Jeanette Deutermann, parent leader of Long Island Opt Out, explains here why she will not allow her children to take the state tests. The interesting question she raises is, why are public officials and the media so desperate to compel students to take these tests? The tests provide no useful information to teachers or parents. Teachers are not allowed to see the questions or the answers. They are not allowed to learn what children do and do not know. The tests have no diagnostic value. The tests have a passing mark set so high that the majority of students are expected to “fail.” What is the point? Why the pressure to force children to take these useless tests?
As the debate over common core, high-stakes testing, and privatizing/profiting off our public schools rages on, one thing is clear: reformers, Commissioner Elia, and the Federal Government still do not quite understand why we opt our children out of high-stakes testing. Strip away all of the rhetoric, all the political battles, the union battles, all the money. What do you have left? A child. A child who, as young as 8, is taken into a room stripped of all wall art and colorful learning tools (as per test administration guidelines) by teachers and school administrators whose normally warm, jovial, and friendly behavior has been replaced by solemn looks of concern. Yes, some concern for themselves (how these children do on these assessments will be published in local papers, go on their permanent records, can make or break their careers, and even close their schools) but most of that concern is for that of their students, their children, whom they are charged with protecting, who are about to be thrown to the wolves. As these youngest learners take their seats, they are given stern instructions that are antithetical to a normal elementary school classroom. No speaking, no noise, no looking around, no asking for help on questions. The child begins to get nervous. This nervousness is making them feel like they have to use the bathroom, but they were just told that going to the bathroom was a big deal. The test begins. They believe this test is very important. Their parents and teachers told them not to worry, that it doesn’t matter, but they know it does. They know their teacher has been preparing them for it all year. They desperately want to please their teachers and parents. They begin reading the questions. They don’t understand what they are reading. (The reading passage is three grade levels above their own). They don’t understand the questions either. There seems to be two right answers for every question. Panic creeps in. A classmate begins crying. This causes another to cry. The teacher tries to calm them down, but the teacher herself has tears in her eyes as well. Two hours go by while the child struggles to complete questions that were designed to fail 70% of her and her classmates. She has a special education classmate that will have to endure a grueling 3 hours or more of testing, as he has double time for testing. The test is finally over. Unfortunately this is just one day. This child will have to repeat this event 5 more times over the next two weeks. The teacher doesn’t bother with normal instruction over these two weeks. The children just can’t endure any more.
Some children experience the stress of the looming tests for weeks and even months leading up to the tests. Parents report lack of sleep, stomach pains, and anxiety symptoms from their usually well-adjusted children. Some just feel the filtered down stress that is all too common in today’s classrooms as teachers are being held under a microscope while under constant attack from those looking to replace them with non-union Teach For America trained temps. Some react during homework, especially those in districts that continue to use confusing, poorly written, purposely convoluted modules. Parents are tired of hearing “I’m stupid”, “I don’t want to go to school anymore”, “I’ll never be able to do this”. Other parents refuse because of the change from a whole child education, in which arts, music, play, science, social studies and creative learning dominate the day, to one in which ELA and math prep have taken over. Most see that as detrimental and harmful to their children’s well being, perhaps with even more long-term damaging effects than the tests themselves.
You can begin to understand why a parent, ANY parent, might say “enough”. So while opting out has turned into a tool of resistance to fight back against harmful policies, a loss of local control, the corporate takeover of education and politics, a top down approach to education, and a way to force political officials to listen, at its core is the simple primal act to protect our children. The Federal Government, Commissioner Elia, and corporate funded groups like High Achievement believe that clever marketing strategies will fix the problem and get parents to forget all about the harm done to their children each and every day. They believe a few tweaks here and there should cause us to throw our children back into the shark tank of good intentions. When that doesn’t seem to work they switch gears and simply try to threaten. We have heard these threats before. Again, there is a disconnect to the understanding of what we are motivated by. Financial bribes or threats could never convince me to put my children in harm’s way.
So what can the Federal Government or State Education Department do to prevent opt outs? Not much. Parents are not their employees, and our children are not their property. They can force school officials to offer the test to every single student. Oh wait! They already do that. Every single student in New York State was offered the NYS assessments in 2015. 240,000 of them said “no thank you”, and declined to pick up a pencil. As much as it befuddles and confuses the State and Federal Education Departments, the simple reality is there is NOTHING they can do about a student who refuses to pick up a pencil and a parent who encourages, directs, and supports that action. Actually, I’m incorrect. There is something they can do. They can restore testing times to pre-reform assessments times. Two 70 minute assessments, administered in fourth grade and eighth grade. They can reverse course on common core, instead allowing educators in each state to create challenging, appropriate, and research based standards. They can allow educators to create tests so we can test what is taught rather than teach what is tested. They can remove student performance assessment measures from the evaluation system. VAM (value added measures) have been thoroughly researched and found to have no impact on improving student learning or reducing the achievement gap. They can provide alternate pathways to graduation for our special education students. Finally, they can bring equity to our schools. The achievement gap is a result of one single factor: poverty. Funding, not testing, is the only way to improve learning outcomes for our most vulnerable and highest needs children. Smaller class sizes, materials, support staff, and community school models will do what no test ever could.
My advice to Commissioner Elia and the United States Department of Education? Don’t try to stand in the way of parents protecting their children. It won’t end well. Our children are our number one priority. What’s yours?

Thank you for the honest comments from a parent’s perspective. Children should not be used as a political football. Parents have the right to protect their children!
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I recently resigned after 15 years of teaching, and standardized testing was the reason. Politics and money have corrupted public education.
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Peter Greene’s take; brilliant as usual.
http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2016/04/8-reasons-to-opt-out.html
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Bravo, Jeanne!
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So these children are taken into a room and told “No speaking, no noise, no looking around, no asking for help on questions,” and oh, also, they shouldn’t be asking to go to the bathroom.
Does anyone else think that this basically sounds like the every-day experience of kids in Eva Moskowitz’s Success Academies and the other so-called “no excuses” charter schools? Guess those no excuses schools are trying to “prepare” those children for the testing environment in more ways than one.
This does nothing to help the children learn, grow, develop, and flourish. It also doesn’t help the teachers find out anything that would help them teach their students, and it doesn’t help the parents.
So what’s the point of the whole thing? To punish the public schools and the teachers, to provide a pathway to charterize/privatize the schools, to provide opportunities for companies to sell their software and curricula? This is why we’re abusing our kids?
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Diane,
You state “Tim, I bet the countries that spend less on education don’t have money wasted on hordes of consultants, data analytics, parasitic charters, turnaround consultants, and for-profit vultures.”
If you can substantiate your statement (I do not believe you can), the large amount of money in New York State (twice the national average) is wasted by the democratically elected school boards. Have you considered looking into the spending in New York State school system from the point of view of large scale fraud?
Other states spending half as much as New York State have the same or better outcome in terms of the NAEP test results.
This is fraud in a large scale in the public school system and you and your followers need to do something about it soon instead of attempting to bad mouth the messenger. Please do not use the well worn argument that there is “Extreme Inequity” as the reason for the poor performance of public schools New York State.
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It’s amazing to me that ed reform didn’t offer anything BESIDES testing. If they had been able to approach parents and offer some kind of benefit, something to go along WITH the testing, they might have net with less resistance. A compromise, something like “you’ll get these tests but we’ll restore the funding you lost” or “with the tests will be a new commitment to offering children stuff they like and are interested in at school”.
The only time they mention public schools at all is during “testing season”, where they roll out the stern lectures and scolding. After 20 years one would think they would have established some kind of productive, positive dialogue on something OTHER than testing, good will they could then draw on when imposing a new test, but they have nothing.
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“…but we’ll restore the funding you lost”
This particular parent’s district is spending nearly $33,000 per child for the current school year.
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Does Tim have a clue?
Cost per pupil in a large urban district as you report it is more than deceptive.
Playing with numbers again Tim? Or, are you truly clueless?
So a sixth grade class of 30 students requires an expenditure of $1,00,000 to operate for 10 months? Primary teacher salary: $80K? Special area teachers $40K? Administrative costs $20K? The remaining $860K for school supplies?
You continue to embarrass yourself Tim.
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Your bullying and gaslighting aren’t going to work here.
Per-pupil spending is the time-honored and accepted comparative measure of school funding. It is indicative of the many non-negotiable expenses required to operate a school district, not merely Mrs. Brown’s second grade class.
The district in question is not a big-city district. It is one of the many dozens of small districts on balkanized and highly segregated Long Island. It is spending $33,582,394, or $32,859 per student, to educate 1,022 students, only 2% of whom are ELLs, 12% of whom have a disability, and 7% of whom are economically disadvantaged.
Tale the “our schools are starved of resources” argument to a conversation involving a different state. It doesn’t apply anywhere in New York.
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“Take the ‘our schools are starved of resources’ argument to a conversation involving a different state. It doesn’t apply anywhere in New York.”
Not anywhere in NY? So in your view, every single one of the nearly 700 school districts is just swimming in a sea of cash? Now that’s clueless.
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The median school district budget in NYS for the 2015-2016 school year provides $23,370 per student, more than twice the national average. The lowest-spending district, General Brown in beautiful Jefferson County, spends $14,012, still far above national averages. Like NY’s other “low spending” districts, General Brown is located in a region where the cost of living is dramatically lower than downstate.
The issue isn’t whether districts are “swimming in cash.” My kids attend traditional public schools in New York City, so I’ve bought plenty of the basic supplies — toilet paper, copier paper, etc — that there is somehow no money for in a $28 billion, $26,000/student budget. The issue is whether taxpayers are ponying up a sufficient amount of money to operate a successful and well-resourced public school system. In New York State that answer is an emphatic “yes” times 700.
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Poot dim-tted Tim feels bullied, and how ironic is that since he is usually the bully.
Tim, your number slie because you lie and are tweaking them by using accounting tricks and by omitting other lenses on PPS.
Get a life and move out of your parents’ basement apartment.
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No, Tim, the issue is not whether tax payers are ponying up enough taxes. The issue is whether wealthy tax payer and wealthy corporations are ponying their fair share.
Notice how Tim uses “pony up” as an expression left over from the rugged, individualist, wild wild west. How NOT ironic, as usual when it comes to Tim.
Other countries tax their citizens equitably, much unlike the USA.
Also, you mention PPS in some districts but FAIL to – hint hint – mention the inflation rate and cost of living in the greater Metropolitan area compared to other low cost low tax states, such as Florida and North Carolina. You fail to mention how PPS includes educator healthcare packages as part of their compensation package and that if we had a single payer system and a system that can shop around for drug prices from other sources other than big Pharma here, that the savings should be used to finance, in part, our schools, thus lowering your egregious tax bill, as you have often claimed outright.
(Oh, Hi! I’m Tim and I know nothing about connecting any dots! Wow! Look at me! Look at me not connecting any dots!!!!!! I’m SO cool!)
Tim also neglects to mention – surprise surprise – how the amount of school funding from local property taxes dwarfs the amount we pay in federal tax dollars and how those federal tax dollars barely flow back to our public schools, they way they do in other civilized countries in Europe.
He also fails (forgot or just does not want to part with his informational lollipop) to mention what the Federal government does with our tax money and how it prevents average people like you and me from having excellent schools and how our tax dollars are used to bolster the sycophant corporations, military contractors, and offshore tax havens for big corporations.
Tim, did you forget al of this, or did the surgeons wrongfully and surgically excise your cerebellum? Too much sugar, Tim?
Tim is not into connecting dots.
He only has a fixated focus on his property tax bill, which, in NY City, is nothing compared to municipalities outside of NY City.
Poor Tim . . .
Maybe medication would help? Tim, you can’t shop around too much for most kinds . . ..
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Bob,
Forget about Europe. For starters, NYS spends more than all of them — yup, even with cost of living and health care and currency and the social safety net (as well as leaving out the fact that Europe has a sugar daddy who spends trillions to make sure some really, really bad guys don’t come and take all of Europe’s stuff). Europe’s got a lot of problems, from its banlieues to rampant unemployment to birth rates. I wish them good luck with all that.
Plus, when it comes to equitably funding public schools, we only need to look as far as two neighbors, New Jersey and our comrades in Vermont, to see a better way.
In New Jersey, there is a direct transfer of school tax money from the wealthiest areas to the poorest, the districts formerly known as “Abbott districts.” The good news is that New Jersey has not only some of the nation’s best-funded schools, but that it also received an “A” in funding equity from NPE. The bad news, as one of the lead attorneys and advocates for the court cases that led to the Abbott funding has concluded, is that the funding has mostly not improved outcomes.
Vermont takes the European approach: the state collects 100% of school taxes and distributes them according to student need. What I like about this model is that it helps to decouple school assignment and residence: no need for Vermont communities to conduct scary “where are your papers?” sweeps like the one Ossining did a few years ago.
So if you want to make NY’s system like VT’s, I am totally on board! Much less for Scarsdale and Hastings and Bellmore and a little bit more for NYC and Yonkers and Hempstead. Come on, let’s do this, who’s with us?!?
:crickets from NYSUT, AQE, and all the other various advocates who complain about inequity:
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As I recall, the U.S. government (as in fed + state + local government) spends more on education than most (perhaps all) European countries even on a percentage-of-GDP basis. I also recall that the U.S. government spends more on healthcare than Europe and Canada, again both in absolute terms and as a percentage of GDP. Which is a bit disturbing.
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No charters in Vermont.
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Tim, I bet the countries that spend less on education don’t have money wasted on hordes of consultants, data analytics, parasitic charters, turnaround consultants, and for-profit vultures.
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Robert, you are too hard on Tim. His job is to defend Eva Moskowitz and he often deflects to prove that he is more into social justice than anyone else.
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Sorry Posted it to the wrong place
Diane,
You state “Tim, I bet the countries that spend less on education don’t have money wasted on hordes of consultants, data analytics, parasitic charters, turnaround consultants, and for-profit vultures.”
If you can substantiate your statement (I do not believe you can), the large amount of money in New York State (twice the national average) is wasted by the democratically elected school boards. Have you considered looking into the spending in New York State school system from the point of view of large scale fraud?
Other states spending half as much as New York State have the same or better outcome in terms of the NAEP test results.
This is fraud in a large scale in the public school system and you and your followers need to do something about it soon instead of attempting to bad mouth the messenger. Please do not use the well worn argument that there is “Extreme Inequity” as the reason for the poor performance of public schools New York State.
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Raj,
Richard Rothstein did a study a few years back of the rising cost of education. He concluded that 40% of new costs were attributable to special education requirements. Property taxes are the basis of funding in most states, and they are very inequitable. To compare state averages is deceptive. Money should be allocated based on need, not property value.
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One reason tim is clueless: he just doesn’t do his homework.
Tim says,
“In New Jersey, there is a direct transfer of school tax money from the wealthiest areas to the poorest . . . .”
This interactive map says otherwise:
http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/14/05/15/per-pupil-school-spending/
A choice quote from the article:
“It costs between $8,400 and nearly $100,000 per student to educate and operate New Jersey’s school districts and charter schools, according to new data from the state Department of Education.”
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Sorry to be so hard on Tim, Diane.
But honestly, I have to throw up right now from Tim’s insistence that I forget about Europe . . . . .
What would I know Tim?
Speaking fluent French and Spanish and quit a bit of Italian (enough to communicate vividly and accurately with doctors and nurses in Sicily last summer when I had to take my wife to an excellent public hospital in Ortigia, and did NOT receive a bill because they have nationalized healthcare), and having relatives and friends in Italy and France, what would my knowledge of those cultures vs.Tim’s have to offer?
Having a wife whose uncle was a Senateur in the Assemblée Nationale in Parid . . . What would I know about the French system vs. Dim’s in-depth knowledge of the French system . . . I meant “Tim’s”.
Tim, stand back before some of my vomit lands on you. . . .
Vomit landing on Tim?
I’m sorry, Tim. I don’t mean to be so redundant . . .
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I understand, Robert. Tim needles all of us, while trolling for Eva. I am not sure what he thinks he is accomplishing since he is playing the role of devil’s advocate. One reader refers to him as an Evabot. Not a fun job but someone has to do it.
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Cx:
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Commissioner Elia, our children are our number one priority. What’s yours?
Answer: autocratic, dictatorial power and money – lots of money for Elia and her friends.
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My third grade son opted out in MA today, though his test taking classmates all got to have candy at school, he happily read his books in the library. He said last week his teacher that he loves has been really “grumpy” since testing started at the school, everyone on edge, have to be extra quiet, normal things they do are disrupted. Kids getting some of recess taken away. Teacher telling them she didn’t feel like teaching them science. My son noticed all this and he is nine. Our commissioner keeps coming up with reasons why testing is so important, but there’s no question the testing is not about helping the kids. It’s infuriating that those entrusted with our public education system care so little about the human beings caught in the middle of all this. We won’t give them the data they are obsessed with, we are taking our school system back, we opt out.
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My daughter has never “opted out”; she has however, boycotted NCLB-imposed exams in 3rd, 4th, and now 5th grade. But reasons like the one above have limited appeal beyond those whose children respond that way.
For some parents, the assessments are just part of the current system. Their children don’t cry, they don’t feel stupid, they are not plague with anxiety. The test is boring but uneventful. It might be hard for some, or the questions seem pointless to them. Many parents believe the tests are bullshit, but since their children are not bothered by them, what’s the point in making a stand? (I spoke with one such parent the other night). It is more stressful to have the child boycott than it is to have the child take it.
For others, if their child is fine and they don’t hear from their child or from others at their school about students crying, feeling stupid, or vomiting by their desks, then, as far as they are concerned, the opt-out movement is exaggerating the harm of testing. Children that have test anxiety will have it whether there are NCLB-imposed tests or not. The opt-out movement seems to them motivated by aversion to independent evaluations of their children, opposition to teacher & school evaluations, and concerns of parents with overly sensitive children. And the fact that national civil rights groups and disability advocacy groups support NCLB testing justifies their beliefs that the opt-outers are misguided. Even the term “opt out” makes it sound like an exercise of personal preference rather than a profound educational or political stance. If a school has a dress code, these parent say, should parents be permitted to opt-out their children, so they can dress with less restrictions?
If we were a movement boycotting flawed assessment and accountability systems, our situation might be different. This is a different narrative. Think of all the test-prep expenses before the cost of the exams is even considered. How much do the workbooks that would not otherwise be purchased cost? How much student time is spent completing them and teacher time is spent scoring them? Think of the math lessons that are not taught because the material is not included on the assessments. Remember that testing creates a ceiling on student achievement; once a student has mastered the test-relevant material, there’s no incentive to teach him or her more — it won’t be recognized by the test. Or consider how your child get less attention if he or she is firmly within a cut-score band, but the students on the cusp of moving into the same cut-score band are the ones that get much more attention because their slight movement is the difference between the teacher or school being high-achieving or not. Is that the environment you want your child learning in? Think of how school computer labs are shut down for weeks at a time to accommodate testing in the building. Even for schools with one-to-one computer programs, think of the weeks that the computers cannot be used because the bandwidth for testing cannot be strained by non-testing students using their computers. Or consider how students in front of 20′ high-resolution monitors that can display prompts next to the text fare compared to students on 12′ ChromeBook or 10′ iPad screens who must scroll back and forth — is this really a standardized testing format? Think of how your schools are less interested in a rigorous and broad education and more interested in a data-driven and narrow education.
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CLB, the testing and accountability system is deeply flawed. It is useless. It robs children of instructional time. Its major value is the data mining of students. It has no educational value.
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Tim
April 4, 2016 at 8:06 pm
“…but we’ll restore the funding you lost”
This particular parent’s district is spending nearly $33,000 per child for the current school year.”
Ed reform is national. The Obama Administration pushes the identical set of policies and so does every ed reform lobbying group.
I don’t live in NY and ed reformers have cut public school funding in my state every year since 2009.
Are they just lousy national advocates for public schools or are they laboring under the delusion that the entire country consists of Massachusetts and NY?
I didn’t tell them to push the same policies in every state and city they parachute into- they made that decision.
If you want public school parents to accept your mandates maybe you should stop undercutting our schools, instead of issuing another round of op eds or delivering another stern, patronizing lecture to the “moms” Duncan and others obviously have such contempt for. Hey- weren’t public school parents promised “support” for public schools to go along with this new testing regime? When do you hold up your part of the bargain?
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Bravo! This exactly describes our experience with testing. I don’t understand how anyone thinks the testing structure as it currently exists is beneficial.
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“the issue is not whether tax payers are ponying up enough taxes. The issue is whether wealthy tax payer and wealthy corporations are ponying their fair share.”
Another example of the nearly-universal principle that people who aren’t me should be paying more taxes.
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If, in the next Olympic high jump competition the opening height was determined to be set at 8 feet (the world record for the high jump is 8 feet one quarter inch and it has only been reached by one person) sensible competitors and fans would stay home. A beautiful, graceful, suspense filled competition would never occur.
John KIng and the NY State Board of Regents lost their credibility when they altered the cut scores on the old tests to serve their purposes; introduced Common Core testing before the curriculum had been implemented; first cancelled statewide meetings, then toured the state meeting with but refusing to listen to parental concerns.
No one is opposed to high standards. Folks are strongly opposed to a curriculum and testing regime that was imposed without ever being piloted by a group of people who’s real interest seems to be declaring public education a failure and turning it over to their associates.
Don’t blame parents or teachers for the debacle that has become public education in New York. Hold those who are responsible for this fiasco accountable.
How could the biggest fool I have encountered in a forty year career in education now be ensconced as our nation’s Secretary of Education? King certainly wasn’t asked to clear eight feet on his opening jump!
This is unlikely to end well! Parents need to keep up the fight!
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“In the heart of a child, one moment …. can last forever.”
About this testing …
There is no virtue in making children so brave that they might withstand the idiocy of adults. Nor is there any virtue in lying to children so as to protect adult ridiculousness. And when adults trip over their own commandments and reason away the subtle wounding of children … then they themselves have committed a great sin.
Childhood is an extraordinary moment. It has its own sanctity because it is the maker of first memories … and we make big deals of firsts in our lives. And first memories should never be ugly. Not ever.
But what has become of us? Why have we arrived at this moment when children become fair game in an adult controversy? Instinct tells us never to place children in the middle of a muddle. But here we are … hearing unbelieving tales of adult unfairness that seem such the antithesis of what is expected from the guardians of our children.
Life is a long frustration. The great beauty of maturity is that we learn to keep our cool and to react only to the most insistent frustrations. Adults learn to separate the important from the unimportant … and it prevents us from the nasty human inclination to settle on easy scapegoats … and then to punish the weakest and most vulnerable.
Scapegoats are born of frustrations adults cannot control … and we have loads of frustration surrounding this wretched reform. But frustration is never a green light to exercise a disturbing dominance over the smallest of the small. If that is the first impulse of an adult, then they are in a queer orbit.
Children cut off from pizza parties and ice cream treats because their parents exercised their right of refusal? Little humans in little desks made to sit and stare for hours … in of all places … a school? Children confronted by some towering goliath … insisting that they revoke their parents’ own wishes? What the hell is going on here?
Where is the wisdom in gluing children to desks for hours as they squirm their way through some asinine educational gauntlet that has no real purpose other than to pay homage to some testing god? Who thought that a good idea?
This is a mess that cannot be unmessed. When will we start over … and get this straight?
Is this how children should ever be treated? Are there not school campaigns to disarm bullies … and to champion kindness? Have those champions vanished? Were those just paper heroics? Empty nonsense? I sense adult ugliness seeping through a holy firewall behind which childhood is protected. It seems too many are now comfortable liars … even with children. And worse, some have become hypocrites.
There is never an excuse to scar a child. And if you’re in the child business … that sort of action condemns you to a special sort of hell.
For children, school is a majestic cathedral. A near shrine where every minute should be crammed with as much wonder as a minute might hold. To disturb that atmosphere is to violate the inviolate,
A school has no place or space for anyone unable to plug into their memory bank for recollections of their own childhood. If one cannot stay linked with the memories of their own past, perhaps they shouldn’t be in the memory-making business at all.
When one’s memory of childhood evaporates, so does one’s empathy. And that is a signal to move on.
“Childhood is a short season.” Give it its due.
Denis Ian
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