Susan Ochshorn, an expert in early childhood education, read a recent article by Motoko Rich in the New York Times about a “renaissance” of play in kindergarten. She cautions here that the renaissance is still in too few places and can’t come soon enough.
Ochsborn writes:
“I sure hope she’s right. But I’m not yet ready to raise a glass.
“Some educators in low-income districts–including the one quoted in Rich’s piece–cling to the idea that poorer children will be ill-served by a curriculum dominated by play, falling behind their more affluent peers. Their worries, fueled by anxieties about the achievement gap, reflect a centuries-old divide—dueling theories about how young children learn best. Never mind that the evidence base for the acquisition of reading, math, science, and social skills through play couldn’t be more robust, as the researchers like to say. Or that the most well-endowed private schools, producing the nation’s elite, have long subscribed to this pedagogical model.
“We continue to spar, leaving children in the dust. Is it better for them to lead the way, or be led? Developmental scientist Alison Gopnik, who calls children the “R & D department of the human species—the blue-sky guys, the brainstormers”— argues that teacher-led learning may produce specific answers from students, but it also puts the kibosh on unexpected solutions, or the kind of creative thinking that we purport to hold in such high esteem.”

“Play is the highest form of research” Albert Einstein
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Tough to follow Albert, but yes, let small children develop confidence and excitement about the world, a love of life and learning. Much of this is beyond most forms of results-based research, I would think, unfortunately, yet well within the realm of common sense, knowledge of children and ourselves and wisdom.
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Hogwash! The benefits of play-based learning are not beyond results-based research. We have a tremendously robust evidence base, not to mention evolutionary hard-wiring described by neuroscientist/anthropologist Melvin Konner in his epic work, The Evolution of Childhood.
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Glad to hear it, but it remains open-ended and subjective how far we are as a species in understanding our development and intelligence.
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And how genuine much of our research is in education and psychology.
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There are just some things we aren’t really ready to research right now through any hard or soft science.
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Have taught for 12 years (10 in sped in an affluent suburb, 2 in kindergarten in a diverse, struggling urban district.). Here is one problem I see in my urban district: turnover is high and it is hard to find teachers who want to teach in our district. So these jobs are often filled by young teachers just starting their career. The district provides a lot of training and professional development and it is often led by administrators and the reformy-type climbers who have little teaching experience but have managed to work their way into consultant or coaching positions. So from the beginning these new teachers are being taught all about “rigor”, data-driven instruction and the importance of assessment (corporate assessment…not teacher created). So I sit in these meetings and listen to administrators grimace and squirm when we talk about bringing back free play, blocks, painting, etc… As a seasoned veteran I know better because my first few years of teaching were filled with solid, research based professional development. But these newbies are listening to the higher ups…not me. It becomes very hard to challenge the system when there are new, young, bright-eyed recruits being trained in the way of “reform”. So they are running their kindergarten classrooms the way the district is mandating it. (But I’m not giving up! I’m still fighting for this change!! ).
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Unfortunately, administrators are under extreme pressure, just like teachers. Balance is the key– teachers taught phonics even under the whole language edict and you should continue to give kids lots of language and social skill-rich opportunities even under this testing edict.
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This is a valuable, brass-tacks insight into how things can go so wrong, so swiftly. It’s an illustration of a certain business mentality taking over a profession. We’ve seen the same pattern in HMO healthcare.
Decades ago (when US still had a robust mfg base) I had a career in procurement. The pattern you describe would be seen in procurement departments where it was not the company’s but the client’s money being spent– especially if the client was fed-regulated, like an electric utility. The farther removed the source of $ (e.g. ratepayers) from its expenditure (e.g. buyers for a company hired by a utility which was subject to fed procurement procedures), the more wiggle-room in the power structure for incompetent or corrupt dept heads to move in and put their newbie puppets into supervision over experienced buyers. Just like experienced teachers, the buyers’ expertise became moot; they were quickly reduced to paper-pushers trying to make lousy deals look good. This happens because the system is too big: it takes too much time and money to figure out when the end-user is being cheated, & by then the money is gone.
In stark contrast: the procurement dept for a company which contracted directly with the end-user by promising to do the job on schedule for a lump sum. No wiggle-room at all; dept heads made sure they had the best/ most-experienced buyers, & created an environment where those folks could do their best work.
It is difficult to translate this to the public-school system, because the end-users are ordinary municipal tax-payers. Such people can be easily fooled as to what constitutes a good public education. However, at a minimum, if the system is run at the municipal level, the end-user can easily understand what he’s getting for his tax-dollar, and can make his opinion heard and vote count.
When we kick the responsibility for public–ed curriculum & staff upstairs to higher levels of govt, we immediately run the risk of creating school systems such as you describe.
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As a long time principal of a low SES school, I have to say that an academic kindergarten is vastly superior to a ‘developmental’ one. When we had whole language, our kids played in kindergarten and failed spectacularly, leaving us at 6th grade reading at a 4th grade level or below. Now, we have an academic morning with lots of skill development and, yes, phonics. The other half of the day is concentrated around myriad activities and play that must involve extensive opportunities for kids to engage in talk, talk, and more talk. Here’s what happens: When kids get an opportunity to learn how to read when they are in K, they are then able to access the world of text for at least a year or two in advance of their peers to acquire exactly what they missed as low SES kids: exposure through text to vicarious experiences, vocabulary, and the rich world around them. And they leave us reading at grade level. They have a chance. Pendulum swings are bad for kids. Don’t take away the academics they need in kindergarten just because idiots are pushing testing for 5 year olds.
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Nobody worth listening to is recommending “take away all academics.” But there are better ways to accomplish this than through worksheets, drill-and-kill phonics instruction and “academic mornings”. In my classroom, we used puppetry to develop oral language. We explored force and motion using balls and ramps and then we wrote about our experiences in our science journals. I wholeheartedly agree with the importance of oral language development. But I was also forced into an “academic morning” and this is flat out WRONG. They might leave you reading at grade level but are they maintaining that success long-term? Are their graduation rates higher? Are they able to be successful in college or trade school? How about socially/emotionally? There is so much more to “play” than reading at grade level.
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Correction: There is so much more to “success” than reading at grade level.
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oops: Meant to say: …to acquire vicariously through text exactly what they missed as low SES kids: exposure to experiences…
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It seems we have a different understanding of ‘academic morning.’ For us, it is 30 minutes of phonics, 30-45 minutes of comprehension (puppetry, acting, doing–all wonderful activities) that focuses on story elements, characterization, theme, etc, then concrete math that evolves into representative math and is grounded in situational problems (Joe wants to share…) and has multiple solution strategies, etc. Am I ok with worksheets? Limited only, for practice as needed. Perfect Practice (Lemov?)– lots of evidence that doing things over and over makes you good at them.
Reading is essential. When our kids leave us not reading, they fail. Spectacularly.
Do they need to be able to think, take risks, problem solve, tolerate delayed gratification, have social and coping skills, see the world through wondering eyes? Yes, of course.
Throwing out phonics and math and just letting kids play in kindergarten unfettered by adults is fine for kids who have rich and structured home and community experiences. For low SES kids, it’s a disaster. I’m saying so out of experience.
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Respectfully, “letting kids play in kindergarten unfettered by adults” is not what is being proposed here—
Or practiced, for example, in the sorts of schools the leading rheephormsters send THEIR OWN CHILDREN to.
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It sort of frightens me that people like you are in charge. You clearly know nothing about how children learn.
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The life work of Dr. Maria Montessori challenges what you say about poor children. She specifically developed her theory of education for the kids who were labelled “retarded’ and “uneducable” yet they all became skilled readers, writers, mathematicians, and scientists without an “academic morning” and through self-selected play with didactic materials and a good dose of housekeeping and life skills through play.
I understand all too well the constraints you (and I) operate under in today’s schools but these kids are not failures. They may fail to meet an arbitrary and politically manipulated goal of doing certain things at a certain time but that is not their failure. It is the failure of the system.
We choose to work in the system and we accept a lot of the hogwash and crap but we need to be honest and truthful about what we are doing. There is no such thing as “grade level” anything and labelling kids in conformity with a sick system is a sick practice we indulge in all too often.
I am evolving into something new, clearly, and part of that is a burgeoning reluctance to maintain the status quo evils by my acquiescence and silence. That’s just me, though. and I’m aware that there will be a stiff price to pay but I’m becoming increasingly willing to pay that price to do what is right for kids.
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Disa –
Perhaps during your training as a principal, you have not had the opportunity to learn much about early childhood education? I suggest you read DEY Project:
Click to access readinginkindergarten_online-1.pdf
“In the United States there is a widespread belief that teaching children to read early — in kindergarten or even prekindergarten — will help them be better readers in the long-run. Unfortunately, there is no scientific evidence that this is so. How then did this idea take hold so strongly?”
No scientific evidence. None.
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“There is no such thing as “grade level” anything and labelling kids in conformity with a sick system is a sick practice we indulge in all too often. ”
Gimme an AMEN and HALLELUJAH on that BROTHER/SISTER Chris!
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Disa…a few thoughts…
Whole language is a reading instruction approach. I don’t think the controversy in this article is about the best approach to teaching reading.
The concern is about dispensing with exploratory play activities that are important to the development of the whole child in order to try and ensure all kindergartners can “read” by the end of the school year.
We do know that a lot of poor kids arrive in kg. behind their more affluent peers in developmental skills, especially language. I am not sure if trying to force them to reach a developmental milestone (reading) earlier than their more privileged peers-when they already have been deprived of many of the precursor activities that leads to a solid foundation for becoming a good reader is wise or even doable.
What would make more sense is to make sure families living in poverty have the supports (such as quality birth-4 program nurseries), parent education, adequate housing and enough food-so these kids don’t fall behind to begin with.
Geoffrey Canada, founder of the Harlem Children’s Zone and a hero of the Ed. Reform movement understood the importance of getting to children at risk early. HCZ’s Baby College got to their future students while they were in their mother’s womb, and provided them with parenting classes, infant-toddler programs, and then pre-school for 3 and 4 year olds.
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Agreed. My experience, though, is that poor kids CAN and DO learn the skill of reading, quite easily, with a solid 30 minute block each day. The challenge is giving them lots and lots of talk time and exploration to develop their comprehension skills. It’s not a case of ‘academic’ OR ‘exploratory play’ K, but rather how to do both well, which is what teachers do in classrooms when they have time to collaborate and are not at the mercy of the current national fad. I fear when ‘academic’ K is thrown out, phonics will go out with it in the bathwater.
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I have taught early childhood for 33+ years. When I taught kindergarten back in the mid eighties, the push for more academics was coming in. Teachers protested. Yes I used a phonics program and taught the children how to write letters. Yes I developed the desire to want to read, and they read and wrote at a very beginning level. But the bulk of the time was play, listening to good children’s literature, developing number sense through play/guidance. The children also learned about their cultures and science. They played in centers. They had table toys and all kinds of manipulatives to develop gross and fine motor skills. They had gym regularly and movement activities in the classroom. They sang and danced. They socialized and learned how to solve problems. They went in many trips. They were happy! Those children from a very high needs school (bilingual, ESL, special needs) did well. They went to an excellent JHS that didn’t choose their students at the time, but had to accept the children from the neighborhood. Many of those kindergarten students are now parents, with good jobs who are sending their children to the same school. My colleague and I have been privileged to teach the children of those kindergarteners from the eighties. Those parents insist on a program that is balanced between play and academics in Pre-K. The same thing can’t be said for kindergarten which is weighted on the side of academics, because of the pressures of common core, MOSL testing, running records and preparing them to be college and career ready at five! These children are not being given the time they need to grow, develop language and social skills. And it takes a toll by the time they reach third grade. Children are burnt out and too many hate school. We need to go back to a play based education for our kindergarten children. And I would add that first graders could benefit from some playtime during the day.
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I taught in a diverse suburban school with about 30% poverty, and we got terrific results with a balanced kindergarten. There were academic blocks and real blocks in the classroom. The teacher always had an academic goal, but there was also time for hands-on group activities as well as individual hands-on time. The teacher also used flexible groups to meet the needs of various sub-groups. This type of instruction allowed children to engage in structured lessons, exploration, both large and small muscle activities. We were a “Blue Ribbon” school.
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I am going to insert a tribute to a great man who just died a few days ago. No one seems to be acknowledging the elephant in the room–which SAm Blumenfeld spent his life trying to explain to people–there has been a DELIBERATE dumbing down of our students starting in kindergarten and first grade.
A tribute to Sam Blumenfeld: a great patriot and educator who understood that America’s freedom begins in the classroom (May 31, 1926 – June 1, 2015)
Sam Blumenfeld wrote ten books about education, including Alpha-Phonics, a simple primer for teaching children to read. His last book was published in April. He lectured on education right up until his passing a few days ago at the age of 89.
He was one of the first people to expose the deliberate dumbing down of our public school system. John Dewey wrote an article published in School and Society in 1898, “The Primary-School Fetish.” He wrote “…the time has come for a thoroughgoing examination of the emphasis, put upon linguistic work in elementary instruction…The plea for the predominance of learning to read in early school-life because of the great importance attaching to literature seems to me a perversion.”
Blumenfled blamed John Dewey for creating generations of dyslexic individuals who have difficulty reading. Sam fought in WWII to save the world from Nazis and fascists only to discover Dewey’s treachery to dumb down the American population so that they would accept socialism.
John Dewey persuaded his fellow socialists that the best way to change America from a society of individuals to one in which the collective is valued would be to dumb-down the American people. The easiest way to do that was to change the way reading was taught in our schools. Dewey was a professor of Philosophy at Columbia University from 1904 to 1930. His influence at Columbia Teacher’s College on teacher training cannot be underestimated.
Dewey replaced the traditional phonics based method of reading instruction with the look-say method in which English is taught as if it were Chinese. The whole word is viewed as a picture which actually accesses a different part of the brain than phonetic decoding. Children have to memorize little words. It is called a sight vocabulary. Children are encouraged to memorize these “sight words” before they even know the sounds of the letters. Here is an excerpt from a Sam Blumenfeld lecture:
“Do you know what that does? That creates a sight reflex, a picture reflex in the brain. And that becomes an obstacle to seeing the phonetic structure of our words. And that reflex, because it’s automatic, and creates this obstacle against seeing the phonetic structure of our words, creates dyslexia. Dyslexia!”
Blumenfled is very emphatic about the importance of learning the phonetic structure of our English language. It enhances brain power, expands vocabulary and allows students to be able to read anything, including our founding documents and American history. Our freedom depends on a literate population.
It is amazing to me that in 2015 we are still recycling the discredited whole language method. It is now called “Balanced Literacy” in which supposedly the best components of both the whole language and phonics programs are simultaneously taught. If Sam Blumenfeld is correct, teaching sight words to children who cannot decode words phonetically yet is a crime. The effects can be devastating.
Crimes of the Educators: How Utopians Are Using Government Schools to Destroy America’s Children by Sam Blumenfeld and Alex Newman was published in April, 2015. The premise of the book is that to continue to use a method that can cause dyslexia and lifelong reading disabilities when a perfectly good method for teaching reading is available is criminal. Read the book and decide for yourself. Sam is gone but his ideas are still here for us to share with our locally elected school boards.
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More hogwash, from our resident paranoid conspiracy theorist, who told Diane she wasn’t going to write that crap here anymore.
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Yes, hogwash. From someone who obviously hasn’t read of Dewey in his own words, just translated through right-wing paranoids like Blumenthal. “Government schools” is a dead give-away.
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Sam Blumenfeld was a beautiful person devoted to ensuring that children will not continue to be deprived of the phonetic grounding they need to learn how to read. He died two weeks ago. Do not besmirch his name because you did not know him.
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How about you comment on the actual point of my post instead of calling me names?
The point is that Blumenfeld was born in 1926 and learned how to read with an exclusively phonics program. So did all of his classmates. He explains what happened.
Dewey replaced the traditional phonics based method of reading instruction with the look-say method in which English is taught as if it were Chinese. The whole word is viewed as a picture which actually accesses a different part of the brain than phonetic decoding. Children have to memorize little words. It is called a sight vocabulary. Children are encouraged to memorize these “sight words” before they even know the sounds of the letters.
Here is an excerpt from a Sam Blumenfeld lecture:
“Do you know what that does? That creates a sight reflex, a picture reflex in the brain. And that becomes an obstacle to seeing the phonetic structure of our words. And that reflex, because it’s automatic, and creates this obstacle against seeing the phonetic structure of our words, creates dyslexia. Dyslexia!”
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So because Blumentfeld himself learned to read with an exclusively phonics program, that means that’s the only way to learn to read? Could you then tell me how Chinese kids learn to read? How do you teach Chinese characters phonetically?
There was a study in the late 80s that looked at struggling Chinese readers and struggling American readers. They taught the American kids Chinese characters and taught the Chinese kids English words phonetically. Both groups, overall, did much better, indicating that some kids need to learn phonics, some kids need to learn by sight.
BTW, since anecdotes apparently equal evidence, my uncle was taught to read exclusively by phonics. He’s been dyslexic his whole life.
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“Jake’s back pack was on the bed. It is red…. ” Although the first two sentences look like they are merely phonetically decodable text, there is so much more that is required for a student to understand/comprehend them than phonics alone could provide. Phonetically, the student needs to be able to decode short vowel words and vowel-consonant-e words, which is facilitated by phonics instruction. Dyslexic students need lots of explicit phonics instruction and repetition while some students may infer the letter-sound associations and syllable types from repeated exposure to text. The student needs to remember high frequency words that are not decodable such as WAS and THE. Some remember these with ease; others need multisensory instruction and lots of repetition. The student needs to understand that the small morpheme ‘s indicates possession. Instructional attention to morphology is helpful. (Morphemes- the smallest units of meaning- also include the meanings or functions of prefixes, suffixes, and roots.) The pronoun “it” refers to the bag not Jake or the bed. Understanding and tracking pronoun referents is important. Working memory can have an impact on this skill. BACK is a multiple meaning word, so the student needs to be flexible in his/her thinking. Perhaps the student might predict/infer that because it WAS on the bed and the text follows by saying it IS red, the back pack might be missing: syntactic clues. That’s why they say, “Teaching Reading Really is Rocket Science.” Different children, demonstrated by FMRI studies, engage their brains in different ways when reading, some more effectively than others. FMRI studies also show that effective instruction can and does change the way the brain organizes itself in order to read successfully. Science and practice need to work hand in hand. IDA (International Dyslexia Association) is an example of an organization that facilitates parents, educators, and scientists working together. Further, a skilled beginning reading teacher understands that some consonants blend more easily than others. Try blending /s/ /a/ /t/ or /m/ /a/ /t/. The s and m are continuants, not “stops” like the “b” in the previous example. Further, learning the common rime /at/ would make blending even easier: /m/ /at/ or /s/ /at/ Lastly, successful blending relies on word knowledge (part of a strong oral vocabulary), especially when words are read in isolation. Now that brings us back to early childhood: nursery rhymes and fingerplays with rhyme, alliteration, and rhythm; storytelling and book sharing; conversations; singing; PLAY….to develop foundational literacy skills. The Reading Wars are over; we know too much go backwards or get stuck. Let’s apply what we know in our homes, schools, trainings, etc. Let’s work together.
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While it seems a stretch to associate political ideology with how reading is taught, I still do not understand the ongoing battle between phonics and whole word. These wars fire up in our community now and then.
Could someone more knowledgeable please fill me in? Is there peer reviewed research on reading methods? Why the association of phonics to political beliefs? What is the background here?
Dawn’s post is sprinkled with colorful references to Nazis, socialism, and government schools, but if both approaches have some merit, do teachers already use a blend that works best for students?
I’m trying to remember how my own kids learned, and remember starting with Bob Books and just constantly reading to them. We had them follow along, sound out tough words, associate words with pictures – whatever worked.
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MathVale,
I am not a reading teacher nor an elementary level teacher, but I will try to answer to the best of my ability. The skill of reading is really a whole bunch of different skills that kids must master. Different strategies target different skills. So when you think about, the wise approach to the teaching of reading would be for the teacher to be well versed in all of the strategies and be able to chose the correct ones to use on individual children depending on their strengths and weaknesses in developing the various skills that combine to make one a good reader.
If we had faith in teachers’ abilities, and gave them small class sizes at least through the early childhood years, allowed them to develop their own toolboxes and choose the right tools at the right time, and gave kids time to develop into good readers, we wouldn’t have as many kids struggling.
Unfortunately, as with the corporations who profit now from testing and common core aligned curriculum and test prep materials, the “reading wars” also saw companies competing for markets.
When my son (now 25) was in kg. and 1st grade, the district had a contract with a whole language publishing company who controlled the staff development. His teacher had a list of reading strategies on the wall. One of them “sound it out”. She was told to remove it- as it was not part of their program.
I used a phonetically based program I had from my student teaching days at home to supplement his instruction.
Right now the fight is about at what age is it appropriate to expect a child to read by. But there have always been fights where some entity gets control of the agenda and teachers’ ability to teach gets stymied and limited.
Back in the 90’s Lucy Caulkins’ s approach was the rule of the land in NYC public schools. At that time I was a parent of 2 kids in school and I have my opinions on the adequacy of her approach, but teachers who are well versed in it can better answer it.
But here is a link to a site I found and linked to on another blog post her that seems to offer a reasonable explanation of the stages of learning to read and the different teaching strategies the teacher can use at each stage.
https://www.siue.edu/education/readready/1_Literacy/1_SubPages/1_ld_emergent.htm
Hope it helps!
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Notice, no references for the “sight reading method” attributed to John Dewey or the presumed causual association of that method with dyslexia.
I know that researchers have looked behind students’ performance on international tests. A big factor is same language spoken at home and in school. That is a huge big problem when, as in NYC, about 40% of children come to schools from homes where English is not spoken and about 180 languages might be sufficient to communicate with those parents. Hampden-Thompson, G., & Johnston, J. (2006). Variation in the relationship between nonschool factors and student achievement on international assess-ments, (NCES 2006-014). U.S. Department of Education. Washington, DC: National Center for Education Statistics.
I am not an expert in reading but some of these posts seem to me an extension of the so-called reading wars, which can only be sustained by either-or thinking, not acknowledging hybrids, or the idea of different strokes for different folks and at different times.
My understanding of phonics is not that of a professional but I do know that exaggerated claims about “phonics” versus “word recognition by sight” and other specific emphases have been around for a long time and that conservatives, specifically Phyllis Schafly and the Graber family in Texas, were famous for condeming any reading strategies in teacher guides that were not strictly phonics.
Maybe our resident historian of education has some brief reminders for all of us about the reading wars.
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Reference:
Crimes of the Educators: How Utopians Are Using Government Schools to Destroy America’s Children – April 14, 2015
by Samuel Blumenfeld (Author), Alex Newman
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There have been plenty of studies demonstrating the superiority of teaching an exclusive phonics program. See my other posts for references.
Sam Blumenfeld’s point in his latest book is that it is a crime to continue to subject children to a method that actually produces dyslexia, when we know what works. Many schools to this day use “Balanced Literacy” which supposedly takes the best components of whole language and phonics and blends them into one program. If Sam’s research is correct that memorizing sight words interferes with ever being able to decode words phonetically because it sets up an automatic reflex response to words as pictures, then it is indeed a crime to continue teaching this method.
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Thank you all for input. I have rarely pay attention to reading instruction and it seems fascinating. It does seem a blended approach where the teacher designs towards the student using both phonics and whole language would be ideal. That certainly argues for having teachers as professionals and less top down design of classrooms.
Thanks, Dawn. Since this forum is open to all, I do appreciate your thoughts. I hesitate to base an argument on one source, so I will look for other sources as you suggest. If I understand you, you are saying there is high correlation if not causation of whole language instruction to dyslexia and sufficient evidence exists. I’ll take a look, thanks!
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BTW, MathVale, in my experience. this claim is incorrect:
“memorizing sight words interferes with ever being able to decode words phonetically”
In the 50s, when Dick and Jane books were popular in schools, many children were taught sight words in 1st Grade and phonics in 2nd Grade, including me. I never struggled with decoding and I know of no one who became dyslexic as a result of that.
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Dawn: I admit I am working merely from anecdote here, but the idea that a certain reading instruction creates dyslexia seems patently ridiculous to me & I would want to see a ton of research– not just ideology– from Mr Blumenthal to prove that hypothesis. I and my 6-yrs-younger brother had the same kindergarten teacher in the 1950’s, who used the same method on both of us, which was phonics. I did fine, he didn’t. I wasn’t dyslexic, he was. The next sibling down (6 yrs younger, also dyslexic) may have been subjected to some watering-down of phonics & sight-reading; regardless she ultimately was more successful at reading than her dyslexic brother.
My dad was dyslexic & Mom was not; of four siblings, the middle two were dyslexic, despite being read to from infancy, taught to sound it out by mom, etc.
The schooling of greatest influence regarding dyslexia were the SpEd methods which came along in the ’70’s, in time to teach my younger sister to compensate, learn, & catch up, & eventually spurred her to become highly successful as a SpEd teacher & eventually school principal.
Meanwhile her elder dyslexic brother progressed to reading prowess in young adulthood despite failure in p.s. He often tells me that it’s like trained muscles: he has never owned a TV & reads daily; if he skips it for a while, he starts losing ability. My sis despite all her success tells me she’ll never be able to proofread, as the p’s/b’s/q’s/d’s still float around randomly in her vision.
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Memorizing sight words before a child has even learned the sounds of each letter and blend can (but not always will) cause the SYMPTOMS of dyslexia. It can cause an automatic reflex in the brain to see the whole word as a picture and makes it difficult to approach the word in parts phonetically. It leads to whole word guessing. This has been documented by other people besides Sam Blumenfeld.
It is estimated that only about 1% of so called dyslexia is organic.
The reason that Rudolf Flesch wrote his famous book in 1955, “Why Johnny Can’t Read,” is that sight-words had devastated literacy in the United States during the period 1935-1955. His book explained why a non-phonetic approach can’t work.
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Dawn, I am interested in the source of your statement that only 1% of dyslexia is organic.
Are you familiar with IDA International Dyslexia Society http://eida.org/ or AOGPE Academy of Orton-Gillingham Practitioners and Educators ? http://www.ortonacademy.org/ These are two organizations worth investigating if you are interested in dyslexia.
IDA offers many free IDA Fact Sheets on their website. Their annual fall conference is one of the best. It will be in Texas this coming year.
Orton-Gillingham is an approach to teaching all the components of literacy to dyslexic students; it’s considered the gold standard. It includes what we know as “best practices” and includes characteristics such as systematic, structured, sequential, multisensory, cumulative, etc… It is not a commercial program but requires years of work understanding the structure of the language and how to provide explicit instruction individually or in groups for students of all ages, including adults. It is not just a beginning reading approach although it is most known for that, but it can be used to teach grammar, written expression, vocabulary, etc…
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Flesch’s 1955 book is very old and out-dated and not consistent with research that has been conducted in the decades since, some of which has been posted here.
Based on that research, the National Reading Panel stated,
“Not all children learn in the same way and one strategy does not work for all children”
and
“A combination of methods, rather than a single teaching method, leads to the best learning.”
http://nationalreadingpanel.org/Publications/publications.htm
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A renaissance of play is fine, but it may only be good for upper middle and middle class children. At least that’s the lens many reformers take. The schools are not equipped to just let any type of child play without literacy interventions and real oral language development. For those children, using play in very constructed and deliberate ways is the way to grow oral language and literacy.
Yet, I wonder how other countries handle low income children. Does rigor play a role, or do those countries believe in the universality of all children learning at their own rates with supports in place as dictated by the child’s need? Is the focus there the pricess of helping the child develop or is it the standard that has to be met? There is a huge difference int hose two paradigms.
Is there a way to impart literacy, in a formal school system, to 2, 3, and 4 year olds in a way that is developmentally appropriate and that cognitively nourishes them? Does using that time to do so crowd out other vital skills they must acquire, such as socialization and awareness of others?
One thing is for sure: it would be great to let government drive such decisions if we had the type of government that really represents we the people. We do not, however. It therefore becomes so important to give the authority of early childhood programs to cognitive researchers collaborating with parents and educators, and there needs to be real equality between all three groups. I would venture so say that most of the cognitive researchers should be hand picked by local stake holders are are well informed.
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Is the focus there the process of helping the child develop or is it getting the child to meet a standard? There is a huge difference in those two paradigms.
I would venture so say that most of the cognitive researchers should be hand picked by local stake holders who are or can become well informed.
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“Is there a way . . . ?”
Yes, Robert, there is. Dr. Montessori created it over 100 years ago. There are no “grades” in a Montessori school because children are not cattle. There are age bands where children are known to achieve developmental milestones at different times and at different paces — all self-determined by the child and specifically designed for and proven to work with the most disadvantaged children around.
The biggest difference between Montessori and traditional public schooling is that Montessori trusts children, trusts their self-knowledge, their ability to choose things that are right for them in the right moment with minimal guidance, and their built-in metacognitive abilities.
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There are some good experiences/thoughts/ideas being put forward in this area. I have learnt a lot from these wise people above.
But there is always a fly in the ointment. It appears that Dienne does not seem to understand the discussion and starting to “diatribe” here. Let us leave the hogwash, conspiracy, crap et al., and make a valid contribution to this blog. Otherwise be polite and just listen in.
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Who made you the policeman of this blog? I really don’t see any diatribes here except perhaps Dawn’s. And maybe not even then.
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Sure Raj. Let’s just let Dawn twist everything Dewey ever stood for and just “politely”not mention it. If it’s polite discussion you’re after how about a rule that you can’t just make up crap about someone whose work you’ve never read?
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Dienne, pay no attention. Your comments are always wonderful and in the right camp! I support you. You are no fly.
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“The mere absorption of facts and truths is so exclusively an individual affair that it tends very naturally to pass into selfishness. There is no obvious social motive for the acquirement of mere learning, there is no clear social gain in success thereat.” (The School and Society, 1899) — John Dewey
Note how casually he discards all that we call scholarship, academic content, liberal arts, humanities. Dewey says that facts, truths and learning must go because they have no obvious social motive, no clear gain. Really?? Well, what about these gains? Students become the skilled scientists, engineers, doctors, administrators and workers we absolutely must have. Students become better parents, citizens, neighbors, voters, investors, business owners. Students learn about the past and transmit it to the future, giving continuity to the society. Students become the superior teachers we’ll need in the future. Students learn to enjoy the life of the mind…No, Dewey says, no on all counts.
All the dumbing down we’ve seen in the last 100 years is right there in that little quote.
http://www.improve-education.org/id42.html
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Seriously, Dawn. Spend a month (or many) actually *reading* Dewey’s work directly, not just the cherry picked, distorted quotes your right-wing conspiracy theorists are feeding you. I assure you, Dewey is not at all saying what you think he is. Or you could, you know, just go on posting your nut job theories around here in front of all these people who know better because they’ve actually read the man. Your choice. I believe it was Twain who said something about remaining silent and being thought a fool vs. opening your mouth and removing all doubt.
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Dienne, try ignoring her
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Dawn “Dewey says that facts, truths and learning must go because they have no obvious social motive, no clear gain.”
The whole passage is very interesting and enlightened, even 100+ years later– found readily by googling & I couldn’t ‘put it down’. One needs to read this in the context of the thinkers of the day– I do not have that background. However even a casual reader can see he’s making the case for project-centered learning, enhanced by lessons related directly to the process in which students are engaged.
Dewey’s rationale for this is clearly set forth and not at all as you paraphrase it above. He’s talking about what motivates humans to learn. He’s talking about facilitating the acquisition of abstract learning through scaffolding up from hands-on group activity. In the example, children are learning history and science, specifically how technology develops, by working the raw materials through a process, ‘aided by questions and suggestions by the teacher.’
In other words, Dewey (like any kindergarten teacher!) suggests that children learn about plant growth better from nurturing seeds in soil, ‘aided by questions and suggestions by the teacher’ than they do sitting in rows repeating rubrics gleaned from abstract standards and workbooks.
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Dawn and others, Dewey never said “that facts, truths and learning must go because they have no social motive, no clear gain.” That is someone else’s negative interpretation of Dewey’s preference for experiential learning over sitting-quietly-in-your-chair-and-listening-pedagogy. I have read Dewey extensively (he wrote so many books and articles that no one–or very few people–can say they have read everything that Dewey ever wrote. But I have read his major books on education. My “Left Back” is critical of Dewey. But at the same time that I criticize Dewey, I recognize the importance of his advocacy for critical thinking and experience. I wanted my own children to have an education that incorporated the best of Dewey and the highest ideals of liberal education. I didn’t want them to be passive vessels for other people’s ideas, but they had to learn about other people’s ideas to know whether or not they agreed and to learn how to assemble the evidence to disagree. I suggest that you read “Left Back.” You would learn more about Dewey than by reading conspiratorial thinkers who thought he was a dangerous socialist. He was a socialist, but he turned against the Communist party after he saw his friends in the USSR falsely accused and killed. There is so much more to Dewey than the cartoon figure that his haters create. Don’t fall for their foolishness. Dewey was a great philosopher, and his ideas will be debated for generations to come. Right now, we need more Dewey, in our schools and in our society.
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Raj, feel free…
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Oh Raj, what would we do without your concern trolling? I’d miss it for sure.
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This is quite possibly the first time I’ve ever disagreed with you. 😉
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I love Raj! He is almost more amusing than Harlan Underhill.
Hilarity at its best.
Raj the language police.
And BTW, I would say that Dawn and Dienne would agree that one size does not or should not fit all in the public schools, but that’s the way the ruling elite want it.
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I don’t think Dawn would agree that one size doesn’t fit all. She’s already said that reading should be taught “exclusively” through phonics. Phonics can certainly be a part of whole language, but “exclusively phonics” rules out any other approach.
If anyone really wants to understand language acquisition and how best to teach reading, try to dig up some of Bob Shepard’s old posts. They’re quite lengthy, but very detailed. He shows brilliantly how learning to read involves many different skills that all have to come together in a sort of “aha” moment that really can’t be taught. The more ways you come at it, the more likely students are to have the “aha” moment.
As one example, phonics fails because there is a leap between letter-sound recognition and how the word actually sounds. For instance, if you’re trying to sound out the word “bag”, the b makes a “buh” sound, the a makes a short /a/ sound and the g makes a “guh” sound. Try saying that out loud: buh-/a/-guh. Some kids, if they repeat that fast enough, can hear the word “bag” in there and make the leap. Others, however, just hear “buhaguh” and they’ll never get “bag” out of it. Those kids need a different approach.
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Raj. Perhaps you need to read more broadly so that you too can begin to connect the dots.
Why Johnny Can’t Read: And What You Can Do about It, during 1955. was written by Rudolf Flesch. The book was a critique of the then-trendy practice of teaching reading by sight, often called the “look-say” method. The flaw of this method, according to Flesch, was that it required learners to memorize words by sight. When confronted with an unknown word, the learner became confused. Flesch advocated a revival of the phonics method, the teaching of reading by teaching learners to sound out words.
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Diane, Wasn’t democracy a major component of Dewey’s philosophy? That often gets omitted from conspiratorial messages about him and socialism. I have to wonder if this is because those creating and spreading the propaganda want to scare their base into always associating socialism with Nazis, so people don’t even consider how Democratic Socialism plays out in Scandinavian countries.
Then people also might not realize that it’s the very promoters of this misinformation (GOP, Koch brothers, DINOs et al.) who are the ones that actually want to eliminate democracy in education and elsewhere in this country, in order to insulate themselves from voters and secure their domination over the 99%.
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How about a serious look at real Montessori and how that can help – and a respectful study of the Aesthetic Realism Teaching Method. I do believe it is high time for common sense to take hold in education!
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Why should parents and teachers use direct systematic phonics instruction in teaching their children or students to read?
All reading instructional approaches are NOT equal in effectiveness. Direct systematic phonologic based instruction is more effective than other approaches to reading instruction. This is not opinion. This is clearly revealed by 1) the neurobiological science of proficient reading as well as proven by 2) the validated evidence based research. *Specific research references are listed at the end of this article.
Neurobiological science reveals the importance of phonologic processing to proficient reading. We now know proficient readers develop and use phonologic processing pathways to convert print to sound. Struggling/dyslexic readers have difficulty turning print to sound and do not use phonologic processing pathways. The key to proficient reading lies in the development of phonologic processing neural pathways. The brain imaging research also has provided neurobiologic proof effective phonological based reading instructional programs that specifically taught letter-sound correspondence not only improved reading skills in struggling readers, but actually changed neural activity from incorrect neural pathways to ‘correct’ phonologic pathways used by good readers. This fascinating brain imaging research has literally given us the ‘map’ for developing proficient reading and shown how we can help students develop proficient reader phonologic processing pathways.
Valid evidence based research clearly demonstrates the effectiveness of systematic and explicit phonics instruction in helping students learn to read. The research (National Reading Panel) reveals “systematic and explicit instruction in phonics produces significant benefits for children from kindergarten through sixth grade and for children having difficulty learning to read”. Systematic and explicit phonics instruction is effective for children from various social and economic levels and is particularly beneficial for children who are having difficulty learning to read. Systematic and explicit phonics instruction significantly improves children’s reading comprehension. The research also clearly reveals systematic explicit phonics instruction was significantly more effective than non-systematic or no phonics instruction. Direct systematic phonics instruction was not only effective, it was more effective than other approaches to reading instruction. “Students taught phonics systematically outperformed students who were taught a variety of nonsystematic or non-phonics programs, including basal programs, whole language approaches and whole-word programs.”
http://www.righttrackreading.com/directphonicsworks.html
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Thanks. I read the link to the National Reading Panel you reference. Very interesting. It is one of those selective, meta-analysis studies surveying existing studies (doesn’t anyone do pure research anymore?). They focus solely on phonics awareness and phonetic instruction on existing publications selectively chosen. The conclusion was phonetics remain a possibility in the teacher’s toolbox. I did not see a comparative analysis with whole language, but they do hint other strategies are still effective, not ruling out whole language.
I also chuckled at how they mention phonics strategies had weak correlation to positive results in math.
I did not see a reference to causing dyslexia. For that, I would like to see a controlled experiment with peer review. Has that been done?
I am starting to understand the reading wars. They crop up now and then locally and always seem aligned to political ideology. Why?
Personally, I do remember now my elementary trying phonics on me which failed miserably. I remember being very upset. Now I know. I needed to see and “absorb” language and reading. Thank you, Mrs. B for being a great elementary teacher and knowing to try different things! I appreciate you more.
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MathVale, you wrote: “They (The National Reading Panel) focus solely on phonics awareness and phonetic instruction on existing publications selectively chosen. ” Check: The National Reading Panel document. It reports on alphabetics, fluency, and comprehension.
The National Reading Panel http://nationalreadingpanel.org/Publications/summary.htm
Today, phonics versus whole language is not something reasonable for debate or for serious research. Reading is complex, and learning to read changes over time for students during their development. Reading instruction rests on a foundation of oral language. It begins with “learning how to read” and then transitions to “learning how to read to learn.” No one experienced in the profession would support just phonics or just comprehension instruction because of exactly what The National Reading Panel revealed. And we continue to learn more. We also know that dyslexic students may struggle with the language of math. And we know that dyslexia is not caused by a reading approach, but may be exacerbated by it. Check out Dyslexia Basics: http://eida.org/dyslexia-basics/ and IDA http://eida.org/
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Thanks. You are right they did mention those other aspects. It appeared the main criteria for including a study was phonics instruction of some type and the other aspects secondary, but I’ll read it again. I noticed they dove into instruction as well.
I would agree the NRP report mentioned a need to consider all methods.
I was interested in Dawn’s claims whole language caused dyslexia but did not find any mention in the NRP report from her link. I would think a controlled experiment would be a better approach than a meta-study of studies.
I can not understand the basis for the reading wars. Why do people advocate only one position? It seems like we should give teachers all the tools and trust them as professionals.
But enough for me.
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Yes, MathVale, you’re right on target. To those of us who have been teaching children how to read for decades, the reading war is just silly, because we know there is not one right way to reach all children, so we have a lot of tools in our toolboxes and we use multiple methods.
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Linda, glad you mentioned this which tends to go unnoticed: “Reading instruction rests on a foundation of oral language.”
As a foreign-language teacher it has not escaped my attention that the dyslexic members of my family (father, and 2 of 4 siblings) had noticeable issues in speaking [/observed oral development w/my younger siblings] as well. All three spoke so rapidly– nearly slurred, almost a shorthand version of speech– as to be often-unintelligible to the other members of the family. Hearing-listening comes before speaking which comes before reading; these are all involved in the dyslexic phenomenon.
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I really appreciate Susan for an article “RENAISSANCE IN THE KINDERGARTEN? NOT YET, MOTOKO RICH”
IMHO, it is worth to repeat the following paragraph and to highlight THE IMPORTANCE OF PLAY
[start quote]
“Like Anne Arundel County here, Washington and Minnesota are beginning to train teachers around the state on
THE IMPORTANCE of so-called PURPOSEFUL PLAY — when teachers subtly guide children to learning goals through games, art and general fun. Vermont is rolling out new recommendations for kindergarten through third grade that underscore THE IMPORTANCE of PLAY. And North Carolina is encouraging teachers to evaluate PAINTINGS, SCRIBBLES or BLOCK-BUILDING sessions, instead of giving quizzes, in assessing the reading, math and social skills of kindergartners.”
[end quote]
It is an extremely IGNORANT view in which corrupted mind-set in leaders or in authorities who intentionally fabricate CCSS, RttT, and NCLB, on behalf of children in poverty, in order to promote “closing the achievement GAP!” or “college/ career readiness”
I would challenge them the most efficient method to close the achievement GAP is that:
1) 100% sponsor tuition fee in all vocational programs from business corporations, so that children of all backgrounds can register and can be proud of being career oriented citizens upon their graduations
2) 100% sponsor tuition fee in all universities from government or publicly funded, so that children from all backgrounds can register and can be proud of being knowledgeable and being researchers in all specific fields from Liberal Arts to STEM, Economy, Music, Political Science, Police Academy, Army Academy…
3) Citizens (Business Corporations and workers in all levels) willingly + happily pay taxes for both vocational and academic education funds.
In order to successfully strengthen education fund, all wages AFTER TAXES, from minimum end to high end, must DECENTLY sustain the necessary or BASED living cost, such as food (tin food or caviar), shelter (rental or mansion living style), transportation(bus fare or jet), communication (technology in education = internet access), wardrobe (jean + T-shirt or suits)
We do not care how rich, OR how educated one family can GENERATION-ALLY be, we all are contented with our own achievement within our capability. We will be happy to work, to teach and to learn for life with harmony and with peace of mind.
Eventually, everyone will REACH to the TOP of “”inner peace”” from their OWN UNIQUE POTENTIAL within a mutual respect and admiration for one to another whether it is from a sex worker (ask Hugh Hefner) to a neuro-surgeon, or from immigrant like me to famous politician, or from custodian to business tycoon. Back2basic
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First, this excerpt from “A Theory of a System for Educators and Managers,” a conversation between the late Dr. W. Edwards Deming and the late Dr. Russell L. Ackoff:
“DR. ACKOFF: Look what the educational system does to the creativity. Every child learns at a very early stage that when they’re asked the question in school they must first ask themselves a question. What does the asker expect? That’s the way you get through school, by providing people with the answers they expect. Now, the one thing about an answer that somebody else expects is it can’t be creative because it’s already known.
“What we ought to be trying to do with children is get them to give us answers that we don’t expect to stimulate creativity. We kill it in school. What we produce is a group of people who think in the way we have been thinking for years rather than departing and developing new concepts and new ways of understanding.
“DR. DEMING: Yes, a check block system – which is the right answer, “A,” “B” or “C?” Mark it off. That is not teaching, that’s … a student learns information. He learns the right answer, and marks it off. The teacher can tabulate, make a distribution of the results of 30 pupils, or 40 or 50 in a flash. That’s not teaching, that’s not learning.”
Now, the video …
http://blog.deming.org/2012/10/dr-deming-video-a-theory-of-a-system-for-educators-and-managers/
… and the transcript…
Click to access dr.-ackoff-dr.-deming.pdf
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” there’s one thing you should especially hold against John Dewey. He and his buddy John Kilpatrick, about 1915, absolutely destroyed Maria Montessori’s growing popularity in our country. This woman was a giant among educators; she cared about children. Dewey was a Socialist; he cared about imposing his theories on an unsuspecting nation. For what he did to Montessori, that alone, he deserves: Phooey on John Dewey. When it comes to what the best and wisest parents would want for their own children, Montessori is a reasonable first choice. She was focused on growth and acceleration: talk at three, write at five, read at seven. Keep those kids moving! Dewey’s teachings are all about dilute, delete and delay, which means dumb and dumber. Phooey.
Another aspect is that Dewey and colleagues downplayed literacy. This gave, I believe, the impetus to keep pushing sight-reading (or Whole Word), even as evidence accumulated that dyslexia is chiefly caused by faulty reading pedagogy, not faulty brains. I’ve speculated elsewhere that dyslexia is the country’s great unreported scandal. So far. (See “42” Reading Resources” for more about Whole Word.)”
http://www.improve-education.org/id42.html
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Diane, I’m going to have to call foul here. Post after post Dawn has denigrated the work of one of the greatest education philosophers ever by distorting it into unrecognizable contortions. You (rightly) wouldn’t let such distortions of your own life’s work pass here.
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Diane, I really have to agree. The ongoing onslaught of conspiracy theories from Dawn were supposed to end long ago, after you told her to cease and she agreed to stop, but they keep popping up here again and again. Very tired of wack-a-mole!
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I again followed Dawn’s link and it is more of an opinion piece.
Dawn, for claims like yours, more evidence please and less opinion would be helpful. Conspiracy theories proliferate the blogosphere.
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MathVale, It’s typically speculation, personal opinions and lots of conspiracy theories with Dawn, who is an Art teacher, not an expert in reading or dyslexia. See the research cited at the bottom of the page today instead of trying to track down her nonsense.
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I am presently an art teacher with Fine Arts (K-12) certification. However, I am a certified early childhood teacher (N-2) as well as a certified Common Branch (1-6) teacher having taught Kindergarten and third grade in the past. I have taught children how to read with phonics and lots of exposure to great books and the spoken word.
You are so quick to try and discredit me to shut me up because I have dared to call John Dewey out for the treasonous socialist that he was. If he was not deliberately trying to dumb down Americans why would he have written the following?
Dewey wrote: “Change must come gradually. To force it unduly would compromise its final success by favoring a violent reaction.” (School and Society, 1900)
What matters is that some children are still being harmed by his bad ideas.
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Enlighten us, dear Dawn (or just amuse us): what, specifically, is “treasonous” about socialism? I’ll go pop some popcorn.
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Your school’s website indicates you have been teaching Art for the past 12 years and in the 5 years prior to that you taught KG for 2 years and 3rd Grade. This makes you about as expert in literacy and dyslexia as an experienced TFAer in the credentialed but developing stage, since it takes at least 7 years to become an expert teacher, longer in multiple speciality areas. And since, most pubic school Kindergartens were half day and didn’t teach reading to Kindergartners in those days, it’s very likely that you didn’t either..
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Your determination to discredit me is creepy. Are you being paid or do you just really love John Dewey? I’m done with this thread so you can relax.
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I’m a proponent of using a wide variety of strategies in order to be able to reach each child. I am not someone who believes there is one right way to teach all children how to read and who wears blinders to other approaches because they differ from my personal ideological bias.
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Dawn, I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish by calling a turn-of-the-last-century educational philosopher a “treasonous socialist” “intent on dumbing down” sstudents. Is this all about phonics? About balancing play with academics in kindergarten? Your slams are buttressed with one or two references to opinion pieces by your favorite ideologue. You’d have to write a thesis with tons of footnotes to get anywhere with that hypothesis. What’s it have to do with the topic at hand?
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the elite schools do not teach reading or writing or arithmetic in the early grades because they don’t have to. They know students will get there, and that there is plenty of encouragement and preparation at home, that kids want to read because they have been read to, that they have heard numbers and letters in conversations in their own families, and had pencils, crayons and markers to practice writing or drawing. It is these activities and exposure that poorer more deprived children need, as well as time to play. They do not need to be rushed into reading and math, rather they need the kind of fun and joy that will make them want to learn.
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Absolutely. Let’s see what the Obama girls’ learning environment was like in the early years:
http://classic.sidwell.edu/admissions/lower_school_curr.htm
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For specifics about a wide range of research dealing with whole language and phonics, see Preventing Reading Failure — Examining the Myths of Reading Instruction.
Turning the Tide of Illiteracy points out that both Cuba and Israel discovered they had high illiteracy rates after using whole language methods. Both solved their problem by returning to intensive phonics.
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After spending a good part of yesterday reading and replying to articles and posts about the CCSS expectation of 5 yr. olds being readers, it was a strange coincidence that I found myself watching the sci-fi movie I remember as a child- The Mind of Mr. Soames. It was on TCM last night, and here is a summary from IMDB reviewer:
“An underrated, pretty much forgotten movie that deserves to be better known. The premise – a 30 year-old man in a coma since birth suddenly awakened – had me hooked from the start. Terence Stamp gives an excellent performance as a baby in a man’s body. How do you treat such a patient? Scientist Vaughn believes Stamp deserves a proper childhood, including play and affection. Scientist Davenport thinks that it’s important that that Stamp be given an intense regular schedule of learning to catch up. It turns out both men are right (AND wrong)…”
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I have a 2 year old. This weekend I was trying to show her how to fit different shaped plastic pieces into a box through corresponding shaped holes in the top.
I then showed her how I retrieved them by opening the top.
She didn’t get the hang of matching the shapes to the holes…she just opened the top and put them in.
True story. I wonder had this been a test if she would have scored 110 or failed.
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She found an easier way! Smart baby! 😊
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My son attends a Public School and just completed 1st grade. After 1 1/2 yrs here, he said, “Mom, I learned more in preschool than I do at this school.” What’s different? At preschool he was not aware that he “had to” learn this or that.
He was not taught to read there either, but instead, he chose to. Why? It was made “fun”.
He excelled in everything this year except, oddly, “word problems”. My husband and I laughed at that because our son is quicker than I am at getting to the right answers on word problems. I asked our son how many 15’s are in an hour. 4 How many 40’s are in an hour? 1 what’s left? 20 How many 5’s are in an hour? 12 How many 3’s in an hour? 20. OK, where’s the problem here?
These tests and assessments are limited because overcrowding means the teacher’s time is also limited. We know our son. His math skills are superior to his so-called “exceptional” skills in language arts.
He got both from playing games. Word games, board games (Monopoly), cards, store, etc.
When Creative Brain Trust is lacking – spend more money and waste more time collecting data…as if the answer to learning resides there. Foolish and full of profiteering.
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It seems we are having two conversations here. And yes, they do intertwine. One is about play and the other is about teaching reading. Early Childhood provides the opportunity to lay a foundation for later academic learning including reading. Play is the way that children learn. They imitate what they experience and they explore and act within their environment. Early childhood success depends on intentional, attentive teachers who provide the right mix of opportunities and who create an optimal environment, essentially a lab for learning. Open-ended materials and lots of free play. Opportunities for movement. Rich ORAL language opportunities. Caring, engaged adults that children can imitate. Stories, music, cooking, art, outdoor play/exploration, gardening, etc. All of these can meet early learning standards without resorting to a school-aged model. With a strong foundation: their body is ready (balance, bilateral integration, visual-motor coordination, fine motor development,etc.), they have developed a strong oral language and a love for books, they can listen and attend, they love learning and feel empowered, etc., the next step is for the school age years to provide evidence-based reading instruction that leads to fluent reading and strong comprehension taught by skilled teachers.
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Fun is big, very big, and I hope we will see a lot more of it in schools and jobs.
Need I expound? Need I cite evidence?
You don’t want to get into wars in ed research that only contains grains of truth, because paid research can always come up with desired results in that case. We’ve seen a fair amount of that.
On the other hand, imagine that the research were fully valid, reproducible and accepted into the respective branches of science. Then imagine our choices of books and movies for ourselves and our kids governed by rubrics of intellectual value, aesthetic resonance, philosophical profundity, etc., and imagine that it would not be entirely our choice anymore, or not at all. I ensure you we are nowhere near that point, though. It’s a good thing, but with implications . . .
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And of course toys, board games and activities that used to be just plain fun, now with mandatory rules for development of life skills, intellectual growth, emotional well-being, etc.
Dysdopian. isn’t it?
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The (sic) in arrows following ‘dystopian’ disappeared. I feel like a dope.
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‘Dysdopian’
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“”Confusion about ‘whole language’ and phonics” from Krashen”
http://michaelrosenblog.blogspot.com/2013/05/confusion-about-whole-language-and.html
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Reading research: http://edresearch.info/phonics.asp For example:
“Phonics instruction
Seminal research:
Freppon found children with contemporary literature-based reading instruction are more successful at sounding out unfamiliar words when reading than children with traditional reading instruction. She studied 24 first-grade children in four classrooms, two with a contemporary literature-based reading program that focused on meaning and two with a traditional reading program with skills taught out of context.
Freppon found the children in the contemporary classrooms had a better sense that reading was constructing meaning with print. She also found that the children in the contemporary classrooms needed to sound out words less often, but when they did so, they were almost twice as successful as the children in the traditional classrooms. While the children in the contemporary classrooms were successful 53% of the time they sounded out words, the children in the skills classroom were successful only 32% of the time.
Freppon, P. (1991). Children’s concepts of the nature and purpose of reading in different instructional settings. Journal of Reading Behavior, 23, 2, 139-163.”
Replication research follows this citation
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“Phonics
Definition:
Phonics is letter-sound correspondences. The units of sound can be syllables, onsets & rimes, or phonemes.
Onsets are any consonants before a vowel in a syllable (e.g., /dr/ in drum). Rimes are the vowel and any consonants after it in a syllable (e.g., /um/ in drum).
Phonemes are the smallest unit of spoken language that make a difference in the meaning of a word, as the /d/, /r/, /u/, and /m/ in drum.
Seminal research:
Clymer found that most letter-phoneme generalizations are unreliable. He looked at four popular reading programs for children and chose forty-five of the most clearly stated phonics [letter-phoneme] generalizations in these programs. He then compared these phonics generalizations with the words used in the stories in these reading programs.
Clymer found that most letter-phoneme generalizations do not work much of the time. For example, of over thirty vowel generalizations tested, only half of them worked at least 60 percent of the time.
Clymer, T. (1963). The utility of phonic generalizations in the primary grades. The Reading Teacher, 16, 252-258.
Replication research:
Bailey (1967), Burmeister (1968) and Emans (1967) did similar studies and had similar findings.
Bailey, M.H. (1967). The utility of phonic generalizations in grades one through six. The Reading Teacher, 20, 413-418.
Burmeister, L.E. (1968). Usefulness of phonic generalizations. The Reading Teacher, 21, 349-356.
Emans, R. (1967). The usefulness of phonic generalizations above the primary grades. The Reading Teacher, 20, 419-425.
Related research:
Berdiansky, Cronnell, and Koehler found the English writing system is a complex maze of over 211 overlapping letter-phoneme correspondences. They analyzed over 6,000 one- and two-syllables words within the comprehension vocabularies of children ages six to nine years old.
Berdiansky and her colleagues found 69 letters and digraphs (letter pairs that represent a single phoneme) used to represent 38 phonemes, but the letters and digraphs were related to the 38 phonemes in 211 overlapping ways. To illustrate the complexity they found, the letter o is pronounced one way in no, another way in to, another way in won, and yet another way in woman. The letters ow are pronounced one way in now and another way in snow (which is the same as the o in no). The letters oe are pronounced one way in shoe, another way in does (when does is a verb, not a noun), and yet another way in doe (which is the same as the o in no and the ow in snow).
Berdiansky, B., Cronnell, B., & Koehler, J. (1969). Spelling-Sound Relations and Primary Form-Class Descriptions for Speech Comprehension Vocabularies of 6-9 Year Olds. Technical Report No. 15. Los Alamitos, CA: Southwest Regional Laboratory for Educational Research and Development.”
http://edresearch.info/phonics.asp
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Yes, my thoughts exactly coming from the angle of a teacher of foreign languages. Narrowing the teaching of reading to a phonics-only approach probably works fine in Spanish. Moving from speaking to reading in English is a complex task, and deserves as many tools in the toolbox as possible.
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One way to understand a student’s needs is to closely examine his/her errors. To be very, very general, a student who can’t decode phonetically regular words in isolation can benefit from explicit phonics instruction. Students who don’t self-correct their non-meaningful substitutions may need instruction in comprehension strategies such as self-monitoring. That is, as I said, very general. The point is that teaching reading is complicated, and that students are not all the same, and that we need teachers skilled in providing appropriate instruction.
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“Has Whole Language Failed?” by Stephen Krashen
Click to access Krashen_WholeLang.PDF
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My point was about John Dewey replacing phonics with the look-say method of memorizing whole words.instead of learning how to sound them out. That is what causes the symptoms of dyslexia or whole word guessing. That is what becomes a hindrance to becoming a great reader all through life even if they can pass tests and do okay until about third grade.
Sight-Words promote whole-word guessing from context.
It is a strong conviction of the Blend Phonics Campaign that sight-word instruction is a hinderance rather than a help to the acquisition of high level reading and spelling skills. Refraining from teaching sight-words is a necessary first-step to maximizing the impact of good phonics-first instruction.
Dyslexia Equivalence
Many of the symptoms of dyslexia are indistinguishable from the sight-word induced whole-word guessing habit. It is kind of like the relativistic equivalence of gravity and acceleration. It is impossible for the moving observer to tell which is which. For want of a better term and to distinguish it from real dyslexia, we will call it “sight-word induced guessing.” It is an inferior form of reading, which seriously interferes with thought getting since misread words detract from the full, intended meaning of any passage.
Check out the full page of references on this link which provides many researchers and educators. You can even skip Sam Blumenfeld if you dislike his politics. There are plenty of others who can verify his assertions.
http://blendphonics.org/?page_id=68
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I’ll ask again, if phonics is the only way to teach reading, how do Chinese kids learn to read? How do you teach Chinese characters phonetically?
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please tell me you are joking
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Nope – answer the question.
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Dawn,
John Dewey did not invent look-say or whole-word.
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Diane,
Surely you would attribute the spreading of this method to Dewey. He taught at Columbia University as a philosophy professor form 1904 – 1930. He also worked at Columbia Teacher’s College. The Lincoln School (1917–1940) of Teachers College, Columbia University, was a university laboratory school set up to test and develop and ultimately to promulgate nationwide curriculum materials reflecting the most progressive teaching methods and ideas of the time. Don’t you think his influence was phenomenal?
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Why Johnny Can’t Read: And What You Can Do About It
by Rudolf Flesch
The classic book on phonics-the method of teaching recommended by the U.S. Department of Education.
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Isn’t the Department of Ed itself a conspiracy?
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Can we all on this thread agree that one size does not nor should not fit all? Different children need different aporoaches in being educated, no? Some need more Orton Gillinham type of components; others thrive on Reader’s Theatre.
Of course, Arnie Duncan’s version and Joel Klein’s version of how children should be taught are both not options, as they are abusive and reprehensible.
I believe Dewey said that learning is doing. Why not merge the best of Dewey with the best of Montessori? Teaching is a science but it’s also an art form.
Dawn, Dienne, et al? Would you agree?
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Cx
. . . . approaches . . . .
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The history of American education tells us that Dewey did everything he could to roadblock Maria Montessori. If he was such a nice guy who loved to see child centered classrooms of children hands on playing, he should have supported her efforts. Oui?
… in the early 20th century, some prominent American educators had actively discredited the Montessori method. The American philosopher and educator John Dewey, and his student William Heard Kirpatrick, thought Montessori’s program stifled creativity and focused too much on the individual. Kirpatrick went on a campaign against the Montessori method in the 1920s, attacking it in a popular pamphlet. His criticisms helped keep Montessori scarce in the U.S. for about three decades.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/the-great-montessori-schism/266217/
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Dewey and Kilpatrick had specific concerns about Montessori’s method, which Kilpatrick detailed in a pamphlet. I fail to see that as “attacking”. In fact, they agreed with several aspects of her method. Montessori and/or her supporters were – and are – free to respond in an open dialogue of ideas. Or are you trying to silence Dewey?
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That one size does not fit all has been sort of my mantra on this board since I’ve been posting. That’s why I advocate for a more progressive approach that utilizes students’ own interests, talents snf strengths and develops weaker areas at students’ own pace using methods appropriate for each student.
Dawn is the one insisting on a strict phonics only approach because the “other” approach (as if there is only one other approach, which she badly misunderstands) is “harmful”. It’s like religious ferver. There is only one true God and there is only one true way to teach reading. Talk about totalitarianism.
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There is only one God.
There are only 26 letters of the alphabet and children need to know the sounds associated with each one as well as how to blend them so that they can decode any size word that they will ever encounter. A systematic approach to reading is the quickest way to be enable a child to read all of the great literature he can get his hands on.
What I am against is:
Embedded phonics – an approach to the teaching of reading in which phonics forms one part of a whole language programme. Embedded phonics differs from other methods in that the instruction is always in the context of literature rather than in separate lessons, and the skills to be taught are identified opportunistically rather than systematically.
Amazing how a simple tribute to a great man who recently passed has generated such angst. I do think it is important to thank those who have gone before us and contributed positively to our world. I also think it is important to know history and how specific philosophies and ideologies are leading us on the road to ruin.
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Dawn, what does “God” have to do with any of this?
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I was simply answering an accusation by another poster that I probably think there is only one God. I was simply agreeing that I am a person that thinks there is only one God. That is the short answer.
A longer answer includes the reason that I bring up the fact that John Dewey was a socialist ideologue. He and all other socialists and communists do not believe in God. They banish God from the classroom because it is essential that children do not see themselves as unique individuals created in the image of God in order for them to go along with the collectivist drivel that the group is more important than the individual. Socialism and communism require that mindset. (The inability to read helps with this because if you can’t read the Bible, you can’t know the truth. And if you can’t read the history books, you can’t know that Utopian pipe dreams never work out for the little guy. Some elites always end up hijacking the movement and turning it into tyranny.)
The idea that the socialist countries of Europe are “free” is laughable. They are controlled by bankers and the Vatican. The parliament of the European Union is a mirage having no power.
And the Pope is coming to speak to a joint session of our congress on September 24, 2015. And then on to the UN. He will be speaking about climate change, social justice and sharing the wealth. Separation of Church and State? Or Biblical prophecy coming true as the two beasts come together?
Socialism is what is being pushed by the Common Core right now, not through the standards themselves, which are empty skill sets, but through the tests, and the CC aligned materials and new textbooks being created to reflect this view. They are downplaying the founding fathers and the concept of being citizens of a sovereign nation with a Bill of Rights. They promote the concept of being a global citizen of the world cognizant of climate change, sustainability and social justice. Even Scholastic magazine has gone completely green. It’s all about indoctrinating the little ones.
http://www.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3751744
I am trying to warn that the people pushing the Common Core such as Bill Gates and Jeb Bush are working towards global governance, total allegiance to the UN. I think that is a treasonous goal. I know nobody wants to hear about it on this blog. Read Technocracy Rising by Patrick Wood.
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Gotta admit, Dawn, you’re right about Gates and world domination. Microsoft’s been at that for a couple decades now. Jeb, I don’t know. Sounds more like the Donald.
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Dawn,
I believe in separation of church and state. I don’t like theological discussions on this blog. I don’t care how many gods you believe in. Please keep it to yourself.
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Christine, The conspiracy theory is about UN Agenda 21 and it is promoted by anti-government TeaPartiers like the John Birch Society (JBS) and Glenn Beck. It targets folks supporting environmental protections such as Al Gore, but a whole slew of other people are considered baddies as well. Oligarchs who rape the earth and deny climate change like the Koch brothers aren’t mentioned and are presumed innocent, but they’re the puppet masters funding the TeaParty, JBS and global warming deniers.
You can read a general description of the conspiracy theory at the Southern Poverty Law Center here: “Antigovernment Conspiracy Theorists Rail Against UN’s Agenda 21 Program”
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/behind-the-green-mask
Please don’t feed into this.
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I agree
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Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society, that the only justification of his existence is his service to society, and that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own tribal, collective good.
I’d say that sounds pretty treasonous when you think about our founding fathers and the people who died in the Revolutionary War to secure private property rights and to declare a government that would recognize our inalienable God-given rights. This country was founded on the idea that we are individuals created in the image of God and that fact establishes our Bill of Rights.
“The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God … anarchy and tyranny commence. PROPERTY MUST BE SECURED OR LIBERTY CANNOT EXIST” ——-John Adams
“Government is instituted to protect property of every sort …. This being the end of government, that is NOT a just government,… nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has … is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest.” ———–James Madison
Historically, Soviet and Chinese Communist regimes have been nothing more than totalitarian dictatorships. They’ve used Marxist and communist rhetoric as a cover for sheer despotism: criminal gangs seizing power through armed insurrection. Marxist and communist theory has been used as a propaganda tool to hoodwink and brainwash the masses.
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Thanks for the laugh – about what I thought you’d say. Just a hint, in the future it would be helpful if you would actually read what people have to say for themselves rather than swallowing what you’re told to believe they’re saying by these right-wing contortion artists you’re into. I looked up Blumenfeld’s book. Amazon tells me that people who buy that book also buy Ann Coulter’s books. Go figure.
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I suggest that you actually read Sam’s books which number more than ten, written over a lifetime of 89 years, before you flippantly defame a man who is freshly in his grave.
Do not be dissuaded by other people’s poor choice of reading material. I would not recommend Ann, but I would recommend Sam.
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Dawn is right in his instance, and I support her.
But what she is not mentioning is that Scandinavia and Western Europe all have strong socialist, labor, and communist parties that substantially drive a large part of the political landscape, and the wealth base among the people in those countries is far more evenly distributed than it is over here.
Unlike China and Russia, those countries are not oppressive and are far more egalitarian than our country. They do not contend with public education and healthcare issues at all the way we do here.
Please, Dawn. Put socialism in it complete context and not just the perverse one Russia and China generate. They render their version of it and you have taken it as fodder to fuel anti-redistributionist efforts here in the United States.
I hate to say this, Dawn, but as someone whose second language are Spanish and France, who has been going back and forth to France for the last 20 years, and who has quite few socialist friends and relatives there, I can tell you right now that your knowledge of “socialism” and “communism” sound very typically provincial, under-informed, and, well, yes, typically American.
Be careful about cartoon, caricature-like versions of your “isms”.
Almost every European has a minimum of 6 weeks off during the year in private and public sector, plus many Catholic holidays that do not exist here. Their taxes pay for their healthcare so they never have to worry about medical debt; their universities are free or nominal cost, although you are accepted based on entrance exam scores. They offer a robust vocational track as an alternative to an academic one because they still manufacture in Europe, as labor there is far more protected than ours due to unions that behave like real unions. Their crops and livestock are far less adulterated than ours, and their pharmaceuticals and banks are heavily regulated to ensure that people have equitable access to drugs and will not lose the shirt off their backs when the economy goes bad.
That’s not to say that Europe does not have its own problems because it does. They are paying for the sins of their colonialism.
You mention that our founding fathers got away from a totalitarian King who wanted to take away their right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and personal property.
Yet you fail to mention that we, in 2015, now have a smaller series of monarchies that are doing those very things to the citizenry right here in the United States, and these kingdoms are known as ALEC, corporations, and the 1%.
Do you listen to Robert Reich or Bernie Sanders? They will tell you the same.
Dawn, please consider being complete in your critical thinking. You’re too bright not to do so . . . .
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She’s right about socialism meaning that people have “no right” to exist for themselves? Sorry, but she’s not. That’s not what socialism is about at all. It’s about developing every individual’s maximum capacity in a supportive environment, rather than making people survive in isolation in the competitive, everyone-for-themselves system of capitalism. Collective and individual are not diametrically opposed. No individual can develop properly in isolation, as America is working really hard to prove. We’re all in this together and we all do better when society does better and vice versa.
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No. That’s not what I meant at all.
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Dienne,
Dawn’s definition of socialism is all wrong, because she chooses to pose only one side of it. I do support her in saying that our founding fathers and mothers wanted to flee tyranny. Dawn is spot on about that, but she conflates the absence of tyranny – which could result in a free and happy life – with the an absence of socialism.
For goodness sake, we have socialized Medicare to a large extent, our fire departments, our police departments, our schools, and thankfully so. We have been weakening and watering down the social contracts, and if anything, we should relentlessly fight hard against the 1% to gain more equity and strengthen our public goods rather than allowing free market choice solutions to address society’s ills. The latter is the cause of many of those ills.
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Dienne,
You are so generous to Professor Dewey. Pamphlets are designed to be distributed widely to people who would not otherwise read a scholarly article in a magazine about education. It was designed to crush the spreading of her program, to discourage parents who might be interested in enrolling their children with her and it suppressed enrollment for about 30 years. That is not a “response in an open dialogue.” That is economic warfare. Are you being disingenuous?
Kirpatrick went on a campaign against the Montessori method in the 1920s, attacking it in a popular pamphlet. His criticisms helped keep Montessori scarce in the U.S. for about three decades.
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One pamphlet does not make a “campaign”. Why did Montessori not respond? If her methods were better and she could justify them, then her program would have won in the court of public opinion and her schools would have spread like wildfire (which they eventually did anyway). If one can’t even respond to criticisms of one’s methods, maybe one’s methods aren’t all that great after all. People have a right to criticize. They also have a right to respond to criticism. Montessori chose not to.
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Oh, God. Not this again. Will it never end? Please, folks, be sure to use your critical thinking skills because, once again, we have been inundated with propaganda from Dawn, whose life appears to revolve around trying to convince others of her wingnut views and conspiracy theories.
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II pop into this echo chamber every once in a while to put in my 2 cents. You don’t have to like it. Those who have ears will hear. Those who are so threatened by my views will call me names which is unbecoming in civil discourse. I guess that is just a sign of the times.
The Good Book says:
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. ——–2 Timothy 3:1-5
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You overestimate yourself. Ignorance and poor critical thinking skills are particularly disconcerting when coming from someone who is an educator, especially one who espouses unfounded conspiracy theories and who promotes a singular teaching method as if they are an expert and they are not.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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Dawn,
Try commenting opposing views on Hot Air or RedState for an echo chamber. At least here people comment with mostly reasoned response.
I would say many bloggers here DO hear you, they just disagree with your views. It is not evil, godless, persecutory, or conspiratist. I find it troubling my most conservative friends and relatives immediately retreat and attack when their views are challenged. I get excited talking points and personal insults for the slightest suggestion questioning the lockstep march of far right views. Conservatism has become a religion that even Buckley would not recognize today. The lack of reason and the litmus test minded takeover of conservativism by far right ideology is a big reason many of us former conservatives and Reagan Democrats left the movement. Today’s conservatives would do well to listen, especially to youth.
Anyways, as a parent of special needs kids, I do listen. But I could find no true, peer reviewed reasearch linking either whole language or phonetic instruction to causing dyslexia or other reading problems. But I did read more than a few objective studies suggesting teachers need the freedom to try whatever works based on professional judgement and intervention. But I am not a funded researcher able to filter and analyze every claim fired over the internet. So I will leave the research in the hands of people more capable than I. I just hope science is allowed to continue in America.
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Derision doesn’t change minds.
I know things get heated, people get overly defensive and so on.
Try to argue points and merits of ideas, not conjecture about who has read whom in the original, who can think more critically than thou, who can cite more sources than thou.
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Dawn has been polluting these threads with her hateful conspiracy theories for years. Many of us, including me, have tried to patiently and kindly explain her misunderstandings and where she’s been misled. Even on this thread, Elder Wise posted several links showing what research has to say about the matter. But Dawn refuses to listen, read and learn. She knows what she knows like God Himself handed it to her on stone tablets. So, yeah, maybe derision doesn’t work, but it’s no worse than anything else that’s been tried.
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Hear, hear, Dienne!
Yes, this has been going on for much too long and a lot of people here are really fed up with it.
There’s a huge difference between posting people’s personal opinions, while prescribing to the world ONE right way to teach, and works cited of research from credible sources regarding the efficacy of various different practices.
It’s hard to ignore because parents come here who don’t know what’s what. They should be warned that the former is dogma based on the views of right winger Sam Blumenfeld, who was a writer, not an educator, that didn’t believe in public education (and who profited from the homeschooling industry), while the later is information submitted by experienced, expert educators and grounded in science.
People can see Blumenfeld’s bio at the John Birch Society: http://www.jbs.org/speaker-bios/samuel-l-blumenfeld
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cx: latter not later
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Dawn should be free to post within Diane’s guidelines, but we are free to ignore. I no longer respond to other extremist posters and they seem to have moved on.
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MathVale, When it’s your own area of expertise, it’s very difficult to let misconceptions and false information asserted here go unchallenged. The conspiracy theories have been addressed many times before. You can see an example of how Dawn does not let up even when Diane addresses the matter –twice on this page: https://dianeravitch.net/2015/03/02/david-kirp-education-that-really-works/
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John Dewey was a prolific writer and wrote many things which are in direct opposition to other things he has written. So…like a clock with no batteries…he is right twice a day. And yes he may have learned that communism doesn’t end well when he saw his friends die in the Soviet Union but he never wrote a big “mea culpa” piece.
I think some people are painting things with a broad brush that do not need to be understood that way. Obviously, I do not like the Common Core, and its one-size-fits-all approach to education. I do not like sitting children in rows and giving them worksheets. Oral language does come before reading so that singing and story telling and jump rope games were part of my kindergarten classroom. I do believe in teaching a systematic phonics program with no memorization of sight words. There is plenty of research to support this but it doesn’t mean learning to read is no fun.
Why I am continuing to even post on this subject is because Bill Gates is to 2015 what John Dewey was to 1915. Dewey was a philosopher and a prolific writer. Gates is just rich. But they were/are both ideologues who push their ideas onto American educators for political reasons–not because they love children.
When America finds itself under the thumb of the UN, our Constitution having been completely shredded, with our schools replaced by indoctrination centers, remember how we got there. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. The 20th century was the bloodiest century in the history of mankind because a bunch of Utopians thought they had some good ideas about how to run the world. We are headed in the wrong direction. I can see my warnings are unappreciated and misunderstood.
Norman Thomas, a socialist and member of the American Civil Liberties Union, boldly told the world: “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”
John Dewey, known as “the father of modern education,” was an avowed socialist and the co-author of the “Humanist Manifesto.” The U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities discovered that he belonged to 15 Marxist front organizations. Dewey taught the professors who trained America’s teachers. Obsessed with “the group,” he said, “You can’t make socialists out of individualists. Children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society, which is coming, where everyone is interdependent.”
Author Rosalie Gordon, writing about Dewey’s progressive (socialist) education in her book What’s Happened To Our Schools, said: “The progressive system has reached all the way down to the lowest grades to prepare the children of America for their role as the collectivists of the future. The group – not the individual child – is the quintessence of progressivism. The child must always be made to feel part of the group. He must indulge in group thinking and group activity.”
After visiting the Soviet Union, Dewey wrote six articles on the “wonders” of Soviet education. The School-To-Work program, now in our public schools in all 50 states, is modeled after the Soviet poly-technical system.
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Repeatedly harping back to early and mid 20th century literature and supposed conspiracies just demonstrates how out of touch you are with the current research. Throwing in the UN, Gates conspiracy theory to the mix isn’t helping. We’ve already been down that road with you many times before and I for one am not going there again.
I’d strongly suggest you read all the information about more current research studies that has been provided to you on these pages.
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“Academic Overload in Preschool? Report Concludes Earlier is NOT Better”
http://www.bluemangollc.com/academic-overload-in-preschool/
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In response to Reteach 4 America:
You know, it is really unfortunate that some on this blog like to paint everyone with a broad brush as if individuals cannot possibly think for themselves. I am not a member of the John Birch Society, I do not listen to Glenn Beck. I am not a member of the Tea Party. I do not like the Koch Brothers or their treasonous work through ALEC, where they have captured 40% of all state legislators by bribing them with goodies and money to introduce legislation that ALEC corporations have written to benefit the corporations and not the people the legislators supposedly represent.
I do dislike Al Gore, who is a lying, hypocritical, propagandist. He hasn’t chnaged his lifestyle one bit, flying anywhere he wants in his private jet. Oh, but he does buy carbon offsets from his own company to assuage his conscience. I do not believe there is any man-made global warming. I do think there are lots of globalists who have raped the earth with their greedy methods of resource extraction having no compassion on the people or countries that they target. I do not believe in being wasteful or harming the environment. However….
Agenda 21 is an actual book published in 1992, available on Amazon, laying out the globalist plan to inventory and control every resource on the planet, including “human resources,” which is where the data collection mandated by the Common Core comes in. Ignore these facts at your own peril but do not marginalize people who read and want to warn people who are completely unaware of this very public plan. As you can see by the video above, Agenda 21 was embraced by Nancy Pelosi and Eliot Engel back in 1992 and it has been with us ever since. Read the book. Read it and weep for your country that has been targeted for collapse.
“We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?” — Maurice Strong, United Nations Secretary General of the Earth Summit at Rio in 1992
The Common Core is the implementation of Chapter 36 of Agenda 21. The globalists are all in this together. If you think the Koch brothers are any different than Bill Gates, think again. Left wing, right wing, means nothing now. They are all working for global governance. They want to keep you busy attacking me so that you won’t notice what they are doing. I am on your side. Wake up.
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“Agenda 21 and the Republican Fear Machine”
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The label of Democrat or Republican is meaningless. If you understand nothing else, understand that. It won’t matter if Jeb or Hillary make it to the White House. The same agenda, Agenda 21, toward one world governance and some kind of new economic system, is going forward. The dollar is done.
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The conspiratorial fear mongering of Agenda 21 originated in the TeaParty, which is an extremist branch of the GOP that was established by the Koch brothers. The Agenda 21 conspiracy theory is a ploy that was intended to distract people from recognizing the harm caused by billionaire rule and prevent people from seeking alternatives that would cut into their profits and usurp their totalitarian hold, regardless of party since they’ve bought both.
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The real issue is what billionaire fear mongers are trying to hide by distracting people and convincing them to fall for the Agenda 21 conspiracy: “Engineered Inequality” http://billmoyers.com/segment/jacob-hacker-paul-pierson-on-engineered-inequality/
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11/03/blood-and-gore-making-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/
Why do you not understand that the “billionaire fear mongers” include people like Al Gore? He is using Agenda 21, and people’s ignorance, to pretend to engineer equality and social justice, while in fact he is ripping everyone off and laughing all the way to the bank as he is part of the creation of the most unequal economic situation that has existed since the feudal times (which is where they want to take us.)
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And why do you not understand that by spreading fear over the Agenda 21 conspiracy myth, the Koch brothers have convinced people like you that there is no alternative to the authoritarian rule of billionaire overlords, such as through increased regulations and progressive taxes, etc., because, heaven forbid, that would be spreading the wealth and “socialism”? YOU wake up!
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Dawn,
You should be angry at the billionaires, the Koch brothers, and the other members of that elite club. They are the ones who generate and benefit from inequality of income and wealth. John Dewey didn’t inspire income inequality. Follow the money.
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AGENDA 21 – Myths debunked & the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UioAeYW8K8Y
Notice the funders of the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory like the Koch brothers are not opposed to TPP, because that favors multinational corporations, they were involved in writing it and they will be the greatest beneficiaries of it.
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People should read the actual Agenda 21 document that follows and use their critical thinking skills, including considering the corporations that are against it, due to practices that protect and sustain our environment, such as Koch Industries, and then decide for themselves what they think:
Click to access Agenda21.pdf
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Please boycott Koch products, as I have been doing for years: http://www.boycottkochbrothers.com/
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Diane,
I am against the billionaires, the Koch brothers and other elites that are ruining this country by taking all of the money and resource for themselves and their families.
Wouldn’t you consider Bill Gates with his shares in Microsoft and Monsanto to be one of these elites? Wouldn’t you consider David Rockefeller to be one of these elites? They are playing a mind game to make you think they care about the environment and social justice when they do not at all. They want to engineer the future for all of us, like Brave New World, described by one of the elite, Aldous Huxley. That is why they support the UN and the “green movement.” It is a ruse.
In 1952, Congressman Eugene E. Cox headed up a committee that for the first time tried to uncover the Rockefeller’s (and other’s) foundations’ activities.
They were still able to uncover that beginning in the 1930s vast sums of money were spent in Education by the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations. This money went to promote John Dewey, Marxism, a One-World-Government agenda, and Socialism. The foundations (principally the Rockefeller and Carnegie) stimulated two-thirds of the total endowment funding of all institutions of higher learning in America during the first third of this 20th century.
The NEA (National Education Association was largely financed by the Rockefeller/Carnegie foundations. A 1934 NEA report advised, “A dying laissez-faire must be completely destroyed and all of us, including the ‘owners’, must be subjected to a large degree of social control.” Reece Committee Counsel Rene Wormser wrote of the investigation, “…leads one to the conclusion that there was, indeed, something in the nature of an actual conspiracy among certain leading educators in the United States to bring about socialism through the use of our school systems…” They discovered that the Rockefeller foundation was the primary culprit behind the teaching of socialism in America’s schools and universities and also behind the NEA’s policies. Rene Wormser, Counsel for the Reece Committee reported, “A very powerful complex of foundations and allied organizations has developed over the years to exercise a high degree of control over education. Part of this complex, and ultimately responsible for it, are the Rockefeller and Carnegie groups of foundations.”
This was the situation in the 1950s when the Reece Committee briefly investigated. The Rockefeller-Carnegie groups have continued basically unopposed for the next 40 years in controlling education. One of the educational book producers is Grolier, Inc. Avery Rockefeller, Jr. sits on Grolier, Inc. board meetings. Another interesting board member is Theodore WaIler who is the director of Grolier, Inc. He was a member of the International Book Committee of UNESCO. The Rockefellers maintain great influence in the United Nations.
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If you want so much to believe in a conspiracy, read about how the Powell Memo galvanized corporations:
“The Powell Memo: A Call-to-Arms for Corporations”
http://billmoyers.com/content/the-powell-memo-a-call-to-arms-for-corporations/
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Also read, “State Policy Network—The “PR Firm” for ALEC and a Right-Wing Agenda”
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“Koch Brothers EXPOSED: 2014 • FULL DOCUMENTARY FILM”
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“The Powell Memo” in its entirety:
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/
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