) without being experts on the technology.
I worked as a software engineer for a good part of my career so am well aware that the primary goal of any GOOD IT professional is to produce a system that can be used by it’s target customers as easily and seemlessly as possible — ie, without their having to be IT experts.
I also remember the ” early days” (of DOS, before Windows) when many programmers had the attitude that the users should conform to the programmer’s preconceived notions about how best to do things. So, computer users had to remember a bunch of text commands to get the computer to do anything. In other words, the technology was driving the people rather than the other way around.
Thankfully, Xerox Parc changed that “IT centered model,” with their invention of the graphical user interface and mouse, which put the user in the driver’s seat.
But apparently some IT professionals STILL have the attitude that the Users (in this case teachers) should bend the ways they do things to “fit” the technologist’s preconceived notions.
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By the way, perhaps the most infamous example of the arrogant attitude that users should just suck it up and conform to the technologist’s way of doing things is the “ctrl-alt-delete” key sequence to log in to a PC which persisted through many versions of Windows.
Even Gates admits that was a mistake, but as is his habit, blames someone else:
“we could have had a single button, but the guy who did the IBM keyboard design didn’t wanna give us our single button
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How can you pretend that technology saves money when you have to buy hardware (and maintain and replace it early and often) as well as buy the software and licenses for hundreds of users that need to be re-licensed every year? If you seriously think tech is cheaper than human beings, you haven’t been paying attention lately.
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Are you an IT professional? I am. What planet are you from? Information technology has reduced costs in every industry. I work as a systems engineer, at the Pentagon. Technology has saved the US military many billions. Trust me on that.
Long-distance learning is very cost-effective. One instructor can teach students in many different locations, by two-way video.
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Charles, one thing no one has mentioned in this thread is what is being lost without human interaction between real life human teachers and human students and students with students. Social interaction is a vital part of education and that includes sports. Try playing baseball or football with a computer by yourself and see how that compares to being in a team with real human children.
I’ll use one example in a futile attempt to make my point. Grace VanderWaal, because she won America’s Got Talent in 2016 at age 12, became a music sensation and due to her heavy schedule traveling the world and the nation performing her own music in front of sold-out venues, she dropped out of public school and was homeschooled for her first year as a multiple award-winning music prodigies with millions of fans.
She hated it and the main reason she hated it was that she became isoalted and was alone. For hours each day, she was stuck in front of a tube without a teacher and without other children to be with. That lasted for one year and then she returned to a classroom with other kids and real-life teachers because social interaction is also part of an education. In fact, EQ is more important than IQ and EQ cannot develop in a tech vacuum where children are isolated from other children and adults.
And performing in front of hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands of fans is not the same as interacting with other children in a classroom with a real-life teachers.
Tech cannot replace that.
Steven Spielberg just released a film last week on this topic. It’s called “Player One”. You have to see the film to get the message that we also need human interaction face to face.
Then there is this:
“Too Much Screen Time Damages the Brain”
Brain scan research findings in screen addiction:
Gray matter atrophy: Multiple studies have shown atrophy (shrinkage or loss of tissue volume) in gray matter areas (where “processing” occurs) in internet/gaming addiction (Zhou 2011 (link is external), Yuan 2011 (link is external), Weng 2013 (link is external),and Weng 2012 (link is external)). Areas affected included the important frontal lobe, which governs executive functions, such as planning, planning, prioritizing, organizing, and impulse control (“getting stuff done”). Volume loss was also seen in the striatum, which is involved in reward pathways and the suppression of socially unacceptable impulses. A finding of particular concern was damage to an area known is the insula, which is involved in our capacity to develop empathy and compassion for others and our ability to integrate physical signals with emotion. Aside from the obvious link to violent behavior, these skills dictate the depth and quality of personal relationships.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-wealth/201402/gray-matters-too-much-screen-time-damages-the-brain
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The idea that teachers do not currently use technology in the classroom is just silly.
The real issue is whether teachers should be driving the choice and use of technology or whether the technology should be driving the teachers.
The tech companies would clearly prefer the latter and are marketing stuff like “personalized learning” with that goal in mind.
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Or “Whether technology should be driving the teachers out of the picture completely”
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Let’s start a project to develop technology where we dill holes in a child’s skull and link them directly to an AI computer that will just download everything someone like Gates thinks they should know.
And, the first children we will experiment on to try it out will be the children of Bill and Melinda Gates, the children and grandchildren of the Koch brothers, of Betsy DeVos, of the Walton family, of Eli Broad, et al.
In addition, once we wire them up to that AI computer, we never disconnect them and make sure the wires are short.
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We can redefine a lifetime to: “From A Clockwork Orange to Soylent Green.”
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Charles you may be an IT professional, but you are not an educator, and children are human beings, not robots. As fur “reduced costs”–true, but its more like “the first crack pipe is free.” The stuff needs incessant maintenance, the IT pros are expensive, and there is no evidence that all this folderol and flapdoodle actually improves education.
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Sorry about the typos, esp. “its” instead of “it’s,” but I have seen so many non-teaching staff waltz in with the consultants and use technology to destroy basic literacy.
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Why is it that techno geeks think that computers will lower the bottom line in education? While it is true that computers save energy in bookkeeping and tax preparation, my experience is that computers have swelled the teacher work load with requirements of reviewing data and producing snazzy reports. This is besides the hours teachers spend learning one program or another so that they can use it to better bring their lesson.
I remember when the prediction was that keyboards would be gone soon and paper was a thing of the past. Wrong on both counts.
The reason computers do not save money in education is that computers open opportunities for teachers to better teach children. The more children learn, the more they need human interaction. I used to be restricted to the process of assigning work to be done at home that was primarily practice at things we had done at school that day. With computers, if every child had one, I could require multiple readings on a subject and spend class in discussion of the reading. But that is the problem. To assure every child had a computer would require the state to buy about 4 in 10 of my students a computer and the connectivity needed to access the sort of lesson I describe above. Then they would have to buy twice the teachers, for discussion cannot go on without small groups of students with knowledgeable instructors.
I do not believe that there is a restricted level of funding for schools based on society’s wish for low taxes, but neither do I believe the people who have the money in this economy will ever buy the type of education described above. Tech makes school expensive, pure and simple. Perhaps it is good. But it is way more expensive than a teacher standing in front of a class explaining things to a well motivated group.
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“Why is it that techno geeks think that computers will lower the bottom line in education?”
Great question and I think I have the answer. It’s the same reason why most if not all TFA recruits think they are going to swoop into a classroom in a school with a high child poverty rate and they are going to magically succeed just because they think they can.
When reality hits them, hard, most of them leave before their two-year contract with TFA ends.
These techno geeks honesty think America’s teachers don’t have what it takes, but they do until they discover the same thing most of the TFA recruits learn. That teaching is one of the most challenging, most demanding, most difficult jobs on this planet, especially in the United States where teachers have been corporate America’s whipping boys for generations — blamed for everything, probably even cockroaches.
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“I Am the Cockroach”
Wasn’t that a grunge song?
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Lloyd: I think you are correct. Those who have never experienced the difficulty of getting others to learn idealize their own experience and generalize it in their picture of how they came to be. They dare not suggest that they are different from anyone else. They dare not admit that they were just lucky. So all the failure society perceives in education, whether that is a true perception or not, has to be laid at the feet of the people who are teaching. They must be without imagination.
If they ever walk into the actual situation, they quickly learn the error of their thought and exit quickly. Then they forget. Administors do the same thing, forgetting quickly how difficult it is to implement a technique that seems foolproof. Teachers who only deal with the best students have similar attitudes. I have been told by fellow teachers that I would succeed with difficult students if I would only……you recall those speeches.
These are human tendencies it seems to me. Techno-geeks are just humans who have been given an elevated place in our society by virtue of their falling into the right time with their skills set. Had they fallen into the Stone Age, they would have probably failed at flint knapping.
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All of these “wonderful” motivated want-to-be teachers out of touch with the real world that quickly fails and exits the schools plagued with child poverty don’t forget.
Instead, too many justify their failure to achieve their fantasy as the greatest teacher that ever lived, and after their cowardly retreat, they blame an allegedly flawed system that has to be riddled with incompetent teachers, a system they continue to wrongly think they can still fix … but from the outside.
Many of these spoiled brats that have never faced any kind of failure can’t forget and have to justify that it wasn’t their fault they failed because they were raised to think they were perfect. They come from the artificial self-esteem generated “me first” generation. They have never faced failure. After all, they were taught that they were perfect and would never fail. And fake, fraudulent organizations like TFA that are built on a foundation of greed and arrogance reinforce that same fantasy mindset.
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“Why is it that techno geeks think that computers will lower the bottom line in education?”
I think a better question is “why do we believe that they think that? Is it because that’s what they claim?
If someone makes no sense
Examine your surmise
They could be simply dense
But might be telling lies
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SDP: Are you saying those who see the potential for techno solutions to education budgets are well aware they are feedin us a line?
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I’d say feeding us a bucket. . .
. . . of hog wash.
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