Florida led the way in creating a system where schools and students are judged by test scores. Florida has seen some test score gains, but it is nowhere near the top of the national field in national examinations. How many hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on testing, accountability, grading, and choice, with little to show for it?
Now parents and educators are at odds about how to straighten out a system that few have faith in. Jeb Bush may say on the campaign trail that he modernized education in Florida, but not many in Florida would agree with him.
The state board of education just agreed to make tests harder to pass, but easier for a school to get an A.
On one side is the business community, demanding higher standards and harder tests. On the other are parents and educators, complaining about the “test-and-punish” strategy. Educators are calling for a total overhaul.
But the biggest problem is:
“the growing lack of confidence in the 16-year-old education accountability system.
“We still contend that our accountability system needs to have another look-see,” said Pasco County school superintendent Kurt Browning, echoing the state superintendents association’s position. “We need to review it in total, not just pieces.”
Groups promoting tougher standards expressed dismay after the board’s vote, suggesting the outcome presents a too-rosy picture of student and school performance. Those who see the current model as “test and punish” were equally disappointed, saying the board stuck to the status quo rather than looking for ways to improve beyond “raising the bar.”
Even board members acknowledged their effort was incomplete. Lacking learning gains data, they asked Stewart to restart the conversation in the summer, after students have completed their spring FSAs.
“New standards, a new assessment, rollout challenges, and an absence of learning gains all impact the results in ways that we can’t predict,” board member Rebecca Fishman Lipsey said. “It seems responsible for us to wait for a second set of more complete data … then step back and ask ourselves if our grading system is set correctly.”
The question of whether school grading accomplishes its stated task of improving schools has long been a focal point of Florida education politics. It came into stark relief in 2013, though, when former education commissioner Tony Bennett — one of the nation’s biggest promoters of accountability and grading — resigned his Florida post over a school grades scandal in his home state of Indiana.
Isn’t it time that the conversation be returned to ne about HOW LEARNING OCCURS and leave the evaluation of whereto or not a child learned the objectives that year, up to the teacher?
I don’t know about how teaching occurs, but I do now what works, at least in physics. For over two decades a number of physics teachers (principally professors) have researched teaching methods, and, especially, designed tests to quantify physics learning. They “do” Physics Educational Research. The first test is the “Force Concept Inventory”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Concept_Inventory
The PER community has a list:
http://www.compadre.org/per/items/detail.cfm?ID=924
Have any readers of Ms. Ravitch’s blog heard this NPR programme?
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/01/144550920/physicists-seek-to-lose-the-lecture-as-teaching-tool
Here’s more about Eric Mazur’s “invention”.
http://mazur.harvard.edu/research/detailspage.php?rowid=8
The PER community writes articles published in the “American Journal of Physics” The majority of recent issues includes such. The most recent is :
“Measuring the impact of an instructional laboratory on the learning of introductory physics”
Carl Wieman and N. G. Holmes
The “The Physics Teacher”, the other American Association of Physics Teachers journal, is for HS and intro college teachers, and also includes PER articles. For example in the current issue:
Active Learning Strategies for Introductory Light and Optics
David R. Sokoloff
Phys. Teach. 54, 18 (2016); http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.4937966
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There is considerable evidence that traditional approaches are ineffective in teaching physics concepts, including light and optics concepts. A major focus of the work of the Activity Based Physics Group has been on the development of active learning curricula like RealTime Physics(RTP) labs and Interactive Lecture Demonstrations (ILDs). Among the characteristics of these curricula are: (1) use of a learning cycle in which students are challenged to compare predictions—discussed with their peers in small groups—to observations of the physical world, (2) use of guided hands-on work to construct basic concepts from observations, and (3) use of computer-based tools. It has been possible to change the lecture and laboratory learning environments at a large number of universities, colleges, and high schools without changing the structure of the introductory course. For example, in the United States, nearly 200 physics departments have adopted RTP, and many others use pre-publication, open-source versions or have adopted the RTP approach to develop their own labs. Examples from RTP and ILDs (including optics magic tricks) are described in this paper.
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This gives me a chance to ask a question I’ve been wondering about.
I see studies that show that standards and increased accountability work, especially for low income students.
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/education/report/2016/01/14/128091/lessons-from-state-performance-on-naep/
http://www.epi.org/publication/bringing-it-back-home-why-state-comparisons-are-more-useful-than-international-comparisons-for-improving-u-s-education-policy/
Yet, I read here that “test and punish” doesn’t work, and of course we see states rolling back common core and testing.
Are there some studies that show the opposite (e.g. NAEP scores increasing as standards get weaker and testing decreases, or NAEP scores decreasing when they do the opposite?)
Thanks.
“Work” to do what? Raise test scores? Who cares?
Dienne,
Do you have a better measure to use, or do you just consider achievement unmeasurable and NAEP worthless?
You got it right… the endless conversation about what is wrong, about TESTING..
The public knows this. What they do no know is WHAT LEARNING LOOKS Like… WHAT MAKES IT HAPPEN, and there sis research out there… real standards for PERFORMANCE effort based achievement… I know..i was the cohort in NYC for it. http://www.opednews.com/author/author40790.html
I wrote this years ago! http://www.opednews.com/articles/Learning-not-Teacher-evalu-by-Susan-Lee-Schwartz-111001-956.html
I am going to copy an paste it to the larger comment here, as I hate when my commentary runs along the side. see it there, Dienne
I’m not trying to be snide, but “measure” of what? Student learning? Teacher effectiveness? School effectiveness? All of those are different things, none of which are measurable and only very generally and very inaccurately assessable. It’s like trying to “measure” a beautiful day or a handsome man. Such things are not unitary qualities – there are too many variables, most of which are subjective. Also, there’s no agreed upon standard unit of measurement.
John, for your information, assuming your questions are intended to be taken seriously, standards do not have any direct bearing on test scores. Scores on standardized tests have been aggrandized as if some objective and gold standard for perfected education. That is absurd.
No test that is designed to measure student learning is instructionally sensitive. That means test scores cannot be causally linked to teachers with any respectable degree of certainty. In addition, no test or assessment that ends with a single summary score does justice to the complexities of learning. You cannot deduce anything about standards from test scores not do test scores tell us anything reliable and valid about standards. Why?
Standards have nothing to do with instruction or curriculum unless standards are written at a level of specificity that makes them suitable for training (not education) or blatant indoctrination. Those two features are appealing to some of the promoters of computer-based instruction where all questions and problems are posed by software designers and paths to “correct” answers to questions and “satisfactory” solutions to problems are known to those who create the software. “Outliers” in student responses become part of the software developer’s ability to tweak and initial pathways to correct answers to questions or satisfactory solutions to problems. All of that is training not education.
I suggest you spend some time at the NAEP website to understand the process of developing those tests.
Note also that “standards for standard-setting” exist but none exist for developing a coherent agenda for education from all the independent standard-setting in various subjects.
Here is a brief indication of THAT problem, proliferating sets of standards with not many interconnections or any overarching philosophy of education, or coherent mission statements other than the spurious claim that all of these standards are supposed to make us economically competitive or get us more time for teaching or whatever.
I have in hand copies of the Common Core standards (1,620 not counting high school), as well as new standards in the sciences (physical,life, earth and space,engineering and technology), the arts (music, dance, theater, visual arts and media arts), social studies (inquiry process supported with evidence and studies in civics, economics, geography, history; optional for high school psychology, sociology, anthropology), physical education, health, financial literacy, social-emotional learning, computer science (to come) and several sets of standards for the practice of teaching (with shameful language), plus standards for the practice of school counselors and school social workers.
So, if states continue policies that say “everything that is taught must be tested” and if everyone claims that “what is not tested is not valued,” look for a return to the three R’s with a vengeance, stripped down education on the cheap with as much programmed instruction as possible as the end game. It is the endgame that seems to be desired by major foundations who harp on the centrality of tests in all things bearing on education.
A functioning accountability system depends on trust, something Florida’s system lacks entirely. https://accountabaloney.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/trust-in-accountability-must-be-earned/
Another EPIC TESTING FAILURE.
All HARM. ZERO good.
15 years of TESTING FAILURE is not enough?
Isn’t Common Core all about supporting claims with evidence?
I rest my case. The evidence for the FAILURE of TEST-BASED reform is conclusive.
But please sir, can we have some more? Just one more test. One more bigger, bolder, badder test. We swear this one will work. Our big, bad test will make turn them into college and career ready critical thinkers. One more try and we promise that Rex will have all the skilled workers he needs at Exxon/Mobil. Just one more test. That’s all we need. Please.
“Double Standard”
Why must students show their steps
Under the Common Core?
While ed officials just quote schleps
And really nothing more?
Florida’s public education is a disaster for the simple reason that our legislature is a cesspool of corruption led by the king of corruption Rick Scott. In Brevard County, we just got a new Superintendent, Dr. Blackburn, who is a very strong opponent of excessive testing, and a huge supporter of his teachers. He is a real breath of fresh air! One of our strongest parent leaders in the OPT OUT Brevard movement is Darcey Addo. She is very knowledgable of the laws regarding testing. She is running for school board on a shoe string budget against an opponent who is backed by Republican senator Rich Workman, a supporter of JEB. I urge anyone to check out her website and email. And give any kind of support you can,www.darceyforschoolboard.com. darceyforschoolboard@gmail.com. She has been mentioned in this blog before and is a tireless fighter.
Jeb Bush modernized education in the same regard that Jackson Pollock modernized art
“The Modernists”
Jeb’s to education
As Pollock is to art
A randomness sensation
That’s really off the chart
sorry I posted that this last links twice… Hate that I cannot go back and edit, as I can when I write at the news site, oped, where I plan to publish this comment as an article, with links back to Diane’s wonderful site, where she has reported on the insanity and chaos that the NCLB act and the EIC’s plans have created.
If any of you, wish to contact ME, just message me at my author’s page
You will fin links to my series, at this link, too, and most of the ones re education are links to Diane’s posts, or to people whom she features. Without her, I could not do what I do, as I am a 74 year old woman, living in the suburbs.
Thank you Diane Ravitch. YOU are alone in this nation as the reporter on what is happening!
http://www.opednews.com/author/series/author40790.html
Reblogged this on 21st Century Theater.
To Dienne, and EVERYONE who is reading the endless conversation about how useless the tests are! LEARNING, SHOULD be the conversation I
BELOW IS A re-edited PIECE written on my site which is now gone, YEARS AGO, but was re-printed at OPED in 2011 FIVE YEARS AGO!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Learning-not-Teacher-evalu-by-Susan-Lee-Schwartz-111001-956.html
l have revised it and it is below..
I think it is Important. I know that I am an important voice of the teachers, the ones that were eradicated in the first assault on tenure in the nineties. http://www.opednews.com/author/author40790.html
I invite you to read it… and REMEMBER that it was written A LONG TIME AGO
(forgive capitals… I use them in the absence of boldface and italics)
LEARNING, NOT TEACHER EVALUATION,
by Susan Lee Schwartz
I for one, have had enough of this rant “to tie teachers evaluation to the tests!
This is a continued attack on the dedicated career professional– the practitioner of pedagogy (facilitating learning in ways in which the human brain actually acquires SKILLS, and knowledge).
It is all about LEARNING, not teaching.
For decades before the government stepped in with its policies to improve education and demand ‘standards’, our public schools produced a fine education for our people. The question to ask, is what changed?
The answer will demonstrate that it was not the quality of teachers, but the interference by non-educators who have no conception of WLLL — what learning looks like, or what the ‘grunt’ on the line, the teacher, or the ‘practitioner’ actually must do to motivate the students to learn.
Teachers have not suddenly become incompetent, the system has changed the practice to confirm to anti-learning agendas, assuring the failure of the public school system.
Endless chatter about how bad the tests are, offers no solution, and will leave all children behind the rest of the world, especially in countries that value their professionals and know what learning looks like. The EIC* rant about ‘ teachers & teaching’ rather than on LEARNING must end, and it is UP TO YOU TEACHERS AND PARENTS. The media certainly won’t. Look how they ignored Bernie Sanders UNTIL HE MADE IT CLEAR TO THE PEOPLE WHAT HE WAS SAYING!
*https://greatschoolwars.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/eic-oct_11.pd
Learning will become narrative, when the conversation about TEACHING & TESTING ends, and then IT IS UP TO YOU, teaching now, to ORGANIZE AND TO DEMAND that conversation BE ENABLED!
One is reminded of the chant that ‘deficit-reduction/austerity’ is what this country needs, when it is the ANTITHESIS of the SOLUTION required to stimulate the economy, and to produce jobs and thus consumer consumption. THIS RANT defunded the schools, first! The ‘ chant’ for bogus evaluation of teachers, has wrought the same destruction on public schools, but this is NOT about schools… IT IS ABOUT AN INSTITUTION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION WHICH IS THE BEDROCK OF INCOME EQUALITY AND OUT DEMOCRACY.
Teachers, like doctors, need to practice the profession for which their education and their intellect has prepared them. My son, the doctor (LOL) has been in a practice for 20 years. Imagine if he was replaced by the equivalent of a TFA novice… a’trained’ medic.
That ‘teacher practice’ is all about ENABLING learning skills, and not SHOWING YOUNG CHILDREN HOW TO memorize information. Experience counts… whites why the experience teachers were sent packing first.
Practitioners FACILITATE learning. “REAL’ teachers don’t merely ‘teach!
‘ Learning’ occurs when conditions are right. Isn’t it time we heard about the real standards for LEARNING?
Why is it in the crucial discipline of education, unlike in medicine, real research can be ignored, and every cockamaime idea is presented as a magic elixir: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Magic-Elixir-No-Evidence-by-Susan-Lee-Schwartz-130312-433.html
Isn’t it time to talk about what was PROVEN TO WORK!
I am doing that here:
During ‘The Clinton 2000 ( his eduction initiative) the Pew trust paid tens of millions to do 3rd level research (i.e. It has to work everywhere!) on the criteria that must be present in all classrooms where LEARNING IS ONGOING! (THIS was the opposite of the NCLB experiment in insanity).
In 12 districts across the nation, teachers were observed for years, and matched to the indicators for “The Eight Principles of Learning”, t based on Dr. Lauren Resnick’s thesis, THEN AT Harvard: http://ramsey.spps.org/uploads/polv3_3.pdf
PROOF EXISTS: I swear, if I had not been the NYC cohort for this, and seen my practice studied for TWO YEARS, and attended seminars with all of the teachers in Manhattan district 2, and seen the final PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, I would think I had been hallucinating. These EXPENSIVE MANUALS, BASED ON THE REAL STANDARDS, reside in my back room.
I intend to bring them to THE NPE CONFERENCE IN APRIL!
YES–> 8 principles/standards —-A REAL RUBRIC— for “learning,’ —>and four of them were DIRECTED at the school ADMINISTRATION. Their support ensures that classrooms are not only properly supplied, but are safe, quiet and conducive to learning. No where are there mandates to be passed down to teachers. The teachers run th practice. The principal keeps the site and organization running!
Yes, assessing teacher competency has always been a requirement. It worked!
Standardized tests were NEVER one of the principles, although there was a single principle regarding GENUINE assessment and AUTHENTIC evaluation.*.. and that one was FOR THE CLASSROOM PRACTITIONER — IN ORDER TO to provide INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHILD’S PROGRESS– so that the teacher CAN CREATE LESSONS — and plan effectively— to reach all the emergent learners…kids!
Those ADJECTIVES are IMPORTANT… because the VAM TESTING is BOGUS!
When teachers enter a classroom with today’s population of students, their hands (and mouths) are ‘tied.’
They cannot do WHAT ALL REAL (i.e. successful) TEACHERS HAVE DONE INTHE PAST –> plan interesting lessons to meet objectives (real performance standards), by judging what is needed, not merely determining what content to memorize! Real teachers THEN usied their experience and knowledge base to MOTIVATE & SUSTAIN THE INTEREST of children. (Teachers also provided materials — many spending thousands, as I did in NYC, to provide classroom supplies and learning materials THAT INTERESTED THE YOUNG MINDS !)
Now, teachers must teach to a test, not provide interesting lessons that stimulate critical thinking and real learning.
The school cultures are too often set by abusive administrators who do nothing to enable learning, but persecute practitioners, and in too many schools, they are lawless bullies with personal agendas. ” Bravery, Bullies, and Blowhards: Lessons Learned in a Montana Classroom” by Lorna Stremcha, is a must read. YOU teachers will recognize what was happening YEARS BEFORE you entered your classroom!
http://www.amazon.com/Bravery-Bullies-Blowhards-Lessons-Classroom/dp/0991309936/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dptop_dn1Avb040EW4Q_tt
How hard is this to grasp? It is NOT the teachers who failed.
CLASSES IN TOO MANY PUBLIC SCHOOLS (NOT MOST CHARTER SCHOOLS,) have large populations of problem students– many disabled learners as well as many kids with behavioral problems — who are ‘mainstreamed’. Teachers cannot teach when dealing with discipline and interferences, becomes the only object, and maintaining order overrides learning objectives. But they are blamed!
Yes, colleges need to better prepare educators to practice; AND poorly performing novices NEED SUPPORT/HELP to manage the students and implement learning objectives that succeed, but classrooms filled to overflowing make it impossible for individual learners to participate, and are filled not merely with distracted, modern, ‘internet-bred’ kids (with low attention spans and little exposure to language or literacy in their childhood,)
Testing means big money for privateers and the race to the top became a race for that money, not to raise our education system BACK to where it was before the experienced teachers fled into retirement. With them gone, teachers were told what to use, what to do, from the top. They are no longer able to facilitate learning under mandates & policies which have placed their lessons for learning with memory tasks.
Storerooms filled with tests and test prep materials, and the practitioner was disabled, no longer able to plan or implement lessons based on the performance of the child, as evaluate in that classroom.
I was at the top of my profession, filmed during that time when I was the cohort, but the CC was waiting in the wings, and Pearson was preparing the tests. MY curricula had to go, even when Stenmore Publications asked ME, to write a book about how I enabled th huge success of my students, who were 3rd in the state on the first ELA standardized tests… while I was in the rubber room, facing charges of incompetence!
MY STORY, is THE story of us ALL… and have crates of EVIDENCE.
Now, the tenured teachers are gone, and their voices silenced about WHAT IT REALLY TAKES TO TEACH CHILDREN SO THEY ACTUALLY ACQUIRE SKILLS! That was the PLAN!
THOSE teachers who do not find themselves sent packing –after their probationary period is over and their salary is about to rise — run for the door, their desire to teach decimated by a system that does not allow them to be the professional in the practice. 80% leave in five years, and THAT is a genuine statistic.
Yes, there needs to be a fair evaluation system because the subjective, destructive evaluation system which allows management to destroy careers through bogus ‘documentation,’ is not working.
“The American Educator” ( WHICH I READ RELIGIOUSLY as should every teacher) reports on the myriad of schools that have solved this problem with realistic evaluation systems, but THE NATIONAL MEDIA and the self-appointed ‘reformers’ and pundits rant on about tying teachers to valueless tests. Pity the poor parent who is clueless about how the human brain acquires skills, but faced with endless noise from the Duncan brigade.
I have written before on the subject of the subversion of the national conversation, and the total blackout of the war on teachers, the real reasons that schools are failing. http://www.perdaily.com/2011/08/subverting-the-national-conversation-a.html
This is a national scandal, and there is a total blackout on the abusive deprivation of due process which allows administration to attack dedicated Americans who happen to be powerless. Grievance processes have failed to protect them, and the media , controlled by those who profit from the failure of public education spread the same propaganda that they use to disable our political process.
Here, is the very tactic they used to take the tenured teacher out. VAM was the 2nd assault –AFTER THEY SAW THAT YOU, dear teacher, had no legal way to protest their incompetence, arrogance or lawlessness in your school.
Many of you have read this which I have posted here often.
http://www.perdaily.com/2011/01/lausd-et-al-a-national-scandal-of-enormous-proportions-by-susan-lee-schwartz-part-1.html
NowREAD THIS, part 2, and know this EVERY WORD IS TRUE.
I DON’T LIE AND I AM A REAL TEACHER, LIKE YOU.
http://www.perdaily.com/2011/01/ordinary-people-who-believe-in.html
I also wrote to an essay on “A Constitutional Scandal” (part one, http://www.perdaily.com/2011/01/lausd-et-al-a-national-scandal-of-enormous-proportions-by-susan-lee-schwartz-part-1.html and part two
http://www.perdaily.com/2011/01/ordinary-people-who-believe-in.html) where Americans who happen to be teachers, are deprived of their right to due process. This is the underlying practice that has emptied the schools and silenced the voices of the professional educator, allowing pundits and self-proclaimed ‘experts’ many of whom ran public school systems (into the ground) to manipulate the media.
http://www.bradenton.com/opinion/editorials/article54898810.html
A local paper’s conservative Republican editorial soeaking out against the insanity.
The newest proposal is to withold money when Algebra I students fail the EOC.
Disgusting. Thank goodness Jeb will not be anywhere near the White House as a resident.
Chris,
Every legislator in Florida should be required to pass the Algebra 1 course or resign
Jeb! knows disarray, look at his campaign failures. He used to be mistaken for the smart brother.