Elizabeth Green recently published a book called Building a Better Teacher: How Teaching Works (and How to Teach It to Everyone). It has been widely and favorably reviewed. I have known Elizabeth for about ten years, when she was covering education for the now defunct New York Sun. I like her, and I consider her a friend. Elizabeth is cofounder of Gotham Schools, which is now called Chalkbeat. It is a publication that covers education issues in New York City, Tennessee, Indiana, and Colorado. Chalkbeat is funded by a large number of foundations and individuals, many of whom are prominent in today’s charter school movement (the Gates Foundation, the Walton Foundation, and some board members of the hedge-funders’ Democrats for Education Reform).
Since I know Elizabeth, I have decided to review the book as a letter to her. Somewhat unconventional, but let’s see how it works out.
Dear Elizabeth,
Thank you for sending me galleys of your book. I am sorry to be so late in reviewing it, but better late than never. There were things about the book that I liked very much, and other things that I found puzzling. I will be as honest with you as you would expect me to be.
To begin with, you are certainly a skilled journalist. I like the way you effortlessly weave the stories of individuals into larger themes and use those stories to make a larger point. The book is very well-written, and you manage to inject liveliness and high interest into pedagogical issues, which is no small feat.
You begin the book by strongly asserting that good teachers are made, not born, and that it is a fallacy to believe that some people are just “natural” teachers, while others will never learn no matter how hard they try. Your goal, clearly, is to persuade the reader that anyone, armed with the right training and preparation, can become a good teacher. You had me convinced until you got into the lives of the people you highlight as heroes—like Deborah Loewenberg Ball and Magdalene Lampert—who do seem to have been born to teach, not products of a specific pedagogical training program.
The book seemed to me to be two different books. The first book tells the story of the search for a research-based approach to teaching teachers, drawing on the work of John Dewey, Nathaniel Gage, and Lee Shulman. I thought I knew where you were going. I thought you would visit not only Japan but also Finland, to learn how thoughtfully their teachers are prepared to teach. I liked this book, I was sure it would end up with recommendations for higher standards for entry into teaching, for practice-based internships, for mentors for new teachers, and other ideas that would send new teachers into the classroom with both knowledge and experience, as well as support for them in their early years as teachers.
But suddenly the second book emerges, and the second book says that the problems of teaching are being solved in charter schools run by entrepreneurs. The entrepreneurial sector, in your telling, is doing what the researchers, academicians, and university-based scholars hope to accomplish, and the entrepreneurs are doing it without the benefit of any study of education. This line of thought threw me for a loop, because the teachers in the entrepreneurial sector enter teaching with little or no preparation (i.e., low standards or no standards), just the assurance that they are really smart because they graduated from an Ivy League college or some other top university. Somehow this smacks of class bias. Most of them are in Teach for America, which means they start teaching with only five weeks of training. I got confused. There is no profession that can be entered into with only five weeks of training.
You also have many pages about the “no excuses” charter schools, which you treat with ambivalence. On the one hand, as we are assured by people you quote, the children they enroll—black, Hispanic, and poor—need the tough-love discipline, the rules that can never be broken, the fear of suspension or exclusion or stigma. This boot-camp discipline, they say, makes it possible for the children to learn. On the other hand, you quote graduates who speak of the demoralization of students, who know that the school intends to crush their spirit, and who “hated school.”
What often appears to be an admiring portrait of the “no excuses” charter schools is tempered by this statement about Academy of the Pacific Rim:
“The first year, Doug Lemov and Stacey Boyd had started out with a class of fifty-five or so seventh-graders. But by the time that class made it to senior year, only eleven students remained. And three of them had only joined later on, in ninth grade.” (p. 203) Elizabeth, you recognize the problems and contradictions, but you render no judgment other than to include facts like these. A graduating class that contains only 8 of the 55 students who started is hardly a portrait of a model school or a beacon for American education.
I may have missed it, but I didn’t see data on teacher attrition at either “no excuses” charter schools or charter schools in general. From other sources, we know that teacher attrition is high; the teachers are inexperienced, and (as you point out) the hours are exceptionally long, set with the assumption that teachers do not have families or personal lives. We know that TFA corps members are typically gone after three or four years. How, under these circumstances, can entrepreneurial charters—with their high teacher churn—be seen as laboratories where excellent teaching is being developed and is, in fact, already happening? If it is happening, why do as many as 50% of the teachers leave some of the most successful charters every year?
What seems strangest about the book to me is its detachment from the real world of mandates and demands by federal and state authorities, punishments and rewards, school closings and political interference with teaching. Your account does not reflect the atmosphere of teacher-bashing, the hunt for “the bad teacher,” the demoralization that so many teachers express today. Nor does it dwell on the current obsession with test-based accountability that has made many teachers feel that they are disrespected and are not allowed to exercise any professional judgment. You set up a dichotomy between accountability and autonomy, but surely you know that the scales are heavily weighted by federal policy against any autonomy for teachers. A profession that lacks autonomy is not a profession.
Elizabeth, I hope you will not be offended by my candor. I found the book well-written and engaging. I was hoping that you would make a case for developing a stronger teaching profession, but that is not what the charter sector will produce; it relies on a constant turnover of low-wage teachers, and whatever they learn in the classroom will be lost when they move on to a different career. I appreciated your footnote at the bottom of p. 156, where you write that “Multiple studies of charter school performance have shown that the schools often perform just as poorly as the district-run schools they seek to outdo. And across the country, charter schools have been the victim of the same inefficiency and corruption challenges that plague neighborhood public schools.” That’s almost right. I don’t know of any public school superintendent or principal who has built a multi-million dollar mansion in Palm Beach like a certain charter entrepreneur in Pennsylvania or acquired a multi-million yacht like a certain charter entrepreneur in Florida. Absent regulation and oversight, there is even more corruption in the entrepreneurial charter sector than in the public schools.
In the end, I don’t think you demonstrate how to build a better teacher. You show that a lot of people are trying to do so. You show that there is a longing for a coherent system of standards, tests, and accountability, but behind that longing is the behaviorist belief that teachers should teach to the same standards, and students will do well on the tests. If that’s coherence, it’s pretty well played out. That’s what we have been trying to do since No Child Left Behind was passed, and after 13 years, it seems to be a dead end. I have no doubt that we need better teacher preparation at the university level (Finland requires five years of teacher education, and a master’s degree for every teacher). But even with a long period of preparation, I doubt that every teacher will adopt and implement the same methodology. What strikes me, as I reflect on your very provocative book, is the urgency of establishing professional norms that protect teachers against legislators, politicians, philanthropists, for-profit entrepreneurs, and non-educators who want to play school.
Oh thank you, thank you–for a spot-on and comprehensive review of the book. I, too, wrote nice things about Green’s work after reading an article in “Inside Higher Ed” where she wrote about the lengthy, reflective process of becoming master teacher. Then I read the book. There is zero correlation between what Maggie Lampert and Deborah Ball were doing at Michigan State and what Doug Lemov did in “Teach Like a Champion”–a fact Green seems to miss entirely.
Here is my review of ed-books I read in 2014, including Green’s:
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/teacher_in_a_strange_land/2014/12/best_and_worst_ed-books_of_2014_an_oddball_list.html
Ms. Green has as much credibility as Richard Whitmire. As Caroline Grannan repeatedly points out, no one backs corporate ed reform unless he or she is being paid to do so.
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Jack. Green may have missed some things, but she has credibility. Ravitch doesn’t argue that. You don’t have to do the profession to write about it. The book doesn’t provide much for the reformers to crow about. I guess you’ve read the book?
Some of the least-informed “reformers”–including those with fairly obvious privatization agendas–have great public credibility, unfortunately. And I would respectfully qestion your assertion that the only folks who back corporate reform are paid to do so. Many, probably most, are getting some kind of compensation, yes–but there are lots of reformy types out there who simply think that any organization with “Democrats” in its name (like DFER) must be right. Or that anyone with any Ivy League degree is smarter and more credible than a mere teacher who went to State U. They’re aligned with reformers, because of their similar background or politics, not money.
Most of the folks who are pro-“reform” (charter school operators, short-term teacher providers, etc) are grant-funded or in a category where grant money indirectly funds their research or advocacy work, true. But just as likely is the syndrome of “my friends believe this, so I do, too”–and that cuts both ways in education.
Elizabeth Green is like the TFA/Charter-starter folks. Educated in private schools, went to Harvard, got a leg up via connections. It’s hard for people like that to believe that there are dynamic, intelligent, creative folks toiling away in public education, becoming champion teachers and demanding respect without employing dehumanizing disciplinary policies– and doing it for decades, often in schools in tough neighborhoods.
While I think Green has credibility and is a fine writer, she’s missing the lived experience of teaching. In her last chapter, she expounds at some length about her day “teaching” under an experienced veteran–how intensively she planned, how nerve-wracking it was, how some kids responded well, how she (sort of) won over a tough student. Honestly? It was embarrassing to read, and revealed more about her than the art and science of pedagogy.
“Educated in private schools . . . ”
I haven’t finished the book yet, but I have gotten past page 17 of the print edition, where the author notes that she attended public schools in Montgomery County, MD.
Chalkbeat relies on funding from the charter lobby – they get what they buy.
“There is no profession that can be entered into with only five weeks of training.”
Well, actually, there is one.
But that may not be the best model for teaching, though it is a model that some very influential folks have followed (quite literally) with verve.
You are, of course, talking about the oldest profession, no? The only other profession I can think of where experience, especially extensive experience, is considered a drawback.
“The Oldest Profession*”
A single night of training
Will certainly suffice
Replete with lots of feigning
And money, sex and lies
*politics, naturally
Thank you, again, Dr. Ravitch
– for nailing what teaching is actually like for teachers
– for speaking up for those of us who are heartbreakingly voiceless
– for objecting to the ignorant opinions being expressed about teaching by those who are clueless
You are a precious resource for teachers.
My take after several readings of the book is that it may not have all the answers, but it points at some very positive directions.
As I read it I also saw many parts like the the no excuses as easy targets for the knee-jerk anti-reformers. But each time my hackle started to rise, I realized she also pointed out the limitations. She built them up, then pulled the rug.
The most valuable thing I believe she did is focus on teaching – the craft and how hard it is to do.
That’s something sorely missing in all the rhetoric, even in this blog about policy.
Even when we win the war against testing and faux evaluation, and all that, we still need to support and build what we do – teaching.
And that takes the whole system.
Peter Smyth, as I said in the review, I did not see how no-excuses charters and following Doug Lemov’s list of rules connects to the pursuit of a research-based pedagogy. The no-excuses folk, as Elizabeth says, scorn schools of education where the researchers work. I do not see no-excuses discipline as the wave of the future or as a foundation for teacher professionalism.
It seems she hasn’t answered Mike Rose’s question of “How can our schools get better when we’ve made our teachers the problem and not the solution?”
“On the one hand, as we are assured by people you quote, the children they enroll—black, Hispanic, and poor—need the tough-love discipline, the rules that can never be broken, the fear of suspension or exclusion or stigma.”
Is there any possible way to argue that such a viewpoint isn’t racist?
Dienne, the peculiar no-excuses harsh discipline methods seem to be designed especially for black children, with the claim that their parents want it. Racist? I agree with you. Sounds colonialist. Disciplining the “natives” for their own good.
It’s based on the ridiculous notion that poor/minority kids don’t get “discipline” at home (and “discipline” almost invariably means “punishment”). In fact, poor and minority kids tend to get punished at home significantly more than affluent white kids.
I continue to find it difficult to tell why emphasizing discipline and order in charter schools is racist while emphasizing discipline and order in urban parochial schools isn’t racist. When I hear “colonialist,” the first thing that comes to my mind is the Catholic Church, not Success Academy.
I think the Catholic Church has been, and often continues to be, guilty of a good deal of colonialism. From my understanding, though (rarely having set foot in a Catholic school), they have eased up considerably on the “discipline”.
FLERP!: I think you bring up an interesting point. My partial take on this.
Time period. 30 or 40 years ago, when mentioning large urban schools, “discipline and order” would have brought to mind—at least to mine—Catholic schools. And that would be based, for me at least, on hearing many many folks tell me their experiences as students in such schools. Sometimes the “jokes” got so rough I gently responded that enough was enough. After all, the laughter starts to get thin the tenth or twentieth time someone tells a joke about Sister So-and-so sharply rapping [sometimes to the point of bruising and/or swelling] knuckles or Brother So-and-so vigorously over-applying a paddle to a behind—all the while telling the hapless victim that they were only doing it for their own good and that they should think of it as God punishing them. All this while Sister or Brother was obviously a bit out of control and angry and hardly had God on her/his mind…
Today, the sort of “discipline and order” employed in many charter schools is a magnified version of that old time tradition, minus the “God is applying the punishment” admonishments.
I am not against “discipline and order.” While too complex to go into, it depends on how one defines that phrase. Consider how the leading charterites/privatizers define and redefine “student achievement/performance” so as to mislead and gain advantage, so one must be careful when they call for “discipline and order.”
Take just one aspect of that: cui bono? IMHO, too often charter schools of the “no excuses” variety misuse that phrase to justify excusing themselves from dealing effectively with long term benefits for all by making their own work easier by meting out humiliating beat downs to ensure short-term outward obedience. Don’t like it? There’s always counseling out and pushing out and midyear dumps and the rest—with the pr machine still proclaiming that charters take on just the same kinds of students that public school take on. And 100% graduation rates to boot!
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With all due respect, at this point I tend to agree with Dienne and dianeravitch on this.
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“Today, the sort of “discipline and order” employed in many charter schools is a magnified version of that old time tradition, minus the “God is applying the punishment” admonishments.”
Are you really saying that it many charter schools today use discipline techniques that are more brutal (i.e. “magnified”) than the corporal punishment formerly practiced in Catholic schools? How “many charter schools” do you think this is happening in? Is this just a gut feeling you have, or have these incidents been documented?
I’ve never set foot in a charter school.
I spent a year in a Catholic school about 30 years ago. I found it extraordinarily oppressive and in a couple instances disturbingly creepy. I was left with the impression that there are real risks and downsides to combining the authoritarian aspects of school with the authoritarian aspects of religion.
No beatings, though. The knuckle-rapping was out of fashion by that time.
FLERP!: sorry to hear that you didn’t have a good experience in a Catholic school.
I must add that I have known folks, including a fine English teacher who is Jewish, who sent his daughter to a Catholic middle school near where he worked in the HS where I was a SpecEd TA, and he and his daughter were very pleased with the school.
As usual, initial formulations can be a bit misleading. I don’t think the physical harshness is so prevalent precisely because so many heavyweights in the charter chains just get rid of the test suppressors and behavior problems and out-of-control students.
They dump them back in the public schools. Then they call their failures the failures of the public schools. It’s a twofer. And as misleading, dishonest and immoral as it gets.
Thank you for your comments.
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I toured a relatively fancy Catholic school in Manhattan years ago when my daughter was just entering school. I felt like I was in the Stepford Wives movie. Kids walking in straight lines. Drawings of Jesus on the art wall. I remember scanning the other parents for a glimpse of “Are you serious??” in their faces. They all seemed to love it. Either I’m terrible at reading faces, or there are a lot of parents who truly do want for their children things that I don’t want for mine.
I think the (former) Catholic approach and the charter approach differ in important respects. The Catholic approach is about punishment for sins. Punishment was inflicted on the body to purify the soul.
The charter school approach is all about control up front. If you dictate exactly what students wear, how they behave, when they talk and what they’re allowed to say, how they walk down the hall, how they sit at their desk and track the teacher, etc., then there’s no room for behavior problems. It’s a climate of total control and conformity.
I’m not a fan of either, but if I had to choose, I’d take getting swatted across the back of my hand as the price to pay for being allowed at least a modicum of individuality.
I sort of take your point here, but I think you may be overstating it. You got whacked for shooting a spitwad because you were violating the rules of conduct, not because your soul needed purification. Discipline and punishment are always about exercising control and enforcing a kind of conformity.
If the whackee is told that the whacking is not really punishment but is actually a form of purification, that just takes it to the next level of control. That’s 2+2=5 territory. Pain is pleasure, war is peace.
But this is getting a bit abstract.
I don’t know if poor white children get different treatment. There are more of them although the percentage of minority children living in poverty is far higher. Since minority children in urban settings seem to have been targeted by the charter industry, it is easy to catalog the obvious stereotyping. The again, I have seen loving black parents treat their children with very harsh discipline. The argument in support of such methods has to do with armoring them before they are confronted by an abusive, racist society. Training their kids to never step out of line for any reason was described as protective. Can someone who has more direct experience (I am white) respond?
cx: Then again,
I taught Haitian ELL students for most of my career. I have heard about and seen some of the harsh discipline first hand. I’ve even had fathers offer to come in and “beat their child” in front of the class when conduct was an issue. We had a Haitian liaison work with the families to help them work on alternatives to physical punishment. Many parents thought we were too soft, but we kept the parents and children from being a CPS case. Often I was often the only white face in the room. What worked was being firm, consistent and respectful. Most of my students returned that respect to me in kind; and for those that didn’t we worked on setting up a plan and set up some achievable goals. We tried to make positive changes. Most students were able to work on their issues. Some of the kids wanted to talk about the cruelty they experienced in the name of “discipline.” Most of all we worked on being engaged and focused on learning. You may need a prison like environment for sociopaths; but most kids want to know that you are trying to do your best to help them, and they have to follow some rules to do this.
Dear Diane, Thank you for that honesty.
I too know, or rather knew, Elizabeth.
She actually gave a keynote speech several years ago at a WISE Services conference at the Queens High School for Teaching. At the time I thought she was an knowledgable and engaging young journalist who understood what good teaching and what good programs like WISE were all about.
I stayed in contact with her for a while, even offering her my book on what good teaching is and how TFA is both hype and hurt (and that you favorably reviewed, thank you). She didn’t hear or choose to listen.
As she grew in her roles from NY Times Schoolbook, to Chalkbeat, I think she changed as her circles expanded to those who favored ed reform. Thus the conflict you see.
Down deep I think she may get it, but she has been swayed. That is a shame.
We do know what makes good teaching and what makes good teachers better. We also know that just as any other profession, there are people with natural talents that need to develop their skills and that there are those with less talent who must do the best they can with whatever skills they have developed. Either way it is a combination of nature and nurture that gives us the best teachers.
From the book reviewed in the above posting to such monumental efforts (backed by humongous amounts of money) like the Gates Foundation MET [Measures of Effective Teaching] study.
Occam’s Razor. Even you don’t have facial hair, let’s use it.
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Still don’t get my drift? As an experienced TA I am here to help. THE DEATH AND LIFE OF THE GREAT AMERICAN SCHOOL SYSTEM (Diane Ravitch, 2011 paperback edition, revised and expanded, p. 3):
[start quote]
School reformers sometimes resemble the characters in Dr. Seuss’s Solla Sollew, who are always searching for that mythical land “where they never have troubles, at least very few.” Or like Dumbo, they are convinced they could fly if only they had a magic feather. In my writings, I have consistently warned that, in education, there are no shortcuts, no utopias, and no silver bullets. For certain, there are no magic feathers that enable elephants to fly.
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That “shrill” and “strident” woman not your cup of tea? Try H. L. Mencken:
“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”
Especially when that simple answer is eduprenenurship that seeks the greatest return on investment by monetizing children, accomplished by taking proven failures like management by fear, stacked ranking of teachers and students, selective enrollment and retention policies, and merit pay, and then doubling down on them every time they predictably crash and burn.
Just sayin’…
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“VAMming for Godot”
Dr. Seuss had nothin’
On current school reformers
Nor did Hatter, nor did Munchkin
Nor Ringling Bro’s performers
Reformers set the bar
By VAMming for Godot
And not so very far
Above the ground below
In an interview with a 29 year old mechanical engineer this weekend, the following statement was made, “The last in is the first out.” This was in regards to a recent job change from Northrup Grumman to Johns Hopkins University Physics position. The engineer said the experienced people are valued so are kept over the more recent hires. The engineer also said the more education in terms of Masters level degrees and PHDs held by an employee earn you larger salaries. That is the private sector so that should apply to teaching positions everywhere. Experience gives a person the right to earn higher pay and additionally be more protected during downsizing. Since teachers salaries aren’t competitive with the private sector and the skills so undervalued “others” see teachers as replaceable and that is exactly why unions developed with industrialization and are necessary today especially in regards to the field of education even if unions aren’t void of imperfections.
“The first year, Doug Lemov and Stacey Boyd had started out with a class of fifty-five or so seventh-graders. But by the time that class made it to senior year, only eleven students remained. And three of them had only joined later on, in ninth grade.” (p. 203) Elizabeth, you recognize the problems and contradictions, but you render no judgment other than to include facts like these. A graduating class that contains only 8 of the 55 students who started is hardly a portrait of a model school or a beacon for American education.
The above is so spot-on. I could do better by randomly selecting a group of students off the street and have a better rate of success. This isn’t a model of education it is an example of Social Darwinism.
Mark Collins: what you wrote.
And let’s do a little charterite/privatizer math, shall we?
8 ÷ 55 = 15% [rounded up to the nearest percent]. So that’s a failure rate of 85%.
So let me employ the language of self-proclaimed “education reform” to—
Itself.
Academy of the Pacific Rim: “A graduating class that contains only 8 of the 55 students who started is hardly a portrait of a model school or a beacon for American education.” [see above posting]
Academy of the Pacific Rim = a “factory of failure.”
Remember, this is the language and bedrock POV of the “hard data points” crowd that worships at the feet of “data-driven instruction & management.”
Can anyone dispute these figures? Can anyone deny that my application of charterite/privatizer math standards to one of their own isn’t rock solid?
“I reject that mind-set.” [Michelle Rhee]
I expected that, but understand that she’s speaking in a Johnsonally sort of way…
Rheeally!
But just like her stating that standardized test time is just 1.7% of classroom time, she’s wrong.
Really!
Link: http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com/2014/04/why-is-michelle-rhee-wrong-about.html
But, but, but, surely that’s not true of self-styled “education reform” in general, is it?
Let’s riff off Henny Youngman for the appropriate answer:
“The secret of education reform is still a secret.”
And we didn’t even need an old dead Greek guy.
Go figure. [A numbers/stats joke]
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If you will allow me to put both of your ideas to verse
“Be-gones of Hope”
A be-gone not a beacon
A factory of failure
Academy of Pacific Rim
Is not a public savior
make the last line
“There’s not a lot to hail there”
You really nailed Elizabeth’s “oversights”, Dianne. As we are confronted more and more with these blended, yet divergent perspectives on education, I am reminded of Reagan’s transition from Democrat to Republican. Perhaps, Elizabeth has followed a similar path. It takes ten years to experience enough daily interaction with students to become a professional instructor. The slap, dab approach of TFA is scary. Long term teachers are invariably the preferred choice of parents, and there’s a reason for that. It would be interesting to find out how many “seasoned” teachers instruct our President’s daughters at their Washington DC Quaker Friends School. Were we able to exclude politics, capitalism and entrepreneurs from our educational process, our nation’s public schools would fare much better.
I read this book and, like Dr. Ravitch, enjoyed the narrative descriptions of actual math classes, and the attention to what teachers and students are thinking and feeling as school unfolds. Like her, I was also puzzled by the idea that “edupreneurs” are solving the problems that have stymied teachers, schools, and teacher-educators. Did the author visit any colleges of education besides Michigan, or any of the many successful public schools around the country? I think part of the reason “edupreneurs” see themselves as innovators is simply that they haven’t attended colleges of education and don’t know that their “innovative” techniques, methods they believe they have invented to solve problems of learning and classroom management, have existed for decades. (In his book, Doug Lemov suggests that his friend is the originator of “I do – we do – you do.” Really?) Yet far from merely handing down received wisdom, good colleges of education both teach about curriculum, instruction and school structures as they exist now, and open fruitful avenues for investigation, experimentation, and innovation as schools evolve. As Robert Maynard Hutchins once said, the purpose of professional school is to critique the profession.
Green’s book in many ways falls short of developing an argument for policies and practices that would “Build a Better Teacher.” I think the story of Deborah Ball implies that it would be useful for colleges of education to have strong relationships with individual schools, as in the old system of demonstration schools or laboratory schools. But Green does not make this call explicitly. Also implied is the need for teachers to have more time to study their craft, practice new approaches, and improve their work. A review by Sarah Mosle in the Atlantic identifies the huge structural impediments to implementing a lesson-study or apprenticeship approach in our country, where “on the scale of time devoted by teachers to in-class instruction annually, the United States is off the charts.” (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/09/building-better-teachers/375066/) Green is indeed an observant reporter, but this effort of hers, as Mosle writes, “cries out for a look at the bigger picture.”
Gloria41488, I think we’re on the same page here with the positives and shortcomings. But I think it’s important that folks don’t miss the point – that we have to focus on teaching.
I believe the impediments get insurmountantable only when we stay in the mindset that everything has to be done systemwide, state wide, or even nationwide.
But I’m convinced that schools are the basic unit of education. So if building the conditions for better teaching has to be done school by school, so be it.
Agreed. But I also think schools benefit from the wisdom and experience from other schools. Some model schools generously share all that they do, inviting other schools and districts to learn about and participate in their models. But the current fads are all about competition, and competition creates powerful incentives not to share. If you are a business competing for customers, you guard your trade secrets. If you are a school competing in a “choice” market, or a school competing with other public schools for a top slot in the test rankings, or a teacher competing with other teachers in a stack-ranking or merit-pay system, or a district competing for scarce federal funds, then you’d best not let anyone know how you do what you do. If our goal as a society is to educate as many children as possible, as well as we possibly can, then this sort of competition and secrecy is simply poisonous.
Review-Like.
“… the urgency of establishing professional norms that protect teachers against legislators, politicians, philanthropists, for-profit entrepreneurs, and non-educators who want to play school.”
Nothing else to say.
Elizabeth Green is both a skilled journalist, in that she can embed her biases in her writing while semi-credibly keeping up the appearance of “objectivity,” and an ed reform shill.
The title of her book says it all, since it implies that teachers are to be passive recipients of ideas coming from the kind of people she reports on in Charterbeat (which is what her site should really be called, given the weight of its coverage), and the people who fund it.
Who are the straw men she refers to, who claim that teachers must be “born,” and cannot be developed? I’ve never encountered one. Yet, by setting up such a fallacy, she breaks the trail for her primary purpose, which is to justify and accelerate the increasing loss of professional autonomy that teachers face every day, turning over the classroom to entrepreneurial, pseudo-scientific frauds like Lemov.
In the middle of reading this book colleagues asked me how was it and I gave the book high praise. Then exactly as you said the book went “reformy.” The endless praise for people with no experience starting terrible Charter Schools as models almost made me gag. It is too bad such a gifted writer sold her soul to Bloomberg and his ilk.
Actually, Diane, Elizabeth first worked for the NY Daily News before she moved over to the Sun. To help her get “trained,” her editor at the NYDN suggested that she call and ask me to “tell her everything I know about education.” I was an education researcher at the time, and a public school activist, so I looked upon this request as an opportunity to ground this new reporter in actual facts about the public school system. I remember her as being bright but also amazingly ignorant about ordinary people and what they yearned for in their public schools. I also saw she had the conceit of many Ivy League graduates who know they are much smarter than everyone else and can therefore become “experts” pretty quickly in a field populated by less intelligent folks.I guess I thought she was a snob. I followed her writing for a few years, always hoping that she’d see the light. Sadly, like so many in her social set, she seemed to fall for the right wing narrative about the kind of education the “urban poor” needs.
Where do these people get their chutzpah from?
Diane, as I told you in an email, thanks so much for this very thoughtful attention to my book. I also meant to point out that our funding sources at Chalkbeat are diverse — a goal we work hard to achieve, because we believe that the more diverse our funding sources, the stronger our editorial independence can be. So along with Gates and Walton (each of which has its own very different perspective) Chalkbeat receives support from the Ford Foundation and several teachers unions, which sponsor our work.
Dorothy, I’m very sorry and embarrassed to hear I came across that way to you. For what it’s worth, I never worked at the Daily News. Perhaps you’re remembering someone else, or perhaps someone else introduced us.
Also, the commenter who pointed out that I did attend public — not private — schools through high school is accurate. I believe, like some people here, that a person’s background and privilege are relevant and inescapable constraints worth paying attention to. I also believe — perhaps along with Peter Smyth? — that if we restrict discussion of the work of teaching to those who have taught we are hampering progress.
Ms. Green, I happy to see that you read Diane’s blog, it’s a source of strength to many teachers, myself among them.
What are thoughts on her review…? I read your book, and I had the same concerns mentioned here… I would like to know if your thoughts have evolved any…
What thoughts on Finland, and their teacher preparation?
Do you see the deep and abiding problems in charter schools?
What about TFA? Do you believe these people are being properly trained? What about the class bias inherent to the TFA program?
Most importantly, what are your thoughts on the attack on the teachers? Is it just something we deserve …?
I will say that I know your book is being used to berate some very good teachers. I have seen more than one principal hold it up as augment to their evaluation procedures for the year… The meta message being, “If we don’t see some of this, there are going to be problems.”
Thoughts on that?
I hope my tone is clear, I am asking these questions sincerely, and I have nothing but respect for you. Anyone willing wade into the morass of “ED-Politick” as you have is worthy of nothing less.
James — On the theory that a hastily written and incomplete reply is better than no reply, here are a few thoughts:
* I obviously see more connections between the work of teacher educators and researchers like Deborah Ball, Magdalene Lampert, Pam Grossman, and Carol Lee and the work of “entrepreneurial” world leaders like Doug Lemov than Diane and commenters on her blog do. I also see tensions, which I wrote about. The biggest tension has to do with different visions of what teaching should look like. I think these differences are mainly to do with standardized test scores, which influenced the “entrepreneurial” world more than the academic university-based world.
* What I think the no-excuses charter schools have to offer is they have successfully built an infrastructure to support good teaching that goes beyond the ridiculous false choice that prevails among policymakers of either autonomy only or accountability only. Folks have correctly pointed out that the infrastructure isn’t perfect; the healthiest charter school networks still struggle in many ways, including with teacher turnover. But I think the evidence supports that several of these networks have successfully built coherent, supportive, learning-oriented work environments.
* What’s hard about the above insight is the implied theory of change for getting to scaled infrastructure that would serve all teachers and students, which is that we should scale charter networks and have them serve anyone. I certainly do not endorse that idea (I don’t endorse any specific policy prescription — I don’t think that’s my job as a journalist). If we were to pursue this theory of change, there would be serious costs, which have been pointed out very well in many places by Diane among others.
* What do I think of Teach For America? I think that they have invested a huge amount in professionalizing their teacher training — both in-service and pre-service — as they realized over time just what specialized work teaching is. I also think — contrary to my impression before taking on this reporting, which was of an organization that was insular and very Koolaid-drinking/pouring — that they have been an example of the way the entrepreneurial world truly learns and changes over time. One example there is their strong embrace of the importance of a racially diverse teaching corps. Today TFA’s teacher corps reflects a different makeup than it did when TFA launched, and one that is in several cases more diverse than other sources of new teachers.
These are just a few thoughts – hope useful!
I’m sure there will be scathing rebuttals to Green’s post. But it deserves careful reading. She doesn’t paint charters, TFA, entrepreneurs, no-excuses as golden rings.
Maybe we, as professional educators need to take up the challenge and work on what it takes to move teaching forward instead of being the profession of no. What does quality teaching look like and what does it take to build and support it?
Then we have a powerful argument for what we want, not what we don’t want..
Lloyd and I and others here, often talk about what BEST PRACTICE looks like ,or better stated, what IS REQUIRED FOR LEARNING to occur…the subject of the real national Standards, by the way… which I discussed in earlier posts.
The American Educator and the NPE are devoted to best practice.
The problem is that the narration in the media, and the mandates and policies are directed by the corporate entities that direct everything.
They hollowed out our government, as Milton Friedman knew and Naomi Klein discusses in the book, and the money for education is gone. The macrocosm of economics affects the microcosm which is the education bureaucracy..
Btu what do I know.
As you might expect, Elizabeth, I disagree with your assessment of the teaching practices in entrepreneurial schools and TFA. I see no connection between the researchers seeking a scientific basis to the art of teaching, and I think TFA is an insult to the concept of professionalism. No profession admits people with five weeks of training as highly qualified professionals.
Thank you for this review, Ms. Ravitch.
Thank you, Diane. You have pointed out the way propagandists write. Excellent propaganda contains a germ of truth that nobody can deny, then spins it off in its intended propaganda direction to convince us of whatever was chosen for a conclusion. Elizabeth Green began with a few truths and wove those truths into the standardized corporate education reform solutions of standardization and privatization.
During my 34 years of teaching in the public schools, I never had a single standardized child as a student. Standardized curriculum and standardized tests are unfit for every child by definition.
Huzza to you, Diane. I’m assuming it’s OK if we share this letter to/review of Elizabeth Green’s Building a Better Teacher: How Teaching Works (and How to Teach It to Everyone)?
It always surprises me when observers with relatively limited experience in the training of teachers come up with dictums like “teachers are [always] made, [never] born.” It’s a very healthy and helpful perspective to have when working with beginning teachers, but not a single semester goes by when one does not quietly single out the gifted few from the non-gifted many. And the obverse, sad to say, for all that Lamov might hope that everyone can indeed be taught to “teach like a champion.”
Keeping relatively quiet about these observations constitutes, to my mind, one of the arts of effective teacher training.
To Tim, Peter Smyth, and FLERP:
Tim, please learn how to participate in the main point of the topic “Building a Better Teacher: How Teaching Works”
Peter, according to your conclusion without solution and without definition of “teaching” and “whole system” as in
“Even when we win the war against testing and faux evaluation, and all that, we still need to support and build what we do – teaching.
And that takes the whole system.”
IMHO, teaching needs to be PATIENCE, understanding, motivation, flexibility and caring for the learners in order to CULTIVATE them how to appreciate, treasure, respect and fight for the civilization, humanity, and civil rights. As a result, a better teacher will only be a champion, and the teaching works whenever students/learners are proud to be conscientious citizens and always enjoy learning for life into their golden age.
FLERP, thank you for your own experience and confirmation that any kind COMBINATION of AUTHORITARIAN aspect whether it is in school, in religion, in workforce, in POLITICS and in any organization (like UNION) will not be acceptable to learners, workers of both blue and white collars. So please join NPE to maintain the AMERICAN EDUCATION AUTONOMY.
Here are your words:
“I spent a year in a Catholic school about 30 years ago. I found it extraordinarily oppressive and in a couple instances disturbingly creepy. I was left with the impression that there are REAL RISKS and downsides to combining the AUTHORITARIAN aspects of school with the authoritarian aspects of religion.”
If all readers are truly conscientious educators and non-educators, please stand tall and unite to fight back any oppression that will not only RUIN our career, family, meaningful lives, but also HARM our children generation to be robots and modern slavery WITHOUT ANY CHANCE to learn with creativity.
Please observe and learn from communist countries around the world. With interaction within your fingertip, and with your logical mind, please critically examine and analyze the SOLID reason that RICH, EDUCATED, TALENTED and POWERFUL people migrate to USA, CANADA, GERMANY, and AUSTRALIA…
Nobody can be healthy and live forever. Nobody can bring wealth with them, except fame and shame after death. However, we will definitely get whatever we sow the seed of kindness or cruelty. Just be kind to ourselves so that our surrounding will be peaceful.
Back2basic.
I love stories. Thomas Moore says: The infinite inner space of a story is its soul…when we allow a story its soul we can discover our own depths from it.” He warns how stories can be stripped by literalism of their meaning and reduced to a brittle shell, stripping the reader of the hard work where we discover our own depth through it. “it protects us from the hard work of finding our participation in meaning.”
I have read several manuscripts by teachers which tell a story, as I look for my own way to tell the story of the destruction of publics schools , not merely through neglect but by ending the profession of pedagogy and the careers of the dedicated people who came to it.
When I first read Lorna’Stremcha’s manuscript, it was called “Sins of the Schools.” I was stunned as I saw for the first time, something that I and missed when I had returned to teaching a decade after raising my sons, and top-down management had replaced the bottom-up instruction designed by the teacher-practitioner.
But it was in her story were the darker elements, like “doubt, hopelessness and emptiness, that Moore says are ‘winnowed out” when stories are literal, factual ones.
I do not know why Lorna’s book is eventually published as a novel. Perhaps, to avoid legalities, but I can tell you this, in her story is the crucial element that underlies what happened to the public schools when there was no accountability for any behaviors by administration. The physical assault that the principal of her school engineered and permitted is still, to me, the most startling of all the stories that I have heard.
This book has soul, and it will resonate with teaches because it addresses more that the facts, the process and the corruption. I recommend “Bravery, Bullies and Blowhards” by Lorna Stremcha.
Happy New Year Susan:
Please let me know whether you will go to NPE conference on April 25 and 26, 2015 in Chicago. I have ordered two day-ticket for you through Dr. Ravitch.
My working schedule and family affairs are so overwhelmed, so that I do not have time for personal pleasure. I will definitely get in touch with you in your website soon.
I guess that stories from my mother, sisters, cousins and many acquaintances who are in the teaching profession in Vietnam will be similar to your recommended book by Lorna Stremcha. We can sum up in one or few words in a talent-less leadership which represents corruption, greed, ego, and no conscience in humanity. Cheers. May
Dear May, Please message me with your email at oped so I can write to you directly.
I was thrilled that you did this, and surprised.
I almost missed Diane’s post, and for a moment, could not figure out who was so kind as to send me to this conference, as there was not communication to me, of this, whatsoever… although I might have missed the email…possibly… but…
My hubby and thought we might book a flight when I have more information as to where I will stay, and what other expenses are involved. I am totally in the dark, as the only info I have was on that post.
As we will be in Chicago, we could possibly visit with friends , which include activist Karen Howitz , or I can fly alone, if I knew I would not be alone. I have never met Duane and do not even known who Krazy TA is, or if Diane or anyone I know will be there.
http://endteacherabuse.org/
http://www.whitechalkcrime.com/karen-horwitz/karen-horwitz-story/
But I want to do this. Apparently, my voice is being heard, and I want to add my unique voice to the narrative that MUST TAKE PLACE.
There is so much more afoot, and I need to speak to you.
Message me
http://www.opednews.com/author/author40790.html
, or ask Diane for my email.
Many thanks.
Susan
Susan, go to the Network for Public Education website for details. The events are at the Drake Hotel.
Hi Susan:
Your website operates from Explorer which is controlled by Microsoft (=Bill Gate). Explorer flashes the sign of “WHOA”, and a warning sentence that your website might content a dangerous virus to harm readers’ files/computer.
I do not know if you are aware of this tactic from Bill Gate. How much you can control your website? I read that readers’ email will be publicly listed if we want a feedback from editor in your website.
Although at the HIGH end, the authority can discover where we live, how much we earn for a living, and what is our daily habit/hobbies…as reader, I am more comfortable with Dr. Ravitch website and her impartial style – just logical and professional in humanity aspect. Cheers. May
Excuse me.
I have never seen that “Whoa”.
I use Safari to go there, not Explorer.
I will discuss this with Register.com, the server that hosts the site.
Thank you. Can you send me a screen capture. If you go to my Oped author’s page,
http://www.opednews.com/author/author40790.html
and send me a message, I will send you my email.
If what you say is true, my innocuous blog of what happened to me and who I am, has been targeted?
BY whom?
Gates you say?
I am getting into serious waters by speaking truth to power, it seems.
If someone is using IE they’re using Windows; both are highly vulnerable.
Safari means Mac or iOS, pretty secure.
Interesting that Gates made his money off a product with no regard to security or even quality. He hasn’t strayed far from the model
Peter, did you go there with IE and get a message of possible virus???
http://www.speakingasateacher.com/SPEAKING_AS_A_TEACHER/No_Constitutional_Rights-_A_hidden_scandal_of_National_Proportion.html
I am so curious.
Little old me is a threat to whom????
Umm … no. I don’t non-Apple things anymore. The vulnerability of Windows to malware is one reason.
Knock on wood!
May,
when you said, “your website,” did you mean Oped news, or Speakingasa teacher.com?
OPed is a progressive site which often gets threats…. but it is safe, as the publisher works at keeping it safe., but I have told Diane that she can give you my email and phone number.
You are special to me, and I am grateful to you, and wish to know more about you, and why you decided on Duane and myself and Krazy…. who is he/she?
susan
What a wonderful, thoughtful review.
Can you be as gentle about these so-called educators on this Forbes list?
http://www.forbes.com/30under30/#/education
Hi Susan:
I am sorry if I have a doubt about hacker in your opednews website. I did not go to speakingasateacher link.
I just click on a direct link of opednews from your previous thread in Dr. Ravitch. As a result, Internet Explorer took over my Google Chrome Page. After I see the bad message, I did not worry about your website, but I am concern about the invisible hand which might harm my files. So I close it, then I open on Google Chrome.
I will borrow my son’s Apple computer and contact you as early as this weekend January 10-11 when he comes home to visit me. It is a quick note that in 2013, someone sent me an invalid link to ask for a donation to NPE on behalf of Dr. Ravitch. I did it through PayPal in a small amount, and then I cancelled my visa after that.
You ask why I choose you, Krazy TA, and Duane Swacker. it is very simple because three of you have the same style in expression of your love for the teaching profession, and of your caring for the unfortunates at the expense of your own careers.
All three of you are very sincere, pragmatic, and straight shooting style in communication.
I have no problem if Dr. Ravitch could forward my email address, home address to your attention. As soon as I have your email address, I will send you my home telephone number.
I hope that you can write a short and sweet story in fiction novel style on my behalf after we exchange info. I would be happy to donate ALL of my share to you if the novel could earn any money at all in the near future. We need a big dream and a little hope to survive in the material world. Lots of respect for you. May
Ah, May. You are special. Thank you.
I am not a novelist, but i would love to hear your story.
Will you be join got the NPE?
Dear Susan:
If I could, I would happily be there. I had a lot of health problem as a result of my foolishly overworked, over-schooling and overplayed in my youth 24 hrs/day and 7 days/week in all seasons non-stop between concert, reading and extra-curriculum for children and career.
I hope you will enjoy being there in order to rekindle our humane spirit with all conscientious educators and parents. Please send my best wishes to NPE from leaders to all supporters.
I must disclose my fearless strength that comes from many near-death experiences. Most of all, I do not consume much nor live any much longer, and I do not have billions to be worried about losing being the top 1 in world tech or publishing business ranking, hahaha. I am looking forward to getting in touch with you through our personal email. May.
Hi Susan:
It is very weird that after I register and successfully complete a process, Microsoft Outlook Mail takes over the contact in your OpEdNews email.
I sent you all links and detailed info from Dr. Ravitch’s website, and then the Microsoft outlook refused to send my message to your contact email address.
Some things are quite funny here! Please recheck your OpEdNews email address.
So now, hopefully you can verify my email address and my short required bio from registration. May
I sent your words to the site administrator. I need to speak to you.
Hi Susan:
I try to save the screen on a desktop so that could copy in my gmail, and then send it to you. It is very weird and funny that a copy becomes different file. After that, my laptop went “disconnected mode” for internet. I have no choice and wait until now to have the internet come back for about 5 hours resting.
Have you received my email address through my registration with your OpEdNews website? May
I did not see a message at Oped.
This should not be so hard.
Your computer seems to give you a hard time.
I have an imac and a macbook pro laptop. I am spoiled.
Hi Susan:
Here is the confirmation from your OpEdNews to my gmail inbox
notifications@opednews.com
Great to have you on board. I hope you’ll find the system as friendly and easy as the other authors. I suggest you bookmark the entry page:
http://www.opednews.com/populum
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I have never supported (donated) any political parties in Canada. The only reason that I donate to NPE is because Public education is very important to people’s civil rights, and many upcoming generations’ freedom of expression and learning how to articulate their democracy in humanity way.
I am not too dumb to find my way in research or the least to save, copy and paste from one website to another. I called Bell Canada to reset the network, but it is not from my server. So, I have to turn off my “2008” laptop, and turn on for three times.
Also, when I try to send you a message through this thread, it repeating asks me to enter username and password before it allows my communication appearing on this thread. Most of all, it tells me that hacker will invade my privacy if I continue to send my message. It sounds like Dr. Ravitch’s website has some invisible layer of hackers waiting to invade my laptop.
I wish that I am as good as my spouse and my son in technical aspect in order to diagnose the source of this typical threat.
I hope that Dr. Ravitch will have a chance to forward my email to you, and yours to mine. May.