Robert Kagan is a distinguished scholar of foreign policy. He wrote this important article for The Washington Post about the danger that Donald Trump poses to our nation. He excoriates the GOP leaders who are meekly falling into line behind him in the name of party unity. I am 77 years old. This is the most crucial presidential election of my lifetime. If Trump should win, if he should appoint one or two Supreme Court justices, every major progressive decision would be rolled back, including Roe v. Wade.
Kagan writes:
“The Republican Party’s attempt to treat Donald Trump as a normal political candidate would be laughable were it not so perilous to the republic. If only he would mouth the party’s “conservative” principles, all would be well.
“But of course the entire Trump phenomenon has nothing to do with policy or ideology. It has nothing to do with the Republican Party, either, except in its historic role as incubator of this singular threat to our democracy. Trump has transcended the party that produced him. His growing army of supporters no longer cares about the party. Because it did not immediately and fully embrace Trump, because a dwindling number of its political and intellectual leaders still resist him, the party is regarded with suspicion and even hostility by his followers. Their allegiance is to him and him alone.
“And the source of allegiance? We’re supposed to believe that Trump’s support stems from economic stagnation or dislocation. Maybe some of it does. But what Trump offers his followers are not economic remedies — his proposals change daily. What he offers is an attitude, an aura of crude strength and machismo, a boasting disrespect for the niceties of the democratic culture that he claims, and his followers believe, has produced national weakness and incompetence. His incoherent and contradictory utterances have one thing in common: They provoke and play on feelings of resentment and disdain, intermingled with bits of fear, hatred and anger. His public discourse consists of attacking or ridiculing a wide range of “others” — Muslims, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Mexicans, Europeans, Arabs, immigrants, refugees — whom he depicts either as threats or as objects of derision. His program, such as it is, consists chiefly of promises to get tough with foreigners and people of nonwhite complexion. He will deport them, bar them, get them to knuckle under, make them pay up or make them shut up.
“That this tough-guy, get-mad-and-get-even approach has gained him an increasingly large and enthusiastic following has probably surprised Trump as much as anyone else. Trump himself is simply and quite literally an egomaniac. But the phenomenon he has created and now leads has become something larger than him, and something far more dangerous.
“Republican politicians marvel at how he has “tapped into” a hitherto unknown swath of the voting public. But what he has tapped into is what the founders most feared when they established the democratic republic: the popular passions unleashed, the “mobocracy.” Conservatives have been warning for decades about government suffocating liberty. But here is the other threat to liberty that Alexis de Tocqueville and the ancient philosophers warned about: that the people in a democracy, excited, angry and unconstrained, might run roughshod over even the institutions created to preserve their freedoms. As Alexander Hamilton watched the French Revolution unfold, he feared in America what he saw play out in France — that the unleashing of popular passions would lead not to greater democracy but to the arrival of a tyrant, riding to power on the shoulders of the people.
“This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Führer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how. Today, there is Putinism, which also has nothing to do with belief or policy but is about the tough man who single-handedly defends his people against all threats, foreign and domestic.
“To understand how such movements take over a democracy, one only has to watch the Republican Party today. These movements play on all the fears, vanities, ambitions and insecurities that make up the human psyche. In democracies, at least for politicians, the only thing that matters is what the voters say they want — vox populi vox Dei. A mass political movement is thus a powerful and, to those who would oppose it, frightening weapon. When controlled and directed by a single leader, it can be aimed at whomever the leader chooses. If someone criticizes or opposes the leader, it doesn’t matter how popular or admired that person has been. He might be a famous war hero, but if the leader derides and ridicules his heroism, the followers laugh and jeer. He might be the highest-ranking elected guardian of the party’s most cherished principles. But if he hesitates to support the leader, he faces political death.”
Read it all. And think about what lies ahead if this bully is elected.

Diane,
Being from Texas, you will find the platform of the Texas GOP very disgusting as well as frightening:
The main theme of the Texas Republican platform this year is nullification and destruction of everything they oppose, including women’s rights, ethnic diversity, comprehensive sex education, LGBT rights, the separation of church and state, voting rights, and the federal government.
Right off the bat, Texas Republicans began their platform document with a preamble pledging their belief in God and and went on to list adherence to “the laws of nature” as a principle – even though the Constitution makes no such references. But it only got worse from there. Texas Republicans openly called for nullifying federal laws and ignoring the rulings of federal courts
Read more at http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45954_Texas_Republicans_Adopt_Astonishingly_Extreme_Party_Platform#r79psyqEUxF7sKhf.99
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Donald Trump is nothing but the poisoned fruit that grew from the root of Ronald Reagan.
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More from the poisoned root of GWBush and BObama. They were and are the toxic merde fertilizing the Trump tree.
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Yah, I knew it would be Obama’s fault somehow.
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Reblogged this on David R. Taylor-Thoughts on Education.
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I recall the Republican leaders praising the “strength” of Putin and criticizing the “weakness” of Obama. Republican leaders clearly supported a bully, Putin, and their base responded by voting for Trump.
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Robert Kagan? Co-founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century? Iraq invasion lead cheerleader?
That Robert Kagan?
Lecturing us about the dangers of fascism?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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…and isn’t Robert Kagan the first cousin of SCOTUS Justice Kagan?
BTW, my article “Trump as Ignoramus”, with links to Paul Krugman (on “Trump as Ignoramus”), Arthur Camins (on schools not teaching “citizenship development”, and Trump’s violent butler (on his wish to “hang Obama”, which was published on Monday by City Watch Today, has been redacted. There seems to be no way to find it.
First time this has ever happened to me. The page now just shows “404 this is not available”…..scary stuff going on. Is google now rampantly in support of Trump and are we all now subject to being redacted for expressing our opinions?
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Exacto
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From google…..
“David Axelrod: A surprise request from Justice Scalia – CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/14/…/david-axelrod-surprise-request-from-justice-scalia/
CNN
Feb 13, 2016 – The former senior adviser to President Obama recalls when Scalia asked … Scalia, who was friends with Ginsburg and recommended Kagan, …
Antonin Scalia Actually Rooted For Elena Kagan’s Nomination
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/david-axelrod-scalia-kagan_us_56c...
The Huffington Post
Feb 14, 2016 – Scalia and Kagan forged a friendship as duck hunting buddies. … I hope he sends us Elena Kagan.” Scalia and Kagan were a generation apart in age and on opposite poles ideologically. But the two ….. Suggested For You …”
life is full of surprises…..
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So Kagan has the insiders’ view: he knows exactly what’s happening, and his friends might have planned a good deal of what we experience today. They play a dangerous game, but the billions they get out of it is worth for them—apparently.
The anger of the people and the manipulation of this anger by ruthless people always go hand in hand. Some of these ruthless leaders are instinctive (like Trump might be) and some know exactly what they are doing and where they are heading. According to Mussolini,
<em"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
so when talking about fascism, we cannot separate it from corporations, and hence from our billionaire friends.
The essence of the whole process I think is perfectly described by Göring
“… it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
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Exactly.
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I am a Navy Dad and I worry that a President Hillary would fight and lose another optional war in the mid east with a weakened military while fighting under rules of engagement that favor the enemy. She is also status quo on Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, TPP and Ed reform. Trump is a flawed candidate but both he and Sanders disagree with Hillary on those policies.
She is no friend of the public or private sectors of the middle class. During the 2008 campaign it was rumored that her choice for Secretary of Labor would have been Oregon Governor Ted Kulingoski who signed a bill that gutted the pensions of mid career teachers by almost 50% in spite of their contracts.
Bottom line is I cannot trust her with the lives of our servicemen and women, or with the livelihoods of our teachers.
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Why would you trust any mainstream politician with the lives of the servicemen and/or the livelihoods of teachers??
Well, you can trust one, not mainstream, and that is Jill Stein.
Vote third party, vote Jill Stein!
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“Bottom line is I cannot trust her with the lives of our servicemen and women, or with the livelihoods of our teachers.”
Seriously?
Have you ever taken a peek at what the Democratic party stands for, and what the Republicans represent?
There is a rather huge difference.
And you’d trust Trump with “the lives of our servicemen and women, or with the livelihoods of our teachers.?”
C’mon.
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There are people who hate Hillary Clinton so much that it is irrelevant who’s running against her. If it came down to Yosemite Sam versus Hillary Clinton, they would say, “I’m no fan of Yosemite Sam, but I trust him more than Hillary Clinton. I would but be surprised to find that polls show that a plurality of Americans believe Yosemite Sam is “better on the economy,” or some equivalent election-year cliché, than Hillary.
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While I dislike and mistrust Hillary (and I voted for Bernie Sanders in my state’s Primary), I’m not willing to blow up the whole country and risk Supreme Court nominees who will turn back Roe vs Wade, Obergefell vs Hodges, et al. She may not nominate Supreme Court justices who will overturn decisions such as Citizens United, but she won’t nominate anyone who will be wiling to make abortion or same-sex marriage illegal, either.
I trust Donald Trump way less than Hillary Clinton. He’s a loose cannon, an egotistical, entitled and (okay, I’ll go there) sociopath who is for himself, and for himself only.
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“and (okay, I’ll go there) sociopath who is for himself, and for himself only.”
I think the term is psychopath. Either way, it’s ok. It’s all very scientific as you can see
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/
with nothing personal, as Lloyd explained to us. It may very well be, though, these pres candidates are somekindofpaths. Why else would they run?
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Okay, “psychopath” sounds even more accurate to me.
And most politicians, at the very least, seem to be spoiled, entitled, selfish, egotistical narcissists.
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Yes that are on some kind of path – on a path that leads to a wreck and ruin for too many people.
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It seems many people trust those leaders with leading the military who are most willing to send our kids (not theirs) into war. Like Reagan, Bush or Cruiz: manly sounding men.
I trust those leaders who are the most cautious about war. But the trust goes only that far: as soon as they will say, my children need to go to war, my trust will evaporate.
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Hillary Clinton’s policies, like Bill’s, and like Obama’s, are fundamentally tactical. Her military policy will be cautious to the extent good politics require a display of caution, and hawkish to the extent good politics require a show of strength. So basically we know what kind military policy we would get with Hillary. She’s not a lunatic or an idiot. Trump may be both.
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While Kagan is correct about the unqualified, dangerously unpredictable Trump, Kagan’s own ideology, neoconservatism, also presents an existential threat to the U.S. and the world, as well as a draining of financial resources needed for our schools and infrastructure.
Neocons such as Kagan and Hillary Clinton favor continued bloated military budgets as well as confrontations with and provocations of nuclear-armed Russia and China, such as the current stationing of U.S./NATO forces on Russia’s western borders and U.S. ships in the South China Sea (Hillary Clinton’s “Pacific Pivot” when she was Secretary of State). This is a reckless, dangerous foreign policy which also diverts hundreds of billions of dollars from social welfare programs to more wars and military bases for the U.S. global empire, now realized by most people outside the U.S. as the greatest threat to world peace (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/greatest-threat-world-peace-country_n_4531824.html).
Robert Kagan warning us about fascism is truly ironic, given the militaristic ideology he espouses.
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I don’t like Trump, but even Trump has acknowledged something that Robert Kagan never will: the invasion of Iraq was a “big fat mistake” based on lies that needlessly resulted in the death of thousands of US troops, maimed thousands more, made Iraq a haven for terrorists and destabilized the entire region.
The only thing that Kagan considers a mistake is that we pulled out “prematurely” — in other words, that we did not expend even more lives to “win”.
The man has no credibility on anything.
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SDP,
“The only thing that Kagan considers a mistake is that we pulled out “prematurely”. . .
I guess Kagan has experience with onanism, eh!
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Ed, I see the global situation differently from you. If Russia had no expansionist plans they wouldn’t object to NATO in Poland, nor if China had no illegitimate plans to be able to close the South China Sea commerce routes would they object to US presence around “their” so-called islands. The military bases are necessary for justice and freedom around the world, of which the US is still the default custodian, and must regain the military strength to fight two wars simultaneously, a capacity eliminated by ideological plan by the current administration.
Both Hillary and Trump, I believe, understand the necessity of recovering our absolute military superiority. Bernie does not, although from the point of domestic policy, I largely agree with him, even to the tax increases. But Bernie, if elected, could not get agreement from the legislature to raise taxes for his domestic purposes, whereas I suspect either Hillary or Trump could get increases for the military passed.
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Harlan says: “The military bases are necessary for justice and freedom around the world, of which the US is still the default custodian,”
“Hey, Hungary, we, American Crusaders for Global Friedmanism, have decided to put nukes along your border and, actually, all over your country, aiming them east to protect you from the big bad Russian Wolf.”
I read similar crap in my 8th grade history book in 1972
“In 1939, the German threat to Belarus was great, so the Soviet army went in, and liberated it.”
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There is an interesting interview of Robert Paxton (author of “The Anatomy of Fascism”) by Amy Goodman over at DemcracyNow!, regarding Trump and the potential for domestic fascism: http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/15/father_of_fascism_studies_donald_trump
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Potential??
Hate to tell you but it’s already here!
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Although attributed to Sinclair Lewis, there is no evidence that he actually wrote this, but it’s still a great quote:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.”
Whoever came up with that quote, it’s certainly true. It’s here, folks. 😦
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Yes, have seen that quote. I’d substitute “As” for “When”. And, again, it is already here. It’s not as overtly brutal and violent as the old fascism, it’s the kinder gentler version. Hmm, where have we heard that term before.
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Duane, one could indeed well argue that the “kinder gentler” (or “softer,” if you wish) version of fascism is more insidious, and in the end, more dangerous than the more overt kind.
It seduces people, and allows them to believe that everything is fine, and this is the way things are supposed to be.
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Yes!!
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Exactly, Zorba. Sneaky is the 21st century way of screwing the people.
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Gary, this is a welcome contribution to the thread, thanks. Deserves a close read by those who throw the term around loosely. It is somewhat comforting to see major differences between pre-fascist Germany & the present here. However there is an uncomfortable similarity between the Weimar govt & today’s right-wing vs moderate congressional deadlock leading to executive orders.
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Thanks for the kind words. The breathless declarations that “we’re already there,” to be found in the comments and elsewhere, are nigh-on to transcendentally tedious.
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I love that phrase, “transcendentally tedious,” but I must dissent that the non-conservative side in congress was “moderate.” The Democrats were raging radical (my alliterative contribution) progressives who accorded Christian, capitalist conservatism (raise you one alliteration) zero respect, leaving that part of the citizenry of the country no real option but to try to take back all three of the branches of government. And so it goes (Vonnegut, of course).
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Zorba, Lewis wrote this in ‘It can’t happen here’
“… in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word ‘Fascism’ and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty. … To their purpose they could quote not only Scripture but Jefferson.”
To tell you the truth, this sounds more accurate, more up to date, very strong, though less dramatic—which actually is a virtue, imo, since it’s completely clear.
Just a few lines below, we can also read
“I am convinced that everything that is worth while in the world has been accomplished by the free, inquiring, critical spirit, and that the preservation of this spirit is more important than any social system whatsoever. But the men of ritual and the men of barbarism are capable of shutting up the men of science and of silencing them forever.”
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Diane, I love your writing and rhetoric and agree with most of it. Yet, many of us believe that the concepts of “freedom” in our Constitution (being derived from our Judeo-Christian heritage, common law, natural law and other documents) imply a freedom that is not morally licentious or socially destructive. That freedom should not propose greater degrees of sin (theologically defined) or social dysfunction/destruction (pragmatically, utilitarian, defined).
Many of us believe Roe v. Wade didn’t create social benefits, derived from the supposed freedom to murder, or the contradiction that a mother would terminate a fetus when she was glad her parents didn’t terminate her (isn’t there the “right to exist”).
Many of us feel violated by socialized medicine, because we seek to live a healthy and responsible life (one that inhibits diseases, not promotes them). Yet, we see our health insurance premiums skyrocketing, because we are essentially subsidizing treatments for illnesses of those who make bad lifestyle choices (ex. part of my premium goes to treat illnesses of smokers).
When did it become the States role to violate the principle “you reap what you sow”. That the State tells its citizens, “go ahead, live a licentious and sexual “free” lifestyle, and there will be Obama-Care there to give you affordable treatments”. When did it become one’s “rights” to live in a way that economically punishes others?
So, Alex T was right,
“But here is the other threat to liberty that Alexis de Tocqueville and the ancient philosophers warned about: that the people in a democracy, excited, angry and unconstrained, might run roughshod over even the institutions created to preserve their freedoms”
Those of us that lean-Right already believe many institutions and ideals of our Republic “under God” have been run roughshod, by the legislation of moral mass- immorality. The Left gets just as “excited, angry and unconstrained”, and many of its social causes (not based on any kind of objective morality) have produced little, to no, good fruit in society, IMO.
So, while we may all agree-to-disagree about politics or religion, I believe a good journalist will admit their own bias, acknowledge some of the positive facets of those whom they disagree with, and in a more balanced-manner discuss the current trends in our democracy.
BTW, I’m a Republican who is not behind Donald Trump, yet who understands the angst and forces he has connected with. Yet, I seek to live out the principle “love does its neighbor no harm” and “do not return evil for evil, but return good for evil”.
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Y’know, Jesus didn’t tell you to ask *why* someone is sick or whether it was their own fault, He just told you to care for them.
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Re: the Constitution and the subsidization of bad lifestyle choices, how do you feel about the right of the criminally accused to have an attorney at the government’s expense?
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Good question. Just what is the role of the State, and how much taxes should be collected to pay for services others need, but maybe could’ve been avoided?
How would you feel if 90% of your paycheck one day goes to providing services for people that live in whatever irresponsible way they choose, expecting others to fix things for them?
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Exactly. Your complaint about universal healthcare isn’t about the socialization of risk, which is the function of insurance. It’s about how much you should pay.
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Your comment is nonsensical. During the 60’s when marginal income tax rates were as high as 90% the EFFECTIVE tax rate paid the wealthiest was about 47%. The wealthiest today often pay little or no income taxes and when they do pay it is at a lower rate than the average paid by middle class or what’s left of it.
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“Many of us feel violated by socialized medicine, because we seek to live a healthy and responsible life (one that inhibits diseases, not promotes them). Yet, we see our health insurance premiums skyrocketing, because we are essentially subsidizing treatments for illnesses of those who make bad lifestyle choices (ex. part of my premium goes to treat illnesses of smokers).”
We all subsidize people who drink soda. And eat red meat. And don’t eat enough green vegetables or take their extra Vitamins each day.
Maybe your kid gets cancer because your wife drank a cup of coffee or ate some tuna during pregnancy. You think your insurance should be allowed not to cover it, right? If only your kid had eaten a healthier diet and spent all his time exercising and eating healthier, it is likely his fault for getting cancer and you are now responsible for paying for all his treatment. No matter how “good” you think you were, I’m sure I can find something in your lifestyle that is obvious to blame. Letting him eat foods with sugar. Or with fat. Or not starting him on a strict exercise regime from toddlerhood.If you had done that, your child surely would be healthier and I wouldn’t be stuck paying his medical costs when he gets cancer. Right?
Is your kid overweight? That’s even worse! Oops, I don’t think he deserves any medical care anymore. All fat kids need to know it is their fault for those “bad lifestyle choices”. They should have been exercising more.
Unless you are forcing your family to live the most healthy life eating only raw fruits and vegetables, no soda or alcohol, etc., then I suggest that you are living in a very precarious glass house.
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Good points, and yes my argument has limitations. But, when people make obviously self-destructive choices (ex. drug abuse, sexual promiscuity, excessive obesity) and then expect or lower, subsidized, health insurance premium (paid by others’ high premiums) there is some degree of inherent injustice in that transaction.
One could argue all insurance is somewhat of a scam, because those that use it least essentially are being charged for those that use it most (ex. I have not caused a wreck ever, but I’m paying for other peoples’ cars to get fixed).
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You might appreciate that “scam” some day if you ever get in a car wreck or get diagnosed with cancer (not something you caused yourself, of course).
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Dienne, Yes Jesus didn’t specify how we should be good Samaritans (ex. by personal charity or State charity), and yes, we should show grace and mercy. BTW, the Good Samaritan was taking care of someone who was violated, not someone who violated themselves (though that distinction may not be an issue)
Yet, the principle of being a “brother’s keeper” does not mean my brother can live in an irresponsible manner, get into deep trouble, and then expect to get a bail-out. Because, the principle of “if you sow to the flesh, you will from the flesh reap corruption” (aka, bad choices produce bad consequences) is something my brother just might have to live with. Grace teaches all to be responsible, not irresponsible.
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Grace also teaches you not to judge. Love your neighbor. And your enemies.
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Talking about the moral and practical issues of choices and the role of the State and individual in those topics is not “judging”. Does your doctor “judge” you when he tells you to exercise more, get off sugar, or that your current lifestyle is unhealthy? We “judge” when we say pedophilia is destructive. Or, do we avoid such judgments?
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Rick Lapworth said: “Many of us feel violated by socialized medicine….” If you are referring to Medicare, you could not be more mistaken, more wrong and ill informed. I and all of my older relatives are thankful for Medicare. This program means that I can get decent medical care without going broke or bankrupt. I don’t smoke, I don’t abuse alcohol or any other substance, I eat healthy and try my best to get exercise. It would be vile, evil and wrong if Medicare refused to cover people who smoked or over indulged. What’s next: hospital ERs refusing to treat incoming patients because they made personal choice mistakes? Just let those moochers die in the streets? This is why I hate the GOP/libertarian/Ayn Rand ideology and mindset.
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Thanks Joe and I agree with your points. Yet, just as you pointed out limits in my arguments, there are limits to yours too.
My faith teaches me to be my brother’s keeper; to care about the plights and needs of others. But it also teaches that people should live responsibly and not do evil to others by making others pay 50% of their paycheck to give them services that could’ve been avoided if they had lived responsibly.
Where do we draw the line? The heroin addict that gets free ER treatment (subsidized by others) is essentially stealing from others, and “you shall not steal”. The addict is basically holding a gun to the head of someone and saying, “pay for my treatment, that I cannot afford myself”.
Yes, Medicare has done a lot of good and I appreciate your reproof and correction, but at what point do State social services become robbing the responsible to reward the irresponsible (which is unjust and teaches an immoral lesson, ie. live as you wish and expect others to care for you).
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Every other major industrialized democracy in the world disagrees with your personal assessment of who is deserving of care. The rest of the industrialized world is just wrong in having decided that all of their people, regardless of their lifestyle choices should have access to healthcare? In light of the overwhelming prevalence of so called socialized medicine in advanced industrialized countries, the burden is on you to show some basis other than your personal judgment of the lifestyle of others as a basis for why large masses of citizens should be left to die because of the way they may (or may not) have chosen to live. You are offended by the “freedom to murder” granted by Roe v. Wade but are perfectly fine with some people who would otherwise live being condemned to death because of alleged lifestyle choices (ignoring the fact that these may be not be choices at all, but may be caused by trauma that you cannot even conceive of early their lives). I will never understand some conservatives who defer to God as the supreme judge, and then take it upon themselves to decide based on their personal beliefs who should live and who should die.
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Excellent comment, Ray, and right to the point.
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Yes, Ray, I don’t want to play the role of God. I only want people to live responsibly and avoid creating burdens that the State, churches or individuals must then pay for. I appreciate all the comments pointing out the flaws in my thinking and limits to my inferences, deductions and prescriptions. We are all to live as Good Samaritans and the State has a role in that too. Read the OT laws about caring for the poor, allowing others to freely glean in your field, allowing wild beasts onto your property to feed, cancelling debts every 7 years, etc, etc.
We are all flawed and fallen individuals needing grace and mercy.
Thanks for the reproofs!
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Rick, you are too much “Old Testament,” whereas I believe that the New Testament brings the fulfillment of the Old Testament, and also supersedes it. The New Testament brought the New Covenant, and where there are conflicts between the Old and New Testaments, the New Testament should be followed.
Do you abstain from eating pork? Take care that you do not mix two different fabrics in your clothing? Believe that there is a religious reason to circumcise your sons? I could add a lot of other things to this list.
In any case, we will have to agree to disagree.
Go in peace, my brother.
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“Judge not, lest ye be judged.”
“Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone.”
“Whatsoever you do to the least of these, My brethren, you do unto Me.”
He ate with sinners, saved the adulterous woman, allowed a sinful woman to annoint His feet, and received criticism for those acts.
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Amen, Zorba. Yes, we are to follow and imitate the Savior. Making practical evaluations about moral issues of social responsibility is not “judging”. Jesus told us “bad trees produce bad fruit…you shall know a tree by its fruit”. So, we are not to be morally naïve in the name of charity. Repentance comes with faith. “For the grace of God has appeared to all mankind, teaching us to deny ungodly lusts and to live righteously and soberly, waiting for the coming of His Appearing”.
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Rick Lapworth, you seem to make a distinction between the things you feel certain your own family would never do like “abuse heroin” and the risky behaviors no doubt at least some members of your extended family are very likely doing.
Are you teetotallers? Avoid saturated fats and sugars? Do you have a clue how much diabetes costs us?
Do you drive a car? How dare you pollute and cause asthma? I bet those poor kids in the inner city who are suffering aren’t driving cars as often as your own extended family members drive them.
Are you willing to promise to pay any medical treatment if any member of your family gets injured or sick doing any kind of activity for which we can even remotely find some reason they were at fault. Car accident in bad weather? Why were you driving anyway? Your fault.
I find that you seem to think no one in your family will ever be overweight, or if so, you think he is undeserving of insurance. But I like how you had a disclaimer so that some overweight people cross a line and some are okay.
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“Many of us feel violated by socialized medicine. . . ”
And what is your definition of “socialized medicine” and how can that make you “feel violated”?
Here’s an interesting writing by a christian writer. I hope you find it interesting:
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/16/the-christian-myth-of-americas-moral-decay/
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How can you, Rick, tell children that they can’t have healthcare because of “parents’ licentious behavior?” Some things are just the right thing to do.
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It costs you more to pay for the medical care of people who are uninsured than to provide a safety net and that includes not only the “unworthy” but those who lose their medical benefits along with their jobs and those who work in jobs that do not provide medical benefits. One of those badly kept secrets is those who did not have coverage through a group plan did not get the same hospital or doctors rates as those who did. What is fair about that? You don’t think we were paying for healthcare for those who couldn’t afford any insurance? Tying medical coverage to whether your employer is big enough to get favorable rates and provide coverage is just plain stupid. Being virtuous and health conscious never stopped catastrophic accidents or illnesses or asked whether you could afford it.
We are all forced to pay for public education, police and fire protection, libraries, parks,… for the public good. Why are not they considered socialist as well? We may disagree on what constitutes the public good, but all activities that support that good are socialist in nature.
I’m sorry, Rick. You hit a sore spot as perhaps I am doing as well.
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“Jesus told us ‘bad trees produce bad fruit…you shall know a tree by its fruit’. >So, we are not to be morally naïve in the name of charity.<"
The context of Matthew 7 is discerning among false and true prophets when deciding whom to follow. One can extend this to deciding which charities to support, and even to judging and calling out hypocritical 'men of God'.
Laws of the state wherein citizens' $ is pooled in order to promote goals of the state are a different matter. Vote as you wish but render unto Caesar. Separation of church and state is a wise notion.
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Rick writes: “When did it become one’s “rights” to live in a way that economically punishes others?”
Your question is appropriate when it’s directed to Bill Gates. But when it’s directed to my students, many of whom cannot afford healthcare, some bring their kids to class because cannot afford daycare, many work two jobs but still cannot afford internet, some sleep in their cars even in winter, I stop listening to your talk from an apparent bubble that doesn’t let you see, hear, feel what’s out there.
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Fascism and racism are on the rise in Europe in response to the number of refugees they have absorbed. There has been a right wing reaction in London to the new Muslim mayor, but there were many citizens that voted for him and thought he was the best person for the job. Fascism tends to grown in uncertain economic times as some people look for scapegoats on which to blame the plight of the economy, and it is usually the wrong people. That’s what happened in Germany during the Depression.
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“Fascism tends to grown in uncertain economic times as some people look for scapegoats on which to blame the plight of the economy, and it is usually the wrong people.”
The weirdest thing is that, unlike in case of Hitler or Mussolini, one of the real goats eating their cabbage is running for president as their main candidate. That’s how blind and deaf they (we) are.
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Hillary Clinton’s Neocon Resumé, Paul Street
“…Mrs. Clinton is favored over Donald Trump by right-wing billionaires like Charles Koch and (with much more enthusiasm) by leading arch-imperial foreign policy Neoconservatives like Robert Kagan, Max Boot, and Eliot Cohen…”
“Included within her top 10 contributors: Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, P. Morgan,
Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers…”Barbara MacLean
You wouldn’t pay an “atheist” to speak at a “god” convention, would you?
Has anyone viewed her new “pitch”?
She’ll throw in a free pound of “Kosher Bacon” with her hopium elixir…
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Yes this is what we will be presented with: the choice between a man who is probably mentally ill, and a woman who would be a commander in chief of the largest military force in the world, but is an enemy of peace and stability abroad, and at home evinces views such as the patently ludicrous belief that any public school that is doing a below average job should be closed. No need to wonder why the US has among the lowest voter turnouts of any advanced democracy.
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As a Sanders supporter I blame the Democrats, as much as right-wing Republicans, for the disaster which is Trump. For years the Democratic Party has offered almost nothing to the great middle class and the poor in the way of programs to address income inequality and the loss of both private and public sector jobs. The Democrats lost their way as they ran away from the great entitlement and regulatory programs of the New Deal and their traditional support for labor rights. Naturally those in the middle and poor classes who still can vote, despite all the restrictions, see no reason to vote for a party which offers them only talk but no action, only Republican answers dressed up to seem liberal. What if Obama had listened to Senator Sanders 8 years ago and decided to govern like FDR and not Bill Clinton? Perhaps today we would be looking at an electorate solidly behind a progressive Democratic candidate ready to easily defeat whatever conservative the Republicans put up. Instead we have a large portion of what should be the Democratic base lining up to vote for a fascist. Sinclair Lewis was right – it can happen here. To quote Mark Twain (from his Autobiography):
“If we would learn what the human race really is at bottom, we need only observe it in election times.”
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You’re right. Typical citizens are tired of the Democrats progressive talking points in campaign season that get quickly lost once they get into office. Once in power, they only serve corporations, and pass a few token socially progressive laws that no one enforces. That is one of the reasons Sanders, who never aspired the office of president, stepped forward. He was sick of the hypocrisy.
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I agree. Great post.
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I’m with you GST. Obama could have immediately, in 2008, instituted programs similar to FDR with CCC to hire thousands, pay them wages to work on rebuilding infrastructure like collapsing and filthy public schools, Instead, he aligned himself with Robert Rubin and Larry Summers and saw to it that the’ banksters’ self serving and profitable gambling and frauds with credit default swaps and collateral debt obligations would be paid for by the rest of us. He changed the rules and now FDIC, our tax money, backs these billionaire bankers risks….while Dimon and Blankfein got/get multi million dollar bonuses. Obama saw to it that no one would be indicted, for he hired a Wall Street lawyer to run the DoJ. And another Wall Street lawyer to run the SEC….and the Fed.
He also handed out our money to these too big to fail banks without the Elizabeth Warren oversight…and failed to appoint her to that role. Thus the banks still have our money in their coffers, after using much of it to further enrich themselves by buying up failing banks to use the tax write-offs. Our collective memory MUST be reminded of how Obama also shafted us with not allowing the universal health care leaders to be at the table as he negotiated with Big Pharma, and with the Insurance giants, to make their pockets overflow, by legislating that everyone in America MUST have health insurance, no matter the cost to the rest of us. He could have worked to take the greedy insurance industry out of this mix altogether and brought us into the 21st century like every other industrialized nation on the planet. He chose not to. And Hillary keeps claiming these choices of his and the Clintons, as a victory upon which she bases her campaign.
It boggles my mind how anyone, any ignoramus, can say that Obama and the Clintons are Lefties when they have been the most influential in killing off the Middle Class with their decisions to support Wall Street and the Republican corporate agenda.
It is all so demoralizing…the lies from all sides. This is why so many have chosen to stand with Bernie…who is not a good debater and should be giving the cost figures for converting to single payer. He has his failings but he is the only one who tells truths.
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What if Obama had listened to Senator Sanders 8 years ago and decided to govern like FDR and not Bill Clinton?
We would be looking for a constitutional amendment to extend Presidential term limits.
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How many people voted for Trump in the GOP primaries compared to the total number of registered voters in the United States? I’m not talkign about delegates or the number of GOP state primaries that Trump won. I’m talking about actual votes cast for him at the primary ballot box.
To date, Trump has had 11,266,041 votes cast for him in GOP primaries. Ted Cruz has had 7,454,467 votes, Rubio 3,508,250, and Kasich 3,874,189.
There are 146,311,000 registered voters in the United States who are predigested to vote in the general election. In the 2012 Presidential election 126,144,000 registered voters voted.
Donald trump has had 7.7% of the total registered voters vote for him in the GOP primaries or 12.6% if we only count those who actually voted in the 2012 Presidential election.
Nate Silver, who successful called the outcomes in 49 of the 50 states in the 2008 U.S. Presidential election and correctly predicted the winner of all 50 states and the District of Columbia in the 2012 US presidential election, writes that Donald Trump is “Really Unpopular With General Election Voters”, the other 145 million that have not cast votes in the GOP primaries for Donald Trump.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/
The reason that Donald Trumps roar is louder and more powerful than his bite is because he knows how to manipulate the traditional media. Donald Trump is a self-publicist of the first order and he never misses an opportunity to present his wares to the public.
The only way Donald Trump will win this election is if the GOP makes Hillary Clinton appear to be worse than him and fools enough people to believe what they are churning out about her. It is no secret that the GOP and most Republicans hates the Clintons more than most Democrat’s despise the Bush brothers. To defeat HRC, the GOP will invent things that never even happened and then blame them on Hillary. The GOP is very good at this. After all, they did it to Kerry with their Swiftboat Veterans and manged to turn a Vietnam combat vet who had been wounded several times—coming close to death each time—into a coward while turning a coward and a skirt chasing drunk that used his family’s influence to keep him out of that war into a president that lied to get the U.S. to invade Iraq and look what that did to destabilize the Middle East and give rise to ISIS.
Does anyone think ISIS would even exist if Saddam Husein still ruled Iraq?
And would the Taliban still be a threat if the U.S. had only invaded Afghanistan to put an end to al-Qaeda because of 9/11 instead of fighting two wars in the Middle East?
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Lloyd,
I think one has to be very careful about dismissing Trump’s chances
With regard to Nate Silver specifically: he was predicting last year that Trump had virtually no chance (2%) to get the nomination.
Silver does not really understand the concept of uncertainty, which has lead Silver to make predictions that appeared to be far more certain than they actually were with Trump. Trump is very much a wild card.
Trump may be really unpopular as Silver says (and polls actually indicate as much), but Clinton is little better (and seemingly getting worse each time a new poll comes out). Polls consistently show BOTH of them to have negative favorability ratings.
…and here’s the kicker…the most recent polls actually now have Trump either tied with Clinton or slightly ahead.
After Silver’s major screw up on Trump, I would simply not listen to him. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know — and, if Trumps winning the nomination and recent polls against Clinton are any indication, believing that “Trump has no chance” is exceedingly foolish.
In poll after poll, Sanders not only has a positive favorability rating but also beats Trump by a significant margin. If the goal is to beat Trump, then one should select the person who has the greatest chance at doing so. That person is Sanders — not Clinton.
But unfortunately, Democratic party officials seem more interested in nominating Clinton than they are in winning the election. There is not much I or anyone else can do about that.
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I believe after the ugly mudslinging, nonstop lies and personal attacks that will prevail between July and November, many voters will throw up their hands in disgust and simply not turn out to vote. We are seeing already these will not be campaigns about issues or substance. In such a scenario anything could happen.
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Robert Kagan is a neo-conservative who was integral to providing intellectual cover for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, one of the most disastrous foreign policy adventures this country has ever embarked upon, the devastating repercussions if which are still roiling the region. There is absolutely nothing “distinguished” about him.
Kagan’s wife, Victoria Nuland, was a major player behind the coup in the Ukraine, which brought neo-Nazi elements into the government.
These people should not only not be listened to, but should be in jail.
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Yes Trump is abhorrent . Yes he is a demagogue, yes he has no personnel convictions past what ever comes out of his mouth at any given moment and what ever maintains his brand and his obscene amount of wealth . But that is not why I can not vote for Clinton .
Clinton/Obama has birthed Trump the American people get it on the left and the right . “The Government of the people for the people and by the people ” has become the government of the Oligarchs and Plutocrats and the corporations they control.
In 2008 the American people were so fed up they forgot for a few short months that they voted for a Black man . They voted for Hope and Change . Change from what? Change from an economy that was not serving them . Long before the financial collapse they realized that the American workforce was being gutted by economic policy .Being gutted across the wage and educational spectrum . Policy that destroyed 5 Million American manufacturing jobs. Fifteen million jobs when you add the multiplier effect . A good portion of these jobs were Union jobs with decent wages and benefits.Those other 10 million jobs lost were in support services from food services to engineering and accounting not at all low skilled . Make no mistake free trade in wages was a Republican Dream . But It bears the name of Democratic Presidents . Financial Deregulation another dream of the mainstream Republicans again with the name Bill Clinton on the bottom of the Bill .
Hope and Change came to office to Demonstrate his loyalty to those working class Americans who supported him in droves . Did he push the Employee Free Choice Act that would have empowered workers and Unions no !!! He visited Union Busting Caterpillar to push the Stimulus Bill. Did he go after one Banker no “They got bailed out we got left out” even when the Libor scandal hit get out of jail free cards were easily purchased .
Then came 2012 the occupy movement the first revolt of Millennials as ineffective as it was in gaining political power changed the narrative of the Nation from tax cuts budget cuts and deficits to “inequality and a political system working for the one percent.”
Obama sensing the movement ran to Osawatomie, Kansas to become the reincarnation of Teddy Roosevelt a sudden sharp turn to the populist left proposing a fair deal for Americans . Again Americans turned out in droves even skeptics like me who were profoundly disappointed not in the rhetoric of the President but in his actions . Organized Labor again fell in line with the Democrats throwing what little money(as compared to Oligarchs) and influence over their members they still had. Obama again running against a flawed Republican Billionaire ,who made disparaging remarks about struggling Americans :walks away with the Election .
His second Term almost as disappointing as his first . He pursues another disastrous Trade Agreement over the overwhelming objections of the American people who had their congressman’s phone ringing off the Wall for months. Eight years into the financial crises the Banks are up to business as usual, yet the American people are in wholesale decline. The better educated millennials suffering worst, earning 20% less than the previous generation.
But this is an education blog so what is this retired boomer doing here . About six years ago I saw an Exon Commercial touting PISA results. It struck me right from the start as a description by G William Domhoff “Who Rules America ” of the Business Round table assault on the construction trades “willing to spend ten years seeding public opinion to accomplish their goal of demolishing the construction trades Unions” JC. Turner .
I do not have to tell anyone who reads this blog about how that assault has played. Nor do I have to tell anyone who reads these pages how the Obama administration has gone beyond passive to take an active role in another Republican Corporatist dream destroying another public good . Public Education from k-University. Teacher appreciation week becomes Charter appreciation week. Public Schools being closed left and right . Testing and Common Core the tools in the assault .
All the while a little old socialist from Vermont was sitting in the Congress fighting his heart out for Americans for the poor when he voted against Welfare Reform . For Americas young educated workers when he and other progressives refused to back an immigration that called for unlimited H1B visas as well as unskilled visas with out employers having to demonstrate that they sought an American . Voting against every Jobs destroying Trade bill including Panama which he called a tax haven bill for Billionaires avoiding taxes. Calling for economic solutions even as he voted for the crime bill . A Candidate who would be the presumptive nominee if not for antisemitism in minority communities . George Wallace or Lester Maddox could expect to get more than 10% of the Black vote in the South . No way to explain 90% votes for Clinton in those communities with out acknowledging that was a significant factor. Not by his record,his rhetoric or his history. .
This election has demonstrated how entrenched the the political class has become in the Corporatocracy. A wall of incestuous relationship between Billionaires the media that they own and the political class. They have gone from reporters to cheerleaders for the their owners candidates like Bezos at the Washington Post who ran 16banti Bernie pieces in one day . or Comcast at MSNBClinton where Mathews trips over himself answering the softball questions ,he gave to Clinton or Zuckerman at the Daily News whose editorial board according to Juan Cole consulted with Clinton Surrogates to frame the editorial . . Those of us who have followed the education wars are well familiar with these corporate sponsored assaults, we see it every day in the press releases that they pass off as investigative reporting on education issues.
So Diane it is not about God, Gays,or Guns as Trump proves when he gains the evangelical vote as he flaunts his deeply flawed and immoral personnel life . Not many can boast 4 trophy wives and as many bankruptcies. It is about a profound disappointment and a declining standard of living for the middle class .A middle class that voted for “hope and change” and got more of the same. As their better educated children can not expect to have even their diminished life style. But I will not after 46 years as a Democrat be voting for Trump or Hillary . I will be voting Green if Trump gets in it will because the democrats failed to convince me and others they had the back of Americas working class ,not because I wrote in Sanders or voted for Jill Stein.
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Sadly, this is absolutely true. The democrats in charge are more conservative than moderate Republicans of the past.
The only thing that surprises me is that President Obama has not yet achieved the goal of privatizing social security and medicare in the name of “reform”. Not for lack of trying and no doubt the same money people supporting Hillary can’t wait to see it done when she is elected.
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Yes. Hillary was forced to admit by Bernie that she will not raise income contribution cap. That means cuts in SS down the road.
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Hillary’s husband would have accomplished the privatization of Social Security if not for a stain on a blue dress. This country is indebted to Monica Lewinsky.
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Excellent history lesson, Joel…so glad you joined in.
And an important reminder, Dienne, thanks. Yes, not only might we have seen the end of Social Security, and Medicare, but also our retirement accounts would all be in the hands of the hedge fund managers and the Wall Street touts. People are avoiding recognizing the early and huge friendship between the Clintons (not only with Eli Broad, and with Monsanto) and the CIA leader and President Papa Bush which has led in large part to their personal wealth. Billy could have expanded Baby Bush policies beyond his sell out to Phil Gramm and the Repubs with snuffing Glass Steagal, if he had not been distracted by indictment for staining Monica’s dress and then lying about it….distracted by his concentration on figuring out “what is, is???” Perhaps Henry Hyde and Star did the Dems a favor after all.
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Dienne,
Monica Lewinsky has always struck me as far more Presidential than any of the people we have had in office in recent decades.
Certainly far more Presidential than Bill.
But the Blue dress will always get you. No doubt about it.
And we can also thank Linda Trip for convincing Monica to save it (the stain, that is)
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“has become the government of the Oligarchs and Plutocrats and the corporations they control”
And that my friend is the classic definition of fascism.
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I think Donald Trump is appalling- a rude blowhard who is incurious and almost pathologically full of himself but we should maybe stop blaming mysterious forces for how these people come into power- millions of people vote for them.
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” if you just take that one illustration and get it on radio, and get it on television, and get it on . . . in the pulpits, and get it in the meetings, get it every place you can, pretty soon the fellow that didn’t do anything but follow—drive a tractor, he’ll say, “Well, that’s not right, that’s not fair.”
That was LBJ to King . The American people will do the right thing when there is leadership that guides them to it. Those Millions voting for Trump are sending a message .
They are seeing decline not on the Radio or the TV but in their living rooms . One party nominates a Billionaire Demagogue and the other a candidate so flawed, so tied into the corpocracy that if she gets elected we will be viewing Trump as a moderate 4 years from now.
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“This is the most crucial presidential election of my lifetime.”
Personally, I think ’68 tops this one by far. Not only in the potential consequences as epitomized by the Viet Nam war fiasco but the sheer apparent lunacy of the times. Think of everything that went down that year. This year isn’t even close in my mind. While I was only 13 at the time even 13 year olds had a pretty scary view of what was going on in the country then, with having brothers, neighbors, relatives being drafted and for some dying in Viet Nam.
My hope is that we can begin to approach that year and all its activism, boycotts, marches (I marched in the MLK assassination protest march in St. Louis-eye opening indeed), anti-establishment movements, etc. . . but hopefully without the accompanying violence that was mainly perpetrated by that “establishment”.
Even Dick Nixon got involved with the craziness with his “Sock it to me” on the Laugh-in show!
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Perhaps it’s time to think about the elections themselves, isn’t it? If a presidential election can have such dire consequences to the country and to the world, perhaps the problem is with the enormous power of the presidential office.
In general, it’s time to curb the enormous power individuals can have.
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And I’m not so sure that the person in the presidential office really does have that much power and/or authority. The real power resides with those who have the money to influence those in authority. (power and authority not being the same thing)
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Unfortunately, it has already happened with the election of Obama. The difference is, he’s YOUR dictator, so you support him no matter what the legislation or executive order. You have already been supporting fascism, but it is liberal progressive fascism. Obama created Trump. Blame yourselves.
And who are the Democrats offering as an alternative? Hillary? Bernie? Not much of a choice, either of them vs. Trump. Outvote the Trumpians if you can. If you can’t, hang on for the ride.
Personally, I think Trump will be better for public education than Obama-Duncan, and no worse for the economy than Bill Clinton. That makes support of Hillary rational, if she really will let Bill be her economy guy.
J. H. Underhill
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“Unfortunately, it has already happened with the election of Obama.”
Yep, don’t call him the Obomber for nothing!
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Remember he signed the death warrant and on an American citizen (with some collateral damage of that citizen’s cousin) whom his minions executed without any judicial proceedings whatsoever. And no, an executive branch inquiry is not a judicial proceeding.
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The article is very clearly explains the problems surrounding Trump, and the historical context and analogies ring true. The author much be a historian, isn’t he?
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Kagen may be correct, but as one of the chief neo-con architects of the attack on Iraq in 2003, he is the pot calling the kettle black. Kagen was part of the Project for a New American Century. His wife, Virginia Nuland, played a key role in the coup d’etah that overthrew Ukraine’s government.
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William,
If even a neocon finds Trump scary, then be very afraid.
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Wow.
Rick Lapworth presents a litany of the kinds of things that conservatives – Christian conservatives – believe but that hold little, if any, water. Given what Lapworth writes, it’s pretty reasonable to assume that since he’s not a Trump supporter, given the choice, he’d pick Ted Cruz. And Cruz is one mean, nasty, man.
Let’s look at Lapworth’s commentary.
First, he says that Roe v Wade “derived from the freedom to murder.” Actually, it derived from the Constitution and the right to privacy which is found there in amendments 1, 3, 4, 5, and 9. Lapworth’s belief about abortion and “murder” is purely religious, and he’d like to force that religious belief on everybody, despite the fact that religions disagree about when human life begins, and “those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus” either.
We do not have “socialized medicine.” Yet. Most every other developed nation does. And they pay far less for universal health care than we do. What’s worse is that we get less in the way of care than do others. Health premiums go up – “skyrocket,” to use Lapworth’s terms – precisely because we do NOT have socialized medicine.
Here’s what helps to drive health care premium increases; the scam is paid for by taxpayers, but the immense profits are very real:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-19/the-real-reason-big-pharma-wants-to-help-pay-for-your-prescription
In a weird paragraph, Lapworth suggests that sex is “licentious” and leads to some kinds of unmentioned ills for which “Obama-Care [will provide] affordable treatments.” And he’ll have to pay for it. Sheesh.
Lapworth insists that we – all of us – live in a “Republic ‘under God’ .”
I suppose he got that from the the Pledge of Allegiance, which was written originally by a socialist Christian minister who believed in “the rights of working people and the equal distribution of economic resources, which he believed was inherent in the teachings of Jesus.” When he wrote the Pledge, it id not contain the term “under God.”
Perhaps Lapworth should read the Preamble to the Constitution, which reads:
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
There it is, the reasons – the rationale – for the Constitution. Mutual defense and domestic peace. “To form a more perfect Union.” Justice. Freedom(s), for all. To “promote the general welfare.”
Conservatives have turned their backs on the Constitution. It’s evidenced every day. Look at what Sam Brownback has done in Kansas. Or what comes out of the Oklahoma legislature. Or what Republicans are doing in North Carolina. Or in Lapworth’s home state of Florida.
If you really want to “return good for evil,” better stop hanging out with evil.
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It’s not just the Constitution they ignore. Christian conservatives have a bad habit of ignoring the parts of the Bible that they don’t find compatible with their extremely conservative beliefs. And they generally profess to believe that every word of the Bible is true and should be followed. Apparently not, only the parts they like.
Mahatma Gandhi was once asked what he thought of Christianity. He replied, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
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Sorry, but Joel Herman gone to the extreme in castigating Obama and Hillary Clinton (which is his right). But his history is more than a bit off.
It’s pretty difficult to undo in 8 years that damage that’s been perpetrated for three decades.
The hollowing out of the middle class began when Reagan took office.
As Kevin Phillips pointed out in The Politics of Rich and Poor, supply-side policies –– defined and characterized by the goal of proliferating the rich by cutting upper-bracket taxes –– ascended under Ronald Reagan. Phillips noted that under Reagan, “corporate tax rates were reduces and depreciation benefits greatly liberalized. By 1983 the percentage of federal tax receipts represented by corporate income tax revenues would drop to an all-time low of 6.2 percent, down from 32.1 percept in 1952 and 12.5 percent in 1980.”
Meanwhile, Reagan and the supply-siders were waging tax war on the middle class. For middle income citizens, Social Security taxes doubled. “Under Reagan…the clear evidence is that the tax burden on rich Americans as a percentage of total income SHRANK substantially because of the sweeping rate cuts…families below the top decile, disproportionately burdened by Social Security and excise increases and rewarded less by any income tax reductions wound up paying HIGHER effective rates. The richest families paid lower rates, largely because of the sharp reduction applicable to nonsalary income) capital gains, interest, dividends and rents).”
The net result of Reagan’s tax policies, as Philadelphia Daily News reporter Will Bunch wrote in The Post about a year ago, was this: “While wealthy Americans benefitted from Reagan’s tax policies, blue-collar Americans paid a higher percentage of their income in taxes when Reagan left office than when he came in.” Indeed, by the early 1990s. “rather than being an egalitarian society, the United States had become the most economically stratified of industrial nations.” Here’s a hint: you can’t blame that on Obama, or Hillary.
Bill Clinton – to a significant degree –– reversed supply-side policy. He raised taxes on the wealthy (without a single Republican vote of support…not one). All citizens, bottom to top, did better under his tax policies. The nation did too; the size of government was reduced, budgets were balanced and budget surpluses were used to start paying down the supply-side generated pile of debt.
George W. Bush resurrected supply-side policy..Budget deficits started immediately. Bush, in fact was so focused on his 2001 tax cuts (more followed in 2003) that he ignored (repeatedly) warnings on terrorist threats in the United States (see, for example: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/index.htm
We all know that Obama has been pretty busy cleaning up after Bush’s Great Recession. Has it been perfect? No. As Herman notes, the banks are up to “business as usual.” Sort of. They’ve been curtailed by the Dodd-Frank Act. By better SEC enforcement. By the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. By credit card reform. Bu student loan reform.
I agree that Race to the Top was grossly misguided. Obama’s pick to head the department of education – Arne Duncan – was, as far as I can tell, a disaster. Sadly, Obama is like a lot of other “smart” people when it comes to education: he thinks the SAT and AP courses are important. He buys the STEM “crisis” myth. He has subscribed to the test-scores-lead-to-economic-competitiveness nonsense.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in my state primary because he’s saying things that need to be said, even if many of his proposals lack an adequate funding base. But I’m prepared to vote against Donald Trump in November, and I remember what all those Nader votes in 2000 helped to do to bring Bush to the presidency.
Not again.
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A big fan of Kevin Philips and not for his Southern Strategy. I prefer “BAD MONEY ” his description of the decline of empire when the financial sector grows too much in influence . Believe me I am no fan of Ronald Reagan . May he rot in hell with Nancy . That said
Bill Clinton did not reverse the supply side policies of Reagan , The 1986 tax reform act cut taxes from the 60% level to roughly 33% for top earners . But it also treated capital gains as income . Bill Clinton comes in and raises that top rate to effectively 39% hardly a reversal of Reagan cuts . However in 1997 he cuts the gains rate to 20% from 28% A huge!!!!!!!!! supply side cut . Hint ,but you no this Income does not count . The wealthy do not work for a living their wealth is in Gains
As for the Miracle economy it was a bubble . Two bubble one in the “Irrational Exuberance” (Noble prize winner Robert Schiller) of a market bubble as wages were stagnant for the working class
and then the housing bubble cause by the deregulation of derivatives which collapsed on top of hapless Bush and the American people . . thanks Bill .
While we are on books I could recommend “The Great American Stickup: How Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats Enriched Wall Street While Mugging Main Street” by Robert Sheer .
Perhaps you should also read Michelle Alexanders take down of Clinton policy . Increasing extreme poverty with the Welfare reform bill .Solving prime working age Black unemployment by taking black youth off of the welfare line and on to the soup line at Americas private prisons .Giving this Nation the largest prison camps in the world.
But the shorter article you should read is
“Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult ” by Mike Lofgren
“What do the Democrats offer these people? Essentially nothing. Democratic Leadership Council-style “centrist” Democrats were among the biggest promoters of disastrous trade deals in the 1990s that outsourced jobs abroad: NAFTA, World Trade Organization, permanent most-favored-nation status for China. At the same time, the identity politics/lifestyle wing of the Democratic Party was seen as a too illegal immigrant-friendly by downscaled and outsourced whites.[3]
While Democrats temporized, or even dismissed the fears of the white working class as racist or nativist, Republicans went to work. To be sure, the business wing of the Republican Party consists of the most energetic outsourcers, wage cutters and hirers of sub-minimum wage immigrant labor to be found anywhere on the globe. But the faux-populist wing of the party, knowing the mental compartmentalization that occurs in most low-information voters, played on the fears of that same white working class to focus their anger on scapegoats that do no damage to corporations’ bottom lines: instead of raising the minimum wage, let’s build a wall on the Southern border (then hire a defense contractor to incompetently manage it). Instead of predatory bankers, it’s evil Muslims. Or evil gays. Or evil abortionists.”
Funny that was written in 2011 Lofgren was a prophet He predicted Trump before Obama got reelected Gee
Oh pitty poor Obama he has had it so rough . Well you no how i Feel about Nancy and Ron . But wait even Ron sent 1000 bankers to trail in the much smaller savings and loan crises .
“Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time”
“You can’t get rich in politics unless you’re a crook.”
Harry S Truman
What do you say about that Bill and Hill
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Bill Clinton in 1992 was preferable to George H.W, Bush, and in 1996 he was a better choice than Bob Dole (Jack Kemp was his VP running mate, and Kemp was wedded to more supply-side nonsense).
Obama in 2008 was a far better choice than John McCain, and 2012 he was a much better pick than Mitt Romney.
In 2016, it’s not even close. Hillary Clinton is a better choice for president than Trump. Far better. And I’m not a Hillary fan.
It’s not a perfect world, Joel. Bill and Hillary were/are far from perfect. But we as a country will be better off with Hillary than with The Donald.
Do you really disagree?
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Regarding Clinton. Everything that happened during his presidency cannot be blamed on him alone. The president of the United States does not have unlimited power. In fact, the Resident can’t pass laws, and during most of Clinton’s presidency he had to deal with a GOP majority in both houses.
I’ve read others that blame Clinton for the law that was passed that eventually led to the 2007-08 global financial crises. Clinton later said he regret ed signing that law, but has any of those Clinton bashers checked to see how many members in both houses of Congress voted for that law? Do those bashers know that a president can’t veto a law that has the necessary two-thirds vote of each house, and pocket veto has limitations.
Who voted for and against the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act.
Glass-Steagall was designed to prevent exactly the kind of collaboration that brought us the Goldman-Sachs fraud. Glass-Steagall was repealed in 1999 by a Republican-controlled Congress who pushed for the passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill.
Senate Vote
In the Senate, 53 Republicans and 1 Democrat voted to repeal Glass Steagall.
In the House 207 Republicans and 155 Democrats voted for the repeal. 5 Republicans and 51 Democrats voted against repealing the Glass Steagal.
While the supporters behind the repeal of Glass Steagall did not have a two thirds majority in the Senate, they had way more than two thirds in the House.
Only both Houses of Congress can change, repeal or create laws. Yet the only one who is blamed is Bill Clinton because he didn’t even attempt to veto the repeal of Glass Steagall. If the GOP had never bought the bill to the floor, there would have never been a 2007 global financial crises.
Despite what many people believe, Glass-Steagall was not technically repealed in 1999, but it was effectively neutered. Legislation was passed that year that allowed bank holding companies to engage in previously forbidden commercial activities, such as insurance and investment banking.
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“I remember what all those Nader votes in 2000 helped to do to bring Bush to the presidency.
Not again.”
If you play politics, you get politics.
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I will note vote for Hillary ,while a part of me secretly hopes she defeats Trump . However I do not believe that will happen . . Dismal democrats empower the right and republicans. I am basically a coward with too much to lose
However I can no longer bring my self to vote for or campaign for those who enable the right. I say coward because crash and burn is probably the fastest way to start a new .
Obama had that moment he had a mandate in congress as well . He blew it . Because he was not who we thought he was. The choice we are faced with unless Hillary and the corporate cabal that has become the Democratic Party , gets the message loud and clear, is death by a thousand needles or death by Republican . One has a possible rebirth out of the ashes the other does not . She puts Warren on the Ticket I would have to Vote for the Woman who has made a career out of talking about the dysfunctional economy ,Hillary could come along for the ride .
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I need an edit button
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A conservative court could do a lot of damage for decades to come. I may not like or trust Hillary, but Trump scares the bejeezus out of me. He is totally unpredictable and likely to drag into Congress even more far right legislators who are more likely to try to tie themselves to his coattails, not to mention what he could do to the Court. Our government functions better when the checks and balances between branches actually work. Bernie’s championing of the “common man” is likely to empower the progressive wing of the Democratic party whether he is President or not.
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If an abortion is not murder, then I suppose a baby is not a person. Do I have that right?
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Harlan, a fetus is not a baby and a fetus is not a person. Using the term “baby” to describe a fetus that is mostly aborted in the first 13 weeks was obviously a misleading propaganda move to create visual images in the minds of ignorant, emotional, easy to fool people who then imagine a full term baby that feels pain and is aware of its own existence being murdered when a fetus is aborted.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that 66 percent of legal abortions occur within the first eight weeks of gestation, and 92 percent are performed within the first 13 weeks. Only 1.2 percent occur at or after 21 weeks (CDC, 2013)
The average baby at nine months is more than 19 inches long and weights nearly 7 pounds (112 ounces). At the end of the first 8 weeks, the fetus is about the size of a kidney bean. At 13 weeks it is about 3 inches long and weights nearly ONE ounce.
The third trimester is brimming with rapid development of neurons and wiring. Baby’s brain roughly triples in weight during the last 13 weeks of gestation, growing from about 3.5 ounces at the end the second trimester to almost 10.6 ounces at term. A fetus starts to develop the sense of touch around 8 weeks.
When does the fetus feel pain? “A synthesis of available evidence was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2005 by experts from the University of California, San Francisco, and elsewhere, and their report concluded: “Evidence regarding the capacity for fetal pain is limited but indicates that fetal perception of pain is unlikely before the third trimester.” The third trimester begins at 27 to 28 weeks from conception.”
When does Consciousness Arise in Human Babies?
“Consciousness requires a sophisticated network of highly interconnected components, nerve cells. Its physical substrate, the thalamo-cortical complex that provides consciousness with its highly elaborate content, begins to be in place between the 24th and 28th week of gestation. Roughly two months later synchrony of the electroencephalographic (EEG) rhythm across both cortical hemispheres signals the onset of global neuronal integration. Thus, many of the circuit elements necessary for consciousness are in place by the third trimester. By this time, preterm infants can survive outside the womb under proper medical care.”
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/
It is arguable, with solid scientific evidence, that an abortion decision made by a real female person who is a full grown woman capable of getting pregnant and giving birth is a person who is capable of deciding that she doesn’t want to have a child at that time in her life, and it is not murder because the ONE ounce fetus that is about 3 inches long feels no pain and is not conscious of its own existence and can not survive outside of the mother’s womb. When does a fetus become human? I think that a fetus becomes human when it becomes conscious of its own existence and is capable of feeling pain. If abortion is murder, then it is only murder during the 3rd Trimester. That means about 1% of all abortions might be murder.
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You lay out the pro-abortion argument very clearly, Lloyd. I’m not for repealing Roe v. Wade. Abortion has to be legal, in my view. However, I just can emotionally accept your rational for keeping 1st and 2nd trimester abortions legal on demand. The full term baby is inherent in the one cell fertilized ovum. If we want that ‘person’ we call it a baby. If we don’t want it, we call it a fetus. I can’t exactly make an intellectual argument about it, but it certainly is clear that aborting a fetus is a killing. Would you agree to that? It is a legally permitted killing, and as I say above I accept Roe v. Wade as settled law. But it is still a killing. The only question is a killing of what? When I cut my fingernails it’s not a killing. Even when I snip off a hang nail of flesh, that’s not a killing. But an abortion is a killing.
If a fetus were really nothing more than a hangnail piece of flesh, then there wouldn’t be all this brouhaha about regulating when it is permissible legally to kill the fetus. Now, there are four types of killing, only the first two of which are called homocide. There is a killing of a human being with malice aforethought. That’s 1st degree murder. Then there is the killing of a human being in unpremeditated passion. That’s 2nd degree murder. Then there is killing of a human being by negligence of a duty. That’s called manslaughter. And finally there is the killing of a human being by accident. That’s still a homocide, but not one for which one is subject to criminal penalties.
As I reflect on where the abortion of a fetus fits best on this grid of four levels of homocide, it seems to me that an abortion is closest to 1st degree murder. That is why people who take your position MUST argue that the fertilized and developing ovum is not a ‘real’ person, just a clump of cells until is is old enough to feel pain and become aware of itself.
Yet, at the end of all the arguments, it seems to me that an argument such as yours refutes itself. The elaborate way the developing fetus has to be depersonalized showss to me that we all really know that an abortion is the deliberate, planned taking of a human life, and that we allow the mother the privilege of doing so without prosecution and criminal penalties because the developing fetus may have in fact come into existence through sex that we don’t want to blame the girl for.
But I think we ought not to be such hypocrites as to argue that WHAT is killed legally by its mother is not something pretty close to being a human being. In ancient times, before modern medecine, parents who wanted a child dead had to wait until it was born and THEN expose it on a mountain so wolves or bears could it the baby. But there was never any question that infanticide was the deliberate and planned killing of a human being, no matter what the justification might have been for doing so.
So when I used the term “murder” to name an abortion, I was not being quite as tendentious as you might have though. Sometimes in human affairs it is necessary to kill human beings, on the battle field, in prison executions, in self-defense, and those killings are permitted and not prosecuted. Same with abortions, in my view. I hold that they truly the killing of a human being, but a permitted killing by the mother only of her baby, for her own good reasons. She is permitted to murder her human person baby and pay no penalty. The ONLY reason she can get away with it is that the human being she kills is so much less power than she does. She’s big. Her baby is teeny tiny. It seems to me to be merely a matter of power differential, protected by law.
If a fetus were not a human being from the moment of conception there would never be such a tortured structure of law erected to protect the murderer from having to pay any penalty. From my point of view then, your clear and elaborate explanation of the non-person hood of a fetus up until a certain point in its development betrays a full understanding of the ethical and legal position you are arguing against.
We were all such a fetus once. Out of that single fertilized cell developed us, perfect in every way, toes, ears, eyes, and nose. We are just lucky our mothers wanted us.
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NOTICE: I WILL DELETE ALL FUTURE REFERENCES TO ABORTION
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CORRECTION: Now, there are four types of killing, only the first two of which are called murder.
P.S. It’s your blog, Diane. You can delete and censor to any extent you want. There has been some other recent deleting and censoring about other topics out there in the wide world. I would have thought you wouldn’t have wanted to do that on your own blog.
However, I understand why. I’m not bothered by your doing so. It is SUCH a violently contentious issue, going to the depths of our souls.
In any case, when Trump is elected President, I don’t think he will spend any time on it, but his supreme court picks just barely might, though even there I don’t think so. Roe v. Wade really is, or should be, settled law.
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