Yong Zhao is one of the foremost experts in the nation on international comparisons. He was born and educated in China, but has worked in American universities for a number of years. He recently moved to the University of Kansas, where he holds a Distinguished Professorship.
He analyzes here how U.S. students in fourth and eighth grades performed on the TIMSS, which is focused on mathematics and science. Politicians like to bemoan the fact that U.S. students are not #1 in the world on this test or on PISA. As I have previous written, American students were never #1 on international tests. Back in the mid-1960s, when these tests began and fewer nations participated, we were dead last. I wrote about it here and here and also in my book Reign of Error, where I documented in detail how poorly we have always done on these tests, how little it means, and why these tests have zero predictive value for our economy. Also, see here.
Open the links to see the scores and graphs.
Zhao finds little change in the relative standing of American students, despite 15 years of berating teachers, students, and public schools. We changed the standards, the curriculum, and the tests, but none of that made much difference.
Zhao writes:
Reflections and Questions
Can we ever catch up? Is it necessary to catch up?…
It seems clear that after tremendous efforts to catch up to the high performing education systems in test scores, the U.S. has not succeeded. Two questions arise. First, can the U.S. ever catch up? Second, is it really necessary to catch up? My answer to both questions are no. Interested readers can read my books Catching up or Leading the Way: American Education in the Age of Globalization and World Class Learners: Educating Creative and Entrepreneurial Students.
Is it worth the cost?
While test scores went up in math in both the U.S. and East Asian countries, more students lost confidence in math and valued math less. If it is true that whatever policies and practices that resulted in higher test scores also make students less confident and less interested in math, are these policies and practices really educationally sound? Don’t we want more people have confidence in math and value math?
How much does curriculum matter?
The U.S. has “fixed” its curriculum but has not narrowed the gap. All the efforts that went into fixing the curriculum did not produce the results promised by those who adamantly believed and argued that American schools have lower standard and fragmented curriculum. Was the diagnosis wrong? Does curriculum and standards really matter that much?
Should we keep “fixing” American teachers?
TIMSS and other international tests have resulted in waves of teacher bashing in America, suggesting that they are less qualified and less mathematically knowledgeable than their counterparts in East Asian education systems. Bashed have also been teacher education programs in the U.S.. But the data does not really support the blames. Perhaps American teachers are great at doing something more important than simply raising test scores.
My Conclusion
I have questioned the value of international tests, and for that matter any standardized test, for improving our children’s education in many places. Test scores simply do not reflect what our children need to live in the future, let alone what they need to defend and improve a democratic society. Test scores are simply the indicator of one’s ability in taking the test. We should never read too much into it and attempt to draw conclusions that fuels actions that could affect the future of millions of children and the future of our society.
I have also raised questions on many occasions about copying policies and practices from other systems. It is not to say that we cannot learn from others. But education is both deeply rooted in and an integral part of culture, hence they mutually enhance and perpetuate, as I have argued in my book Who’s Afraid of the Big Bad Dragon: Why China has the Best (and Worst) Education System in the World. Different cultures impose different values and expectations on education. Different cultures also support and suppress different educational practices. Unless one is ready and able to redefine one’s culture and society, copying isolated educational policies rarely works.
The lesson from all these: Stop copying others’ past and start inventing our own future.

“Test scores simply do not reflect what our children need to live in the future, let alone what they need to defend and improve a democratic society.”
Tragically true and sadly obvious in our state of affairs today.
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May a coming revolt against the ever-more-powerful testing/computer invasions be student led.
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I don’t have much hope of that after seeing babies in their strollers in the Apple store swiping on screens. I think young people will just see computers as a given and go along with it all. 😦
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The propaganda that is out there is so frustrating…
I saw a commercial the other day that cycled through numbers counting up superimposed over images of children on the screen. They stopped at number 27 superimposed over a very depressed looking student hanging her head and the voiceover said that the US was number 27 in the world in a certain area of education. I can’t remember if it was testing or what. Anyone watching would be completely mislead no matter what was being measured.
Diane, you posted an article once about how the US is and has been a leader in so many areas, like science and technology, responsible for breakthroughs and advancements of all kinds. And the point was that if the education system is so poor, how are we reaping such a harvest? Can you give me a search word so I can look up the article? It made so much sense that I just have to read it again…
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Commercials like the one you described promote the privatization frenzy. Our preoccupation with testing is harmful on so many levels. All of the changes have amounted to nothing of value. We will never improve outcomes for students unless we focus on changes that make a difference like reduction of class sizes, supports for struggling families, and integration. Nobody wants to pay for these meaningful changes so we chase “reform,” another dead end that weakens services for the majority of students. It makes no sense! We will never find the right answers unless we start asking the right questions.
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Tests are strange. Ok. I know teachers who actually GIVE the students the answers to test questions (in the form of a review worksheet or game) and they STILL get those questions wrong on tests. Ok, I admit it. I’ve done it myself. I’ve even asked students how they account for this. I get answers like, “We don’t care.” “We don’t pay attention.” “We’re tired. “We forgot.” Sigh. Tests and test-takers are strange. What’s a teacher to do?
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http://www.edweek.org/tm/articles/2016/11/29/kentucky-leaders-sued-for-teachers-pension_ap.html
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Kentucky leaders sued for teachers’ pension woes http://www.edweek.org /
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I can’t agree with you any more, you’re right on target. Common Core and No child left behind was the start of the downward spiral. They teach the kids how to take tests, not how to learn.
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“I can’t agree with you any more, you’re right on target. ”
Huh? There is a mistake here somewhere. I just can’t quite get my head around it.
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Why not compare the U.S. to the top 5-scoring country by student population, poverty, and race? Once we do that, one glaring fact that pops out is that none of these countries are privatizing their schools into for-profit, corporate charter schools, and transparency is mandatory. The schools in these countries are all controlled through one national, government agency.
Singapore
5.6 million people total population
There are about 478,000 students in the K-12 system
Ethnic groups
74.1 percent Chinese
13.4 percent Malay
9.2 percent Indian
3.3 percent other
The government provides numerous assistance programmes to the homeless and needy through the Ministry of Social and Family Development, so acute poverty is rare.
Education for primary, secondary, and tertiary levels is mostly supported by the state. All institutions, private and public, must be registered with the Ministry of Education
National examinations are standardised across all schools, with a test taken after each stage. After the first six years of education, students take the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE),[238] which determines their placement at secondary school. At the end of the secondary stage, GCE “O”-Level exams are taken; at the end of the following pre-university stage, the GCE “A”-Level exams are taken.
Hong Kong (a semi autonomous city state that is part of Communist China)
Total population: about 7.2 million
Ethnic groups:
93.6 percent Chinese
6.4 percent other
About a 5th of the population lives in poverty.
I couldn’t find how many children attend Kong Kong’s K-12 schools, but it couldn’t be too much more than the number in Singapore.
There are more than 1,100 schools in Hong Kong in total; as of 2010, more than 1,000 of them were local government schools. Primary and secondary education is mandatory for Hong Kong residents, but kindergarten is not.
Hong Kong’s public schools are operated by the Education Bureau. The system features a non-compulsory three-year kindergarten, followed by a compulsory six-year primary education, a compulsory three-year junior secondary education, a non-compulsory two-year senior secondary education leading to the Hong Kong Certificate of Education Examinations and a two-year matriculation course leading to the Hong Kong Advanced Level Examinations. The New Senior Secondary academic structure and curriculum was implemented in September 2009, which provides for all students to receive three years of compulsory junior and three years of compulsory senior secondary education. Under the new curriculum, there is only one public examination, namely the Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education.
With the advent of education reform there is a greater emphasis on group projects, open-ended assignments on top of traditional homework. The current workload of a primary student in Hong Kong includes approximately two hours of schoolwork nightly. Along with extra-curricular activities, Hong Kong’s education has become synonymous for leaning towards quantity. As early as March 1987, education advisory inspectors became concerned with the excessive amounts of “mechanical work and meaningless homework
Korea
Total population is 50.8 million
7.3 million children attend k-12 schools
Ethnic groups:
I could not find any official statistics
The CIA Fact Book says that Ethnic Groups are “homogeneous”
According to official estimate, about 15 percent of South Koreans live below the poverty line.
A centralized administration in South Korea oversees the process for the education of children from kindergarten to the third and final year of high school. The system’s rigid and hierarchical structure has been criticized for stifling creativity and innovation; described as intensely and “brutally” competitive, The system is often blamed for the high suicide rate in the country, particularly the growing rates among those aged 10–19.
Chinese Taipei
Total population 23.5 million
K-12 school population: 3.8 million
The poverty rate is 6 percent
Ethnic groups:
84 percent are ethnic Taiwanese
14 percent Chinese
2 percent indigenous
The educational system in Taiwan is the responsibility of the Ministry of Education of Republic of China (commonly known as “Taiwan”). The system in the ROC produces pupils with some of the highest test scores in the world, especially in mathematics and science. It has been criticised for placing excessive pressure on students and eschewing creativity in favour of rote memorization. Recent educational reforms intended to address these criticisms are a topic of intense debate in Taiwan. Although current law mandates only nine years of schooling, 95% of students go on to high school, trade school or college. President Ma announced in January 2011 that the government would begin the phased implementation of a twelve-year compulsory education program by 2014
Japan
Total population 127.3 million
K-12 education population: 14.7 million
Poverty in Japan: 16 percent
Ethnic groups:
98.5 percent Japanese
0.5 percent Korean
0.4 percent Chinese
0.6 percent other
Japan has one of the world’s best-educated populations, with 100% enrollment in compulsory grades and zero illiteracy. While not compulsory, high school (koukou 高校) enrollment is over 96% nationwide and nearly 100% in the cities. The high school drop out rate is about 2% and has been increasing. About 46% of all high school graduates go on to university or junior college.
The Ministry of Education closely supervises curriculum, textbooks, classes and maintains a uniform level of education throughout the country.
A big difference between the Japanese school system and the American School system is that Americans respect individuality while the Japanese control the individual by observing group rules. This helps to explains the Japanese characteristic of group behavior.
The United States
The total population is about 319 million
The K-12 student population is more than 50 million.
The poverty rate is about 14%.
Ethnic Groups
62.2 percent white
12.4 percent Black
5.2 percent Asian
17.4 percent Hispanic
0.7 percent American Indian and Alaska Native
I don’t think it is necessary to describe the K-12 education system in the US. If you don’t know those facts, then you aren’t reading this blog. Simply, K-12 education in the U.S. is diversified between 50 states and 15,000 traditional public school districts that are mostly supervised by community based, democratically elected school boards. Beyond that simple definition, it gets complicated, because the traditional public education system in the U.S. is under attack by special interested, both religious and corporate and they are mostly psycho, greedy, power hungry lunatics from a variety off factions mostly funded and supported by billionaire oligarchs.
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I really enjoy Yong’s perspective…I do believe we have lost something that others see and appreciate when we focused on scores as the metric for success. We see less innovation, less applicability, less excitement…and these are the areas that drive the economy, not test scores.
Ryan Collay Director Education by Design Former SMILE director OSU
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IMHO, education system should instill the foundation of humanity and civility in all learners, like the humanitarian SEED to grow into a strong TREE of body, mind and spirit in human.
Liberal Arts and STEM should enhance learners to be creativity, curiosity, and exploration into THE ULTIMATE ARTS of LIVING with understanding of BREVITY, FULFILLMENT, CONTENTMENT, TRANQUILITY, and WISDOM.
Life would be such a waste of PRECIOUS time whenever people in authority or leadership keep pursuing materialistic impermanence and committing crime like suppressing PUBLIC literacy to control, causing chaos to profiteer, and promoting hatred, divisiveness and fear to hold power.
All commoners should focus on their well-being through moderation in body (exercise, work), mind (learn and relax), and spirit (volunteer and take any hobby like meditation, music, sport, painting, creative writing, languages…). Whenever people are healthy, happy and confident, they are self-discipline and self-reliance.
People can share and care for others whenever they are self-discipline and self-reliance.
Therefore, education system should instill the concept of self-discipline and self-reliance to all learners.
This will be the only solution (= THE ULTIMATE ARTS of LIVING with understanding of BREVITY, FULFILLMENT, CONTENTMENT, TRANQUILITY, and WISDOM.) to diffuse both righteousness (fascism = capitalism with hatred and divisiveness) and rightfulness (communism = capitalism without humanity and civility). Back2basic
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Right on Zhao
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