The corporate style reformers–the cheerleaders for charters, vouchers-and high-stakes testing–like to claim that they are leading the civil rights movement of their day. They imagine themselves locked arm-in-arm with Martin Luther King, Jr., in their efforts to end collective bargaining rights, to eliminate teacher due process rights, and to privatize public education.
I am not sure if they actually believe this or if they think they can pull the wool over the eyes of the media and the public.
In this fascinating interview, Josh Eidelson of Salon puts the question to Linda Darling-Hammond: Would you agree or disagree that the Vergara case–which would end teachers’ job protections–is an extension of the civll rights movement, as its proponents claim?
My guess is that Linda either fell off her chair laughing, or was momentarily dumbstruck by the absurdity of the idea.
She responded:
“I can’t understand why anyone would agree. To me, it’s completely unrelated to the agenda from Brown, which was about getting equal access to educational opportunities for students — you know, initially through desegregation, but the heritage of Brown is also a large number of school finance reform lawsuits that have been trying to advocate for equitable resource distribution between districts and schools. And Vergara has nothing to do with that …
“Even if you got rid of teachers’ due process rights for evaluation, you would do nothing to remedy the inequalities in funding and access that students have. And in fact you might exacerbate the problem.”
See, Linda remembers that the Brown decision was about equity, equitable resources for schools, and desegregation, and today’s self-proclaimed reformers avoid discussing things like that. They say that poverty is an excuse for bad teachers. Martin Luther King Jr. would never have said that. They certainly don’t care about desegregation. As the UCLA Civil Rights Project and as researcher Iris Rotberg have documented, charter schools exacerbate segregation. Indeed. the so-called reformers like to boast about all-black schools that get high test scores; segregation just is not an issue for them. They don’t see any reason to reduce class size–Bill Gates and Michael Bloomberg think it should be increased. If pressed, they say that we are spending too much on education already. Things like desegregation, equitable resources, and class size are not on their agenda.
Eidelson asks whether the plaintiffs are right in saying that it should be easier to fire bad teachers, and Linda responds:
First of all, just to be clear: It is extremely easy to get rid of teachers. You can dismiss a teacher for no reason at all in the first two years of their employment. And so there is no reason for a district ever to tenure a “grossly ineffective” teacher — as the language of the lawsuit goes — because you know if a teacher is grossly ineffective pretty quickly, and it’s negligence on the part of the school district if they continue to employ somebody who falls into that classification when they have no barriers to [firing them]. And districts that are well-run, and have good teacher evaluation systems in place, can get rid of veteran teachers that don’t meet a standard and [don’t] improve after that point.
But in fact, the ability to keep teachers and develop them into excellent teachers is the more important goal and strategy for getting a high-quality teaching force. Because if what you’re really running is a churn factory, where you’re just bringing people in and, you know, firing them, good people don’t want to work in a place like that. So it’s going to be hard for you to recruit. Second of all, you’re likely not paying enough attention to developing good teachers into great teachers, and reasonable teachers into good teachers.
That’s not to say you shouldn’t get rid of a bad teacher if you get one. But you ought to be very careful about hiring and development – that makes that a rare occurrence.
When Eidelson asks Linda what should be done to fulfill the promise of the Brown decision, she responds:
First of all, we have a dramatically unequal allocation of wealth in the society, which is getting much worse … We need another War on Poverty … Because we have a quarter of our kids in the country, and more than half in the public schools of California, living in poverty.
And so that’s No. 1: We need to do what other developed nations do, which is ensure that kids have healthcare, housing and a context in which they can grow up healthy – in communities which still have the kinds of recreation facilities, public libraries and other supports, [including] early childhood education, that would continue to allow children to come to school ready to learn.
Then we need schools that are equitably funded, with more money going to the students who have the greatest needs. I’m proud to say that in California, we’ve just passed a school funding law that is probably the most progressive in the nation, and that will actually, over the next years, allocate more money to each child that is living in poverty, is an English learner, or is in foster care than to other children. And we will begin to redress some of the profound inequalities that exist today … Cities in California typically are spending much less right now – before this kicks in — than affluent districts. That’s the real thing — if we were litigating the successes of Brown — that’s the real thing that would be first on the agenda to correct.
And then beyond that, I think we have to be sure that the state builds a high-quality teaching force, well-prepared for all candidates. If we were a highly developed nation that is high-achieving, we would be offering free teacher education to everyone that wants to teach, in high-quality [preparatory programs] … and getting rid of the [programs] that can’t meet the bar, so that everyone comes in ready and competent.
Wait a minute, that’s not what Bill Gates, Arne Duncan, Michelle Rhee, and other leaders of the Status Quo want!

Reblogged this on David R. Taylor-Thoughts on Texas Education and commented:
She got right to the heart of the issue and turned the focus where it needed to be, on equitable funding. The teacher quality is a secondary issue to child preparedness.
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Reminds me of the Peter Scholtes quote about firing dead wood– did you hire dead wood to start with, or did you hire a live tree and kill it? Either way, it’s a management deficiency.
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I like the analogy…I will use it in the future….
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or . . .
Did you hire a sapling and fail to nurture it?
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NYS Teacher…I wrote the following based upon the discussion here about trees.
http://davidrtayloreducation.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/your-teachers-are-trees/
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The Reformers practice educational eugenics. They believe artificial selection can eliminate “bad” teachers and improve schools. Like all ideologues, they use flawed means to achieve their ends. Reform has become a scorched earth rampage ravaging the schools and destroying learning. They believe if excellent teachers are sacrificed, so what? In the end, the Reformers will fail. They then must either lie about the results or walk away. As they leave, they will blame teachers, parents, students, liberals, Marxists, sunspots. It will then be up to the true educators to pick up the pieces and rebuild.
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Would not get drawn into this straw man. Has LDH seen the Common Core materials being used in the school? Everyone wants a seat at the table.
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I agree it seems to be an excuse for forsaking democracy; I have thought about how they came up with that claim and the only think I can reckon is that they see it like Kobe Bryant said in a great article in the New Yorker when asked why he didn’t wear a hoodie and stand in unity for Travon Martin. And Kobe said if we really are beyond the days of racial inequity, then there shouldn’t be a need for black men to stand together in unity because Travon’s race shouldn’t have anything to do with the situation.
“Shouldn’t” is the key word there. For someone like Kobe who grew up in Europe and has wealth of his own, this is an easy statement to make, even though he is a black American male. I think reformers want to believe that we don’t have a situation of poor minorities who do need the intentional actions within public institutions and policy to level the playing field for opportunity. They want to believe that race doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter. . .and that by saying that it does and by making decisions based on that factor, that we are denying equality.
It’s definitely something that can have a spin put on it. Clearly it’s worth thinking about and debating or reformers would not have gotten as far as they have.
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or I guess I should say inequality. . .not inequity.
When did the race rights efforts become about equity and not equality and what are the differences therein anyway? It would be good to have those things well spelled out.
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equal rights means we’re all free to fight it out. . .equity is something completely different
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Caveat #1: By “race rights efforts,” I assume you mean post-Brown v. Board of Education.
Caveat #2: The history and the law are pretty complicated.
That said, I think it’s fair to say that this shift happened starting in the early- to mid-1970s. By that point, desegregation was judged by many to have failed in terms of providing equal educational opportunity, because of state and local resistance, white flight, poverty, etc. So lawyers started bringing lawsuits based on funding disparities. They failed in federal court — see the Supreme Court’s Rodriguez decision — but took the strategy to state courts, where they have had some success.
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Since corporations are apparently people, then this may be a civil rights issue. Or maybe it’s about the rights of the 1% to become the 0.1%.
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very well said
The oligarchs will not be satisfied until they have absolute authority to make whatever decisions they choose, in their sole discretion, to make regarding the lives of others.
Absolute power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Due process protects against abuse via absolute power.
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Two observations:
First, I can see why Obama avoided appointing her: she takes on disagreeable truths and avoids agreeable fantasies… the polar opposite of Duncan!
Second, I am with you 100% in labeling the “reformers” as the “status quo”… but re-branding them will require LOTS of work and probably more money than you have at your disposal! Datsun spent millions to convince the public they should be called “Nissan” and we still call photocopiers “xerox machines”… It took lots of repetition from the right wing think tanks funded by billionaires to persuade voters that “government is the problem”, that “regulation is bad”, and “free markets are good”… those of us who believe the opposite need to find someone with deep pockets…
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wgersen: not to worry.
Diane has her staff of 92 already busy working on leveling the playing field.
¿?
Or so go the usual unconfirmed rumors…
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“Linda remembers that the Brown decision was about equity, equitable resources for schools, and desegregation,”
Brown was about segregation. It was *not* about equitable resources.
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Yes it was. Were Kansas to have been able to definitively prove that the segregated schools were truly able to be separate but equal (equitable training, materials, funding, locations, etc = equitable resources), Plessy V. Fergusson and prior legislation would not have been able to be overturned.
Of course, Kansas couldn’t. Because, as Brown showed, separate is inherently unequal.
Equitable resources were/are fundamental to school desegregation law.
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“Were Kansas to have been able to definitively prove that the segregated schools were truly able to be separate but equal (equitable training, materials, funding, locations, etc = equitable resources), Plessy V. Fergusson and prior legislation would not have been able to be overturned.”
No, no, no. Read the decision.
First, “definitively prove” is not an evidentiary standard in law, and it wasn’t the standard Kansas (or the states in the companion cases) had to meet. I’m not sure what the standard was, but it wasn’t “definitive proof.” (I don’t even know what that means.)
Second, Kansas *did* prove that the “white” and “Negro” schools were essentially equal by all tangible measurements. See the language: “Here, unlike Sweatt v. Painter, there are findings below that the Negro and white schools involved have been equalized, or are being equalized, with respect to buildings, curricula, qualifications and salaries of teachers, and other ‘tangible’ factors.”
Third, you have the analysis backwards. If Kansas had failed to prove that the segregated schools were equal, there would have been no need to overturn Plessy, because the Supreme Court would have found that Kansas’s segregated schools were unconstitutional under Plessy. Because Kansas *did* prove that it met the Plessy standard, the only way the Supreme Court could have found Kansas’s segregated schools unconstitutional was to overturn Plessy.
This is basic, basic stuff. Brown was *not* about whether tangible resources are equitably allocated. Brown was about the intangible, psychological effects that segregation has. It stands for the proposition that no matter how resources are allocated among schools, state-sanctioned segregation is wrong and unconstitutional.
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Never forget that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., died defending the rights of people to organize into a union, and to collectively bargain for pay and working conditions.
King died for union rights. He would not consent to trample them.
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Exactly.
Once he turned his proven ability to the labor issue, that’s when they decided to murder him. Here’s what he said the day before he was murdered:
Well, I don’t know what will happen now. We’ve got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn’t matter with me now. Because I’ve been to the mountaintop. And I don’t mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I’m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God’s will. And He’s allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I’ve looked over. And I’ve seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! And so I’m happy, tonight. I’m not worried about anything. I’m not fearing any man. My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!
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The owner of this blog quite rightly remarks in the above posting: “They don’t see any reason to reduce class size–Bill Gates and Michael Bloomberg think it should be increased.” And in the piece accessed by the included link, Linda Darling-Hammond speaks of “Class sizes of over 40 have been the case in Los Angeles. ”
Interesting…
Now, Mr. Bill Gates, you couldn’t possibly be saying one standard for my and mine and another for thy and thine, would you?
Okey dokey, Lakeside School, where Mr. Bill went to school and where his children are going to school.
[start quote]
Finally, I had great relationships with my teachers here at Lakeside. Classes were small. You got to know the teachers. They got to know you. And the relationships that come from that really make a difference…
[end quote]
Now add that to the following: “Student/teacher ratio: 9 to 1” and “Average class size: 16.”
Link: http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/bill-gates-tells-us-why-his-high-school-was-a-great-learning-environment/
Hmmm…
And Michael Bloomberg sent his girls to The Spence School.
Consider these factoids:
“17 student per class in Lower School” and “14 students per class in Middle and Upper Schools” and “Grades K-2 have two teachers for each class” and “Student/Faculty ration is 7:1.”
Link: http://www.spenceschool.org/about_spence/school_profile/index.aspx
If they weren’t billionaires and had political clout, well, I think a double dose of Marxism fits the bill nicely here:
“The garbage man is here.”
“Well, tell him we don’t want any.”
¿? I’m surprised you don’t know already: Chico and Groucho.
The famous ones.
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Great point Joanna re: the difference between equality and equity. They are two different things and this is often lost in the talking points.
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This post sums up our whole struggle.
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So according to this case, the new civil rights issue isn’t equity, it’s just the right to the lowest common denominator, minimum adequate teacher, in a classroom of say 50 students?
Where’s the principle?
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What a difference for our youth if she were in charge instead of Duncan.
I can speak to the Charter School issue. The Buffalo News did a report last Sunday about how Buffalo is more segregated now than it was twelve years ago, and the worst offenders are the charter schools, many with 99 to 100% African American populations.
And the schools which are doing poorly on the assessments are those which have the least diversity and the most poverty, whether charter or public. No surprises here.
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Just to keep Rev Al Sharpton in line with his Nation Action Network (NAN), the Feds revealed his identity as a mob informant. At the NAN conference Duncan praised DeBlasio, (since DeBlasio dumped his first choice as Chancellor for him and picked Bloomberg’s Farina). I was moved when Duncan talked about protecting our “babies”, with a tear in my eye.
http://ny.chalkbeat.org/2014/04/10/arne-duncan-urges-new-yorkers-to-stick-with-cuomo-on-teacher-evals/
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This is so sick. Pearson as leader of a civil rights movement, after the Federal government has been in charge for 12 years. We can turn back to our former State education standards, that is very “thinkable”. Are we violating Bill Gates’ civil rights to lobotomize kids, now that corporations are people?
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/king-civil-rights-fight-article-1.1752764
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Why are we responding to bad exams that put children’s data into a data base? Get out the votes for the Green Party. This is embarrassing.
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