After David Greene, veteran teacher and mentor, read the review of Elizabeth Green’s new book (“Building a Better Teacher”)y esterday, he asked me to publish this excerpt from his new book, “Doing the Right Thing: A Teacher Speaks.” Here it is. It won’t get the publicity that Elizabeth Green’s book will get. But it is backed up by many years in the classroom.
It begins like this:
“Who remembers their favorite test from school? You know, the one that inspired you to become who you are now, or saved you from the wrong part of yourself? Who remembers the test that made you want to come out of your shell? Which test gave you the courage to try new things and challenge yourself? For me, it was the 1966 Regents Comprehensive Examination in Social Studies.
“Ok, only kidding. We all know that it is teachers who inspire and challenge us to be our best. It isn’t testing, or much of what is now being called teaching. We also know which teachers did that. We might remember some incidents in their classes, or things they said or wrote to us. Do we remember the everyday things? The attitude they brought to the room? Their techniques?
“When I see former students (from the Bronx to Scarsdale), they don’t tell me about the Goals or Aim or Motivation from October 23rd, 2002. They will tell me about my energy, my excitement, my caring, and my prodding them to do their best, not to settle for mediocrity. They tell me about a particular project that inspired or challenged them to think critically, or do things they never thought they could. They even remember what they learned while doing those things. What they don’t know is how all of that was planned.”

I remember some tests. Some really bad.
But I also remember some teachers that inspired me to learn and some of those who gave tests that were challenging to say the least. They required some pretty intense study, but the content was meaningful.
I think we often confuse inspiration with charisma and even charm. But since it’s about learning, meaningful assessment (in many forms) is part of what we do.
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Peter,
I bet the challenging tests you remember were written by your teacher, not standardized. I have pored through thousands of standardized test questions and never saw one that was challenging or inspiring.
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As a fourth year teacher, I can’t wait until I get the opportunity to run into my former students as grown adults. I spend my career working with students with disabilities in the South Bronx. I teach in D75 of NYC, in specialized schools for students with the most severe emotional, cognitive and physical disabilities. For my population, my efforts to become effective are often much greater than I could’ve imagined prior to stepping into this role. I am in awe of David Greene’s work as it truly represents what I stand for. I have and continue to go above and beyond to make the curriculum accessible for my students to ensure their motivation and engagement. These are the things that students will remember. I will never stop seeking those ear-to-ear grins from my students. Thank you for sharing this excerpt.
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I use a similar line but it’s “think back on that really inspirational curriculum…”
I also remember any number of low performing students who’ve ended up very successful in the field I teach (computer science) who have sought me out to say that my class was what got them started and was so very important and influential for them. Of course by current assessments both they and I would be failures.
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Question: how do you ‘control’ via VAM for the crucial long-range effects you describe?
Answer: you don’t, you can’t, and that’s not the purpose of VAM or the standardized tests that feed it.
Thank you for your comments.
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The excerpt is inspiring and very true. Teachers need to create their own collections of wisdom and resources that will help them in the classroom and in their careers as teachers. I suspect most of these will come from other teachers, not politicians or reformers.
I watched Katie Couric’s interview with Melinda Gates regarding education. I cringed as I watched not because of the inaccuracies but because of Melinda’s evident inexperience and misconceptions about the subject of teaching children in which she so arrogantly expresses her opinion. I hope that Melinda reads the comments from the teachers and has enough strength of character to realize that she, along with her husband and friends, do not know what they are talking about and should listen to those who do.
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I may be unusual in that I have none of these stories about my teachers. I had teachers I liked personally, and teachers I disliked personally. I had at least a couple teachers who I felt were truly terrible, and a few who I felt were really great. I can’t think of a single teacher who had a major impact on my life, my life choices, my career path(s), my interests.
The K-12 teachers I remember most are:
(1) A high-school US history teacher (can’t remember which grade). He was a Vietnam vet, was socially awkward, and was big on enforcing disciplinary infractions. He had an occasionally explosive temper, which he turned on me a few times. Students hated him. But I liked him for whatever reason, possibly because I sensed he liked me (sympathy, affection. and attraction can be symbiotic sometimes).
(2) A high-school chemistry teacher. He was compact, swarthy, hirsute, with Popeye forearms. He was all light, energy, and enthusiasm. Students loved him. I did, too, because I admired him personally. But I found chemistry boring, never applied myself to it, and never took a college chemistry course.
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From the reading:
“Plan accordingly. It is the key. Your kids rely on that. But don’t make it look too planned.”
TAGO!!!
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The statement that “I know great teaching when I see it” is the reason why I think that a good system of peer evaluation is a good idea.
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Now here is a book that I want to read. It is spoken from a voice of experience and the excerpt seems heartfelt and REAL. I read Ravitch because her passion for education has been a lifelong one and she brings a thorough academic and historical perspective. I enjoy reading teacher’s accounts because they are in the trenches and I can identify or not identify but at least I know that it is coming from the epicenter – the classroom! As for remembering a favorite test from school… uhhh…. definitively no!!! I remember the silverware we had in my family growing up better or a pair of saddle shoes I picked out before the start of first grade. Why do I remember these? Because I connect them to the human experience.. shared meals with my family or the excitement of going with my mother to shop for much anticipated first day of school. But a high stakes test???? The motivation there is merely to pass it or else the test can be an obstacle in my life. That being said.. a lot of NYC public school students will NEVER forget the “great pineapple gate” question!!!! Maybe it will motivate them TO OPT OUT!
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Hi FLERP:
It would be useful and helpful to mention time and space in your story. However, your teacher is VN Vet. This means the latest withdrawal year from VN war is April 1975, and the earliest invaded/contributed year to VN war is 1960. Which part of USA did location of your story take place? Dr. Ravitch will tell you that your story reflected your imagination or your true emotion.
To my own knowledge, there were only a few educated officer/commander who innocent or naive enough to volunteer and to adventure their youth in VN war. Towards the middle period of war (1968-1972), there were soldiers who are with criminal background, or looting mind concept were promoted to enter the VN war.
Because of the arrogant and ignorant USA politicians, plus a few naive military commanders, USA lost VN war from China and Russia who are always behind Northern Communist VN. Most of all, it was, is and always will be the fault of Southern Capitalist VN leaders in both civic and military who believe and trust the fabricated promises from USA leaders and from Communist leaders before, during and after the war.
It is not easy to escape our own KARMA. As a result, all intentional, or accidental, or naive actions will yield the according consequences in our lives. Some die, some survive, some change their thought to be better people, and some live with their bitterness or resentment to humanity.
Yes, FLERP, your emotion is unstable to be an educator because you could not show or reflect your true appreciation of good education through your make-up story, according to Dr. Berger’s tenets of education. Back2basic
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Hi FLERP:
It would be useful and helpful to mention time and space in your story. However, your teacher is VN Vet. This means the latest withdrawal year from VN war is April 1975, and the earliest invaded/contributed year to VN war is 1960. Which part of USA did location of your story take place? Dr. Ravitch will tell you that your story reflected your imagination or your true emotion.
To my own knowledge, there were only a few educated officer/commander who innocent or naive enough to volunteer and to adventure their youth in VN war. Towards the middle period of war (1968-1972), there were soldiers who are with criminal background, or looting mind concept were promoted to enter the VN war.
Because of the arrogant and ignorant USA politicians, plus a few naive military commanders, USA lost VN war from China and Russia who are always behind Northern Communist VN. Most of all, it was, is and always will be the fault of Southern Capitalist VN leaders in both civic and military who believe and trust the fabricated promises from USA leaders and from Communist leaders before, during and after the war.
It is not easy to escape our own KARMA. As a result, all intentional, or accidental, or naive actions will yield the according consequences in our lives. Some die, some survive, some change their thought to be better people, and some live with their bitterness or resentment to humanity.
Yes, FLERP, your emotion is unstable to be an educator because you could not show or reflect your true appreciation of good education through your make-up story, according to Dr. Berger’s tenets of education. Back2basic
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So here we are…crunch time in …with a power structure who believes
in the business model of education…testing like efficiency experts observing an
assembly line… with the threat whether this year or next of hiring based on
“objective” scores with humanities stripped of heart and soul. And implied threats
that being a team player means buying into the common core all the way– and well
intentioned men and women who want to bust the teacher union and who believe in
charter schools more than public education. Where do we go from here?
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Planning is not the only path to good teaching. Children need an opportunity to interact with their learning environment in a positive way that includes positive adults, peers, community, and resources, and is not dependent on one domineering authoritarian teacher.
Teaching is an art form that is greatly influenced by a teacher’s personality and the environment that he/she creates. It will be either positive or negative. CCSS creates a negative environment. The rigid scripted scheduled test focused CCSS environment does not allow teachers freedom to use their own ideas, talents, and creativity. Most teachers and children who function in the fear and intimidation of the CCSS environment over time will lose spontaneity, curiosity, and imagination, which are critical to a healthy learning environment. They will lose the ability for scientific thinking. They will function more robotic with emotional repression.
The CCSS school environment has not only caused chronic stress for teachers and turned them into authoritarian unemotional robots, most importantly, it is impacting children with chronic stress from fear and insecurity. Children cannot trust adults who cannot validate them or understand their social and emotional needs. Children cannot make healthy attachments to adults they distrust, or chronically fear they will displease or disappoint them.
Anxiety disorders (and the associated conditioned impulsive and compulsive behaviors, addictions and codependency) in America have reached epidemic levels. Most people with anxiety disorders (perfectionism, workaholism, alcoholism, codependency) are not able to recognize it, since avoidance and denial are their conditioned coping mechanisms. Nor are they able to recognize that anxiety always has a level of depression with it, which can range from mild to severe. They are unable to experience pleasure or joy, and despair has become normal. They fell isolated and lonely, and usually seek comfort in food, sex, material objects, or entertainment, since they cannot make emotional attachments to others.
Teachers and parents are showing signs of anxiety they do not recognize as social anxiety, which is fear of authoritarian censorship. This causes them to be more focused on what others think of them and their own performance, rather than how they are relating to their own children. They lose their identity and play a role. Their emotional repression causes them not to be able to empathize with children. We now have more PTSD (Anxiety Disorders) in our mainstream society from relationship trauma than from war. Traumatic stress is traumatic stress, regardless of its source. Battered person syndrome, ACoA Trauma Syndrome, Common Core Syndrome, all have the same symptoms of trauma: Regression, Dissociation, and Constriction (Anxiety). (NY psychologists have identified the symptoms of anxiety recognized in children in the Common Core environment as the self punishing behaviors of Borderline behaviors that begin in childhood around age 5 but do not manifest until young adulthood).
One only has to look at our current statistics of divorce, teenage pregnancy, poverty, unemployment, increasing juvenile crime, drug addictions, children with emotional dysregulation and regression, to connect the dots to relationship trauma from environmental stress. School is not the only cause of our soaring rates of anxiety, but the traumatic stress of the CCSS environment is now recognized by most clinicians (and parents) to be a “leading” cause. Children who are forced to function in an environment of insecurity, fear of displeasing authority, and intimidation (fear of shame) will have permanent psychological damage in the form of personality disorders. Borderline and Narcissistic Personality Disorders are now common in the mainstream and not recognized by most people. We know personality disorders begin in childhood, and we know that in order to curb this growing tsunami of mental disorders in our society, we must give children a safe and nurturing environment that provides for their basic social and emotional needs. We must learn to recognize signs of traumatic stress, and we must learn the skills of how to validate children.
Killing CCSS and the school environment it has created should be a “no brainer by anyone who still has a brain that is capable of scientific thinking.
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Teaching is an innate art form. It’s organic and freeflowing. I love Greene’s analysis about what the reform movement is focused/stimming on in education: numbered standards, sterile tests and procedural planning…all of which have little to no bearing on exceptional teaching.
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I’m glad you mentioned stemming, which is a symptom of autism. What was originally thought to be a soaring increase (300%) in High Functioning Autism among children age 3-8 in the US is now thought to be “traumatic stress”. Traumatic stress and HFA both have the same symptoms: Regression, Dissociation, and Constriction.
This is what traumatic stress in the CCSS environment is doing to children.
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Well said DG. Several years ago a study was made of the people who had been given a Nobel prize. They were asked what led to that acquisition. The reply: A teacher who had inspired them. Nuv Sed.
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What I dislike so much about the current conversation about quality teaching is it presumes there is only one type of good teacher. That teacher is a “facilitator” who doesn’t lecture and allows students to discover through hands on, experiential learning opportunities. In the good teacher’s room, students are always engaged, meaning they are talking to each other about the activity at hand. Reading and writing take a back seat to these types of engaging, hands-on activities. Some teachers can be great teachers even if they talk a lot, lead a teacher-centered class, and ask students to read, write, and think deeply about the world individually from time to time and not in groups. The latter type would be given an effective rating in New York City because if kids are not “engaged” every minute in some type of group activity where they are talking to each other and the teacher is wondering around the room going from table to table listening and taking notes for later feedback, it’s not a good lesson. I think a good teacher knows when to be teacher-centered and when to let students take over. Today, unfortunately, teachers are not trusted to decide when each of these methods is appropriate.
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I completely agree!
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Roma, I couldn’t agree with you more. Your blog described perfectly what I am currently going through in my classroom. For years I have
been told WHAT to teach, but now they are completely controlling HOW I teach it. They do not trust us anymore to choose the style we think is best for our students at that given time. They have taken all creativity away from the teacher. It is sad, extremely stressful, and I am thankful that I will be able to retrain into a new profession in a couple of years.
The sad thing is that I love my students, and I love to teach. I have very strong test scores, but I can’t get those test scores in the way they want me to get them (aimlessly walking around my classroom letting them teach one another.) Like you said, this might work for one activity, but not for all learning activities. Thank you for your informative blog! (:
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Dear Sad,
Fortunately, I’m retired (and had a great deal of autonomy because I demanded it). I would only add one thing: the style one uses not only must fit the needs of the student, it must also be compatible with the teacher’s personality as well. Kids can spot a phoney a mile away.
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I once had a student contact me from FACEBOOK and tell me that I was the best teacher.
I wondered with baited breath what exciting thing he remembered, with all of my open classroom, cooperative learning events. He said, ” I remember the day that you took us outside in the yard, so that we could play soccer in the snow”. It is pretty hard to verbalize why we like teachers, there is an element of giving kids new freedoms to learn in a cooperative setting, which enhances everyone in a positive and creative way. I guess going out into the yard while the snow was falling sent a message that someone was willing to buck the system on their behalf. Recently I met a former HS English teacher who I enjoyed, Jokingly, I told him that I liked him because he laughed, joked, and didn’t take himself so seriously. I think that kids recognize authenticity and caring, when they see it for the first time. It’s never about the curriculum itself.
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There is one test I remember. In Mrs. Walker’s European History class, she had us study art and music of the era. We had tapes that we passed around the class so we could learn all of them. She would put on a piece of music during our exams, and we would identify the composer and title and then she would put on a new piece. Now some done could argue that just identifying the music is low level thinking, but you had to listen carefully to be able to identify them.
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I recall the first four hour test I took was for the GRE. I was 22 and applying for graduate school. Now in Texas 8 year olds take two consecutive days of four hour STAAR tests…..and they don’t get to see their results….and Pearson designs the STAAR test for them to fail………and they are getting Anxiety Disorders and permanent psychological damage from these tests…and any parent who continues to allow their child to be abused by this sadistic system needs to be reported for child abuse.
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Honestly, Barb, I think this is the goal of their plan….The evil politicians will require public schools to give these horrific tests – hours of testing – but they will not require the
charter schools to give these tests. Charter schools will have a huge calling card – that’s for sure. My 12 year olds this school year will take 40 hours of PARCC online testing between February and May. This replaces a Math and Reading Test, 2.5 hours each. Isn’t that the most horrible thing you’ve ever heard? I can’t stand to see my students suffer like this. Also, the common core is so much harder for my students. I have no clue how I will teach some of my objectives.
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If we can watch 400 children “targeted” and killed in Gaza schools and 400,000 needing “psycho social” help (UNICEF), then, as a society, we can imagine the same leaders throwing our own children under the bus for $$. The system is now designed, not to yield good teachers, but obedient autocrats who “kill” in their own ways through indifference and ignorance. Hanna Arendt warned us of this.
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