Myra Blackmon writes for Athens Online in Athens, Georgia. This column was posted on Maureen Downey’s “Get Schooled” blog in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Blackmon says that punishment doesn’t work when students lose control and act out.
She writes:
“What works best with these most challenging students is not punishment, but extra support, according to the research. Extra counselors, tutors to help them catch up with their school work and coaching to develop ways to cope with their personal challenges have been shown to make a difference.
With most school guidance counselors expected to support up to 500 students, there is little time to work one-on-one with a troubled student. Growing class sizes make it more difficult for teachers to identify and work with kids who need intervention or extra support.
“As a nation, we are facing a perfect storm created by confluence of three trends, none of which on its own was particularly positive, but which combined generate an explosive atmosphere: zero tolerance, letting rules trump common sense and the militarization of our police forces.
Our communities, and particularly our schools, have gone overboard with zero tolerance policies. A child with a one-inch plastic pistol attached to a backpack zipper gets the same treatment and punishment as one who brings a loaded pistol to school. We all know other instances zero-tolerance has backfired.
“Often, our response to one negative incident is to make a rule that will prevent that same thing from happening again. In a school setting, that trumps a teachers’ judgement, and frequently prescribes a response guaranteed to escalate rather than resolve a situation….
“This over reliance on rules and zero tolerance has also led to the criminalization of what used to be just bad teenage behavior. When I was in high school, every couple of years some idiot would put a cherry bomb in a toilet, or steal a turkey and put it in the school courtyard over a weekend.
“They were caught and punished. They worked to make restitution to the school, or the farmer who was wronged. There were consequences. Most of them learned their lessons and became productive adult citizens. Now our zero tolerance for breaking any rules means that a kid caught doing one stupid thing may have a criminal record. It also takes a “guilty until proven innocent” approach to the discipline of teenagers.
“Finally, much has been written about the militarization of our police forces. Not only are most forces now equipped with far more powerful equipment than is required for ordinary community protection, there are more police officers with combat experience—and the issues that come from that—as a result of our years of war. Of necessity, military training teaches aggressive responses necessary for survival in a combat setting. But it takes more than a few weeks of police training to unlearn those responses, so officers may overreact to situations that could be defused.
“Combine those three, and we have a perfect formula for unnecessary violence in our schools and in our streets.”

Comments made on many talk shows by successful entertainers is that the did poorly in school. We must change our focus and offer broader choices for students that are not college bound.
If as teachers, we want our students to succeed, we must accomodate a variety of choices.
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That’s a big TAGrO for this post.
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Below is an email from Missouri’s Dept of Ed this morning. Kathy Homfeld, dedicated reader, retired teacherFrom: communications@dese.mo.gov To: dese-bulletin@lists.mo.gov Subject: News Release: Renaissance Academy to Pay Back State Education Funds Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:34:58 +0000 The Department has issued the following news release: Renaissance Academy to Pay Back State Education Funds n Approximately $2.6 million to be distributed to KCPS and KC charter schools http://goo.gl/hUzTmZ A Jackson County judge has ordered that Renaissance Academy, a closed charter school in Kansas City, must pay back approximately $2.6 million in state education funds.The K-12 charter school was sponsored by the University of Missouri-Columbia and closed in May 2012. A 2014 audit requested by the Department found that the school continued to spend funds that had been appropriated to provide educational services to students within the Kansas City Public School District. In the 40 months following the closure, Renaissance listed more than $2.5 million in expenditures.The returned funds will be used to provide educational services for students in Kansas City Public Schools as well as charter schools in Kansas City. Renaissance served more than 1,000 students at the time it was closed.“The Department is pleased these funds will go directly toward helping our children in Kansas City,” said Missouri Commissioner of Education Margie Vandeven.All funds were returned to the Department on Oct. 23. ###Thank you,Missouri Department of Elementary and Secondary EducationCommunications | 573.751.3469 | dese.mo.gov Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:03:41 +0000 To: khomfeld@hotmail.com
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My husband has been saying for years that zero tolerance hurt our schools. I believe he was on to something, backed up by this post.
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While zero tolerance rose out of the school shootings, it was brewing for years as a reaction to more competitive job markets, declining resources, dwindling student support systems, and a maniac focus on testing as an end, regardless of the means. Frustration by many parents who value education over the constant impediments to learning created by families who do not, lead to these solutions. Few people in our no-holds barred, winner take all economy have the patience anymore for students who go to school to deal, get high, assault other students, interrupt the classroom, and steal everything that isn’t locked down. I’m all for helping students who are facing a crisis. Just stop impacting my own family’s chances for a good education. We still value learning.
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Gee, isn’t it a strange coincidence that so-called “no excuses” charter schools (which among other things are behavior modification labs for training docile and compliant children and adults) should emerge around the same time as zero tolerance, arbitrary rules and punishment (Hello, Eva Moskowitz!) and militarized law enforcement acting with impunity?
Why, it’s almost as if they are providing the template that their Overclass funders would like to see applied to all children (except their own, of course) in order to develop a passive, uncritical populace that never questions the abuse being heaped upon it.
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Talking about the militarization of our police, John Grisham’s latest novel takes on that issue, and I’m about halfway through and already thinking maybe we should move to Canada because even if the story is fiction, I’m pretty sure a lot of the legal issues and facts he uses as a foundation for the story are not fiction.
http://www.jgrisham.com/books/rogue-lawyer/
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Francis Fukuyama, writing in his Political Order and Political Decay, marks institutional rigidity as part of decay in the system. Zero tolerance is a perfect example of that. What MathVale missies in his comment above is the participation necessary for a democracy to work. I would love to exile all people who do not signal when they drive but what I have to do is support better driver education. We need to promote more counseling access, more general and academic support, and so on rather than excising those students who get in the way of those whose fortune placed them in homes like MathVale’s (BTW, is MathVale the plural of Math Wala – an Indian term?)
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I agree that more resources are needed to reach troubled students. You will get no argument from me on that point. Since you do not know our household or the challenges we face, I will let slide your unfair judgments about our family as a misplaced personal slight. It is sad that you are starting to sound like the very people we argue against in the more conservative blogs and postings. Maybe there is really little difference between Reformers and those that advocate for public education on this blog?
My point is simple. Schools do not have the resources to address disruptive students. Disruptive students take away instructional time and resources from non-disruptive students. The non-disruptive students then have their education hindered and negatively affected. Parents who DO value education grow increasingly frustrated with a model that seems all too willing to sacrifice the families and students who value an education, strive to do well in school, and respect teachers.
There is NOTHING in a democracy that says we must tolerate disrespect, anti-social behavior, violence, stealing, and drugs in our schools.
My other point is a bit of soul searching and an attempt to put aside closed minded obstinacy and consider WHY people are leaving public schools or the teachers are exiting the profession. It should be very obvious that families – rich or poor, white or black, liberal or conservative – are frustrated with the poor behavior from a small group of students and in how it leaches over into the rest of the student population. Patience runs thin.
I support my kid’s public schools. But if it means that they have to continue to continue to be assaulted, victims of theft, dodge drug deals and police raids, be threatened and intimidated, and suffer constant classroom interruptions, then perhaps I am not noble enough to sacrifice my own kids to fit into a particular ideology. So be it.
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Despite what I wrote in the previous blog I agree with this one.
ANY time that people are tightly bound to only one way of thinking or acting, no thinking outside the box so to speak, a dictatorial system has been employed. THAT is what has happened with politicians pushing charter schools, a political solution to a non existent problem.
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Chicago Teens TERRORIZE Substitute Teacher . . . The Poor Teacher Is SCARED TO DEATH . . . She’s Trying To BE STRONG . . . But You See The FEAR IN HER FACE!!
The above videos prove an obvious need for official video and audio surveillance in every classroom which receives public funding (including charter schools). The most common discipline problem is of course, excessive, off task “talking.” While teachers should strive to keep students on task with interesting lessons, variety of activities/strategies etc., students are responsible for their own behavior. Students should understand when teacher is speaking, or expects total silence. Then collaborative group work, onl task student interaction can take place. The surveillance will avoid he said/she said situations, such as student walking out of classroom without permission, then telling principal teacher sent him out, student using foul language, total insubordination, horseplay, etc. It’s all on tape.
Many students are only at school to avoid truancy court. There are at least fewer fights because of ability of campus police to write tickets. Once video/audio coverage inside every classroom is established, fines, maybe $10 per off task talking infraction is levied. $20 for out of seat without permission, and so on. Parents can view tapes. Once fine amount reaches a certain point, they are required to appear in court. Parents are also able to sign consent forms to block students face and audio from media open records requests. As we all know, a student could be recording you at any time anyway, even if phone is in pocket. We teachers should ALWAYS act/speak as if…..
Official coverage in classroom would provide protection for teachers. As it is, there are no consequences for certain sub populations actin’ the fool, bein’ silly. They think they are cool showing out in front of other students by misbehaving, showing disrespect toward teachers. They know they can get away with whatever, particularly certain sub-population who administration is told not to record discipline problems. Fairness should be applied discipline-wise. It will all be on the tape, video and audio.
There is already surveillance in hallways, office, cafeteria, as well as outside perimeter of most schools. Inside the classroom is the next step. This would also provide eyes in the sky during testing.
Oh, and it will show the media, if they care to request tapes, that 99% of teachers work there tails off. Maybe, if students were more accountable, behavior incidents would go way down, teachers could teach, teachers would not burn out and leave the profession.
Any ideas, feedback bloggers?
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After a few incidents where students in my high school English class were throwing spark plugs at each other when I had my back turned, I spent my own money to buy a camera and video surveillance system so I could record what was going on all the time. I bought a camera and was going to install it so no matter what happened, the camera would catch it.
Things can happen very fast and few if any teachers can keep their eyes on every single student in a crowded class of 34 all the time. For instance, if you are on one side of the room talking to a student who asked a question and you’re looking at that student, then another student on the other side of the room in your blind spot can get away with a lot in a heartbeat—like throw a spark plug at someone he doesn’t like on the other side of the room where you are with the student who asked the question, or the intercom phone can ring meaning it’s probably a call from the office or the real phone meaning it could be a call from a parent. The teacher turns to pick up the phone and in that heartbeat the teacher’s eyes are off of the kids.
I asked administration if it was okay to install the system I paid for with my own money. The school’s principal kicked it upstairs to the autocrat micro-manger idiot who was the assistant superintendent in charge of the secondary schools in the district. He said No. His reason: I’d be infringing on the privacy of my students if I videotaped them in class during learning time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWfuDLVwawM
video with additional commentary
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Dr. Ravitch, while the issues of poverty and prenatal care have been addressed extensively in “Reign of Error,” the issue of birth control is not as widely discussed as it relates to the state of our urban schools. Too many unplanned pregnancies, children born out of wedlock, kids having kids. If the father is in high school or even junior high in many cases, he is immune to responsibility if he can prove he has no income. Burden then goes to the very young mother and the public assistance system. Over 750,000 children are born each year to mothers under the age of 20. 8 out of 10 do not marry father.
Human Growth/Reproductive/Sex education needs to start in 4th grade. Presentations should be given by designated male faculty to boys, female faculty to girls each semester all the way until 12th grade. While abstinence should be encouraged, protection should be recommended. Statistics on how many teens have had sex, even unprotected sex at any given age are easily Googled. It is astounding. Perhaps a slogan could be “Protect Yourself.”
Condoms should be freely available in councelor and nurses offices as well as a discreet location at all middle schools and high schools. Community centers and health clinics should offer sex education as well as free birth control as well. Girls 16 and over should be able to get free pills or patches from clinic, 15 and under with consent from parents.
We must start early, as young as 9 or 10 in educating children about the consequences, including diseases, of unprotected sex. As it is, certain sub groups are more dismissive of using condoms. It can be considered “cool” to get a girl pregnant. This must be slowed down.
The schools can provide the needed education. This should be happening. We need to do everything we can for the current generation to become responsible, productive citizens. Unplanned pregnancies to teenage, unwed mothers create great challenges for the mother herself as well as the child. Schools are doing the best job they can do, given the constant influx of children born into poverty. More extensive birth control education to all grades 4th-12th will be of great long term benefit to the problem of poverty.
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Of course, parents can opt out of these presentations, which should take place twice yearly. Free birth control, condoms, pills, patches, etc. is much less expensive than putting a child through the public assistance, school, then prison systems.
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Please excuse all typos/errors on above posts. Discipline problems are the biggest challenge in our urban schools. Particularly with so little administrative or parental support. Schools are only concerned with keeping documented discipline problems down to whatever quota they are allowed. The kids know it.
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Above posts not meant to demean or devalue ANY human life. Only to present practical, but not necessarily politically correct solutions. Hopefully productive, much more in depth discussion/discourse will be encouraged by all of Dr. Ravich’s avid readers and followers. There is true crisis due to epidemic, vicious cycle of unplanned pregnancies to under educated mothers and absent fathers. This must be slowed down. WAY, WAY down.
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