This is one of the best pieces I have read about the pernicious effects of “education reform” on the the Democratic Party. I have consistently argued that the Democrats triangulated so far during the Clinton administration that they blurred the distinct lines between the parties, then ended up supporting the Republican policies of testing, accountability, and choice, which previously they abhorred.
Jennifer Berkshire here fills in the details with her sharp eye and wit. So thoroughly have Democrats joined with Republicans in demonizing teachers and unions, that there is hardly a dime’s worth of difference between them on education issues. Things have gotten so bad that one Democrat espousing privatization recently co,pare the teachers unions to Alabama governor George Wallace, blocking children as they try to escape public schools to enter charter nirvana.
She writes:
“To begin to chronicle the origin of the Democrats’ war on their own—the public school teachers and their unions that provide the troops and the dough in each new campaign cycle to elect the Democrats—is to enter murky territory. The Clintons were early adopters; tough talk against Arkansas’s teachers, then among the poorest paid in the country, was a centerpiece of Bill’s second stint as Governor of Arkansas. As Hillary biographer Carl Bernstein recounts, the Arkansas State Teachers Association became the villain that cemented the couple’s hold on the Governor’s mansion—the center of their Dick Morris-inspired “permanent campaign.” The civil rights language in which the Democratic anti-union brigade cloaks itself today was then nowhere to be heard, however. And little wonder: Civil rights groups fiercely opposed the most controversial feature of the Clintons’ reform agenda—competency tests for teachers—on the grounds that Black teachers, many of whom had attended financially starved Black colleges, would disproportionately bear their brunt.
“Hillary made the cause her personal crusade in 1983, trotting out anecdote after anecdote about teachers she’d heard about who couldn’t add or read. The reform package passed, cementing Bill’s reputation as a new breed of Democratic governor, one who wasn’t afraid to take on entrenched interests in order to tackle tough problems. “Anytime you’re going to turn an institution upside down, there’s going to be a good guy and a bad guy,” recalls Clinton campaign manager Richard Herget. “The Clintons painted themselves as the good guys. The bad guys were the schoolteachers.”
“By the early 1980s, there was already a word for turning public institutions upside down: neoliberalism. Before it degenerated into a flabby insult, neoliberal referred to a self-identified brand of Democrat, ready to break with the tired of dogmas of the past. “The solutions of the thirties will not solve the problems of the eighties,” wrote Randall Rothenberg in his breathless 1984 paean to this new breed, whom he called simply The Neoliberals. His list of luminaries included the likes of Paul Tsongas, Bill Bradley, Gary Hart and Al Gore (for the record, Gore eschewed the neoliberal label in favor of something he liked to call “neopopulism”). In Rothenberg’s telling, the ascendancy of the neoliberals represented an economic repositioning of the Democratic Party that had begun during the economic crises of the 1970s. The era of big, affirmative government demanding action—desegregate those schools, clean up those polluted rivers, enforce those civil rights and labor laws—was over. It was time for fresh neo-ideas.
“Redistribution and government intervention were out; investment and public-private partnerships were the way to go. Neoliberal man (there are no women included in Rothenberg’s account) was also convinced that he had found the answer to the nation’s economic malaise: education, or as he was apt to put it, investment in human capital. “Education equals growth is a neoliberal equation,” writes Rothenberg.
“But this new cult of education wasn’t grounded in John Dewey’s vision of education-as-democracy, or in the recent civil-rights battles to extend the promise of public education to excluded African-American communities. No, these bold, results-oriented thinkers understood that in order to fuel economic growth, schools had to be retooled and aligned in concert with the needs of employers. The workers of the future would be prepared to compete nimbly in the knowledge-based post-industrial society of the present, For the stragglers still trapped in older, industrial-age models of enterprise and labor, re-training—another staple of the neoliberal vision—would set them on the path to greater prosperity….
“Today’s Democratic school reformers—a team heavy on billionaires, pols on the move, and paid advocates for whatever stripe of fix is being sold—depict their distaste for regulation, their zeal for free market solutions as au courant thinking. They rarely acknowledge their neoliberal antecedents. The self-described radical pragmatists at the Progressive Policy Institute, for instance, got their start as Bill Clinton’s policy shop, branded as the intellectual home for New Democrats. Before its current push for charter schools, PPI flogged welfare reform. In fact, David Osborne, the man so fond of likening teacher unions to arch segregationists in the south, served as Al Gore’s point person for “reinventing government.” Today the model for Osborne’s vision for reinventing public education is post-Katrina New Orleans—where 7,500 mostly Black school employees were fired en route to creating the nation’s first nearly all-charter-school-system, wiping out a pillar of the city’s Black middle class in the process.”
Read the article.
It brilliantly describes how Democrats attacked their own base, embraced Republican ideas, and merged their thinking with that of Republicans. A sure-fire recipe for disaster, since Republicans are so much better at being Republicans than Democrats are. You can’t win by destroying your base.

“Before it degenerated into a flabby insult, neoliberal referred to a self-identified brand of Democrat, ready to break with the tired of dogmas of the past.”
Um, no. Neoliberalism has always referred to the philosophy of the primacy of the market over all other values. There is no society; there is only the market. That is what neoliberalism is; it has never had anything to do with Democrats or Republicans. It’s just that both Democrats and Republicans have jointly embraced it for the past 30+ years.
Incidentally, for those who argued that Hillary would have been good for public education, how do you square that with the history presented here?
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I am a big fan of Jennifer Berkshire and she makes some excellent points in this piece, but there are a few things she writes that mystify me.
I absolutely agree with her (and you) that SOME Democrats have destroyed public education and I believe the one person who did most to undermine public education was Barack Obama and his appointment of Arne Duncan. I even concede that right now those people seem to control the DNC. But Berkshire could have written the same thing about the progressive movement.
“New York Governor Andrew Cuomo’s much hyped free tuition plan, for example, an undertaking so transparently craven that even the New York Times editorial board could see through it, will enable Cuomo to don a Sandersesque mantle of populist insurgency when he launches his inevitable race for the White House in 2020.” And we ALL know who sat right next to Cuomo praising him — Bernie Sanders. The SAME Bernie who endorsed the DFER guy in Virginia and could not bring himself to support the candidate who did support public education.
Let me repeat this: There WAS a pro-public education candidate in Virginia who won. Bernie refused to endorse him in a VERY close race where it looked like the Trump candidate could win. But Bernie had no problem sitting next to Andrew Cuomo and praising his good work on education. What does that say that Bernie Sanders finds Andrew Cuomo more acceptable to him than the pro-public education Virginia Democrat running against the pro-Trump Republican?
I believe that there are some Democrats AND some progressives who are either terrible or just have abandoned any concern with public education.
I just don’t see Berkshire acknowledging that anywhere in her article, which does raise many good points.
Starting out using Dan Loeb as an example is misleading. The man gives millions to right wing Republicans and PACs to make sure there is right wing Republican control of Congress. He supports ONLY the most co-opted of the Democrats like Bernie’s new friend Andrew Cuomo. That’s why Loeb made racist attacks on REAL Democrats who FOUGHT his education reform agenda! The fact that those Democrats exist in Albany should have told Berkshire something. Why would she focus on Loeb while ignoring that the near majority of Dems in Albany do not get his largesse. Why are all the Democrats who are fighting hard for public education invisible to Berkshire?
To answer your question: Hillary Clinton nominated Tim Kaine, a Democrat who was NOT a DFER candidate for Vice President. Her first decision was to search out among the supposedly 99.9999% of Democrats who are corrupt charter supporters and find the ONE Democrat in a million who actually supports public schools.
Isn’t that what you believe? That there are no Dems who aren’t pro-charter so Hillary would have had to move heaven and earth to find one to be her Vice President? Do you really think it is a coincidence that the entire Democrat party is corrupt pro-charter people and Hillary Clinton somehow managed to find the single Democrat among them who was pro-public school?
Here is why I wanted Hillary Clinton to have a CHANCE to get into office to support public schools.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?400357-1/hillary-clinton-town-hall-meeting-orangeburg-south-carolina&live&start=1715
Start at 36:10 and stop at 39:19.
And I am happy if Hillary permanently retires.
dienne77, all I want is a politician who makes the points that Hillary Clinton makes in those 3 minutes
I want a politician who cares enough about public education to KNOW what the issues are.
I hope that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren or ANY progressive start making those points that Hillary did to point out the lies of charter school supporters.
I don’t care whether a candidate identifies themselves as Dem or Progressive or Republican. I want one who supports public schools. And so far the ONLY candidates who do have been Democrats. I sure wish the progressive leaders could get on board and be as pro-public school as the OTHER Democrats that Berkshire doesn’t talk about who do support public schools.
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“dienne77, all I want is a politician who makes the points that Hillary Clinton makes in those 3 minutes”
So what they say is more important than what they do. Understood.
Personally, I believe that, unlike the stock market, when it comes to people, past performance is the best indicator of future performance. Hillary is well known for saying what her audience wants to hear. But her real base knew where she stood all along, which is why they continued to support her.
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What they say NOW is more important than what they did 35 years ago.
If you don’t believe that, then why are you on Diane Ravitch’s blog?
And here are actions that happened recently:
Hillary Clinton nominated the one in a million pro-public school Democrat Tim Kaine as VP.
While Bernie praised Andrew Cuomo as someone who cares so much about education and refused to endorse the Virginia Governor who is pro-public education.
Hilary Clinton is far from perfect. But on matters of public education, I would have trusted her more than Bernie Sanders. I supported Bernie despite his lack of interest in public schools and his support of “public charters”
dienne77, I asked you this before:
Please give me a list of politicians who strongly support public schools and fight against charters so I can support them. Will there be any progressives on this list? Because I KNOW there will be Democrats on the list.
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Hillary backed TFA and the Teacher Corps and NCLB. We know this is her history. As a NYS senator, she was always supportive of public education. She routinely voted to fund public schools and programs to help the poor like CHIP, which current Republicans are choosing to ignore.
Like most candidates, Bernie included, there is certain amount of compromise for them as well as for those that choose to vote for them. Neither Hillary nor Bernie has a spotless record on public education, but I think at this point Hillary has a better grasp of the issues in education as witnessed by her speech in South Carolina. Also, as we know, people evolve over time. What people support in 2006 may not be what they want in 2016. Lots of people are turning away from so-called reform when they see the damage it has caused. Support for charters is down in the polls as more people understand the bigger, more heinous implications of “reform.”
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The only example you can find of Hillary being supportive of public education is her choice of Tim Kaine for VP. As far as I know, the VP doesn’t have a big role in education, so I’m failing to understand why that’s such a big deal. It’s like saying she would have appointed a pro-public education candidate to the Department of the Interior. So what? The fact remains that her history in Arkansas is relevant (she has never repented of anything she did there), she is best friends with Eli Broad, she chose John Podesta to chair her campaign, she has supported TfA, she is endorsed by DFER and she is a fervent believer in the power of the market.
And enough with the whataboutism. I’ve never said that any other politician would be better than Hillary on education. That doesn’t mean that Hillary would have been good for education, which is the argument that you have consistently tried to make.
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Every time you say Hillary Clinton is “best friends” with Eli Broad I see the troll attacks that you so often parrot.
Read retired teacher above and maybe you will stop parroting the right wing propaganda.
If you can’t name a progressive politician STRONGER than Hillary Clinton, then what is your point? You give those progressives a pass – or maybe you’ll wait until those candidates actually run for something and destroy them all by repeating the right wing propaganda against them. After all, you could characterize Warren and Sanders as just as corrupt and no doubt you will hear such criticisms once they are running against right wing Republicans.
I am shocked that you can’t name a single progressive who stands up as strongly for public education as Tim Kaine. Think about what that says about you.
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Hillary is not perfect on education issues but she would have been 1 million percent better than Trump and DeVos.
Hillary went to public schools K-12.
She picked Tim Kaine, one Of the few Democrats who supports public schools and is well informed.
Hillary would have been a great president.
But there is one reason I’m glad she did not get elected.
The nutty extremist Republican Congress would have spent this entire year impeaching her.
They would not have approved any of her appointments.
They are anarchists.
We are living through a dangerous anti-democratic era, one veering towards fascism.
Complaining About Hillary is a waste of time.
Deal with the current reality: Trump is unfit for the Office and is in the process of destroying the government, one agency at a time. The EPA, the State Department, the Department of Education, the Department of Agriculture, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau right now.
Leave Hillary alone. She’s down and out.
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The Broads and the Clintons have indeed been long term very close friends. Why do you persist in denying that? Broad was instrumental in making Clinton’s law career successful.
Anyway, the argument at hand is about Hillary, not who would be better than her. I guess you’re saying that Kaine would have been, but then why did she select him for a position in which he would have had no say over education? Why not nominate him for Secretary of Education?
But Hillary’s track record in so many other areas – her violent foreign policy, her unrelenting support of Wall Street, her coziness with the oil industry, etc. – make her pretty much unpalatable to begin with. She’d have to be absolutely amazing for public education to remotely justify choosing her. Perhaps Bernie wasn’t so hot on public education (as pretty much no politician is), but his willingness to call out neoliberalism and call for solutions such as breaking up and regulating big banks and corporations made him infinitely preferable overall, even from an educational perspective.
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Nevertheless, unless the Democrats work together to defeat the right wing extremists from the Republicans, they stand a good chance at losing it all. They are already losing in all three branches of government. The attack from ALEC, the Freedom Causus, various right wing “think tanks,” and the Christian right is far more damaging that the petty grievances within the Democratic party. Democrats need to unite and present some inspiring leadership, and I don’t see Tom Perez filling that void.
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retired teacher,
Thank you for your comments — I am absolutely guilty of getting impatient when I hear progressives mouthing the right wing propaganda that made Hillary Clinton into the most evil candidate ever. I appreciate you writing thoughtful comments that lack my angry tone. (I will continue to work at that).
One thing that bothers me — I don’t have strong feelings between Tom Perez and Keith Ellison but I think this article by David Corn shows that he is a decent person.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/why-tom-perez-strong-competitor-against-keith-ellison-democratic-party/
As much as I like what Bernie Sanders stands for, I think that what American progressives need is a LBJ type who knew how to get things done – even if it means sometimes twisting arms or compromising. I think Hillary could have done so much for the progressive movement. I would love to see a progressive candidate who knows how to get things done — and who supports public education.
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“her violent foreign policy, her unrelenting support of Wall Street, her coziness with the oil industry, etc. – make her pretty much unpalatable to begin with.”
This reminds me of the people who believe that there is no difference between Al Franken, Donald Trump and Judge Moore because they are all sexual abusers of women. Well, except that Al Franken is worse, of course, because he “admitted” it.
dienne77, you have just described the rightest of right wing Republican politicians like the one who defeated Russ Feingold.
Is Hillary as progressive as Sanders? No. Was LBJ as progressive as someone running on the socialist platform? No.
Did LBJ have a “violent foreign policy” because he was an evil person who wanted to kill lots of non-Americans? Would America have been better off without any of his progressive legislation? What about all his Supreme Court Justice picks?
Just think, without BILL Clinton, we’d have no Justice Ginsburg, But maybe Ginsberg is just as much a tool of Wall Street as the guy who appointed her.
Some of us aren’t going to wait for perfect and we aren’t going to smear decent candidates with the right wing propaganda that tells us they are so purely evil that even Donald Trump is as good.
How’s that working for you? You think all those judgeships and supreme court appointments don’t matter?
Wrong. They undermine our very democracy. And unless you think a violent revolution is just what America needs (as Putin would agree), then the fact that having Trump and an anti-Democratic Supreme Court will do much to continue to suppress votes that could have led to a more progressive agenda via the ballot box.
Even the most co-opted Democrats – as far as I can see – believe in preserving the democratic institutions that allow democracy. I wish I could say the same for today’s Republicans.
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Sigh. I have documented Hillary’s violent and neoliberal history around here far too many times to count. One more rendition is obviously not going to change your mind. You can go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it isn’t so – it’s just “right-wing propaganda” (which is hilarious, because the right-wing also supports all such violence and neoliberalism, so that’s certainly not what they’re lambasting Hillary for, but I digress).
But hopefully Hillary is no longer the problem. Having been defeated by a half-term junior senator from Illinois and Donald Freaking Trump, I hope she has the decency to slink off into the night and not be heard from again.
The problem is the neoliberal paradigm the Clintons played a large role in unleashing on the world, coupled with the idea that because it’s good, “progressive” Democrats doing it, it’s all okay and normal and nothing to see here, folks, move along, There Is No Alternative. As long as we keep dismissing the Democrats’ record as “well, at least they’re better than Trump”, we’re going to keep getting more Trump. Until the Democrats have a vision that is something more than “we’re not Trump”, there is no point in voting for them because we’re just going to get more of the same subtle but toxic neoliberalism. At least Trump is so undeniably odious that good decent liberals can hardly avoid standing up to him.
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“I have documented Hillary’s violent and neoliberal history around here far too many times to count.”
No, what you have done is posted the same right wing propaganda to smear her. There have been many good critiques of Hillary Clinton’s too conservative stances. Just like there have been many critiques of Barack Obama’s — which have been WORSE, fyi.
But some progressives turned having conservative views on some issues into corruption. Into evil. But only when Hillary Clinton did it. If their beloved Bernie Sanders compromised, it was perfectly fine. If Bernie’s candidate for Virginia Governor did it, it was perfectly fine! If Elizabeth Warren did it, it was perfectly fine. But if Hillary Clinton did it, it was evil. Hillary is far from perfect just like LBJ was far from perfect.
LBJ did some very bad things. But that doesn’t give people license to lie about him and deny that he also did some very good and progressive things. Just like it doesn’t give you license to lie and pretend that Hillary Clinton is pure evil who has never done any progressive thing in her life. She did some very good things, and she might have done even more very good things. And I promise you should would NOT have done the very bad things that Trump has done that you want to deny because actually admitting that there is a difference between Trump and Hillary is still — shockingly — something that you still refuse to do.
You do the progressive movement no good and much harm when you repeating the right wing propaganda and refuse to acknowledge any nuances. Trump is worse than Hillary. Why do you keep refusing to acknowledge that?
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Everything I have posted is true and documented (much of it in her own words – I bet you still haven’t read HARD CHOICES, have you?). If that’s a “smear”, maybe she should have thought about what she was doing before she did it.
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dienne77,
I confess I haven’t read Hard Choices nor do I have any desire to do so.
Why don’t you tell me where Hillary Clinton explains that she took all those actions in service to the right wing billionaires in exchange for their largesse?
I didn’t realize that she admitted she was the corrupt tool of Wall Street as you keep saying she is. I just believed that Hillary Clinton made some mistakes AND did some good things (none of which you will acknowledge because they don’t fit your world view of her being a corrupt tool of Wall Street).
Bernie Sanders made some mistakes AND did some good things. So did Elizabeth Warren. So did LBJ. So did Barack Obama.
Maybe we can both agree that Hillary Clinton was just as terrible as LBJ. And her Presidency had the potential to achieve the same things — for good or for evil — that LBJ’s Presidency did.
Can we agree about that dienne77?
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Again, words in my mouth. Difficult to have a productive conversation with you this way.
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Incidentally, I find it fascinating that you are such a fierce proponent of Hillary, yet you have no interest in reading her in her own words. Can you explain that discrepancy? When I admire a person, I want to read everything they’ve ever written. Maybe that’s just me.
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dienne77,
I’m a fierce proponent of honest debate. I’m a fierce proponent of people not using nasty smears because their spidey sense tells them that one politician who does something that is somewhat conservative is doing it because they are ordered to by their right wing billionaire bosses and another politician who supports something that is somewhat conservative is just human.
There are certainly some co-opted Democrats and I agree with some of your criticisms because they ARE co-opted.
But your attacks on Hillary Clinton have morphed into Hillary derangement syndrome. I have never said she was perfect but you don’t hear that. Our disagreement is NOT whether or not Hillary Clinton is perfect. We both agree that she is not.
But we disagree about how evil she is. I gave you a chance to end this debate but agreeing with me that Hilary Clinton was like LBJ, with serious flaws and with good points.
The fact that you could not admit that speaks volumes. I don’t like dishonesty and your mischaracterization of Hillary Clinton is entirely dishonest. Starting with your repeated lie that I think she is perfect.
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^^retract that last statement because you are sure to jump on it in order NOT to address my question of why we can’t agree that both LBJ and Hillary have flaws and good points.
I was wrong to say: “Starting with your repeated lie that I think she is perfect.” You never said that I think Hillary is perfect.
I really don’t want to get distracted from our main discussion by my serious error, which I have now retracted, of saying that you believe I think Hillary is perfect.
Obviously you know and understand that I have acknowledged many times that Hillary Clinton is flawed.
Why can’t we agree that both Hillary and LBJ have both good and bad points? Are YOU willing to say anything good about Hillary Clinton? Are you willing to recognize the good things she has done?
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I’m not going to get into it about LBJ. He was before my time and I haven’t researched him a whole lot. Vietnam War, Civil Rights Act, difficult to balance.
But as far as Hillary, we can debate exactly how “evil” she is, but the fact remains that she is responsible for millions of deaths. Her vote for the Iraq war was bad enough, but I suppose she could be forgiven considering that “everyone was doing it” (and if everyone was jumping off bridges…..). But the problem is that she didn’t learn anything even though she sort of kind of admitted that vote was a “mistake”. She doubled down on Libya and Honduras. The havoc she’s responsible for in Haiti was devastating. She was attempting the same thing in Syria and even rattling Russia’s cage in the process. And let’s not even talk about that Saudi weapons deal that suddenly crystalized after the Saudis donated to the Clinton Foundation (but don’t worry, I know that the Saudis only donated because of their deep concern for women’s and LGBT issues). Those weapons are what are being used to blockade and destroy Yemen, so let’s all weep for the starving children we saw on PBS last week.
I’m sorry, I don’t care how good she would have been on public education (although I still firmly believe nowhere near as good as you think), but with hands that bloody, I could never vote for her. And she doesn’t have anything close to the Civil Rights Act to balance.
Incidentally, go ahead and call that “right wing propaganda”, like the right-wing hasn’t done exactly the same thing and celebrated it. The Clintons and the Bushes are joined in their neocon love of a good bloodbath.
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I say Go Bernie. And I hope in 2018 I will be able to say it without putting anyone down.
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dienne77,
“hands that bloody…”
You should hear yourself sometime. I guess Hillary Clinton was the second coming of Pol Pot.
Seriously, it is truly astonishing to hear you scapegoating Hillary for EVERYTHING. I mean, ya know, there WAS actually a US President who was in charge of running the country. Did she practice mind control with her evil power?
I did not agree with all of Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy choices. But as usual, you can’t just criticize. You have to characterize choices — when there are no good choices — as having bloody hands.
One question:
Was Bill Clinton wrong to intervene in Bosnia?
Should the US have stayed out of WW II and let Hitler kill as many Jews as he wanted?
Was Hillary Clinton so money hungry and greedy for donations to the Clinton Foundation that she was DELIGHTED to sell US foreign policy interests to big donors and use her “bloody hands” to make sure US policy was helping the foundation’s donors to murder millions of people?
You think Hillary Clinton put the interests of the FOUNDATION above the interest of the US?
How completely evil do you think Hillary Clinton is that you think a donation to a foundation is all that she needed to do the bidding of foreign government to help them murder more people?
Never mind. I know the answer to that. Clinton derangement syndrome. You hold her to a standard that no politician has ever been held to and act as if there IS some “right’ foreign policy decision that won’t lead to millions of deaths. There is not. Every decision — even when it is to do nothing, causes deaths. What a smug attitude you have to accuse someone of having “bloody hands”. We ALL have bloody hands, including you. No matter what foreign policy you want the US to have, I can show you who dies from it. Because someone always does.
Why do YOU think Obama went from being a dove to a (relative) hawk? Evil mind control by Hillary Clinton? Or maybe just a realization that every single foreign policy decision is the wrong one. There ARE no good decisions.
Look at what happened under Carter to learn a little history since you feign no knowledge of LBJ.
That you could take a woman who is flawed but has tried to do good things and reduce her to “hands that bloody” truly disgusts me.
I am done with this conversation But when you come here next time to smear another Democrat like Bill de Blasio because your “spidey sense” tells you how corrupt he is, I will call out your over the top hatred once again. I wonder who it will be next time. Liz Warren? After all, if you believe Bill de Blasio is controlled by the right wing, why shouldn’t Warren be just as corrupt? The right wing propaganda machine hasn’t even begun their work to get people like you to repeat all their talking points. I can’t wait to see who you will smear as the next bloody handed evil Democrat.
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I degenerated into a flabby insult over the Thanksgiving weekend.
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Nicely played, FLERP, nicely played. Election 2016’s over, folks. The question now is who can replace the libertarian-neo”liberal” dynasty in years to come.
Berkshire’s article is well researched and entirely factual, from my humble perspective. This is a VIP, a very important post.
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And this is exactly why I had to hold my nose to vote for HRC (the lesser of 2 evils). I don’t live in Arkansas, but I can remember her and Bill making a circus out of the teachers union to get Bill elected. It was dirty politics then and it’s still dirty politics. Both Bill and Hillary ushered in the assault on public education (they opened Pandora’s Box!). How could anyone with children in public schools or involved in education feel good about placing a vote for HRC last November 2016? She would have been no better a friend of public education than DJT. Just saying…….
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Oh, and let’s not forget that one of the wealthiest families in America lives in Arkansas. The Walton’s certainly had their hand in the dirty deal to get Bill elected as Gov and POTUS.
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“She would have been no better a friend of public education than DJT. Just saying…….”
This is so ignorant.
Apparently Hillary Clinton was able to find the one Democrat in a million who wasn’t a corrupt tool of the Walton Family and supported public education to be her Vice President,
Boy, it must have taken a whole lot of effort to find a pro-public education Democrat to be her VP when all the progressives are so certain that none existed. Hillary should get praise for managing to find the one in a million who did.
Here is my question:
If Hillary Clinton had nominated the pro-charter school Democrat Elizabeth Warren or the “I support public charters” progressive like Bernie Sanders to be her Vice President, would you have attacked her even more for showing her true colors and nominating pro-charter politicians instead of finding a pro-public education politician like Tim Kaine?
The irony is that had she nominated Warren or Sanders, Hillary would have shown that the was embracing their pro-charter leanings. Hillary didn’t do that — she nominated the pro-public school Democrat.
I think what you should have said is that Bernie would have been no better a friend of public education than DJT.
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In Massachusetts last year, Both Sanders and Warren opposed Question 2 which would have allowed the unfettered the expansion of charter schools in the state. It took lots of education to get them to do so, but it was successful.
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Yes, MASS made progress in getting Warren and Sanders to come out against Q 2.
I hope they remember
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Christine Langhoff,
I know they both opposed them, but if you are in Massachusetts you probably know how they framed their opposition in very limited terms.
I think you will agree that Elizabeth Warren supports charter schools quite strongly and has never mentioned much of the criticism about their refusal to educate all students as Hillary Clinton so clearly explains in her 3 minutes.
Does Warren oppose ANY expansion, or just “unfettered expansion”? I would have far more faith if she actually could explain it other than “well it hurts public schools economically so we can’t expand so much.”
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Part of the problem with Warren – and many members of Congress – is that TFA provides for and pays the salary for their staff on education issues. We got what we could from Warren and Sanders, and it helped.
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Christine,
Exactly right. TFA provides “free” interns to every member of Congress on the education committee of either house
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I voted for HRC hoping that she would be impeached and Kaine would take over. That was my ONLY hope when I marked my “X” for HRC. She has always been involved in dirty politics….she just cleans up better than most and is good at public speaking. She never was and never will be a friend to public education.
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“Many charters schools are producing extraordinary results for our students and we should celebrate the hard work of those teachers and spread what’s working to other schools….”
Anyone who starts her “opposition” to Question 1 with the DFER propaganda lines that are a bunch of baloney has no understanding of the issues surrounding charter schools.
Elizabeth Warren is too smart to be parroting the DFER lines about the “good” charters.
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“She has always been involved in dirty politics….she just cleans up better than most and is good at public speaking.”
Yes, Hillary Clinton’s quiet fight for the Child Heath Plus insurance was simply dirty and useless. Probably she did it because someone rich paid her to care about kids.
“At its creation in 1997, SCHIP was the largest expansion of taxpayer-funded health insurance coverage for children in the U.S. since Lyndon Johnson established Medicaid in 1965.”
We’d be so much better off if Hillary was never around to fight for that program. And now that the Republicans have killed it, you’ll be able to see for itself how it was just another program to benefit Wall Street like all of Hillary’s actions.
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Wow, Lisa!
You’ve got me wondering how many people voted for Trump hoping he would be impeached so Pence could take over. Explains the evangelical vote…
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Christine Langhoff……I wouldn’t want Pence for POTUS either, but I think that’s exactly what we have right now. DJT is too stupid and egotistical to understand how a government is run. Pence is Oz behind the curtain and backed by Koch Bros….and company. I certainly don’t want an impeachment of DJT. At least with DJT you know what’s going on.
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Lisa M,
You are saying two entirely contradictory things:
“Pence is Oz behind the curtain and backed by Koch Bros”
“At least with DJT you know what’s going on.”
There is something very sad about Democrats who say “we need to overlook the high crimes and misdemeanors of Trump and his family and friends in order to keep Pence from having power”.
I disagree. When Pence is in power, his actions are debated and discussed on their own terms. You just wrote that he is getting his way anyway, while America is distracted by Trump’s treason and corruption.
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Christine Langhoff and Diane,
I wonder if Sanders and Warren accept these free staff members from TFA because they think they can sway them into our camp and send them back to TFA to “infect” TFA with the right kind of germs.
On the other hand, maybe both politicians accept the freebies because they are in TFA’s camp. That would be disgusting but also a mystery to me. If so, I hesitate to throw Sanders out with the bathwater because of an ambivalence on one issue.
What do you think? Which is it?
In either siuation, both parties are rotten!!!!
I quote from a colleague with whom I keep in touch with from time to time via personal e-mail:
“But with the Democrats, I feel as though the lying, cheating, stealing, and scheming would have been done a little bit more slowly, more quietly, with far more civility, and with far more spin and deception. Over the years, the Democrats have been masters at not letting all the deception hang out, while the GOP has been very open and honest about how disgusting they really are.
Overt or covert; pick your poison. See the link below from actress Susan Sarandon, who said, ‘I thought Hillary was very dangerous. If she’d won, we’d be at war!’ ”
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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NF,
Almost every member of the Senate and House education committees has a key staff person who was placed by TFA. I say “almost” because I haven’t checked every single member’s staff.
This is the result of TFA’s cunning.
The cost is paid by a California billionaire named Arthur Rock.
The Senators and HOuse members don’t know that their staff members have a TFA allegiance or that TFA has interests different from the public interest.
Originally, they were placed there to protect TFA’s $18 Million Annual earmark.
Now they are there to protect the TFA perspective (charters good, TFA good).
A brilliant strategy.
Several years ago, I met with Senator TOm Hawkins of Iowa, then leader of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. Education was a small part of his committee’s work. I told him that NCLB was a disaster. I explained the damage it was doing. He responded that the disabilities community “loves” NCLB. His education staffer was there, ex-TFA, vigorously supporting NCLB.
It is important to remember that all these elected officials are on more than one committee, and education is not their highest priority. If they are on the Senate Committee, there are multiple issues, so it is easy to rely on your staffer, who is 26-27 years old.
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The husband of a close friend was a staffer for Ted Kennedy back in the 80’s. I was amazed to find how much our elected officials may rely on young staffers to inform them about issues they vote on. TFA has been able to enjoy many happy returns from its perceived committment to education.
I think we did have some succees in opening Warren’s eyes to the involvement of hedge funders in the charter and privatization movement. Her position that hedge funders = bad for a democracy is one of her unshakeable tenets.
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Here is Elizabeth Warren’s statement “opposing” Prop 2:
(From the Boston Globe)
“But in a statement put out on Monday, Warren said that she will be voting no on Question 2. “Many charters schools are producing extraordinary results for our students and we should celebrate the hard work of those teachers and spread what’s working to other schools,’’ she said. But, after hearing from both sides, “I am very concerned about what this specific proposal means for hundreds of thousands of children across our Commonwealth, especially those living in districts with tight budgets where every dime matters. Education is about creating opportunity for all our children, not about leaving many behind.”
Education is about creating opportunity! Why, that’s just what the charter folks say!
Compare this to the 3 minutes of Hillary Clinton talking above to see the difference between a politician like Warren who genuinely believes in charter schools and choice and one like Hillary Clinton who UNDERSTANDS the real problems of what Elizabeth Warren says is just charters “creating opportunity!”
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Both “liberal” ed reformers and “conservative” ed reformers are promoting Indiana as the model state for ed reform.
Indiana’s ed reforms were literally drafted by ALEC.
Both political parties are pushing the exact same set of state laws. Identical. And written by ALEC.
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What Democratic politicians are promoting Indiana as the model state for ed reform?
(I want to know so I can donate to their opponents).
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What is left out of Jennifer’s excellent piece is the connections between Al Shanker of the AFT/UFT and the Clintons and their ed policies. Seems astounding from current perspective but it helps us understand a lot; I explore these points on my blog: https://ednotesonline.blogspot.com/2017/11/how-education-reform-ate-democratic.html and also on a review I co-wrote in New Politics of the Kahlenberg Shanker bio: http://newpol.org/print/content/albert-shanker-ruthless-neo-con
The Ed deform movement had a handmaiden – and it was our own unions.
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What an indispensable point! Excellent!
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The newest marketing gimmick is renaming charter schools “innovation schools”
This is designed to trick the public, deliberately:
“Because charters have become so controversial, we can call these new schools something else,” said Osborne. “Call them innovation, renaissance or partnership schools. But use the same principles as charters.”
These people are much better marketers than they are scientists.
http://getschooled.blog.myajc.com/2017/11/24/opinion-whether-we-call-them-charters-or-not-all-schools-need-greater-freedom-flexibility/
They don’t have any other ideas other than “privatize” unless you count selling cheap garbage ed tech to public schools as an “idea”.
Ed reform is just a fancy, well-funded renaming of the 1990’s privatization movement.
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I read a lot of ed reformers so I’ll give you my prediction for the end game here.
They go to “backpack vouchers”, allocate some low number per child (5K has already been floated in Michigan) and then families finance the rest with K-12 student loans.
It’s a HUGE new market for lenders. You watch. There will be some low voucher amount and they’ll shift the rest of the cost to families.
i feel bad for young people – they should get out of this country if they can.
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Sadly, I think you are absolutely correct. Their end game is to destroy public educations and commodify everything. The greed of Vulture Capitalists knows no bounds. Destroying public education, like ending Net Neutrality, will increase costs to the working masses, with the added bonus of accelerating the deliberate dumbing-down of America.
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Perfectly put!!!!
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“Over the River and Through the Woods, To Grandmother’s House We Go …”
If course correction, via the rear-view mirror (historical antecedents)-
“Dewey proclaimed”, the “Founders meant”, was effective, wouldn’t we
be “there” by now?
If high-pitched whines, about the evil republicans, “worked”, would we not be
“coaxing” HRC, to do the “right” thing?
When timeworn arguments no longer work, isn’t it time to stop using them?
The “Myths” don’t change the balance of economic, political, or social power.
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A must read. This one is truly insightful.
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While we continue to argue about Hillary Clinton, the Senate Republicans are moving toward a possible floor vote on tax reform this week.
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We aren’t arguing about Hilary Clinton. We are arguing about what the Democratic Party stands for.
According to some Hillary and DNC haters, there is no point in caring about this because there is no difference. This is what the Democrats secretly want. They are tools of the oligarchs and it is only Bernie Sanders and his handpicked DFER candidates who can save us.
Because the entire DNC is corrupt as is the entire Democratic Party. Except for a few Bernie endorsed candidates who love charters who are the only “good” people out there.
Sorry if I sound cynical but isn’t that the point of this attacks? To believe that there is no point caring about this since the Dems are JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICANS??
Aren’t the Democrats embracing this tax plan? And if they aren’t, I wonder if some of the Dem haters can tell us which of the right wing billionaires who give all the democrats — especially Hillary Clinton — their marching orders are telling those corrupt Dems not to support the Republican tax plan.
After all, unless their right wing billionaires who control the DNC are telling them to vote against the tax plan, what does our opinion matter? They are all corrupt, right?
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There is certainly a big difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.
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You are preaching to the choir. I suspect there are some people on here who strongly disagree.
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Call up Schumer and Gillibrand demand that no bill or appointment be given consent to proceed zero , Nada . From hurricane relief, to millatary appropriations, to the debt extension.
Of course that will never happen because the are in bed with the same Wall Street money and only want to put on a good dog and pony show.
After that call the Senators who are on the fence and leave a message .Here is the big list of GOP waverers: John McCain (R-AZ) – 202-224-2235, Jeff Flake (R-AZ) – 202-224-4521, Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) – 202-224-6665, Susan Collins (R-ME) – 202-224-2523, Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) – 202-224-6472, Rob Portman (R-OH) – 202-224-3353, Dean Heller (NV) – 202-224-6244, Lamar Alexander (R-TN) – 202-224-4944, Bob Corker (TN) – 202-224-3344, Jerry Moran (R-KS) (202) 224-6521
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See FLERP! Joel can tell you that Gillibrand is in bed with Wall Street money. It’s all a dog and pony show because they really secretly want the tax reform to go through.
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Well, as a strictly factual matter, both Gillibrand and Schumer are “in bed with Wall Street money,” if “in bed with” means “regularly have their campaigns financed by the securities industry.” Their biggest donors are employees of big Wall Street banks and white shoe law firms. It doesn’t follow, though, that this means they won’t oppose the Senate’s tax bill.
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Has anyone looked deeper to determine who is blending of the two parties?
I think if we dig, we will find that ALEC, the Waltons, two of the Koch brothers, et al. have been funding the elections of Democrats “in name only” for decades as they infiltrate the Democratic Party to also take it over so these oligarchs control both parties eventually.
Recently we had an election in the Bay Area for the state senate in California in an area where Republicans don’t even bother to campaign because they don’t stand a chance. Instead, Democrats “in name only” who were funded by Alt-Right billionaires and corporations ran against traditional Democrats and outspend those traditional Democrats by wide margins and beating them as the Democrats “in name only” slowly take over the Democratic party for their masters.
It’s easy to discover who these “fake” Democrats are because they have a history of attacking labor unions … if they have a history because so many of them are new to politics and it is easy for them to hide who they really are behind a wall of lies and misinformation.
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Lloyd,
I’m curious as to how you perceive California Gov. Brown?
There are many things to despise about him yet he is very good on some other issues.
The question is whether Brown is entirely corrupt or just doesn’t care enough about some issues to dig deep into them beyond the easy propaganda from the right wing.
I find that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren’s pro-charter positions on many issues are shocking. They are very close to the pro-charter positions of DFER, although they sometimes slightly differ (but not too much). But I believe their position is out of ignorance and not because they are intentionally embracing the right wing agenda.
So, is Brown like Warren and Sanders, or is his embrace of some right wing policies simply pure corruption? Or something else?
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Gov Brown is great on the environment and many other issues but awful when it comes to charters and for profits.
He has vetoed every effort to establish accountability for charters and vetoed a law to ban for profit charters.
The Ca Charter School Assn gets whatever it wants from him
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Diane,
I know and it’s depressing.
I’m just trying to get a handle on whether Californians like Lloyd believe that Brown is pro-charter because he is completely corrupt or just inexcusably ignorant.
Is Brown one of those Dems who have been funded by ALEC et al that Lloyd mentioned?
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I don’t know why Brown supports corporate charter schools like he does, but I don’t think ALEC owns him. If ALEC did own him, he’d be a climate change denier like The Virus Vulcher in the White House.
Is it because Brown owns two private sector charter schools in Oakland?
But Brown is in his last term and “2018 candidates for governor weigh in on charter schools in California”
At this point, it doesn’t matter what Brown has done or thinks because he will soon be history. Instead, we should be focusing on the candidates that will be competing with each other to succeed Jerry Brown and hopefully at least one or more of those candidates will be a supporter of PubEd and an enemy of Corporate Charter Schools.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article140235668.html
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You are right. Two of the leading candidates are funded by the charter lobby: Gavin Newsom and Villaraigosa, former LA mayor.
For inexplicable reasons, CTA endorsed Newsom, even though he doesn’t know or won’t say if he is pro-teacher or anti-teacher, pro-charter or anti-charter
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Delaine Eastin looks promising and she’s running.
Top jobs: California superintendent of public instruction from 1995 to 2003. She served in the Assembly from 1986 to 1994, including as chairwoman of the Education Committee.
Biggest splash: The only woman elected as California superintendent of public instruction.
Eastin began her career in politics as councilwoman in Union City on the east side of the San Francisco Bay and later served two terms as the state’s superintendent of public instruction. During her tenure, she was a vocal advocate for the state’s class-size reduction law.
Eastin has been out of elected office since 2003. She is chairwoman of the board of Educate Our State, a nonprofit organization that advocates for California schools. She is also chairwoman of ClosetheGapCA, a political group that focused on electing more women to the Legislature in 2016.
Eastin said she believes that public school funding is no longer a top priority among politicians in Sacramento. She criticized them for failing to provide additional money for preschool and failing to adopt full-day kindergarten.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-governor-list-2018-htmlstory.html
But Gavin Newsom will probably be the front-runner unless the Democratic candidates tear themselves apart and the GOP runs someone no one knows who looks like they arrived from President Kennedy’s mythological Camelot.
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Brown is not ALEC. He started two charters in Oakland and doesn’t see the damage they do
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To be honest, I’m confused about Brown Jr. It was Brown and his administration that challenged the Vergara decision and beat it. But Jr. has also vetoed bills that passed in the state legislature that would have held the corporate charters in the state more accountable by forcing them to be transparent like the public schools.
Brown Jr. is a mixed bag. His father, known as Pat Brown, was also governor of California 1959-1967.
Jr. and the state legislature stood up to the Kremlin’s Agent Orange regarding the environment and global warming.
Jr. and the state legislature defied that Malignant Tumor in the White House regarding his immigration reforms.
It was Jr. and his administration and the state legislature that passed legislation to help make up what was lost from CalSTRS during the 2007-08 global financial crises caused by the GOP and Bush #2. I don’t know of any other state that has even attempted to properly fund their teacher retirement programs. Some claim it didn’t go far enough but something is better than nothing or cuts to teacher retirement plans like we see happening in so many other states.
I know that some people crucify President Bill Clinton (BC) for signing the bills that have been blamed for the crash, but I recall that both Houses of Congress passed that legislation with enough votes to overcome a presidential veto and BC probably saw a veteo as a waste of time. Later, BC did say he regretted signing it and apologized.
The GOP and that cancerous Turkey Turd Flu Virus in the White House never apologizes or accepts the blame for anything. If something goes wrong with an idea that Trash Man pushed, he always blames someone else or attacks Hillary (or someone else) to distract the people from his latest ignorant blunder.
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Lloyd,
You make excellent points.
I think the bottom line is that the Democrats tend to be complicated and not fall in lockstep with a specific agenda.
I get very frustrated with many Democrats who have certain policies I strongly disagree with. But I can also differentiate between a Gov. Brown and a Gov. Cuomo.
I can also distinguish between a Hillary Clinton and a Donald Trump.
And LBJ and Richard Nixon.
There is a difference between making mistakes because you don’t grasp the entirety of the issue and choosing a policy because it pleases the people who are rich and powerful.
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There is another reason why Brown probably does not belong to a billionaire oligarch or ALEC. Unless ALEC has some evidence they can blackmail him with, I don’t think anyone owns or controls Brown, and I don’t think he worships money all that much.
In the last election, he didn’t bother to campaign and the GOP didn’t bother to run against him.
“Jerry Brown Coasts To Re-Election With Nonexistent Campaign”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/04/california-governor-election-results_n_5819772.html
Jerry Brown is an American politician with a net worth of $4 million. Jerry began his career as a law clerk before taking the state bar exam and joining a law firm. He also ran for Los Angeles Community College Board of Trustees and placed first in a field of 124. He was also the 34th governor of California from 1975 to 1983.
Before and after his terms as governor, he served in numerous party, state and local positions. He has served as Secretary of State of California, Mayor of Oakland and in the office as Attorney General among other political positions. As California Secretary of State, he won cases for election law violations and helped to pass the California Fair Political Practices Act.
Over his career as a politician, he sought Democratic positions for president but was unsuccessful. The San Francisco, California native is the current governor of California. He has been the 39th governor since 2011.
https://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/politician/democrat/jerry-brown-net-worth/
Why he offers support for the corporate charter school movement could be because someone like Bill Gates or David Coleman got to him years ago and programmed him to believe their crap and lies.
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Yes, we are discussing politics not just H.C. A useful analogy might be seen in the British Labour Party. Led by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, “New” Labour played a role similar to that of the Clinton “centrists” within the Democratic Party. They bought into an aggressive foreign policy–esp. in the Middle East and toward Russia–and they pursued policies of “austerity” domestically (e.g., ending “welfare as we know it”). Among other places where “austerity” was pursued were universities, which faced large cut-backs affecting both faculty and students. Many of Labour’s traditional working-class constituency felt, rightly I’d say, abandoned by the party.
I don’t want to develop any elaborate history of UK politics, but just to suggest a certain analogy to US politics. There, Corbyn has been playing a role designed to align the party with the needs of that abandoned constituency–even though most of the party’s elected representatives oppose him. I’d argue that a similar contest is underway among those who identify with Democrats here. Education is one–a very important one–arena in which that contest is being played out. And the record of many DINO’s is lousy.
Seems to me, however, that whatever their history, most Democrats are coming to understand so-called “reform” as versions of Republican privatization–turn everything into an opportunity for profit. It would not surprise me to see more and more Demos abandoning the reformistas and resuscitating ideas about local control of community-focused schools.
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“t would not surprise me to see more and more Demos abandoning the reformistas and resuscitating ideas about local control of community-focused schools.”
That is certainly what Hillary Clinton was doing. It is clear from her comments in front of a DFER crowd in South Carolina that was how she viewed public education.
But she is the past. What I WANT to see is someone other than Tim Kaine and Bill de Blasio support public education. And instead what I get is the same mealy mouth “charters are good” platitudes from the progressive leadership like Sanders and Warren.
Public education is such a winning issue and if the progressives were fighting hard for it, it would do a great deal to change the debate. But they are silent.
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British politics are very closely aligned with American politics, as if by design. I think of the two together. And I remember from where Pearson comes. As if by design.
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“The Ouroboros Party”
The Ouroboros creature
Has nothing on the Dems
Whose most impressive feature
Is eating family gems
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I just had to look up “Ouroboros”, Poet. Thanks, as always, for entertaining as well as educating. It’s nice to learn something new at the end of a long day. If only the Democratic Party could keep doing the same. There’s sure been a PILE of very long days since November 8, 2016!
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#metoo!
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The translation from the ancient Greek — “Our burros” — is apt, given the Democratic mascot.
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“Something the Right and Left agree on”
The 1 percent agree
To privatize the lot
The party’s moot, you see
Bipartisan is plot
The school “reform” is way
To reach a private goal
To make the public pay
The 1 percent a toll
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First I am with dienne77. The term Neo Liberal has its derivation in Latin America in the 60s and 70s . Nothing at all to do with liberalism unless your definition is provided by Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman
“After the coup and the death of Allende, Pinochet and his Chicago Boys did their best to dismantle Chile’s public sphere, auctioning off state enterprises and slashing financial and trade regulations. Enormous wealth was created in this period but at a terrible cost: by the early 80s, Pinochet’s Friedman-prescribed policies had caused rapid de-industrialisation, a tenfold increase in unemployment and an explosion of distinctly unstable shantytowns. They also led to a crisis of corruption and debt so severe that, in 1982, Pinochet was forced to fire his key Chicago Boy advisers and nationalize several of the large deregulated financial institutions. ” Naomi Klein
So the term being described as some sort of new path for liberals is revolting. Unless by Liberals you mean those Democrats who sold their souls for cash. That was a good portion of the party including Clinton . Who should be relegated to the dust bin of history never to be heard from again . That is not Liberalism that is corruption. Whether we are talking about FREE TRADE which was never free . It was just a matter of which winners and which loser were picked . Nothing free about protecting “Intellectual property rights “, about as protectionist as you can be. Or talking about education reform in collaboration with the Walton’s, Broad ,et al .
Notice how relatively quite Democrats are on the Tax reform bill .Anyone see Chuck leading a demonstration on Wall Street during the break. Not wanting to insult their corporate sponsors . Hoping to see the Republicans fail with out sticking their necks out.
Even Indivisible too busy somehow equating the actions of Franken with the actions of Moore to call for demonstrations in the heart of the beast on Wall and Broad. Heaven forbid the Democratic staffers go there .
So the dog and pony show has gone on so long that what ever damage that Trump and the Republicans will do, will last for decades . I didn’t vote Green in the last election but I will vote Mickey Mouse in the next unless my representatives vow to reverse everything that Republicans have done right up to flooding the court . I have no delusion that they will. “They are content to go down with the ship as long as they maintain their first class cabin. ” As Sanders said .
Speaking of Sanders how did his name come up in this discussion I thought we had agreed to a moratorium on discussions about the 2016 campaign . Were Sanders and Warren somehow leading the DFER charge. I suspect their populist stands do not make them a favorite on Wall Street, at the Philanthropy Roundtable or the Business Roundtable.
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DFER needs Democrats, and especially progressive Dems, to give them progressive credibility. They like to present themselves as wanting to help poor children.
It would be nice if Warren and Sanders — the two most prominent leaders of the progressive movement — could call out DFER and support the forces fighting against “reform”?
What would have happened if the NAACP moratorium on charter schools got some progressive leaders to support it?
Which billionaire ed reformers who control Sanders and Warren made sure that both of them remained absolutely silent when the NAACP called for a moratorium on charter schools? (Sorry, I was channeling dienne77 who always assumes that there is a corrupt and nefarious reason when a politician doesn’t support a progressive cause when they have had every opportunity to do so.)
By the way:
“https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bernie-sanders-hits-trail-again-time-fight-gop-tax-bill-n824311
“Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., created the position of “Outreach Chairman” for Sanders this year. But the trips also allow Sanders to stay in touch with his loyal national base and nurture connections across the country while working to defend policies he cares about.”
I’d rather have Schumer paying for Bernie to go around to rally Americans to oppose this tax bill than to have Schumer doing it himself.
Of course, since you are so certain that Schumer secretly supports the tax bill, I’m sure he’ll pull money from Sanders and work hard to undermine the message he is giving. Right?
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NYC public school parent
Well as usual your analysis of the situation is lacking . We do know how to make people pay taxes usually it starts off with severe penalties escalating all the way up to jail time.Removing patent protection would be a rather quick way to get Apple and Merck to pay up. So there are ways to enforce, reform the tax code that do not include a tax holiday or lowering the rates. Of course that would imply your goal is collecting those taxes. That is not Wall Street Chucks goal.
Now it is almost comical how you set up a straw-man and insist that knocking it down would be a sign of loyalty . In this case it is supporting the NAACP position on charters . The ironic part is that Sanders/Warrens opposition to Mass.Question 2 is just what you are asking them to do and the time frame coincides. Probably their opposition is at least partially a response to the 2016 NAACP position . Exactly what we would want our representatives to do, respond to constituents ..
“Wall Street must not be allowed to hijack public education in Massachusetts. We must defeat Massachusetts Ballot Question 2. This is Wall Street’s attempt to line their own pockets while draining resources away from public education at the expense of low-income, special education students and English language learners,” Sanders said.
That is a consistent position that can be applied across the spectrum in the debate about the neo-liberal assault on Public Goods, from infrastructure to education and the good that the rest of the civilized world has ,access to healthcare
But that is not what the unmentionable one would do. She would say what ever you wanted to hear, but as Thomas Donohue of the National Chamber of Commerce said; “Don’t worry what she says, in the end she will be with us” .
Neo Liberalism is not an economic philosophy. It is as even the murderous Pinochet found out in the earliest experiment of the philosophy, it is corruption and thievery.
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Joel, do you seriously believe Chuck Schumer is going to vote for a tax bill that eliminates state and local deductions and threatens the NY housing market?
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Even Republicans in NY and NJ claim they oppose the tax bill because of loss of state and local tax deductions. But I don’t believe them. Watch how they vote.
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Agree. I think it’s safe to say Schumer is a lock for a no vote, though.
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FLERP!
No that is not what I am saying at all . What I am saying is that before the election Chucky was for corporate tax reform .For reaching a deal with Republicans that would bring the money home in return for reduced rates. That is a far cry from what he should be doing which is closing the loop holes that allow them to skirt the code in the first place . It is not as if with 20Trillion in debt we do not need the money.
No Schumer will not vote for the bill. He will be hoping the bill fails . But he will not expend the effort that would be required to sink it . That would make his corporate masters very unhappy.
This is a corporate led assault by the Business RoundTable(Translation Wall Street or the CEOs of those firms ) their commercials have been running for months . Is anybody except the usual few coming out and calling them out . You could raise the top marginal rate up to 95% and the oligarchy would not care. Their wealth is derived in Capital Gains taxed at 20% . So a cut in the corporate rate that will bring their effective rate down from the already low 12-18 to 5-10 % is like a direct pass through.
Schumer will assure Jamie Diamond the new head of the RoundTable
That in the end he is on their side by doing little to stop it.
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I believe Joel’s point is that Schumer might vote no but he is secretly conspiring with his Wall Street bosses to make sure it passes.
After all, didn’t that link to the article that was typical of the kind of articles that we saw non-stop before the election? Look how even Liz Warren is probably secretly on board.
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^^I just read Joel’s reply above and that’s exactly what I thought.
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NYC public school parent
No again
Observing an assault is not the same as either participating in it or intervening to stop it . Intervening entails some personal risk .
The part of this story on Neo liberalism and the Democratic party ,that has not been told here was the part about the anti war movement, some conservative unions and Nixon . Which led to a further split with Carter and eventually the “Reagan Democrats” including out right support from the Teamsters in response to deregulating the trucking industry .
But go read Thomas Frank he goes into that history and it was not an awe shucks moment . I watched it happening . Including the creation of the above mentioned Business Roundtable created to crush labor.
But by the time Billy Bob came on scene the party had sold its soul to Wall Street (CORPORATE ) money and just paid lip service labor . In exchange for the troops . Because they could not compete with dollars.
This tax bill will RAPE every segment of the working class . The bottom 90% . When the deficits pile up and Chaney was right deficits don’t matter. The Republicans will slash and burn everything from Education to Medicare to Social Security.
Will any Democrat call for the elimination of the gains rate and the return to 63% tax rates of the sixties .Or the 40% corporate rate when wages and the middle class were growing .
No again
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Jimmy Carter ran away from every progressive economic idea. HE was the one who started the move toward embracing the entire right wing corporate agenda. Who owned Jimmy Carter, Joel?
You focus your extreme hatred on the Clintons and give a pass to Jimmy Carter who came BEFORE them and made it all so palatable.
Which tells me what a hypocrite you are. When you start talking about how corrupt and money-hungry Jimmy Carter was with the same certainty that you use to smear Hillary Clinton, I will believe you aren’t a hypocrite.
By the way, the reason I voted for Ted Kennedy was because of how corrupt and awful I was certain Jimmy Carter was. The fact that the Clintons just followed Carter’s lead might tell you something. How about blaming the guy who did it first?
You are a hypocrite.
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The article clear echoes the sentiment from Thomas Frank’s “Listen Liberal.”
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This Alternet article, also carried at Salon, is on point:
https://www.alternet.org/good-news-democrats-warning-corporate-education-reform-wing
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“The Democrats lost their voice”
They lost their voice on Wall Street
In talks with Jamie Dimon
It made them horse 🏇 to oft repeat
“I so adore your diamond”
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